Dealing with a friend that stiffed you

Question

I have a friend that stiffed me for over $4,500 about two years ago. He's one of the few clients I have back then that I gave a credit account to. Right now, all my clients must post up.

Anyways, me and that friend of mine always paid each other on time every week. One week he lost, he called and told me he need an extra week. So the next week came, he didn't call. He changed his cell phone number and disappeared all of a sudden and moved to another apartment. This was 2 years ago. So just last week, I saw him at a bowling alley and I've noticed he plays in the same local bowling league with another mutual friend of ours. I didn't let that stiff friend see me, but now I know his whereabouts and where he bowls at every week. I copied down his car license plate number too so I can find out where he lives if I really need to.

What should I do? Confront him to pay up the $4,500? Beat his ass at the parking lot at the bowling alley? Obviously he stiffed me on purpose.

Arnold2 · Answer

I have a friend that stiffed me for over $4,500 about two years ago. He's one of the few clients I have back then that I gave a credit account to. Right now, all my clients must post up.

Anyways, me and that friend of mine always paid each other on time every week. One week he lost, he called and told me he need an extra week. So the next week came, he didn't call. He changed his cell phone number and disappeared all of a sudden and moved to another apartment. This was 2 years ago. So just last week, I saw him at a bowling alley and I've noticed he plays in the same local bowling league with another mutual friend of ours. I didn't let that stiff friend see me, but now I know his whereabouts and where he bowls at every week. I copied down his car license plate number too so I can find out where he lives if I really need to.

What should I do? Confront him to pay up the $4,500? Beat his ass at the parking lot at the bowling alley? Obviously he stiffed me on purpose.

GetPaid25 · Answer

beat his ass front of his girl/friends to embarrass his ass. 4500 is lot of money

Arnold2 · Answer

I have till next week to decide. The local bowling league in my area is once a week.

Obviously if I beat his ass, he'll never pay up the $4,500 he lost. If I confront him, he's probably going to make some lame excuses. So I'm still deciding what I should do.

It's a good thing that something like this won't ever happen again since I switched my policy. No more offering credit accounts to anyone, not even friends and relatives. Everyone play post up. I changed that policy 2 years ago and no one really ever complaint about it. If they complain, then I'll just tell them to find someone else.

gamble04 · Answer

Thats a lot of money I would definetly find out whats going on.  Probaly does not have it to pay.  Up to you though how you want to handle it.  I would not suggest the violence but may want to re-consider just how good of a friend he is being he does not even have the guts to talk to you about it.

ThreePercent · Answer

Offer him a payment plan. It&#x27;s obvious he does not have it. You can&#x27;t get blood from a stone, no matter how badly you beat it.. If there is any kind of friendship still between the two of you, he will agree to an arrangement. If he tells you to get fucked.....well...you are not friends anymore. You will be less inclined to worry about his well being or his reputation amongst mutual friends if that is going to be the case.If he agrees to a payment plan....at least you get something and maybe salvage a friendship.

Arnold2 · Answer

It&#x27;s not the $4500 that hurt me, it&#x27;s the way he handled it hurts.  I&#x27;ve known this guy for over 10 years and it hurts that he rather stiff me for $4500 and throw away the friendship.  I just can&#x27;t believe he&#x27;ll disrespect a friend like that.  Usually he would win-lose around the $4000 - $6000 weekly, so I don&#x27;t understand why he decided to stiff me.  I figured if a friend can stiff me like that, other people will too.  He&#x27;s the first person to stiff me and the last one.  I don&#x27;t offer credit accounts anymore because of this incident 2 years ago.  It&#x27;s post up from now on and it&#x27;s going to stay that way.  Which I&#x27;m happy with it.  Never ran into any problems with this method and its great for me.

alling · Answer

sue him

Ballyduff · Answer

I agree with the payment-plan option. Also, violence, while it might satisfy you on a base-level, may just cost you in the wallet or moreif charges are brought against you.

btrabosh · Answer

is this a ploy for you to try to get new clients?  have them send you money as "Post Up" and then change your covers info.  I hope you arent&#x27; serious asking a forum what to do and talking about how this guy hurt you feelings.  Your a bookie, be a man and confront this guy and get your money.

44-dimes · Answer

Excellent Advice

Arnold2 · Answer

Hahahaha!!!  I wish!

Arnold2 · Answer

Hahahaha!!!  I wish!

jessieCA · Answer

challenge him to a bowling match!&#xD;&#xA; &#xD;&#xA;thats how misadventures of flappjack would handle it...........lol.

