First question - WTF am I doing watching CNBC? Yesterday - the Barclays Premier League game was on and this show was on afterwards.
It is about a sports tout - "Steve Stevens" - and his group of clowns selling picks in Las Vegas.
I have never seen such a piece of shit show - full of bullshit - and horribly scripted - and cliché. But it was SO bad, that I couldn't look away. Hysterical actually.
Anyone ever seen this piece of garbage?
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First question - WTF am I doing watching CNBC? Yesterday - the Barclays Premier League game was on and this show was on afterwards.
It is about a sports tout - "Steve Stevens" - and his group of clowns selling picks in Las Vegas.
I have never seen such a piece of shit show - full of bullshit - and horribly scripted - and cliché. But it was SO bad, that I couldn't look away. Hysterical actually.
First question - WTF am I doing watching CNBC? Yesterday - the Barclays Premier League game was on and this show was on afterwards.
It is about a sports tout - "Steve Stevens" - and his group of clowns selling picks in Las Vegas.
I have never seen such a piece of garbage show - full of bullshit - and horribly scripted - and cliché. But it was SO bad, that I couldn't look away. Hysterical actually.
Anyone ever seen this piece of garbage?
Just like Fox News. Fair and Balanced.
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Quote Originally Posted by vanzack:
First question - WTF am I doing watching CNBC? Yesterday - the Barclays Premier League game was on and this show was on afterwards.
It is about a sports tout - "Steve Stevens" - and his group of clowns selling picks in Las Vegas.
I have never seen such a piece of garbage show - full of bullshit - and horribly scripted - and cliché. But it was SO bad, that I couldn't look away. Hysterical actually.
71% - why didn't he win the LVH Supercontest this year?
My favorite part....
Todd Fuhrman, a former oddsmaker at Caesars Palace who now runs gambling site ToddsTake.com, characterized Stevens as part of a “disturbing trend” within the sports gambling world.
“We’re seeing a disturbing trend start to emerge; the proliferation of docudramas, movies and articles that lead to sensationalizing dishonest personalities within the sports betting industry,” Fuhrman wrote in a blog post on Monday. “The media consciously chooses to validate the wrong personalities, creating an aura around characters that are no better than modern-day carnies.”
Fuhrman then noted that “no one, and I mean no one” knows Stevens, who was touted as something like a Las Vegas fixture.
“My disgust with the topic runs deeper and is with the supposedly reputable network for their half-baked attempt to do appropriate research on the featured personality,” Fuhrman wrote. “Did they talk to respected voices in the field? Did they reach out to actual sportsbook operators? Did they track Stevens for at least two seasons to see if his claims were warranted before giving him his own show?”
Noted NBA gambler Bob Voulgaris, who did not return a message seeking comment early Wednesday, denounced Stevens’ claim of winning more than 70 percent of his bets.
“Obviously the guy in the video is a complete scam artist,” Voulgaris posted on Twitter on Monday. “70 percent? No shot.”
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71% - why didn't he win the LVH Supercontest this year?
My favorite part....
Todd Fuhrman, a former oddsmaker at Caesars Palace who now runs gambling site ToddsTake.com, characterized Stevens as part of a “disturbing trend” within the sports gambling world.
“We’re seeing a disturbing trend start to emerge; the proliferation of docudramas, movies and articles that lead to sensationalizing dishonest personalities within the sports betting industry,” Fuhrman wrote in a blog post on Monday. “The media consciously chooses to validate the wrong personalities, creating an aura around characters that are no better than modern-day carnies.”
Fuhrman then noted that “no one, and I mean no one” knows Stevens, who was touted as something like a Las Vegas fixture.
“My disgust with the topic runs deeper and is with the supposedly reputable network for their half-baked attempt to do appropriate research on the featured personality,” Fuhrman wrote. “Did they talk to respected voices in the field? Did they reach out to actual sportsbook operators? Did they track Stevens for at least two seasons to see if his claims were warranted before giving him his own show?”
Noted NBA gambler Bob Voulgaris, who did not return a message seeking comment early Wednesday, denounced Stevens’ claim of winning more than 70 percent of his bets.
