This is a private investigation commissioned by Penn State’s board of
trustees and paid for by the university’s insurance carriers, albeit a
very expensive one employing some rather high-profile talent. Freeh, for example, was President Bill Clinton’s FBI director from 1993
to 2001, with prior experience as a field agent and assistant U.S.
attorney in New York. He prides himself on his investigative work and
helping to devise fixes to crises "that could lead to the end of an
enterprise or a franchise," and on not bringing a seal of approval to
his clients. ---------------------------------------------------------- “Our most saddening and sobering finding is the total disregard for the
safety and welfare of Sandusky’s child victims,” said Louis J. Freeh,
the former federal judge and director of the F.B.I. who oversaw the
investigation. “The most powerful men at Penn State failed to take any
steps for 14 years to protect the children who Sandusky victimized.”
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Quote Originally Posted by thisguyiswise:
you still have not defined the freeh report
This is a private investigation commissioned by Penn State’s board of
trustees and paid for by the university’s insurance carriers, albeit a
very expensive one employing some rather high-profile talent. Freeh, for example, was President Bill Clinton’s FBI director from 1993
to 2001, with prior experience as a field agent and assistant U.S.
attorney in New York. He prides himself on his investigative work and
helping to devise fixes to crises "that could lead to the end of an
enterprise or a franchise," and on not bringing a seal of approval to
his clients. ---------------------------------------------------------- “Our most saddening and sobering finding is the total disregard for the
safety and welfare of Sandusky’s child victims,” said Louis J. Freeh,
the former federal judge and director of the F.B.I. who oversaw the
investigation. “The most powerful men at Penn State failed to take any
steps for 14 years to protect the children who Sandusky victimized.”
i think u fail to read my other post in the college football program
i can man up and admit my mistake defending a guy who i had no idea would have done such an awful thing, "joe paterno" is the name of the thread.
but he did tell the chief of police, then according to an email in the freeh report decided to i guess suggest otherwise of what to do. that remains a fact.
people like you and detox who want a pat on the back, a "bravo" that i was wrong and you were right are sad people.
this was already addressed.
and i am not going anywhere sweety
I don't want a pat on the back. I just want to point out how much a weirdo you are.
Instead of saying how upset you are that your hero Joe Patermo turned out to be a spineless scumbag you try to knock down the Freeh Report and make yourself look like even more of a dink.
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Quote Originally Posted by thisguyiswise:
i think u fail to read my other post in the college football program
i can man up and admit my mistake defending a guy who i had no idea would have done such an awful thing, "joe paterno" is the name of the thread.
but he did tell the chief of police, then according to an email in the freeh report decided to i guess suggest otherwise of what to do. that remains a fact.
people like you and detox who want a pat on the back, a "bravo" that i was wrong and you were right are sad people.
this was already addressed.
and i am not going anywhere sweety
I don't want a pat on the back. I just want to point out how much a weirdo you are.
Instead of saying how upset you are that your hero Joe Patermo turned out to be a spineless scumbag you try to knock down the Freeh Report and make yourself look like even more of a dink.
Paterno didn't molest any kids but he didn't do enough to stop it. Saying he reported it to his superiors and therefore is free of blame is foolish because he was the most powerful man in Happy Valley and had the power to do more. Its a shame for the victims first and foremost and the Paterno family and his legacy because he'll always be remembered for this.
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Paterno didn't molest any kids but he didn't do enough to stop it. Saying he reported it to his superiors and therefore is free of blame is foolish because he was the most powerful man in Happy Valley and had the power to do more. Its a shame for the victims first and foremost and the Paterno family and his legacy because he'll always be remembered for this.
'albeit a very expensive one employing some rather high-profile talent. Freeh, for example, was President Bill Clinton’s FBI director from 1993 to 2001, with prior experience as a field agent and assistant U.S. attorney in New York. He prides himself on his investigative work and helping to devise fixes to crises "that could lead to the end of an enterprise or a franchise," and on not bringing a seal of approval to his clients.'
'albeit a very expensive one employing some rather high-profile talent. Freeh, for example, was President Bill Clinton’s FBI director from 1993 to 2001, with prior experience as a field agent and assistant U.S. attorney in New York. He prides himself on his investigative work and helping to devise fixes to crises "that could lead to the end of an enterprise or a franchise," and on not bringing a seal of approval to his clients.'
'albeit a very expensive one employing some rather high-profile talent. Freeh, for example, was President Bill Clinton’s FBI director from 1993 to 2001, with prior experience as a field agent and assistant U.S. attorney in New York. He prides himself on his investigative work and helping to devise fixes to crises "that could lead to the end of an enterprise or a franchise," and on not bringing a seal of approval to his clients.'
