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    I never thought I'd see the day Donald F'N Trump was an odds on favorite...

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    Posted: Feb. 21, 2016 - 7:09 PM ET #26

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    Posted: Feb. 21, 2016 - 7:18 PM ET #27

    everything gets more expensive.

    the idea of getting a head with increase in income is a fairy tale unless you can control costs and in a free market everything would rise a little higher in costs due to the margin plus 1 -5% for growth policy of inflation would double and leave the labor force actually poorer in the long run but it good simple fix that america can understand and realization of the ramifications of salary=cost increase is just to difficult for  america to comprehend.. 

    unless cost controls were adapted 
    the raise would actual be a set back in dollar worth at the markets.

    but its a good pitch and it sells. that what get politicians do to get  elected if they actually stated we have to cut services and raise taxes to provide a balanced budget they wouldnt make it throuh the primaries. imho. 
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    everything gets more expensive.

    the idea of getting a head with increase in income is a fairy tale unless you can control costs and in a free market everything would rise a little higher in costs due to the margin plus 1 -5% for growth policy of inflation would double and leave the labor force actually poorer in the long run but it good simple fix that america can understand and realization of the ramifications of salary=cost increase is just to difficult for  america to comprehend.. 

    unless cost controls were adapted 
    the raise would actual be a set back in dollar worth at the markets.

    but its a good pitch and it sells. that what get politicians do to get  elected if they actually stated we have to cut services and raise taxes to provide a balanced budget they wouldnt make it throuh the primaries. imho. 
     
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    Posted: Feb. 21, 2016 - 7:33 PM ET #28

    Quote Originally Posted by mellow_wolf:


    No. It can't. While Bernie's budget may be extraordinarily(to say it lightly) hopeful, it gives some semblance of power to the low wage and middle class workers. No Republican plan can claim the same(if any plan has even been presented).

    To falsely equivocate Trump and Bernie as equally inane candidates is part of the educational problem in this nation. You just showed it yourself. There are significant differences which you choose to gloss over.

    No need to insult me. I never insulted you.

    Yes, there are significant differences. I'm not an expert on politics, or the economy. I don't even like Trump, and I said that repeatedly in my posts.

    I was just saying that bold statements such as $15 minimum wage, free college education, and up to a 90% tax rate on the 1% can be just as bold as the things Donald Trump is saying.

    You said it yourself that Bernie's budget is extraordinary. Can't you agree that some people are following both these mainstream candidates without knowing much about either of them except a few catchphrases?

    I've watched every Republican debate, and still know pretty much nothing about Donald Trump. His "We're going to be strong and win" is just as repetitive and a main theme as Bernies "No Super PAC Wall Street Interests" theme.

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    No. It can't. While Bernie's budget may be extraordinarily(to say it lightly) hopeful, it gives some semblance of power to the low wage and middle class workers. No Republican plan can claim the same(if any plan has even been presented).

    To falsely equivocate Trump and Bernie as equally inane candidates is part of the educational problem in this nation. You just showed it yourself. There are significant differences which you choose to gloss over.

    No need to insult me. I never insulted you.

    Yes, there are significant differences. I'm not an expert on politics, or the economy. I don't even like Trump, and I said that repeatedly in my posts.

    I was just saying that bold statements such as $15 minimum wage, free college education, and up to a 90% tax rate on the 1% can be just as bold as the things Donald Trump is saying.

    You said it yourself that Bernie's budget is extraordinary. Can't you agree that some people are following both these mainstream candidates without knowing much about either of them except a few catchphrases?

    I've watched every Republican debate, and still know pretty much nothing about Donald Trump. His "We're going to be strong and win" is just as repetitive and a main theme as Bernies "No Super PAC Wall Street Interests" theme.

     
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    Posted: Feb. 21, 2016 - 9:33 PM ET #29

    People love Bernie Sanders because he's Santa Claus. You'll get everything for free if you're a good girl and boy and smoke all the pot you want and take 15 years to get your college degree. In the south he'll get destroyed

    The politicians have f*cked up so severely that's why we're at where we're at. I like Trump and I hope he wins. The media likes to say if this politician gets this many votes since Jeb dropped out etc. They don't get it... Its over. When Trump wins Nevada that's 3 state wins heading toward SEC Tuesday. Rubio hasn't won a state at all

    Like it or not Trump will beat whatever democrat they pick in November.

