Scal, I actually think it's very telling that though even after last night's result that trump continues to just be about a pickem to win the republican nomination, despite his overwhelming numbers and the history behind making that feat.
CNN said no one has ever won both South Carolina and New Hampshire primaries, and NOT been the republican nominee.
That's a very fishy line at a pickem. When I checked months ago, I was very surprised to see Trump tied with Marco Rubio, or even slightly behind him.
I'm going to pull up 5 dimes lines, cuz they're the best book at not gauging the players. Here's the odds winning the nomination.
Trump -115
Rubio +125
Cruz +1400
Kasich +3500
Carson +75000
For those wondering, Hillary is -120 vs. the field to become president in the general election.
So based on what I know based on sports betting, that is a fishy line for trump, and we're likely looking at a first time in history moment.
Based on his current lead and momentum, Trump should be at least a -500 to -600 favorite at this point. Cruz at 14-1 surprises me, cuz was billing him as a serious threat, but I guess he's not.
Scal, I actually think it's very telling that though even after last night's result that trump continues to just be about a pickem to win the republican nomination, despite his overwhelming numbers and the history behind making that feat.
CNN said no one has ever won both South Carolina and New Hampshire primaries, and NOT been the republican nominee.
That's a very fishy line at a pickem. When I checked months ago, I was very surprised to see Trump tied with Marco Rubio, or even slightly behind him.
I'm going to pull up 5 dimes lines, cuz they're the best book at not gauging the players. Here's the odds winning the nomination.
Trump -115
Rubio +125
Cruz +1400
Kasich +3500
Carson +75000
For those wondering, Hillary is -120 vs. the field to become president in the general election.
So based on what I know based on sports betting, that is a fishy line for trump, and we're likely looking at a first time in history moment.
Based on his current lead and momentum, Trump should be at least a -500 to -600 favorite at this point. Cruz at 14-1 surprises me, cuz was billing him as a serious threat, but I guess he's not.
Let me clarify. Granted, there isn't going to be big money being bet on the election. 5 dimes obviously has caps on these types of bets. Like with WWE, I think the max bet is like 50 bucks, or maybe the max win is 50 bucks, I don't remember.
But I will trust Vegas's odds over media odds and polls.
Full disclosure, I remember during Obama mania that McCain was still favored, and it was almost -160 at one point. I bet someone that McCain would win, not out of support, but based on the line.
Obama won going away, as most people expected.
Let me clarify. Granted, there isn't going to be big money being bet on the election. 5 dimes obviously has caps on these types of bets. Like with WWE, I think the max bet is like 50 bucks, or maybe the max win is 50 bucks, I don't remember.
But I will trust Vegas's odds over media odds and polls.
Full disclosure, I remember during Obama mania that McCain was still favored, and it was almost -160 at one point. I bet someone that McCain would win, not out of support, but based on the line.
Obama won going away, as most people expected.
According to RealClearPolitics....
Kasich apparently has the largest margin, but he's not going to get there. Rubio would be second, with nearly 5 points advantage, and Cruz would win by 1 point. Clinton would beat Trump by 3 points.
According to RealClearPolitics....
Kasich apparently has the largest margin, but he's not going to get there. Rubio would be second, with nearly 5 points advantage, and Cruz would win by 1 point. Clinton would beat Trump by 3 points.
Every candidate has their flaws, but I actually liked Rubio a lot, until he embarrassed himself with the two robotic responses in the debate before last.
Trump's flaws and questionability speak for themselves. I guess I can name them. The fact that he never says much other than "we never win anymore, we're going to be strong, we're going to build a wall." Not much substance. Also, his previous backing of democrats, his very harsh outlook on immigration. Those are just off the top of my head. Personally, I'd be uneasy knowing this guy was in charge of the country. Though it would be interesting, no doubt.
Cruz has the question of eligibility to even be president. It's also very telling that most politicians don't like him very much, and he doesn't get any kind of endorsements. Also, the VAT tax that he has proposed, I'm surprised they haven't pointed that out more. I'm not exactly sure what a VAT tax is, but apparently it doesn't have a good history of success.