LINKY
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random adult placing a $100 bet on a football game has the same effect
on a child as a pedophile sodomizing them and forcing them to perform
oral sex on them.
You just keep making up problems to stay on that side of the argument even when the argument is over. That's the same mindset that most of the people around the Penn St program have. People like you are the reason they should have shut down the football program.
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Quote Originally Posted by darkhorse12:
'albeit a very expensive one employing some rather high-profile talent. Freeh, for example, was President Bill Clinton’s FBI director from 1993 to 2001, with prior experience as a field agent and assistant U.S. attorney in New York. He prides himself on his investigative work and helping to devise fixes to crises "that could lead to the end of an enterprise or a franchise," and on not bringing a seal of approval to his clients.'
LINKY
A
random adult placing a $100 bet on a football game has the same effect
on a child as a pedophile sodomizing them and forcing them to perform
oral sex on them.
You just keep making up problems to stay on that side of the argument even when the argument is over. That's the same mindset that most of the people around the Penn St program have. People like you are the reason they should have shut down the football program.
All you need to ask yourself if Paterno is a true peice of shit, is would he have done the minimum if he heard his kid or grandchildren were being buttfucked by the linebackers coach?
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Quote Originally Posted by CHITOWNODAWG:
All you need to ask yourself if Paterno is a true peice of shit, is would he have done the minimum if he heard his kid or grandchildren were being buttfucked by the linebackers coach?
that i can agree with based on assumptions and not interviewing people as freeh suggested. but its not a legal document or a fbi report.
excuse me while i felt the ncaa should have gotten off their own ass and did their own job for once and demanded the bot step down instead of handle this like a bunch of idiots without a real plan or purpose besides to show power and win the public and let those that did not do their job walk free and punish more innocent people.
if people really gave a damn about the real people at penn state who were responsible, they would stop solely focusing on the football team who had nothing to do with this, joe paterno who is dead, his statue which most penn state people i know could care less about, and go after the damn governor who is hugely responsible and the board of trustees BOT, who were extremely negligent as the Freeh report says.
you cant punish kids and others who had nothing to do with it but let others free without punishment. its a joke if he is using the freeh report as a basis, since he clearly states over and over the BOT was highly negligent.
if the public screamed for the BOT to step down and stepped back and did their own research instead of what espn has to say, they would realize this and it would not be only penn state people saying the board of trustees at their very school needs to be all removed.
should paterno be held responsible yes, should his image be tarnished yes.
but so should many many others.
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point is, its an opine
that i can agree with based on assumptions and not interviewing people as freeh suggested. but its not a legal document or a fbi report.
excuse me while i felt the ncaa should have gotten off their own ass and did their own job for once and demanded the bot step down instead of handle this like a bunch of idiots without a real plan or purpose besides to show power and win the public and let those that did not do their job walk free and punish more innocent people.
if people really gave a damn about the real people at penn state who were responsible, they would stop solely focusing on the football team who had nothing to do with this, joe paterno who is dead, his statue which most penn state people i know could care less about, and go after the damn governor who is hugely responsible and the board of trustees BOT, who were extremely negligent as the Freeh report says.
you cant punish kids and others who had nothing to do with it but let others free without punishment. its a joke if he is using the freeh report as a basis, since he clearly states over and over the BOT was highly negligent.
if the public screamed for the BOT to step down and stepped back and did their own research instead of what espn has to say, they would realize this and it would not be only penn state people saying the board of trustees at their very school needs to be all removed.
should paterno be held responsible yes, should his image be tarnished yes.
Better throw away your Nike stuff now haters....looks like you have another successful educated man who joins the side of scholars as opposed to the side of ignorance.
one last time, the head of police he reported to is the campus police, the ONLY police department with jurisdiction in the matter. Phil Knight will be happy to help point that out to you.
Phil ran when he heard the real facts
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Quote Originally Posted by thisguyiswise:
Better throw away your Nike stuff now haters....looks like you have another successful educated man who joins the side of scholars as opposed to the side of ignorance.
one last time, the head of police he reported to is the campus police, the ONLY police department with jurisdiction in the matter. Phil Knight will be happy to help point that out to you.
The punishment is about changing things in the future. Next time maybe people will think twice about covering this stuff up at other schools when this happens or something like it again. I agree the kids on the team had nothing to do with it but they have the option to transfer if they want. Its like saying don't send someone to jail because they have kids and the kids will be punished by not having their parent. There's always collateral damage. The football program and culture were the vehicles Sandusky was able to use to do what he did. Be mad at Sandusky, Paterno, local police and all the other enablers. Shifting the blame and anger toward the NCAA and Freeh is foolish.
