So did you even look at this study done by the U.N. or did you just do a quick google search to try and prove a point you're not even willing to back up on your own? It definitely didn't put a Canadian in the position to play the holier than god card, but I guess if you always only choose to google what you want to hear and copy and paste everything it doesn't really put you into a position to be taken serious in any argument.
So did you even look at this study done by the U.N. or did you just do a quick google search to try and prove a point you're not even willing to back up on your own? It definitely didn't put a Canadian in the position to play the holier than god card, but I guess if you always only choose to google what you want to hear and copy and paste everything it doesn't really put you into a position to be taken serious in any argument.
That’s the point, chuckles. Attempting to ban guns in America is moronic just as attempting to ban cars or swimming pools would be. Should we attempt to do so anyway because it might save lives? How would it even be done? How would it be enforced?
Drugs are illegal. How’s that going? Hell, studies show that many children report it’s easier for them to get drugs than it is to get alcohol.
Like I said in the post addressed to you that you refused to respond to: none of you loudmouth anti-2A types are offering up any real solutions. It’s just a bunch of generic emotional comments and personal insults.
That’s the point, chuckles. Attempting to ban guns in America is moronic just as attempting to ban cars or swimming pools would be. Should we attempt to do so anyway because it might save lives? How would it even be done? How would it be enforced?
Drugs are illegal. How’s that going? Hell, studies show that many children report it’s easier for them to get drugs than it is to get alcohol.
Like I said in the post addressed to you that you refused to respond to: none of you loudmouth anti-2A types are offering up any real solutions. It’s just a bunch of generic emotional comments and personal insults.
A solution that’s going to prevent events like this from happening?
Oh this I have to hear.
A solution that’s going to prevent events like this from happening?
Oh this I have to hear.
Well said, thanks. Easy access is the problem but it seems willful blindness may be a bigger problem.
Well said, thanks. Easy access is the problem but it seems willful blindness may be a bigger problem.
A solution that’s going to prevent events like this from happening?
Oh this I have to hear.
Come on - grow up. You can't prevent these things but you sure as darn can take action to reduce the opportunity. This is not about insults and personal attacks. It is about a safe place for people - but you can worrry about becoming a police state etc etc etc. Good luck with that.
A solution that’s going to prevent events like this from happening?
Oh this I have to hear.
Come on - grow up. You can't prevent these things but you sure as darn can take action to reduce the opportunity. This is not about insults and personal attacks. It is about a safe place for people - but you can worrry about becoming a police state etc etc etc. Good luck with that.
I want to address a few things that are mentioned in this thread that bear repeating...
1) YES the pupose of the 2nd amendment was not only to allow the people to defend themselves against the evil-doers, but MORE significantly (in the eyes of the founding fathers) to guarantee that the people will have the last word if ever presented with a situation in which they wanted and/or needed to overthrow the goverment.
2) Plenty of talk about taking the steps to get people help, or simply restrict people that may show some tendency of erratic behavior or such... I think that makes for a nice talking point, but practically impossible to actually do. These events are highly visible in the rear-view mirror, but what can really be done in a proactive sense?? Give everybody the capacity to name names of somebody they deem to be on the edge?? Reminds me of the witch trials of the 15th century. It simply cannot and will not happen EFFECTIVELY
3) And maybe most importanly... I clearly think most of you missed the point to me making this thread. My main point is that there should be NO GUN FREE ZONES. These deranged people always hit the soft spots. If teachers and faculty were ALLOWED to CCW in the workplace, this idiot might have got to a few people, but clearly not 26. The bigger point is that he would not have picked a school, because it would be with a handful of adults that would be grabbing their glocks after the first few rounds were fired.
I want to address a few things that are mentioned in this thread that bear repeating...
1) YES the pupose of the 2nd amendment was not only to allow the people to defend themselves against the evil-doers, but MORE significantly (in the eyes of the founding fathers) to guarantee that the people will have the last word if ever presented with a situation in which they wanted and/or needed to overthrow the goverment.