“Obviously the guy in the video is a complete scam artist,” Voulgaris posted on Twitter on Monday. “70 percent? No shot.”
I think the show is hilarious. I noticed he never picks a dog. Always the favorite & tell the customer to buy points.
Yesterday, he met with 2 BIG clients.
First is a woman, from Beverly Hills - who bets 1500 a game. They tell her to bet the over on a college football game - which of course loses - but the banter before the wager is hysterical. "Two high scoring offenses, this one will sail over the total. It is already won!"
The second was this guy - and it was filmed at the LVH. So Steve Stevens tells this guy to put 5k on BYU -6.5. So it turns out that the line goes from 6.5 to -7, and what does Steve Stevens tell him to do? Pay the -130 to get -6.5. The guys doesn't want to take -7, and he doesn't want to pay -130 to get -6.5, but Stevens cant understand this logic.
Then this moron explains to the camera how his picks aren't even close - how he never gives out games that are going to be close to the spread - BUT AT THE SAME TIME HE ADVOCATES BUYING A HALF POINT.
So ridiculous.
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Quote Originally Posted by Huss:
I think the show is hilarious. I noticed he never picks a dog. Always the favorite & tell the customer to buy points.
Yesterday, he met with 2 BIG clients.
First is a woman, from Beverly Hills - who bets 1500 a game. They tell her to bet the over on a college football game - which of course loses - but the banter before the wager is hysterical. "Two high scoring offenses, this one will sail over the total. It is already won!"
The second was this guy - and it was filmed at the LVH. So Steve Stevens tells this guy to put 5k on BYU -6.5. So it turns out that the line goes from 6.5 to -7, and what does Steve Stevens tell him to do? Pay the -130 to get -6.5. The guys doesn't want to take -7, and he doesn't want to pay -130 to get -6.5, but Stevens cant understand this logic.
Then this moron explains to the camera how his picks aren't even close - how he never gives out games that are going to be close to the spread - BUT AT THE SAME TIME HE ADVOCATES BUYING A HALF POINT.
District Judge Sally Loehrer Tuesday sentenced Darin Notaro, 25, to one year in jail for his part in a Las Vegas telemarketing scheme that bilked elderly citizens across the nation out of at least $234,000.
Notaro, who was also ordered to make $12,230 in restitution, is one of six men charged in connection with their work for Century Pacific Group, a boiler room that telephoned elderly people and told them they won valuable sweepstakes prizes, but they had to pay $699 to get the prize.
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At the time of his arrest, Notaro was on probation for conviction of six federal felony counts of telemarketing fraud by wire. For those 1995 offenses, he was ordered to pay $30,000 in restitution, fined $3,100 and ordered to perform 200 hours of community service.
Investigators for the Nevada attorney general's office have arrested a man in connection with a telemarketing scheme targeting out-of-state elderly people.
Darin Notaro, 27, was arrested Friday after people were called and told that they had won a sweepstakes grand prize. Authorities said the victims were told that they had to make an income tax payment via Western Union before they could pick up their prize, authorities said.
We are aware of Steve Stevens’ 1999 conviction and while we are very clear in the press release that VIP Sports clients risk big dollars in the hopes that Stevens and his agents have the expertise to consistently deliver winners, viewers should tune in on September 10th at 10pm ET/PT to draw their own conclusions about VIP Sports. We are merely betting that viewers will be interested in the world of touts and handicappers and in no way endorse either Stevens’ picks or his business model.
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steve stevens alter ego darin notario rap sheet
District Judge Sally Loehrer Tuesday sentenced Darin Notaro, 25, to one year in jail for his part in a Las Vegas telemarketing scheme that bilked elderly citizens across the nation out of at least $234,000.
Notaro, who was also ordered to make $12,230 in restitution, is one of six men charged in connection with their work for Century Pacific Group, a boiler room that telephoned elderly people and told them they won valuable sweepstakes prizes, but they had to pay $699 to get the prize.
[...]