Arnold2 · Answer

[Quote: Originally Posted by jessieCA]  challenge him to a bowling match!&#xD;&#xA; &#xD;&#xA;thats how misadventures of flappjack would handle it...........lol.  [/Quote]Why would I challenge him to a bowling match when he&#x27;s the one that owes me money?

fsutomahawk · Answer

Agree about offering him a payment plan. Probably best way to go. Also, if he agress to this you can also maybe have him do work around your house if you have one. Mow your lawn, shovel your driveway, clean your gutters or shit like that you don&#x27;t want to do. Knock a couple hundred bucks off if he does.

D1andOnly1088 · Answer

Mistake no. 1 was doing business with a friend to begin with.  I couldn&#x27;t imagine taking or giving $5000 from a friend, even if he is getting paid and paying the people on the other side of the play, just cutting you the juice.  Something just seems wrong about friends exchanging that kind of money when he can&#x27;t always afford it.  I&#x27;d feel the urge to tell a friend to stop after too many losses if that was the case, and thats clearly a conflict of interest, since you&#x27;re doing this to make money.

vandjinc · Answer

this is what you do. find out his address and show up unannounced when you know he is there. make it clear up front that you didn&#x27;t just stumble over and invite yourself in. you have said that the amount is not the deal so don&#x27;t even bring it up. lay out some kind of payment plan and then negotiate it back and forth until you both agree. cut the juice, cancel the juice, whatever it takes to start getting some of it back. you already have this chalked up as a loss so anything you get is a bonus. by all means, do NOT beat the shit out of him. trust me, you done&#x27; need the hassle. besides the cops may start asking some very uncomfortable questions as to how the debt was incurred. it has been my experience that there is a better than 50/50 shot of him having the money, he just didn&#x27;t want to pay. i have no problems with working people(40 hour plus) working out a plan with me but it&#x27;s the bastards that have the money that are hard to deal with it. good luck to you sir.

Arnold2 · Answer

Thanks for the advice.  Obviously he has the money because I just found out where he works at.  He purposely stiffed me back then because he doesn&#x27;t want to pay up, he was on a losing streak for weeks.  But that&#x27;s not my problem.  You win, you collect.  You lose, you pay up.  It&#x27;s that simple.

derekanderson · Answer

To call someone a friend, yet you take advantage of his addiction is a pretty loose statement. BUT, business is business and since you wont be friends any longer the payment plan is the way to go. Even if it's $50 bucks a week, its still better than nothing. You can get a half tank of gas!

Otherwise make sure your around on the last night of bowling. At least at that point he may have a large amount of cash n him since most leagues do payouts on the last night. I know a book that handed over his car payment book to a guy for a payment plan.

Arnold2 · Answer

I didn&#x27;t take advantage, he wanted my service so I offered.  Business is business.  Even right now, people post up and play, I offer the service.  It&#x27;s not my fault they win or lose.  I&#x27;m just responsible for paying out whenever they withdraw, and collect the money when they deposit.  It&#x27;s that simple.  I have to pay for price-per-head fee too for each player that play on my site every week.

jerseykingpin · Answer

First thing you do is count in the vig for $4,500 over 2 years . Tell him he has a week to pay then contact him with in 4 days and ask if he has it if not the fun part. Go out to a bar with some friends thats apx 10 blocks away from the bowling alley find out what time he leaves. Tell your friends that you feel sick and need to take a good shit go outthe back door wait for the punk to come out wearing a skimask take out a kneecap and tell him you have 2 days now . Go back to the bar and hangout for the night . Know one would remember what time you went to the bathroom or nothing . There your alibi you were in the bar the whole night with your friends and other ppl also seen you in there alnite

BrandenLang · Answer

Cmon guys it&#x27;s obvious he&#x27;s not getting paid by now.  Forget the payment plans or salvaging friendship... Bottom line is, if you can&#x27;t live with the fact you got fucked then you man up and ski mask this guy as he&#x27;s leaving his buliding or in some parking lot, and take whatever he has on him and call it a day.  If you think you can live with the fact, then just forget about it... I mean, it&#x27;s been two years, shit or get off the pot!!

Yavapai · Answer

confront him and say "after the jets/ steelers game flys over the total will you have the money to finally pay me what you owe me "?

shiznit · Answer

Cost of doing biz my friend. Payment plan.. if no.. move on.. we all get hurt sometimes.. Biz is biz. I know this sounds like "tough shit" but.. in this biz.. $4500 is not the end of the world.. but going to jail over money is silly.

Businesses get stiffed all the time and we cant go around kicking everones ass.. Get $100 per week or month arrangement and extend no more credit. Just my thoughts..

Sorry about your friend.. be happy it wasn't $45K though..

The Shiz

luckbird · Answer

Sir, you are a fucking braindead retard. You clearly watch too many mafia movies or think you are some Tony Soprano wannabe. That shit you described would be the worst thing for him to do. Jeopardize going to jail over a measly 4 grand, what are you fucking nuts?

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