     

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    People love Bernie Sanders because he's Santa Claus. You'll get everything for free if you're a good girl and boy and smoke all the pot you want and take 15 years to get your college degree. In the south he'll get destroyed

    The politicians have f*cked up so severely that's why we're at where we're at. I like Trump and I hope he wins. The media likes to say if this politician gets this many votes since Jeb dropped out etc. They don't get it... Its over. When Trump wins Nevada that's 3 state wins heading toward SEC Tuesday. Rubio hasn't won a state at all

    Like it or not Trump will beat whatever democrat they pick in November.

     

     
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    Posted: Feb. 21, 2016 - 10:42 PM ET #30

    hope all 4 camps get well funded individual endorsements and dig in their heels.
     the continued split delegates = brokered convention and that is always alot of fun when smoke filled backroom deals to the finest caliber trump says he can negotiate . well be a good start before he tackles china a gop brokered convention is a great place to warm up tiger
    come july/august this will be must see tv.
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    hope all 4 camps get well funded individual endorsements and dig in their heels.
     the continued split delegates = brokered convention and that is always alot of fun when smoke filled backroom deals to the finest caliber trump says he can negotiate . well be a good start before he tackles china a gop brokered convention is a great place to warm up tiger
    come july/august this will be must see tv.
     
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    Posted: Feb. 22, 2016 - 1:06 AM ET #31

    Your "training day scene" comparison makes absolutely no sense.
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    Your "training day scene" comparison makes absolutely no sense.
     
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    Posted: Feb. 22, 2016 - 1:33 AM ET #32

    Don won the big 3. 
    Dude that has Trump for for both GOPN and GE win should hold. 
    Wow, go go Don. 
    Hillary is yelling, literally. Sanders is a non issue.
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    Don won the big 3. 
    Dude that has Trump for for both GOPN and GE win should hold. 
    Wow, go go Don. 
    Hillary is yelling, literally. Sanders is a non issue.
     
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    Posted: Feb. 22, 2016 - 1:33 AM ET #33

    Quote Originally Posted by VanDutch:




    Min. wage goes from $8.00 to $15.00 per hour , what does the worker get that is already making $15.00 per hour?.. 

     That, my friend, is the right question....
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    Min. wage goes from $8.00 to $15.00 per hour , what does the worker get that is already making $15.00 per hour?.. 

     That, my friend, is the right question....
     
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    Posted: Feb. 22, 2016 - 1:37 AM ET #34

    Don's advisers are BRILLIANT. 
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    Don's advisers are BRILLIANT. 
     
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    Posted: Feb. 22, 2016 - 10:08 AM ET #35

    Trump has got this.  It's his to phuck up.

    I'm voting Rubio but I think Search is right.  Trump will get the GOP nod, and I'll have to vote for him.  


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    Trump has got this.  It's his to phuck up.

    I'm voting Rubio but I think Search is right.  Trump will get the GOP nod, and I'll have to vote for him.  


     
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    Posted: Feb. 22, 2016 - 10:58 AM ET #36

    Quote Originally Posted by mellow_wolf:


    No. It can't. While Bernie's budget may be extraordinarily(to say it lightly) hopeful, it gives some semblance of power to the low wage and middle class workers. No Republican plan can claim the same(if any plan has even been presented).

    To falsely equivocate Trump and Bernie as equally inane candidates is part of the educational problem in this nation. You just showed it yourself. There are significant differences which you choose to gloss over.

    Giving some "semblance of power" to low and middle class workers.
    Funny, that's what Obama said. How'd that work out?

    You reference the "educational problem in this nation" while speaking of comparing Trump (a Republican) to Sanders (a Democrat) while taking a thinly veiled shot at the GOP. 

    Trickle up, or trickle down.
    Believe what you will.
    At the end of the day, the poor have no chance of ANY government in this country giving them what Bernie would have you believe he will give them.
    bigreds daddy
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    No. It can't. While Bernie's budget may be extraordinarily(to say it lightly) hopeful, it gives some semblance of power to the low wage and middle class workers. No Republican plan can claim the same(if any plan has even been presented).