At the time of his arrest, Notaro was on probation for conviction of six federal felony counts of telemarketing fraud by wire. For those 1995 offenses, he was ordered to pay $30,000 in restitution, fined $3,100 and ordered to perform 200 hours of community service.
Investigators for the Nevada attorney general's office have arrested a man in connection with a telemarketing scheme targeting out-of-state elderly people.
Darin Notaro, 27, was arrested Friday after people were called and told that they had won a sweepstakes grand prize. Authorities said the victims were told that they had to make an income tax payment via Western Union before they could pick up their prize, authorities said.
We are aware of Steve Stevens’ 1999 conviction and while we are very clear in the press release that VIP Sports clients risk big dollars in the hopes that Stevens and his agents have the expertise to consistently deliver winners, viewers should tune in on September 10th at 10pm ET/PT to draw their own conclusions about VIP Sports. We are merely betting that viewers will be interested in the world of touts and handicappers and in no way endorse either Stevens’ picks or his business model.
First is a woman, from Beverly Hills - who bets 1500 a game. They tell her to bet the over on a college football game - which of course loses - but the banter before the wager is hysterical. "Two high scoring offenses, this one will sail over the total. It is already won!"
The second was this guy - and it was filmed at the LVH. So Steve Stevens tells this guy to put 5k on BYU -6.5. So it turns out that the line goes from 6.5 to -7, and what does Steve Stevens tell him to do? Pay the -130 to get -6.5. The guys doesn't want to take -7, and he doesn't want to pay -130 to get -6.5, but Stevens cant understand this logic.
Then this moron explains to the camera how his picks aren't even close - how he never gives out games that are going to be close to the spread - BUT AT THE SAME TIME HE ADVOCATES BUYING A HALF POINT.
So ridiculous.
I laugh at Steve every time he says " buy the hook ".. The guy should have said "Hey Dumb behind, a PUSH is a win ..F*uck the hook @ -130".
50% commission..BS more like $29.00 a game...
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Quote Originally Posted by vanzack:
Yesterday, he met with 2 BIG clients.
First is a woman, from Beverly Hills - who bets 1500 a game. They tell her to bet the over on a college football game - which of course loses - but the banter before the wager is hysterical. "Two high scoring offenses, this one will sail over the total. It is already won!"
The second was this guy - and it was filmed at the LVH. So Steve Stevens tells this guy to put 5k on BYU -6.5. So it turns out that the line goes from 6.5 to -7, and what does Steve Stevens tell him to do? Pay the -130 to get -6.5. The guys doesn't want to take -7, and he doesn't want to pay -130 to get -6.5, but Stevens cant understand this logic.
Then this moron explains to the camera how his picks aren't even close - how he never gives out games that are going to be close to the spread - BUT AT THE SAME TIME HE ADVOCATES BUYING A HALF POINT.
So ridiculous.
I laugh at Steve every time he says " buy the hook ".. The guy should have said "Hey Dumb behind, a PUSH is a win ..F*uck the hook @ -130".
First is a woman, from Beverly Hills - who bets 1500 a game. They tell her to bet the over on a college football game - which of course loses - but the banter before the wager is hysterical. "Two high scoring offenses, this one will sail over the total. It is already won!"
The second was this guy - and it was filmed at the LVH. So Steve Stevens tells this guy to put 5k on BYU -6.5. So it turns out that the line goes from 6.5 to -7, and what does Steve Stevens tell him to do? Pay the -130 to get -6.5. The guys doesn't want to take -7, and he doesn't want to pay -130 to get -6.5, but Stevens cant understand this logic.
Then this moron explains to the camera how his picks aren't even close - how he never gives out games that are going to be close to the spread - BUT AT THE SAME TIME HE ADVOCATES BUYING A HALF POINT.
So ridiculous.
Filmed @ the "M" ...
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Quote Originally Posted by vanzack:
Yesterday, he met with 2 BIG clients.
First is a woman, from Beverly Hills - who bets 1500 a game. They tell her to bet the over on a college football game - which of course loses - but the banter before the wager is hysterical. "Two high scoring offenses, this one will sail over the total. It is already won!"