Rubio with his flip flopping immigration, his only one term as senator, his roboticness, his anti-happy stance (let's see if that gets censored). But he is also by far the best speaker on stage, has the best one liners for Hillary Clinton, is likely to see a lot of Bush's support flow his way.
That's all I'm going to say about that for today.
I might not even vote in the next election based on the candidates. I've been thinking about doing some research Obamacare, though it's going to be hard to find it from non-biased sources.
If democrats win, Obamacare will be advanced, and could be cemented for a long time. If republicans win, they say they are repealing it right away. It looks like there's some good and bad, ignoring the expected bugs in its initial implementation. I found out this morning that $300 fine for not having healh insurance in 2015 is being increased to $800 in 2016. Do people like having health insurance or not? I know I do, but apparently the average citizen is paying something like $300 a month for it, simply can't afford it.
Every candidate has their flaws, but I actually liked Rubio a lot, until he embarrassed himself with the two robotic responses in the debate before last.
Trump's flaws and questionability speak for themselves. I guess I can name them. The fact that he never says much other than "we never win anymore, we're going to be strong, we're going to build a wall." Not much substance. Also, his previous backing of democrats, his very harsh outlook on immigration. Those are just off the top of my head. Personally, I'd be uneasy knowing this guy was in charge of the country. Though it would be interesting, no doubt.
Cruz has the question of eligibility to even be president. It's also very telling that most politicians don't like him very much, and he doesn't get any kind of endorsements. Also, the VAT tax that he has proposed, I'm surprised they haven't pointed that out more. I'm not exactly sure what a VAT tax is, but apparently it doesn't have a good history of success.
Rubio with his flip flopping immigration, his only one term as senator, his roboticness, his anti-happy stance (let's see if that gets censored). But he is also by far the best speaker on stage, has the best one liners for Hillary Clinton, is likely to see a lot of Bush's support flow his way.
That's all I'm going to say about that for today.
I might not even vote in the next election based on the candidates. I've been thinking about doing some research Obamacare, though it's going to be hard to find it from non-biased sources.
If democrats win, Obamacare will be advanced, and could be cemented for a long time. If republicans win, they say they are repealing it right away. It looks like there's some good and bad, ignoring the expected bugs in its initial implementation. I found out this morning that $300 fine for not having healh insurance in 2015 is being increased to $800 in 2016. Do people like having health insurance or not? I know I do, but apparently the average citizen is paying something like $300 a month for it, simply can't afford it.
Rubio: "Hillary Clinton is disqualified from being the Commander and Chief of the United States."
If he gets to use that line in the General Election, that would be a big blow. Also, his sarcastic remark to Cruz is the type of sarcasm that a lot of the young generation likes.
"I dunno how Ted Cruz knows what I said on Univision because he doesn't speak Spanish"
It would make for good TV.
Rubio: "Hillary Clinton is disqualified from being the Commander and Chief of the United States."
If he gets to use that line in the General Election, that would be a big blow. Also, his sarcastic remark to Cruz is the type of sarcasm that a lot of the young generation likes.
"I dunno how Ted Cruz knows what I said on Univision because he doesn't speak Spanish"
It would make for good TV.
You think Kasich as a 35-1 is a solid play? Personally, I think he should be the next one to drop out of the race. He's improved since the first debates, but my initial impression of him is that he looked like he was about to crap his pants on stage.
Why did Jeb Bush drop out early despite having Super PAC money to carry on? He probably realized that he was taking away a lot of votes that would go to a candidate that can take Trump down. Kasich is doing the same thing. I think Carson stays in kind of like an independent vision. He's only going to get a couple of points in each state going forward.
You think Kasich as a 35-1 is a solid play? Personally, I think he should be the next one to drop out of the race. He's improved since the first debates, but my initial impression of him is that he looked like he was about to crap his pants on stage.
Why did Jeb Bush drop out early despite having Super PAC money to carry on? He probably realized that he was taking away a lot of votes that would go to a candidate that can take Trump down. Kasich is doing the same thing. I think Carson stays in kind of like an independent vision. He's only going to get a couple of points in each state going forward.
Every candidate has their flaws, but I actually liked Rubio a lot, until he embarrassed himself with the two robotic responses in the debate before last.
