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    I never thought I'd see the day Donald F'N Trump was an odds on favorite...

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    Posted: Mar. 2, 2016 - 8:37 PM ET #76

    I thought I'd add a few new comments.

    One, Hillary Clinton is now -200 to win the election. Trump is +260.

    I heard a Trump supporter's justification this morning and thought it was very fascinating.

    He said Donald makes outlandish statements sometimes because it gives him free publicity. While all the other candidates are spending millions and millions of dollars in PAC money, he's paying nothing, and they talk about him alllllll day long.

    If this is true, it's truly genius, but in this case I really don't think this bad publicity is doing him much good.

    About him not being a true conservative candidate, I'm perfectly fine with that. As I've said before, I don't agree with all the values of the Republican party. So I'm okay if he has a mix of both parties thoughts.

    Sad, but I'm warming up to him being a candidate. If he tries to do anything too crazy, congress and the judicial branch will shoot him down.

    Rubio says not everything is a business negotiation, but he's wrong about that IMO. A negotiation is a negotiation. You take some, you give some, doesn't matter what it is. Some people are better negotiators than others. Sometimes you don't want to piss someone off and put blame on them, even if you know they're wrong.

    It doesn't matter though. He's pissed off enough Hispanics, muslims, and women that he'll never win.

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    I thought I'd add a few new comments.

    One, Hillary Clinton is now -200 to win the election. Trump is +260.

    I heard a Trump supporter's justification this morning and thought it was very fascinating.

    He said Donald makes outlandish statements sometimes because it gives him free publicity. While all the other candidates are spending millions and millions of dollars in PAC money, he's paying nothing, and they talk about him alllllll day long.

    If this is true, it's truly genius, but in this case I really don't think this bad publicity is doing him much good.

    About him not being a true conservative candidate, I'm perfectly fine with that. As I've said before, I don't agree with all the values of the Republican party. So I'm okay if he has a mix of both parties thoughts.

    Sad, but I'm warming up to him being a candidate. If he tries to do anything too crazy, congress and the judicial branch will shoot him down.

    Rubio says not everything is a business negotiation, but he's wrong about that IMO. A negotiation is a negotiation. You take some, you give some, doesn't matter what it is. Some people are better negotiators than others. Sometimes you don't want to piss someone off and put blame on them, even if you know they're wrong.

    It doesn't matter though. He's pissed off enough Hispanics, muslims, and women that he'll never win.

     
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    Posted: Mar. 2, 2016 - 8:39 PM ET #77

    For the record, I did my part. I voted for Marco Rubio. Unfortunately, the rest of the country voted for that phony Ted Cruz that no one in congress likes. That fake smirk and chin nod he does is annoying as crap.
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    For the record, I did my part. I voted for Marco Rubio. Unfortunately, the rest of the country voted for that phony Ted Cruz that no one in congress likes. That fake smirk and chin nod he does is annoying as crap.
     
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    Posted: Mar. 2, 2016 - 9:57 PM ET #78

    Donald Chump can keep winning these states all he wants, but he is not winning enough of a percentage at his current pace to win the nomination outright. If Kasich and Carson don't get out, and Cruz and Rubio keep the races somewhat close, the Oompa Loompa cannot get the needed 52%.

    We are headed for a contested convention. I just took Cruz at +1800 because he should keep polling ahead of Marco, with the exception of Florida, and that should get the GOP's attention.

    Also took Romney to win the Presidency at 100/1 because I could easily see him announcing a run at this as he sees the disdain for all of the candidates from the American voting public.

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    Donald Chump can keep winning these states all he wants, but he is not winning enough of a percentage at his current pace to win the nomination outright. If Kasich and Carson don't get out, and Cruz and Rubio keep the races somewhat close, the Oompa Loompa cannot get the needed 52%.

    We are headed for a contested convention. I just took Cruz at +1800 because he should keep polling ahead of Marco, with the exception of Florida, and that should get the GOP's attention.

    Also took Romney to win the Presidency at 100/1 because I could easily see him announcing a run at this as he sees the disdain for all of the candidates from the American voting public.

     
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    Posted: Mar. 3, 2016 - 12:18 AM ET #79

    Quote Originally Posted by Greedybastard:

    Donald Chump can keep winning these states all he wants, but he is not winning enough of a percentage at his current pace to win the nomination outright. If Kasich and Carson don't get out, and Cruz and Rubio keep the races somewhat close, the Oompa Loompa cannot get the needed 52%.

    We are headed for a contested convention. I just took Cruz at +1800 because he should keep polling ahead of Marco, with the exception of Florida, and that should get the GOP's attention.

    Also took Romney to win the Presidency at 100/1 because I could easily see him announcing a run at this as he sees the disdain for all of the candidates from the American voting public.