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The punishment is about changing things in the future. Next time maybe people will think twice about covering this stuff up at other schools when this happens or something like it again. I agree the kids on the team had nothing to do with it but they have the option to transfer if they want. Its like saying don't send someone to jail because they have kids and the kids will be punished by not having their parent. There's always collateral damage. The football program and culture were the vehicles Sandusky was able to use to do what he did. Be mad at Sandusky, Paterno, local police and all the other enablers. Shifting the blame and anger toward the NCAA and Freeh is foolish.
the problem isnt just a "penn state culture" worshiping a head coach
its a "national culture" caring more about the take down of a football coach instead of caring about the pennsylvania governor who decides so many different things.
but no one gives a damn about corbett, its just about paterno and the football team.
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the problem isnt just a "penn state culture" worshiping a head coach
its a "national culture" caring more about the take down of a football coach instead of caring about the pennsylvania governor who decides so many different things.
but no one gives a damn about corbett, its just about paterno and the football team.
I am truly sorry for the loss of your coach and program. It is heart breaking on some levels for sure. I have always rooted for Joe Pa and the Lions. I have always loved their uniforms (yes , I love those ugly things) and straight ahead style of play.
I am going through my 40's and trying to expand my mind and life. I actually may be the only man in America who likes Dr Phil. He has an interesting view on child molestation. He says "that if someone is accused of child molestation, THAT MAN IS GUILTY TIL PROVEN INNOCENT!"
I have though a lot about this idea and I have to say I agree with it. We all need to raise our collective bars to stop this shit. I think it is a good point what would have Joe Pa done if this was his Son, Nephew, Grandchild in the shower? Would he have just reported it to the chief of police and felt his job was done? Or would he have followed this lead down to the ends of the earth to protect his family? If we suspect child abuse, we should think that man is guilty til he is proven innocent and we should not rest until we know for sure. You, I and each member of covers have a responsibility to the children of the planet to protect them from this unspeakable trauma. This should be an eye opener to each of us.
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This Guy is Wise,
I am truly sorry for the loss of your coach and program. It is heart breaking on some levels for sure. I have always rooted for Joe Pa and the Lions. I have always loved their uniforms (yes , I love those ugly things) and straight ahead style of play.
I am going through my 40's and trying to expand my mind and life. I actually may be the only man in America who likes Dr Phil. He has an interesting view on child molestation. He says "that if someone is accused of child molestation, THAT MAN IS GUILTY TIL PROVEN INNOCENT!"
I have though a lot about this idea and I have to say I agree with it. We all need to raise our collective bars to stop this shit. I think it is a good point what would have Joe Pa done if this was his Son, Nephew, Grandchild in the shower? Would he have just reported it to the chief of police and felt his job was done? Or would he have followed this lead down to the ends of the earth to protect his family? If we suspect child abuse, we should think that man is guilty til he is proven innocent and we should not rest until we know for sure. You, I and each member of covers have a responsibility to the children of the planet to protect them from this unspeakable trauma. This should be an eye opener to each of us.
Also, did you now that 99% of child molestors are male?
Why do I bring this up?
Raising to small kids, I am always aware of men in womens roles. Be very wary of men at the Day Care, School, Library etc. These fuckers need access and the way they get access if by taking these jobs.
Look, I am not saying all these dudes are shit heads, but I am saying think about leaving your children with these people of "trust" without supervision.
I will give you an example, we were recently at a nice resort , Terranea, in LA. We went to drop our kids at the daycare for a "date night". There were two people working there, a young girl and a young guy.
I changed my mind and took the kids to a movie instead. There is no reason for a 20 something guy to work in a day care. WTF. When I was 25, the last place in the world I would work was a day care. That is crazy.
I wrote a letter to the GM and told them they should not have males in that role. Just my two cents.
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Also, did you now that 99% of child molestors are male?
Why do I bring this up?
Raising to small kids, I am always aware of men in womens roles. Be very wary of men at the Day Care, School, Library etc. These fuckers need access and the way they get access if by taking these jobs.
Look, I am not saying all these dudes are shit heads, but I am saying think about leaving your children with these people of "trust" without supervision.
I will give you an example, we were recently at a nice resort , Terranea, in LA. We went to drop our kids at the daycare for a "date night". There were two people working there, a young girl and a young guy.
I changed my mind and took the kids to a movie instead. There is no reason for a 20 something guy to work in a day care. WTF. When I was 25, the last place in the world I would work was a day care. That is crazy.
I wrote a letter to the GM and told them they should not have males in that role. Just my two cents.
problem was he did not hear that someone was being buttbanged. but i can agree he would have done more than the minimum which it appears he did.
A graduate assistant had witnessed the assault, and reported in person
to Paterno the next day. Paterno said he would figure out how to handle
the alarming report, and inform his superiors. The Freeh investigation
suggests that the university’s senior administrators were prepared to
formally report Sandusky to state authorities, but that Paterno
persuaded them to do otherwise.