Trump's flaws and questionability speak for themselves. I guess I can name them. The fact that he never says much other than "we never win anymore, we're going to be strong, we're going to build a wall." Not much substance. Also, his previous backing of democrats, his very harsh outlook on immigration. Those are just off the top of my head. Personally, I'd be uneasy knowing this guy was in charge of the country. Though it would be interesting, no doubt.
Cruz has the question of eligibility to even be president. It's also very telling that most politicians don't like him very much, and he doesn't get any kind of endorsements. Also, the VAT tax that he has proposed, I'm surprised they haven't pointed that out more. I'm not exactly sure what a VAT tax is, but apparently it doesn't have a good history of success.
Rubio with his flip flopping immigration, his only one term as senator, his roboticness, his anti-happy stance (let's see if that gets censored). But he is also by far the best speaker on stage, has the best one liners for Hillary Clinton, is likely to see a lot of Bush's support flow his way.
That's all I'm going to say about that for today.
I might not even vote in the next election based on the candidates. I've been thinking about doing some research Obamacare, though it's going to be hard to find it from non-biased sources.
If democrats win, Obamacare will be advanced, and could be cemented for a long time. If republicans win, they say they are repealing it right away. It looks like there's some good and bad, ignoring the expected bugs in its initial implementation. I found out this morning that $300 fine for not having healh insurance in 2015 is being increased to $800 in 2016. Do people like having health insurance or not? I know I do, but apparently the average citizen is paying something like $300 a month for it, simply can't afford it.
Every candidate has their flaws, but I actually liked Rubio a lot, until he embarrassed himself with the two robotic responses in the debate before last.
Trump's flaws and questionability speak for themselves. I guess I can name them. The fact that he never says much other than "we never win anymore, we're going to be strong, we're going to build a wall." Not much substance. Also, his previous backing of democrats, his very harsh outlook on immigration. Those are just off the top of my head. Personally, I'd be uneasy knowing this guy was in charge of the country. Though it would be interesting, no doubt.
Cruz has the question of eligibility to even be president. It's also very telling that most politicians don't like him very much, and he doesn't get any kind of endorsements. Also, the VAT tax that he has proposed, I'm surprised they haven't pointed that out more. I'm not exactly sure what a VAT tax is, but apparently it doesn't have a good history of success.
Rubio with his flip flopping immigration, his only one term as senator, his roboticness, his anti-happy stance (let's see if that gets censored). But he is also by far the best speaker on stage, has the best one liners for Hillary Clinton, is likely to see a lot of Bush's support flow his way.
That's all I'm going to say about that for today.
I might not even vote in the next election based on the candidates. I've been thinking about doing some research Obamacare, though it's going to be hard to find it from non-biased sources.
If democrats win, Obamacare will be advanced, and could be cemented for a long time. If republicans win, they say they are repealing it right away. It looks like there's some good and bad, ignoring the expected bugs in its initial implementation. I found out this morning that $300 fine for not having healh insurance in 2015 is being increased to $800 in 2016. Do people like having health insurance or not? I know I do, but apparently the average citizen is paying something like $300 a month for it, simply can't afford it.
Scal, I think my 4 months of political interest has made me sound more knowledgeable than I am. The last election was the first time I had ever voted (I was 26 then). I was kind of indifferent about who I wanted to be the president.
Honestly, I don't think who was the president really mattered due to the system of checks and balances preventing whoever was the man from doing crazy, radical things. Apparently Obama has been making much more use out of his executive power than most presidents.
I voted for Romney last election. I guess sometimes I'm just a hater, but I swear there's a large chunk of people that voted for Obama just because he's good looking, charming, the best presidential speaker I've ever seen, and from the AA population because he's black.
Anyways, I've only been following politics since around September. With such a large field of candidates, and the Donald factor, I've watched every Republican debate since then. I watch the Dem ones too sometimes, but it's already a forgone conclusion that Hillary is winning the Dem nominee, Sanders is just too crazy.
The day following the debate, I read the fact checking since I've found out that most things politicians say are exaggerations, if not an outright lie. The VAT tax just happened to be one of the fact check subjects.