    Romney is only slightly bigger in republican politics that Osama bin laden. Actually if they exhumed ronny reagan he would probably win the nomination. That shows the strength of repubs in national elections. They have given up in that arena, they concentrate in local politics, to keep the gridlock in Washington going. It's perfect for their corporate masters. No change and a status quo is what they have been all about, forever. The business of america is taking money from the poor and middle class and donating it to the wealthy. Case closed.                                        Btw the last brokered convention was 64 years ago. Good luck with that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Greedybastard:

    Donald Chump can keep winning these states all he wants, but he is not winning enough of a percentage at his current pace to win the nomination outright. If Kasich and Carson don't get out, and Cruz and Rubio keep the races somewhat close, the Oompa Loompa cannot get the needed 52%.

    We are headed for a contested convention. I just took Cruz at +1800 because he should keep polling ahead of Marco, with the exception of Florida, and that should get the GOP's attention.

    Also took Romney to win the Presidency at 100/1 because I could easily see him announcing a run at this as he sees the disdain for all of the candidates from the American voting public.

    Romney is only slightly bigger in republican politics that Osama bin laden. Actually if they exhumed ronny reagan he would probably win the nomination. That shows the strength of repubs in national elections. They have given up in that arena, they concentrate in local politics, to keep the gridlock in Washington going. It's perfect for their corporate masters. No change and a status quo is what they have been all about, forever. The business of america is taking money from the poor and middle class and donating it to the wealthy. Case closed.                                        Btw the last brokered convention was 64 years ago. Good luck with that.
     
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    Posted: Mar. 3, 2016 - 12:26 AM ET #80

    Quote Originally Posted by slamspurs:

    I dunno what the criteria for winning the debate is. If you consider winning that he was able to keep his insurmountable lead, then yeah I guess he won. If the criteria that he didn't suffer catastrophic failure before Super Tuesday, I guess you could say he won.

    But I don't think he gained points there, and I think Cruz got just enough points back to take back Texas. That may actually be the best thing for Trump too. The longer Rubio and Cruz both stay in, the more they siphon votes off each other. If Cruz loses Texas, which his campaign manager says is a must-win, he might as well drop out.

    Sucked for Trump that he was stuck in the middle of two people constantly attacking him, but it made for good TV and I'm sure CNN loved it.

    Because Kasich doesn't get as much time as the leaders, he has to repeat his campaign win theme constantly. It gets pretty annoying sometimes.

    I think we get a debate every week for the next 3 weeks or so. We'll see if Trump has the balls to come up with details of his plans in the mean time, because he's going to keep getting prodded repeatedly until he does.

    Do I care that he agreed with Hillary Clinton on certain things? Not really. Trump should use this as a comeback:

    "So what if I agree with Hillary on one issue? Just because we're republicans and they're democrats doesn't mean we have to have the complete opposite position. Should I not like ice cream just because Hillary Clinton does?"

    Do I care that he has switched positions over the last 30 years? No, people change their opinions all the time. Things change.

    Do I care that he used money to lobby for special interests with people, including Hillary? No, but it sounds bad she brought it up in a debate between the two.

    Do I care that he makes his Trump line clothing in China and Mexico? No, but it makes him look really bad when one of his main themes is how we don't win with China.

    Do I care that he subcontracted out work to a company that used illegals? No, when you're the head of a company you don't have time to go over all the granular details of vetting the people doing demolition.

    Mexico was never going to pay for the wall. I'm impressed how he was able to diffuse that topic so easily by simply saying "They will, and it just got 10 feet taller" joke. Like I said before, bulletproof. 

    I'm not trying to justify for Trump. I don't even like him as a candidate. But when you're running a business, the goal is to make money. When you're the president, you have a different mindset.

    I have a lot of friends that believe in that Illuminati crap. I just tell them, don't talk about it with me, I'm not interested. If there is some secret society, you either get in, or don't worry about it. Nothing you can do anyways. All it does it make you hate the world, which leads to a crappy life.

    Let me repeat that, hating the world really gives you a crappy life. You're always angry, cynical, and no one wants to be around you.


    your bolded statement is spot on. I detest the idea of Trump being president or even being as competitive as he has for this long. But there is nothing wrong with agreeing with "the other side on some issues". In fact I would say that that type of "crossover" is necessary and refreshing to be honest. 

    to blancket hate everything that is said just because it is said by a person with a certain political affiliation is childish, unwise, and dangerous.
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    Quote Originally Posted by slamspurs:

    I dunno what the criteria for winning the debate is. If you consider winning that he was able to keep his insurmountable lead, then yeah I guess he won. If the criteria that he didn't suffer catastrophic failure before Super Tuesday, I guess you could say he won.

    But I don't think he gained points there, and I think Cruz got just enough points back to take back Texas. That may actually be the best thing for Trump too. The longer Rubio and Cruz both stay in, the more they siphon votes off each other. If Cruz loses Texas, which his campaign manager says is a must-win, he might as well drop out.