What the report makes clear is that Paterno, and the other officials at
Penn State, acted in a manner that was designed more to protect the
football program and the reputation of Paterno, and to treat Sandusky
“humanely,” than it was to look out for the children. More importantly,
its clear that a child predator was allowed to freely roam the halls of
the Penn State athletic department, to use his access to the football
program to groom his victims, and to use university facilities to abuse
his victims. Indeed, the power of the football program was so great that
it prevented people only tangentially related to it from coming forward
to report what they saw. -------
He didn't hear?
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Quote Originally Posted by thisguyiswise:
problem was he did not hear that someone was being buttbanged. but i can agree he would have done more than the minimum which it appears he did.
A graduate assistant had witnessed the assault, and reported in person
to Paterno the next day. Paterno said he would figure out how to handle
the alarming report, and inform his superiors. The Freeh investigation
suggests that the university’s senior administrators were prepared to
formally report Sandusky to state authorities, but that Paterno
persuaded them to do otherwise.
What the report makes clear is that Paterno, and the other officials at
Penn State, acted in a manner that was designed more to protect the
football program and the reputation of Paterno, and to treat Sandusky
“humanely,” than it was to look out for the children. More importantly,
its clear that a child predator was allowed to freely roam the halls of
the Penn State athletic department, to use his access to the football
program to groom his victims, and to use university facilities to abuse
his victims. Indeed, the power of the football program was so great that
it prevented people only tangentially related to it from coming forward
to report what they saw. -------
not the word anal rape, that is all i am saying. of course he was aware of some odd behavior, but anal rape was indeed a ploy by the d.a. to get attention.
just a fact. still i believe joe should have done more.
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not the word anal rape, that is all i am saying. of course he was aware of some odd behavior, but anal rape was indeed a ploy by the d.a. to get attention.
just a fact. still i believe joe should have done more.
This is a private investigation commissioned by Penn State’s board of
trustees and paid for by the university’s insurance carriers, albeit a
very expensive one employing some rather high-profile talent. Freeh, for example, was President Bill Clinton’s FBI director from 1993
to 2001, with prior experience as a field agent and assistant U.S.
attorney in New York. He prides himself on his investigative work and
helping to devise fixes to crises "that could lead to the end of an
enterprise or a franchise," and on not bringing a seal of approval to
his clients. ---------------------------------------------------------- “Our most saddening and sobering finding is the total disregard for the
safety and welfare of Sandusky’s child victims,” said Louis J. Freeh,
the former federal judge and director of the F.B.I. who oversaw the
investigation. “The most powerful men at Penn State failed to take any
steps for 14 years to protect the children who Sandusky victimized.”
i am hearing different definitions now coming out on mr freeh. take a listen
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Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox:
This is a private investigation commissioned by Penn State’s board of
trustees and paid for by the university’s insurance carriers, albeit a
very expensive one employing some rather high-profile talent. Freeh, for example, was President Bill Clinton’s FBI director from 1993
to 2001, with prior experience as a field agent and assistant U.S.
attorney in New York. He prides himself on his investigative work and
helping to devise fixes to crises "that could lead to the end of an
enterprise or a franchise," and on not bringing a seal of approval to
his clients. ---------------------------------------------------------- “Our most saddening and sobering finding is the total disregard for the
safety and welfare of Sandusky’s child victims,” said Louis J. Freeh,
the former federal judge and director of the F.B.I. who oversaw the
investigation. “The most powerful men at Penn State failed to take any
steps for 14 years to protect the children who Sandusky victimized.”
i am hearing different definitions now coming out on mr freeh. take a listen
not the word anal rape, that is all i am saying. of course he was aware of some odd behavior, but anal rape was indeed a ploy by the d.a. to get attention.
just a fact. still i believe joe should have done more.
what is it that joe should have done?
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Quote Originally Posted by thisguyiswise:
not the word anal rape, that is all i am saying. of course he was aware of some odd behavior, but anal rape was indeed a ploy by the d.a. to get attention.
just a fact. still i believe joe should have done more.
the only way jo pa could leave $1000 tips is by turning a blind eye to his buddy child raper which fueled the money making machine called Penn State Football........... 14 years of knowing and doing nothing and standing idle is despicable and cannot be defended in any way form or shape...........
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the only way jo pa could leave $1000 tips is by turning a blind eye to his buddy child raper which fueled the money making machine called Penn State Football........... 14 years of knowing and doing nothing and standing idle is despicable and cannot be defended in any way form or shape...........
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14 years of knowing and doing nothing and standing idle is despicable and cannot be defended in any way form or shape...........
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