I lean conservative, and don't really like the Government giving so many entitlements, then raising things like capital gains taxes which they swear are only for rich people. To call me rich is laughable.
But I don't agree with many conservative principles. Personally, I don't like guns, or people having guns, but I understand it's the law and they have every right to own them and conceal carry them. I'm not Christian, but it's cool that they say god bless or whatever. I think women should be able to choose if they want to abort. Some people aren't ready to be parents, and all that adds is bad situations, and more welfare checks.
Immigration, I dunno. It's touchy.
But the main thing is, I think Donald is a bit too extreme to win a general election. The immigration thing is going to take away from his latino vote, black people weren't going to vote for him anyways, and his Carly Fiorina comments probably disgust many women, including the growing feminist population. Plus the conservatives that find him too extreme.
So why nominate a guy that can't win? The only guy that really stands a chance against Hillary IMO is Rubio.
Sorry for the long post. I understand if you feel "TLDR." But I figured my opinion matters a little bit because I haven't necessarily picked a position (though I lean conservative), and am apart of the millennial generation, though my line of thinking is much different than those 5-10 years younger than me.
Scal, I think my 4 months of political interest has made me sound more knowledgeable than I am. The last election was the first time I had ever voted (I was 26 then). I was kind of indifferent about who I wanted to be the president.
Honestly, I don't think who was the president really mattered due to the system of checks and balances preventing whoever was the man from doing crazy, radical things. Apparently Obama has been making much more use out of his executive power than most presidents.
I voted for Romney last election. I guess sometimes I'm just a hater, but I swear there's a large chunk of people that voted for Obama just because he's good looking, charming, the best presidential speaker I've ever seen, and from the AA population because he's black.
Anyways, I've only been following politics since around September. With such a large field of candidates, and the Donald factor, I've watched every Republican debate since then. I watch the Dem ones too sometimes, but it's already a forgone conclusion that Hillary is winning the Dem nominee, Sanders is just too crazy.
The day following the debate, I read the fact checking since I've found out that most things politicians say are exaggerations, if not an outright lie. The VAT tax just happened to be one of the fact check subjects.
I lean conservative, and don't really like the Government giving so many entitlements, then raising things like capital gains taxes which they swear are only for rich people. To call me rich is laughable.
But I don't agree with many conservative principles. Personally, I don't like guns, or people having guns, but I understand it's the law and they have every right to own them and conceal carry them. I'm not Christian, but it's cool that they say god bless or whatever. I think women should be able to choose if they want to abort. Some people aren't ready to be parents, and all that adds is bad situations, and more welfare checks.
Immigration, I dunno. It's touchy.
But the main thing is, I think Donald is a bit too extreme to win a general election. The immigration thing is going to take away from his latino vote, black people weren't going to vote for him anyways, and his Carly Fiorina comments probably disgust many women, including the growing feminist population. Plus the conservatives that find him too extreme.
So why nominate a guy that can't win? The only guy that really stands a chance against Hillary IMO is Rubio.
Sorry for the long post. I understand if you feel "TLDR." But I figured my opinion matters a little bit because I haven't necessarily picked a position (though I lean conservative), and am apart of the millennial generation, though my line of thinking is much different than those 5-10 years younger than me.
I forgot a couple of things as well. I'll just let it all out.
The Trump phenomenon is similar to my interest in WWE, which I think Scal can understand, because I think he's been in the WWE threads.
Mainly, it's my interest in how WWE can survive and thrive despite being PG, having very predictable outcomes, and the constant pushing of Roman Reigns, even though no one likes him. I am just curious on how the WWE can put someone over like that, when fans know full well that's what they're trying to do.
With Donald, it's how he can have so much momentum, despite not having any political experience, bankrupt businesses, and his insulting/offensive comments.
One political view that I didn't mention is on ghey rights. Yes, I think happy people are weird. Yeah, it's actually pretty annoying how MTV and mainstream media glorify homosexuality these days. Yes, it's kind of gross watching two men kiss. But ghey people are still people, and they have every right to exist than any of us do. Should they be able to get married? Probably. Should they be able to get married people rights? Ehhh I guess.
My generation is more tolerant to those types of things. We don't all have to like it, but you have to embrace diversity sometimes.