The second was this guy - and it was filmed at the LVH. So Steve Stevens tells this guy to put 5k on BYU -6.5. So it turns out that the line goes from 6.5 to -7, and what does Steve Stevens tell him to do? Pay the -130 to get -6.5. The guys doesn't want to take -7, and he doesn't want to pay -130 to get -6.5, but Stevens cant understand this logic.
Then this moron explains to the camera how his picks aren't even close - how he never gives out games that are going to be close to the spread - BUT AT THE SAME TIME HE ADVOCATES BUYING A HALF POINT.
Investing in the US stock markets is a rigged game. If you are not on the inside of information flow, you are the fool that is just paying into the game.
I learned a long time ago that CNBC was an engine facilitating this scam. They aim to make you think you are smart and informed and you have a good chance of doing well if you buy those stocks.
CNBC is garbage... I can say that for the entire portfolio of NBC properties. The only channel I pay any attention to is NBCSP because The Dan Patrick show is on there.
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Investing in the US stock markets is a rigged game. If you are not on the inside of information flow, you are the fool that is just paying into the game.
I learned a long time ago that CNBC was an engine facilitating this scam. They aim to make you think you are smart and informed and you have a good chance of doing well if you buy those stocks.
CNBC is garbage... I can say that for the entire portfolio of NBC properties. The only channel I pay any attention to is NBCSP because The Dan Patrick show is on there.
Investing in the US stock markets is a rigged game. If you are not on the inside of information flow, you are the fool that is just paying into the game.
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Yeah, it's a RISK. But rigged? If you haven't been in the market the last 5 years, you gave money away. Have to be ready for the adjustment, but don't call it "rigged" because you didn't cash.
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Investing in the US stock markets is a rigged game. If you are not on the inside of information flow, you are the fool that is just paying into the game.
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Yeah, it's a RISK. But rigged? If you haven't been in the market the last 5 years, you gave money away. Have to be ready for the adjustment, but don't call it "rigged" because you didn't cash.
Just finished watching the episode that aired 4/2.
Never have I seen such a group of douchebags. friggin high pressure salesmen is all they are. I felt like I was in a timeshare sales event.
These kind of guys are why i adamantly distrust salesmen. Really don't know how these guys get up every morning and go to work.
Had to laugh at they guy Tyson telling the chick from LA about the unders and how they are a better play because the games start at zeros. IMHO, unders are less likely to hit due to the chance of overtime/extra innings, etc.
One thing that will always perplex me....if this guy is so good, claiming to hit over 70%, why is he wasting his time running a business? All he has to do is continually bet the same amount and he would do really well. All without the stress of business management.
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Just finished watching the episode that aired 4/2.
Never have I seen such a group of douchebags. friggin high pressure salesmen is all they are. I felt like I was in a timeshare sales event.
These kind of guys are why i adamantly distrust salesmen. Really don't know how these guys get up every morning and go to work.
Had to laugh at they guy Tyson telling the chick from LA about the unders and how they are a better play because the games start at zeros. IMHO, unders are less likely to hit due to the chance of overtime/extra innings, etc.
One thing that will always perplex me....if this guy is so good, claiming to hit over 70%, why is he wasting his time running a business? All he has to do is continually bet the same amount and he would do really well. All without the stress of business management.
Todd Fuhrman (one of the best to follow of the bird site) called this months before the show went on the air. Pure scam; the worst part is that CNBC markets it as legit without any background on this guy. It's sad that this show will most likely cause people to pay this clown for his 'services'.
Marketing touts are the worst. It's amazing that I still know people who pay these people for picks. I have a buddy who emails me all the time saying he is going to buy some picks from a tout service who emails him with outrageous claims. He really actually believes them. And buys them.
I told him to just give me the 100 bucks and then I will take him out back and kick him in the nuts and call it a day.
Suckers. One born every minute.
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Todd Fuhrman (one of the best to follow of the bird site) called this months before the show went on the air. Pure scam; the worst part is that CNBC markets it as legit without any background on this guy. It's sad that this show will most likely cause people to pay this clown for his 'services'.