    To falsely equivocate Trump and Bernie as equally inane candidates is part of the educational problem in this nation. You just showed it yourself. There are significant differences which you choose to gloss over.

    Giving some "semblance of power" to low and middle class workers.
    Funny, that's what Obama said. How'd that work out?

    You reference the "educational problem in this nation" while speaking of comparing Trump (a Republican) to Sanders (a Democrat) while taking a thinly veiled shot at the GOP. 

    Trickle up, or trickle down.
    Believe what you will.
    At the end of the day, the poor have no chance of ANY government in this country giving them what Bernie would have you believe he will give them.
     
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    Posted: Feb. 22, 2016 - 12:03 PM ET #37

    For GOP, Marco Rubio will have better chance of winning the 2016 Presidential Election than Donald Trump. Hillary Clinton will be breathing easier by facing Trump than facing Rubio in this Presidential Election. 
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    For GOP, Marco Rubio will have better chance of winning the 2016 Presidential Election than Donald Trump. Hillary Clinton will be breathing easier by facing Trump than facing Rubio in this Presidential Election. 
     
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    Posted: Feb. 22, 2016 - 12:57 PM ET #38

    Quote Originally Posted by Doja45:

    Your "training day scene" comparison makes absolutely no sense.


    actually men in black ref
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    Quote Originally Posted by Doja45:

    Your "training day scene" comparison makes absolutely no sense.


    actually men in black ref
     
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    Posted: Feb. 22, 2016 - 2:18 PM ET #39

    Quote Originally Posted by slamspurs:

    Let me clarify. Granted, there isn't going to be big money being bet on the election. 5 dimes obviously has caps on these types of bets. Like with WWE, I think the max bet is like 50 bucks, or maybe the max win is 50 bucks, I don't remember.

    But I will trust Vegas's odds over media odds and polls.

    Full disclosure, I remember during Obama mania that McCain was still favored, and it was almost -160 at one point. I bet someone that McCain would win, not out of support, but based on the line.

    Obama won going away, as most people expected.


    https://www.yahoo.com/politics/jimmy-the-bookie-handicaps-the-election-from-a-134408477.html
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    Let me clarify. Granted, there isn't going to be big money being bet on the election. 5 dimes obviously has caps on these types of bets. Like with WWE, I think the max bet is like 50 bucks, or maybe the max win is 50 bucks, I don't remember.

    But I will trust Vegas's odds over media odds and polls.

    Full disclosure, I remember during Obama mania that McCain was still favored, and it was almost -160 at one point. I bet someone that McCain would win, not out of support, but based on the line.

    Obama won going away, as most people expected.


    https://www.yahoo.com/politics/jimmy-the-bookie-handicaps-the-election-from-a-134408477.html
     
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    Posted: Feb. 22, 2016 - 2:43 PM ET #40

    trump must win a majority in one state before i would say he will win the presidency the fireld narrows and he reamains at 33% is not a goood sign for it splits delegates.

    cruz trump ticket was a note worth having but cruz and trump in fighting blew that chance . his only chance is at the convention accepting rubio as his running mate and rubio accepting the vp position. because two senators and former governor will weild the sword of power vs a ex democrat in a lone wolf secnario. 2 beats 1 its just that simple.
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    trump must win a majority in one state before i would say he will win the presidency the fireld narrows and he reamains at 33% is not a goood sign for it splits delegates.

    cruz trump ticket was a note worth having but cruz and trump in fighting blew that chance . his only chance is at the convention accepting rubio as his running mate and rubio accepting the vp position. because two senators and former governor will weild the sword of power vs a ex democrat in a lone wolf secnario. 2 beats 1 its just that simple.
     
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    Posted: Feb. 22, 2016 - 2:48 PM ET #41

    and if he screws the pooch in the convention he is out of roads to challenge because he will simply not have enough time to put the signatures on the petions to have his name on the ballot come november. as an independent. he needs kasich to throw his support or rubio his support to give him the number to move to gop nominee.
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    and if he screws the pooch in the convention he is out of roads to challenge because he will simply not have enough time to put the signatures on the petions to have his name on the ballot come november. as an independent. he needs kasich to throw his support or rubio his support to give him the number to move to gop nominee.
     
