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excuse me, meant to type: one "single" detail.
and ...not in "anyway" to ....
 
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Quote Originally Posted by robertg:

I said "speak to a sportsbook gm."

and I did not give one signal processor detail.  I write this so that anyone reading this post will be reminded of the facts, not in anyone to respond to a moron like "chancep."

just common sense here.

 

Thats the thing, you have no FACTS at all. You just have what some guy somewhere told you and youre treating it as gospel and calling me names cuz I dont believe it. Thats called heresy, not FACTS. But go on believeng what you want and calling people's opinions FACTS

 
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Maybe we're getting way off topic here so let me re-iterate my originl opinion so theres no debating or so you dont lie about what Ive said.
 
IF YOU THINK ANYTHING ANYONE WRITES ON COVERS.COM IS GOING TO HELP THE FEDS IN THEIR QUEST AGAINST ONLIME GAMBLING THEN YOURE FUCKING RIDICULOUS
 
 
Thats really all I need to say. All your other "this guy toldme this" and "this guy told me that" is just hogwash. You want FACTS, you have NONE. Until you have facts its all opinion and we disagree on our OPINIONS
 
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LISTEN TO ME YOU PISS ANT!
I DIDN'T SAY ANYONE TOLD ME ANYTHING.  I SAID THAT IF YOU CALLED "YOUR" 5 FAVORITE SPORTS BOOKS AND ASK THE GM'S IF THEY THOUGHT THE DISCUSSION OF THIER PAYMENT PROCESSORS SHORTENED THE LIVES OF THOSE PROCESSORS?
 
REREAD ALL THE POSTS AND MAYBE YOU CAN QUIT SETTING UP STRAW MAN ARGUMENTS TO PROVE YOUR INFANTILE POINT OF VIEW.   I THINK THE ONE THING HERE THAT HAS BECOME CLEAR IS THAT YOU DON'T HAVE A GOOD RELATIONSHIP WITH ANY OFFSHORE BOOKS. YOUR'E PROBABLY SUCH A SMALL TIMER IF YOU PLAY AT ALL, THAT YOUR LUCKY TO GET TALK TO SOME CLERK WHO CAN'T SPEAK ENGLISH.  AND YOU HAVE PROBABLY NEVER HAD A WITHDRAWL, ONLY WINNERS TAKE MONEY OUT AND WORRY ABOUT THIS KIND OF STUFF.
 
ALSO, I NEVER SAID COVERS WAS TO BLAME. I SAID IT WAS STUPID OF US TO DISCUSS INTIMATE PROCESSOR ISSUES AND DETAILS IN A PUBLIC FORUM.
 
ONE LAST THING, AND MAYBE YOU'RE NOT IGNORANT TO FIGURE THIS OUT, BUT I DOUBT IT!
 
CHECK THIS FORUM, PROBALY A FEW POST DOWN WHERE DISCUSIONS WERE GETTING VERY DETAILED ABOUT PROCESSORS.  THE POST SAYS IT HAS 7 OR 8 RESPONSES, BUT WHEN YOU CHECK IT, THERE ARE ONLY 3 OR 4 RESPONSES.  WHY IS THIS?  THINK ABOUT AND SHUT THE FUCK UP YOU DUMB COCKSUCKER!
 
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HERES THE LINK
 
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Some of you guys are pretty slow.

If YOU can call a sportsbook and find out processor information, you don't think they FEDS could, too?

The processors are NOT in the U.S. though, so the Feds CANNOT touch them.
 
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eCheck was shut down after the new law in 2004.

Western Union was audited and screwed themselves.

MoneyGram processors were recently audited, so they also screwed themselves.

Not one method was busted by the Feds due to something said in the forums.
 
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Quote Originally Posted by DailyDime:

eCheck was shut down after the new law in 2004.

Western Union was audited and screwed themselves.

MoneyGram processors were recently audited, so they also screwed themselves.

Not one method was busted by the Feds due to something said in the forums.

wrong!  forget it, this a pointless argument with a bunch of "joe public" college students.  i was just trying to help us all. One last time, i'll issue the challenge,  call the sportsbooks you use and ask if they mind if you discuss which banks checks are paid on?

this is really simple, and i didn't make it up, just call your own favorite books and ask them if forum dicussion has lessened the lives of these individual processors. 

 

 
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I...worked for one of the largest books in the industry for two years and currently own my own book.

You can say wrong all you want, but the Feds cannot do anything since the banks and checks are third party and DO NOT come from the U.S.
 
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Again, if YOU can easily obtain the info, why wouldn't the Feds be able to?

Do you think they were completely unaware of all of this until Covers.com Forums showed them the light?
 
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Quote Originally Posted by DailyDime:

I...worked for one of the largest books in the industry for two years and currently own my own book.

You can say wrong all you want, but the Feds cannot do anything since the banks and checks are third party and DO NOT come from the U.S.

 

total bullshit!  Its not an a or b rated book.  its an imaginery book you own.  The us has shut down numerous processors, it happens daily.  this really is like arguing with a bunch of 1st graders.

obivously you not only haven't worked for an offshore, you've never gotten a payout or you would realize what total bullshit your spewing.  Someone over the age 19 who has actaully had a payout or had a processor change in the last few months should chime in, cause I'm tired.  One more time, i'm not blaming covers, i'm just saying the less exposure of details on  a public forum the better. 