Marketing touts are the worst. It's amazing that I still know people who pay these people for picks. I have a buddy who emails me all the time saying he is going to buy some picks from a tout service who emails him with outrageous claims. He really actually believes them. And buys them.
I told him to just give me the 100 bucks and then I will take him out back and kick him in the nuts and call it a day.
The fight in the bar looked so scripted and the two friends did not even appear to want to help the guy getting pummeled.
Another question:
What do Steve Steven's underlings make?
They work out of tiny cubicles yet say they can buy houses with all cash.
What does Steve Steven's make?
Ballpark of course.
Scripted or not, like Van said, this is must-watch TV. You'll want to look away but you can't. Love this show, real or otherwise.
Also, I've see the guys on the show make about 20 picks through five episode and they haven't picked A SINGLE DOG. Not ONE!
Matter of fact the favorites they choose are usually laying MAJOR chalk! And sometimes he's not even backing solid teams that even have a shot to cover such a number.
Houston -17.5 (Cougars not Texans)
North Texas -12
Notre Dame -17
I know their competition was poor but I think the philosophy is. "If I can cover 17 on my first bet for you, when we up the betting limits to 5K a game and the line is -7/7.5, that will be a piece of cake in comparison!"
You can only win in a blowout at -17 and even if he wins by two, Steven's is always shown after hitting one saying "total blowout baby! Was I right or was I right!"
Client on the line is elated of course....funny stuff. Must watch guys. You won't regret it!
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Please someone tell me this:
Are the clients on this show real?
The fight in the bar looked so scripted and the two friends did not even appear to want to help the guy getting pummeled.
Another question:
What do Steve Steven's underlings make?
They work out of tiny cubicles yet say they can buy houses with all cash.
What does Steve Steven's make?
Ballpark of course.
Scripted or not, like Van said, this is must-watch TV. You'll want to look away but you can't. Love this show, real or otherwise.
Also, I've see the guys on the show make about 20 picks through five episode and they haven't picked A SINGLE DOG. Not ONE!
Matter of fact the favorites they choose are usually laying MAJOR chalk! And sometimes he's not even backing solid teams that even have a shot to cover such a number.
Houston -17.5 (Cougars not Texans)
North Texas -12
Notre Dame -17
I know their competition was poor but I think the philosophy is. "If I can cover 17 on my first bet for you, when we up the betting limits to 5K a game and the line is -7/7.5, that will be a piece of cake in comparison!"
You can only win in a blowout at -17 and even if he wins by two, Steven's is always shown after hitting one saying "total blowout baby! Was I right or was I right!"
Client on the line is elated of course....funny stuff. Must watch guys. You won't regret it!
Just finished watching the episode that aired 4/2.
Never have I seen such a group of douchebags. friggin high pressure salesmen is all they are. I felt like I was in a timeshare sales event.
These kind of guys are why i adamantly distrust salesmen. Really don't know how these guys get up every morning and go to work.
Had to laugh at they guy Tyson telling the chick from LA about the unders and how they are a better play because the games start at zeros. IMHO, unders are less likely to hit due to the chance of overtime/extra innings, etc.
One thing that will always perplex me....if this guy is so good, claiming to hit over 70%, why is he wasting his time running a business? All he has to do is continually bet the same amount and he would do really well. All without the stress of business management.
I heard that!
Play an under because we are winning before the game starts!!!!
And these guys are SELLING picks!!!
Come on!
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Quote Originally Posted by adamjoe:
Just finished watching the episode that aired 4/2.
Never have I seen such a group of douchebags. friggin high pressure salesmen is all they are. I felt like I was in a timeshare sales event.
These kind of guys are why i adamantly distrust salesmen. Really don't know how these guys get up every morning and go to work.
Had to laugh at they guy Tyson telling the chick from LA about the unders and how they are a better play because the games start at zeros. IMHO, unders are less likely to hit due to the chance of overtime/extra innings, etc.