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    Posted: Feb. 22, 2016 - 2:50 PM ET #42

    and vp to that mans ego is not an option.
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    and vp to that mans ego is not an option.
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by packers1992:

    People love Bernie Sanders because he's Santa Claus. You'll get everything for free if you're a good girl and boy and smoke all the pot you want and take 15 years to get your college degree. In the south he'll get destroyed

    The politicians have f*cked up so severely that's why we're at where we're at. I like Trump and I hope he wins. The media likes to say if this politician gets this many votes since Jeb dropped out etc. They don't get it... Its over. When Trump wins Nevada that's 3 state wins heading toward SEC Tuesday. Rubio hasn't won a state at all

    Like it or not Trump will beat whatever democrat they pick in November.

     


    Actually everything you believe he's giving for 'free' are fixtures in very successful industrialized nations. And before you harp on their financial problems, look at ours WITHOUT those massive benefits.
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    Quote Originally Posted by packers1992:

    People love Bernie Sanders because he's Santa Claus. You'll get everything for free if you're a good girl and boy and smoke all the pot you want and take 15 years to get your college degree. In the south he'll get destroyed

    The politicians have f*cked up so severely that's why we're at where we're at. I like Trump and I hope he wins. The media likes to say if this politician gets this many votes since Jeb dropped out etc. They don't get it... Its over. When Trump wins Nevada that's 3 state wins heading toward SEC Tuesday. Rubio hasn't won a state at all

    Like it or not Trump will beat whatever democrat they pick in November.

     


    Actually everything you believe he's giving for 'free' are fixtures in very successful industrialized nations. And before you harp on their financial problems, look at ours WITHOUT those massive benefits.
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Doja45:

    Your "training day scene" comparison makes absolutely no sense.
    then you need to find the clip and rewatch it on YouTube (I can't find it) or you don't understand what was being said in that scene.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Doja45:

    Your "training day scene" comparison makes absolutely no sense.
    then you need to find the clip and rewatch it on YouTube (I can't find it) or you don't understand what was being said in that scene.


     
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    Posted: Feb. 22, 2016 - 10:47 PM ET #45

    Quote Originally Posted by scalabrine:

    And before you harp on their financial problems, look at ours WITHOUT those massive benefits.

    I'm not saying you are wrong, but please list those countries
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    Quote Originally Posted by scalabrine:

    And before you harp on their financial problems, look at ours WITHOUT those massive benefits.

    I'm not saying you are wrong, but please list those countries
     
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    Posted: Feb. 23, 2016 - 12:34 AM ET #46

    Quote Originally Posted by scalabrine:

    Quote Originally Posted by Doja45:

    Your "training day scene" comparison makes absolutely no sense.
    then you need to find the clip and rewatch it on YouTube (I can't find it) or you don't understand what was being said in that scene.

    I know the movie well. Not exactly a complicated movie or scene for that matter.
    I guess you're saying that in both instances "nobody thought" something was going to happen. Then you go on about how Denzel got the $ by shooting Scott Glenn, and if you follow the $ ( I guess in reference to trump) it doesn't lie...
    Either way I'm pretty sure you don't know what the hell you're talking about.
    Go Trump
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    Quote Originally Posted by scalabrine:

    Quote Originally Posted by Doja45:

    Your "training day scene" comparison makes absolutely no sense.
    then you need to find the clip and rewatch it on YouTube (I can't find it) or you don't understand what was being said in that scene.

    I know the movie well. Not exactly a complicated movie or scene for that matter.
    I guess you're saying that in both instances "nobody thought" something was going to happen. Then you go on about how Denzel got the $ by shooting Scott Glenn, and if you follow the $ ( I guess in reference to trump) it doesn't lie...
    Either way I'm pretty sure you don't know what the hell you're talking about.
    Go Trump
     
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    Posted: Feb. 23, 2016 - 6:53 AM ET #47

    Quote Originally Posted by gfinger:


    https://www.yahoo.com/politics/jimmy-the-bookie-handicaps-the-election-from-a-134408477.html

    I saw that article, but I would rather go by a sportsbook (5 dimes) that's actually taking wagers on the election, instead of a guy who is making up lines "for entertainment purposes only" because betting on the election in the US is illegal.