2) Plenty of talk about taking the steps to get people help, or simply restrict people that may show some tendency of erratic behavior or such... I think that makes for a nice talking point, but practically impossible to actually do. These events are highly visible in the rear-view mirror, but what can really be done in a proactive sense?? Give everybody the capacity to name names of somebody they deem to be on the edge?? Reminds me of the witch trials of the 15th century. It simply cannot and will not happen EFFECTIVELY
3) And maybe most importanly... I clearly think most of you missed the point to me making this thread. My main point is that there should be NO GUN FREE ZONES. These deranged people always hit the soft spots. If teachers and faculty were ALLOWED to CCW in the workplace, this idiot might have got to a few people, but clearly not 26. The bigger point is that he would not have picked a school, because it would be with a handful of adults that would be grabbing their glocks after the first few rounds were fired.
I think that you're all missing the point of gun control.
It has nothing to do with you're right to own firearms, you already have that. It has everything to do with the sale, licensing, education and use of firearms.
You require a license to drive a car, but yet you can purchase a firearm online, at a gun show, even on Craigslist with no questions asked.
In Ontario, to obtain a firearm license, you must attend & pass a Canadian Firearms Safety course for rifles & shotguns, and an additional course for restricted firearms such as handguns. You do not recieve your license until the RCMP has done a background check AND an telephone interview with your references. Our laws are very strict as to ownership, transport and especially storage of any firearm.
Canadians are not naive or holier than thou. Many Canadians own firearms and hunt. The difference is that we have to be licensed and there are restrictions as to the weapons that are allowed.
No Canadian is allowed an Authorize to Carry (ATC) permit unless they're in law enforcement or private security.
Unfortunately the problem I see in the U.S. is that there seems to be so few restrictions as to obtaining any firearm, including millitary grade (killing machines).
I think that you're all missing the point of gun control.
It has nothing to do with you're right to own firearms, you already have that. It has everything to do with the sale, licensing, education and use of firearms.
You require a license to drive a car, but yet you can purchase a firearm online, at a gun show, even on Craigslist with no questions asked.
In Ontario, to obtain a firearm license, you must attend & pass a Canadian Firearms Safety course for rifles & shotguns, and an additional course for restricted firearms such as handguns. You do not recieve your license until the RCMP has done a background check AND an telephone interview with your references. Our laws are very strict as to ownership, transport and especially storage of any firearm.
Canadians are not naive or holier than thou. Many Canadians own firearms and hunt. The difference is that we have to be licensed and there are restrictions as to the weapons that are allowed.
No Canadian is allowed an Authorize to Carry (ATC) permit unless they're in law enforcement or private security.
Unfortunately the problem I see in the U.S. is that there seems to be so few restrictions as to obtaining any firearm, including millitary grade (killing machines).
I think that you're all missing the point of gun control.
It has nothing to do with you're right to own firearms, you already have that. It has everything to do with the sale, licensing, education and use of firearms.
You require a license to drive a car, but yet you can purchase a firearm online, at a gun show, even on Craigslist with no questions asked.
In Ontario, to obtain a firearm license, you must attend & pass a Canadian Firearms Safety course for rifles & shotguns, and an additional course for restricted firearms such as handguns. You do not recieve your license until the RCMP has done a background check AND an telephone interview with your references. Our laws are very strict as to ownership, transport and especially storage of any firearm.
Canadians are not naive or holier than thou. Many Canadians own firearms and hunt. The difference is that we have to be licensed and there are restrictions as to the weapons that are allowed.
No Canadian is allowed an Authorize to Carry (ATC) permit unless they're in law enforcement or private security.
Unfortunately the problem I see in the U.S. is that there seems to be so few restrictions as to obtaining any firearm, including millitary grade (killing machines).
I think that you're all missing the point of gun control.
It has nothing to do with you're right to own firearms, you already have that. It has everything to do with the sale, licensing, education and use of firearms.
You require a license to drive a car, but yet you can purchase a firearm online, at a gun show, even on Craigslist with no questions asked.
In Ontario, to obtain a firearm license, you must attend & pass a Canadian Firearms Safety course for rifles & shotguns, and an additional course for restricted firearms such as handguns. You do not recieve your license until the RCMP has done a background check AND an telephone interview with your references. Our laws are very strict as to ownership, transport and especially storage of any firearm.
Canadians are not naive or holier than thou. Many Canadians own firearms and hunt. The difference is that we have to be licensed and there are restrictions as to the weapons that are allowed.