Go to some forums where they are a little less "joe public" and you'll notice that they all have rules against posting these details

BECAUSE IT MATTERS.  THIER SPONSORS, THE SPORTSBOOKS, SOME OF THESE MONKEYS ARGUE DON'T CARE, TELL THEM TO KNOCK IT OFF OR THE ADVERTISING DOLLARS WILL STOP....

 

 
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Quote Originally Posted by DailyDime:

I...worked for one of the largest books in the industry for two years and currently own my own book.

You can say wrong all you want, but the Feds cannot do anything since the banks and checks are third party and DO NOT come from the U.S.

 

ok, since you have no fear of anything disclosed at covers:  please answer the following questions....

Whats your name?

Whats the name of your book?

What banks are your checks drawn on?

What kind of deposits do you accept?

Do you take credit cards?

If so, how will the credit card charges show on my statement?

What country do you operate in?

Whats you phone number?

Adress?

How many american players do you service?

What processor do you use for checks(since no one can do anything to them)?

What is their adress?

phone number?

OBVIOUSLY, NO ONE WOULD ANSWER THESE QUESTIONS

BECAUSE IT MATTERS!

 
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Quote Originally Posted by DailyDime:

eCheck was shut down after the new law in 2004.

Western Union was audited and screwed themselves.

MoneyGram processors were recently audited, so they also screwed themselves.

Not one method was busted by the Feds due to something said in the forums.

one other point that should be made, UIGEA, the law affecting internet gaming was passed in late october of 2006, attached to a Safe Port act.  Until that time and actually for a few months after that "echecks, neteller, instadebit" and several other methods flourished. Obviously, you don't know your ass from a hole in the ground.  Nice try junior.  get back to your homework or whatever you have to do.  Give me your adress and I'll send you a new box 128 crayons(the nice ones with the built in sharpener)!

 
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Quote Originally Posted by robertg:

one other point that should be made, UIGEA, the law affecting internet gaming was passed in late october of 2006, attached to a Safe Port act.  Until that time and actually for a few months after that "echecks, neteller, instadebit" and several other methods flourished. Obviously, you don't know your ass from a hole in the ground.  Nice try junior.  get back to your homework or whatever you have to do.  Give me your adress and I'll send you a new box 128 crayons(the nice ones with the built in sharpener)!



Im going to go ahead and agree, I wouldn't volunteer to give any information out about how to get paid and deposit as well.
I have been with a few books and have seen methods get shot to hell...and if you dont think that people dont check boards, or the internet is crazy. 

There are ongoing investigations from chartrooms- to forums, to websites about ANYTHING. .
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Dont be ignorant and think even  IF people are not seeing it or checking out the website to just go ahead and give out information.
I know a few GM's that I talk to, and while I couldn't get the info from those "hardly speaking english clerks", you can have the GM pull your account, check your history and know how "OPEN" they can talk to you. I have had lengthy conversations about processors in other countries that are working and ones that are in the works. If you do the business you can get the info. The fact is this board and alot of people on here, as you can tell from responses from people when they are down after 1 qtr of play are very young and unexperienced. 
 
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OK guys. I have been playing the gentlemen's sport of gambling for 20 years now and have used local bookmakers as well as around a dozen online books. The problem is that the U.S. only cares about us gambling because they cant find a way to tax it and get their cut of the money leaving the country. They should just legalize sports gambling everywhere but they wont because Vegas would collapse. Maybe they should just put a tax on all incoming or outgoing money transfers to and from the U.S. and they have it covered. We work for the money so shouldnt we be able to do what we want with it. Most of the books will accept Western Union or Moneygram and use processors in Nicaragua and the Phillipines to handle the funds. Some of them even send us ATM cards to get our payouts faster. Now Robertg dont you think that the FEDS have had agents sign up with books with limitless funding to check out all the possible deposit and payout options?Surely you know they have. Why not spend that money to help the homeless or to find a cure for cancer. They would rather fuck with grown men spending the money we worked hard for. How stupid. So Robert to summarize, it doesn't matter what we put in our posts because they use the books just like we do and they know everything because they have an endless supply of money.
 
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the feds and locals cops can blow me all day ... we are allowed to make the bet  .. the people that are in the business in taking the bets are the ones they are trying to arrest.
 
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Quote Originally Posted by BET THE HOOK:

OK guys. I have been playing the gentlemen's sport of gambling for 20 years now and have used local bookmakers as well as around a dozen online books. The problem is that the U.S. only cares about us gambling because they cant find a way to tax it and get their cut of the money leaving the country. They should just legalize sports gambling everywhere but they wont because Vegas would collapse. Maybe they should just put a tax on all incoming or outgoing money transfers to and from the U.S. and they have it covered. We work for the money so shouldnt we be able to do what we want with it. Most of the books will accept Western Union or Moneygram and use processors in Nicaragua and the Phillipines to handle the funds. Some of them even send us ATM cards to get our payouts faster. Now Robertg dont you think that the FEDS have had agents sign up with books with limitless funding to check out all the possible deposit and payout options?Surely you know they have. Why not spend that money to help the homeless or to find a cure for cancer. They would rather fuck with grown men spending the money we worked hard for. How stupid. So Robert to summarize, it doesn't matter what we put in our posts because they use the books just like we do and they know everything because they have an endless supply of money.
So what services have good lines and good customer service and how does Bodog rank.
 
 
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Bodog sucks. Bet Jamaica has great service and will issue you an ATM card that they load your winnings on at your request. Betphoenix and Jazz sports both offer you a personal account rep that really takes care of you and both will get you payouts via Moneygram or Western Union within 24 hours.
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