    Basically the difference between putting your money where your mouth is, and just talking.

    Trump is up to -130, Rubio +130, Cruz +1800, Kasich down to +2000, and Carson with +7500.

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    https://www.yahoo.com/politics/jimmy-the-bookie-handicaps-the-election-from-a-134408477.html

    I saw that article, but I would rather go by a sportsbook (5 dimes) that's actually taking wagers on the election, instead of a guy who is making up lines "for entertainment purposes only" because betting on the election in the US is illegal.

    Basically the difference between putting your money where your mouth is, and just talking.

    Trump is up to -130, Rubio +130, Cruz +1800, Kasich down to +2000, and Carson with +7500.

     
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    I love all the republican candidates. Each one brings his own special brand of lunacy to the race, and I pray that one of them wins the general election. I want to see either an environment so poisonous that all the christian conservatives get to watch their children, or even funnier their grandchildren die from the filth. I will even take some jackass republican that will start a dirty bomb war with the Muslim world. Again I will laugh myself sick at the deaths of their precious scions that happen in the retaliations. Go Mr. Red Tie.
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    I love all the republican candidates. Each one brings his own special brand of lunacy to the race, and I pray that one of them wins the general election. I want to see either an environment so poisonous that all the christian conservatives get to watch their children, or even funnier their grandchildren die from the filth. I will even take some jackass republican that will start a dirty bomb war with the Muslim world. Again I will laugh myself sick at the deaths of their precious scions that happen in the retaliations. Go Mr. Red Tie.
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Want2ride:

    I love all the republican candidates. Each one brings his own special brand of lunacy to the race, and I pray that one of them wins the general election. I want to see either an environment so poisonous that all the christian conservatives get to watch their children, or even funnier their grandchildren die from the filth. I will even take some jackass republican that will start a dirty bomb war with the Muslim world. Again I will laugh myself sick at the deaths of their precious scions that happen in the retaliations. Go Mr. Red Tie.

    All the environmental conscience @ssholes that lack the presence of testicles between their legs should have the future environment last on their minds when our children and grandchildren are paying for all the debt that the Obama Admin costs us.

    Mr. Blue Tie has done enough spending money that our future generations will have to foot 

    Millenials in this country are the laziest bunch of pu$$ies for the most part.  All these high school/college kids are so liberal and soft.  These are the same kids who are voting for Bernie or Hillary.

    I'd bet anything that 10 times out of 10 that my 18 year old self and friends would kick the ever loving sh!t out of today's graduating class of my alma mater.
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    I love all the republican candidates. Each one brings his own special brand of lunacy to the race, and I pray that one of them wins the general election. I want to see either an environment so poisonous that all the christian conservatives get to watch their children, or even funnier their grandchildren die from the filth. I will even take some jackass republican that will start a dirty bomb war with the Muslim world. Again I will laugh myself sick at the deaths of their precious scions that happen in the retaliations. Go Mr. Red Tie.

    All the environmental conscience @ssholes that lack the presence of testicles between their legs should have the future environment last on their minds when our children and grandchildren are paying for all the debt that the Obama Admin costs us.

    Mr. Blue Tie has done enough spending money that our future generations will have to foot 

    Millenials in this country are the laziest bunch of pu$$ies for the most part.  All these high school/college kids are so liberal and soft.  These are the same kids who are voting for Bernie or Hillary.

    I'd bet anything that 10 times out of 10 that my 18 year old self and friends would kick the ever loving sh!t out of today's graduating class of my alma mater.
     
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Slobbasaurus:

    All these high school/college kids are so liberal and soft.  These are the same kids who are voting for Bernie or Hillary.


    I realize this is a very small sample size, but my youngest son, who is 19, and most of his friends are very interested in politics for the 1st time. This interest has been spurred by Trump, and subsequently they are all Trump supporters. 
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    All these high school/college kids are so liberal and soft.  These are the same kids who are voting for Bernie or Hillary.


    I realize this is a very small sample size, but my youngest son, who is 19, and most of his friends are very interested in politics for the 1st time. This interest has been spurred by Trump, and subsequently they are all Trump supporters. 
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