No Canadian is allowed an Authorize to Carry (ATC) permit unless they're in law enforcement or private security.
Unfortunately the problem I see in the U.S. is that there seems to be so few restrictions as to obtaining any firearm, including millitary grade (killing machines).
The purchase of every single gun in America requires a background check and registration with the Feds.
To own an unregistered firearm in the United States is a felony, to transfer one without the use of an FFL is a felony.
Thoughtful post but inaccurate.
The purchase of every single gun in America requires a background check and registration with the Feds.
To own an unregistered firearm in the United States is a felony, to transfer one without the use of an FFL is a felony.
Thoughtful post but inaccurate.
Why arent they? Do you think if there are more and/or stricter gun laws that will stop people who intend on doing bad things from getting them?
Why arent they? Do you think if there are more and/or stricter gun laws that will stop people who intend on doing bad things from getting them?
The purchase of every single gun in America requires a background check and registration with the Feds.
To own an unregistered firearm in the United States is a felony, to transfer one without the use of an FFL is a felony.
Thoughtful post but inaccurate.
If a family member passes away and leaves you guns, what do you need to do? Take them to the police station to register them? Sure I could google it, but you seem to know a lot about guns.
The purchase of every single gun in America requires a background check and registration with the Feds.
To own an unregistered firearm in the United States is a felony, to transfer one without the use of an FFL is a felony.
Thoughtful post but inaccurate.
If a family member passes away and leaves you guns, what do you need to do? Take them to the police station to register them? Sure I could google it, but you seem to know a lot about guns.
Why arent they? Do you think if there are more and/or stricter gun laws that will stop people who intend on doing bad things from getting them?
I can help answer that.
Allow every law abiding citizen in the United States that owns a registered firearm to apply for a CCL. Statistically, this will make a difference on what is already well known to be a tremendous violent crime deterent.
Extend the waiting period for gun ownership to 45 days nationally.
Part 2 won't make a difference (statistically because it makes no difference) but it will satisfy the lefties.
Why arent they? Do you think if there are more and/or stricter gun laws that will stop people who intend on doing bad things from getting them?
I can help answer that.
Allow every law abiding citizen in the United States that owns a registered firearm to apply for a CCL. Statistically, this will make a difference on what is already well known to be a tremendous violent crime deterent.
Extend the waiting period for gun ownership to 45 days nationally.
Part 2 won't make a difference (statistically because it makes no difference) but it will satisfy the lefties.
Well said, thanks. Easy access is the problem but it seems willful blindness may be a bigger problem.
Still waiting for that solution that’s going to prevent events like this from happening.
You know. The solution that you said is “right there but you gents are to stubborn, proud, blind, or god knows what to accept it.”
Well said, thanks. Easy access is the problem but it seems willful blindness may be a bigger problem.
Still waiting for that solution that’s going to prevent events like this from happening.
You know. The solution that you said is “right there but you gents are to stubborn, proud, blind, or god knows what to accept it.”
Come on - grow up. You can't prevent these things but you sure as darn can take action to reduce the opportunity. This is not about insults and personal attacks. It is about a safe place for people - but you can worrry about becoming a police state etc etc etc. Good luck with that.
Like I said: you anti-2A types never offer up any real solutions and instead just give a bunch of generic emotional comments.
You remind me of Helen Lovejoy on The Simpsons always screaming “won’t somebody PLEASE think of the children,” yet never offering much else.
Come on - grow up. You can't prevent these things but you sure as darn can take action to reduce the opportunity. This is not about insults and personal attacks. It is about a safe place for people - but you can worrry about becoming a police state etc etc etc. Good luck with that.
Like I said: you anti-2A types never offer up any real solutions and instead just give a bunch of generic emotional comments.
You remind me of Helen Lovejoy on The Simpsons always screaming “won’t somebody PLEASE think of the children,” yet never offering much else.
Unfortunately the problem I see in the U.S. is that there seems to be so few restrictions as to obtaining any firearm, including millitary grade (killing machines).
Pray tell what are these “millitary grade (killing machines)”?
Unfortunately the problem I see in the U.S. is that there seems to be so few restrictions as to obtaining any firearm, including millitary grade (killing machines).
Pray tell what are these “millitary grade (killing machines)”?
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