One thing that will always perplex me....if this guy is so good, claiming to hit over 70%, why is he wasting his time running a business? All he has to do is continually bet the same amount and he would do really well. All without the stress of business management.
I heard that!
Play an under because we are winning before the game starts!!!!
I would like to watch this show with someone who has no knowledge of sports betting or have a discussion with someone about it. Obviously, we are all laughing our assses off at every scene because we know better.
The main thing that I'm wondering is if I'm Steve Stevens and I supposedly have a sports betting service, wouldn't I force CNBC to focus on the winners and have the show feature 70+% winners? It's the same type of thing with the Covers Experts and other touts...focus on the wins and ignore the losses, basic marketing.
I also laugh at his employees that go out and buy BMW's and houses with cash and play off this high roller lifestyle. It's a commission gig...and I was in that world for a while. Yeah, you can get a $10,000 paycheck in a week no problem...but what do you do when you have a month where your highest paycheck is $500? No wonder why they drink their faces off at any possible chance. I would say that's probably the most real scenario in the entire show. The ups and downs of the salesmen is real.
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I would like to watch this show with someone who has no knowledge of sports betting or have a discussion with someone about it. Obviously, we are all laughing our assses off at every scene because we know better.
The main thing that I'm wondering is if I'm Steve Stevens and I supposedly have a sports betting service, wouldn't I force CNBC to focus on the winners and have the show feature 70+% winners? It's the same type of thing with the Covers Experts and other touts...focus on the wins and ignore the losses, basic marketing.
I also laugh at his employees that go out and buy BMW's and houses with cash and play off this high roller lifestyle. It's a commission gig...and I was in that world for a while. Yeah, you can get a $10,000 paycheck in a week no problem...but what do you do when you have a month where your highest paycheck is $500? No wonder why they drink their faces off at any possible chance. I would say that's probably the most real scenario in the entire show. The ups and downs of the salesmen is real.
I would like to watch this show with someone who has no knowledge of sports betting or have a discussion with someone about it. Obviously, we are all laughing our assses off at every scene because we know better.
The main thing that I'm wondering is if I'm Steve Stevens and I supposedly have a sports betting service, wouldn't I force CNBC to focus on the winners and have the show feature 70+% winners? It's the same type of thing with the Covers Experts and other touts...focus on the wins and ignore the losses, basic marketing.
I also laugh at his employees that go out and buy BMW's and houses with cash and play off this high roller lifestyle. It's a commission gig...and I was in that world for a while. Yeah, you can get a $10,000 paycheck in a week no problem...but what do you do when you have a month where your highest paycheck is $500? No wonder why they drink their faces off at any possible chance. I would say that's probably the most real scenario in the entire show. The ups and downs of the salesmen is real.
Oh Steve Stevens has no bargaining power in terms of script with Cnbc. They tell him what to do and when to do, despite his bravado on screen.
He was probably just hoping to hit a hot streak while they were filming (it uh, hasn't turned out that way...)
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Quote Originally Posted by CMJohnson1:
I would like to watch this show with someone who has no knowledge of sports betting or have a discussion with someone about it. Obviously, we are all laughing our assses off at every scene because we know better.
The main thing that I'm wondering is if I'm Steve Stevens and I supposedly have a sports betting service, wouldn't I force CNBC to focus on the winners and have the show feature 70+% winners? It's the same type of thing with the Covers Experts and other touts...focus on the wins and ignore the losses, basic marketing.
I also laugh at his employees that go out and buy BMW's and houses with cash and play off this high roller lifestyle. It's a commission gig...and I was in that world for a while. Yeah, you can get a $10,000 paycheck in a week no problem...but what do you do when you have a month where your highest paycheck is $500? No wonder why they drink their faces off at any possible chance. I would say that's probably the most real scenario in the entire show. The ups and downs of the salesmen is real.
Oh Steve Stevens has no bargaining power in terms of script with Cnbc. They tell him what to do and when to do, despite his bravado on screen.
He was probably just hoping to hit a hot streak while they were filming (it uh, hasn't turned out that way...)
71% - why didn't he win the LVH Supercontest this year?
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