Would I love to see Trump vs. Hillary on a debate stage? Sure would! Would I like him to be president? Not really.
I forgot a couple of things as well. I'll just let it all out.
The Trump phenomenon is similar to my interest in WWE, which I think Scal can understand, because I think he's been in the WWE threads.
Mainly, it's my interest in how WWE can survive and thrive despite being PG, having very predictable outcomes, and the constant pushing of Roman Reigns, even though no one likes him. I am just curious on how the WWE can put someone over like that, when fans know full well that's what they're trying to do.
With Donald, it's how he can have so much momentum, despite not having any political experience, bankrupt businesses, and his insulting/offensive comments.
One political view that I didn't mention is on ghey rights. Yes, I think happy people are weird. Yeah, it's actually pretty annoying how MTV and mainstream media glorify homosexuality these days. Yes, it's kind of gross watching two men kiss. But ghey people are still people, and they have every right to exist than any of us do. Should they be able to get married? Probably. Should they be able to get married people rights? Ehhh I guess.
My generation is more tolerant to those types of things. We don't all have to like it, but you have to embrace diversity sometimes.
Would I love to see Trump vs. Hillary on a debate stage? Sure would! Would I like him to be president? Not really.
The same thing can be said about Bernie Sanders. I wish they could put me on the stage at one of these TV appearances.
I would tell them, raising the minimum wage or giving people free college has consequences. It's a fundamental difference between republicans and democrats....
Republicans want lower taxes for people and businesses. They think less taxing on businesses allows them to keep jobs in the economy. Democrats think that giving people higher wages will pull them out of poverty, allow them to spend more and stimulate the economy.
It's debatable which will work better. I'm not an economist and don't pretend to be.
The same thing can be said about Bernie Sanders. I wish they could put me on the stage at one of these TV appearances.
I would tell them, raising the minimum wage or giving people free college has consequences. It's a fundamental difference between republicans and democrats....
Republicans want lower taxes for people and businesses. They think less taxing on businesses allows them to keep jobs in the economy. Democrats think that giving people higher wages will pull them out of poverty, allow them to spend more and stimulate the economy.
It's debatable which will work better. I'm not an economist and don't pretend to be.
The same thing can be said about Bernie Sanders. I wish they could put me on the stage at one of these TV appearances.
I would tell them, raising the minimum wage or giving people free college has consequences. It's a fundamental difference between republicans and democrats....
Republicans want lower taxes for people and businesses. They think less taxing on businesses allows them to keep jobs in the economy. Democrats think that giving people higher wages will pull them out of poverty, allow them to spend more and stimulate the economy.
It's debatable which will work better. I'm not an economist and don't pretend to be.
The same thing can be said about Bernie Sanders. I wish they could put me on the stage at one of these TV appearances.
I would tell them, raising the minimum wage or giving people free college has consequences. It's a fundamental difference between republicans and democrats....
Republicans want lower taxes for people and businesses. They think less taxing on businesses allows them to keep jobs in the economy. Democrats think that giving people higher wages will pull them out of poverty, allow them to spend more and stimulate the economy.
It's debatable which will work better. I'm not an economist and don't pretend to be.
That's a good question, and I cannot answer that because I'm not an economist.
The point of my post is that everything that happens, has an equal and opposite reaction.
An argument on the Dem side is, if you lower taxes on corporations, what makes you think they'll automatically pass that money down to employees? How do I know the CEO and board of directors isn't just gonna get a huge raise?
It makes some sense that the money will trickle down, but that requires people to not be rationally self interested, which is an underlying quality of most people. Something that I learned in college, which Bernie wants to give to people 8 years younger than me for free.
That's a good question, and I cannot answer that because I'm not an economist.
The point of my post is that everything that happens, has an equal and opposite reaction.
An argument on the Dem side is, if you lower taxes on corporations, what makes you think they'll automatically pass that money down to employees? How do I know the CEO and board of directors isn't just gonna get a huge raise?
It makes some sense that the money will trickle down, but that requires people to not be rationally self interested, which is an underlying quality of most people. Something that I learned in college, which Bernie wants to give to people 8 years younger than me for free.
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