    Sucked for Trump that he was stuck in the middle of two people constantly attacking him, but it made for good TV and I'm sure CNN loved it.

    Because Kasich doesn't get as much time as the leaders, he has to repeat his campaign win theme constantly. It gets pretty annoying sometimes.

    I think we get a debate every week for the next 3 weeks or so. We'll see if Trump has the balls to come up with details of his plans in the mean time, because he's going to keep getting prodded repeatedly until he does.

    Do I care that he agreed with Hillary Clinton on certain things? Not really. Trump should use this as a comeback:

    "So what if I agree with Hillary on one issue? Just because we're republicans and they're democrats doesn't mean we have to have the complete opposite position. Should I not like ice cream just because Hillary Clinton does?"

    Do I care that he has switched positions over the last 30 years? No, people change their opinions all the time. Things change.

    Do I care that he used money to lobby for special interests with people, including Hillary? No, but it sounds bad she brought it up in a debate between the two.

    Do I care that he makes his Trump line clothing in China and Mexico? No, but it makes him look really bad when one of his main themes is how we don't win with China.

    Do I care that he subcontracted out work to a company that used illegals? No, when you're the head of a company you don't have time to go over all the granular details of vetting the people doing demolition.

    Mexico was never going to pay for the wall. I'm impressed how he was able to diffuse that topic so easily by simply saying "They will, and it just got 10 feet taller" joke. Like I said before, bulletproof. 

    I'm not trying to justify for Trump. I don't even like him as a candidate. But when you're running a business, the goal is to make money. When you're the president, you have a different mindset.

    I have a lot of friends that believe in that Illuminati crap. I just tell them, don't talk about it with me, I'm not interested. If there is some secret society, you either get in, or don't worry about it. Nothing you can do anyways. All it does it make you hate the world, which leads to a crappy life.

    Let me repeat that, hating the world really gives you a crappy life. You're always angry, cynical, and no one wants to be around you.


    your bolded statement is spot on. I detest the idea of Trump being president or even being as competitive as he has for this long. But there is nothing wrong with agreeing with "the other side on some issues". In fact I would say that that type of "crossover" is necessary and refreshing to be honest. 

    to blancket hate everything that is said just because it is said by a person with a certain political affiliation is childish, unwise, and dangerous.
     
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    Posted: Mar. 5, 2016 - 6:29 PM ET #81

    Rubio made me embarrassed that I voted for him on the debate Thursday. Him trying to talk over Donald repeatedly was annoying, and the yelling and fighting continued to make the party look bad.

    It looks like Cruz is having a nice day today. To me, it's anyone #AnybodyButCruz.

    Abolishing the IRS and making people fill out details on a post card? A flat (VAT) tax, that Forbes says would tax the poor and middle class more because they spend most of the money they make?

    On top of me just not liking his phony politician smirk and nod. There's a reason why nobody likes him, Democrats and Republicans congress members alike.

    If it's Cruz and Hillary, and I may even vote for Hillary. I live in a swing state too.

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    Rubio made me embarrassed that I voted for him on the debate Thursday. Him trying to talk over Donald repeatedly was annoying, and the yelling and fighting continued to make the party look bad.

    It looks like Cruz is having a nice day today. To me, it's anyone #AnybodyButCruz.

    Abolishing the IRS and making people fill out details on a post card? A flat (VAT) tax, that Forbes says would tax the poor and middle class more because they spend most of the money they make?

    On top of me just not liking his phony politician smirk and nod. There's a reason why nobody likes him, Democrats and Republicans congress members alike.

    If it's Cruz and Hillary, and I may even vote for Hillary. I live in a swing state too.

     
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    Posted: Mar. 5, 2016 - 6:50 PM ET #82

    Quote Originally Posted by Greedybastard:

    We are headed for a contested convention. I just took Cruz at +1800 because he should keep polling ahead of Marco, with the exception of Florida, and that should get the GOP's attention.

    That was a good bet. You may even be able to hedge for a good amount soon. Ted Cruz odds have surged according to one site I checked. He's only +350 to +400 on several sites now.

    The foregone winner and frontrunner Trump is only -200 to -250 now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Greedybastard:

    We are headed for a contested convention. I just took Cruz at +1800 because he should keep polling ahead of Marco, with the exception of Florida, and that should get the GOP's attention.

    That was a good bet. You may even be able to hedge for a good amount soon. Ted Cruz odds have surged according to one site I checked. He's only +350 to +400 on several sites now.

    The foregone winner and frontrunner Trump is only -200 to -250 now.

     
     
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    Posted: Mar. 6, 2016 - 1:13 AM ET #83

    Trump hung himself in the last debate. 

    Thank god. 

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    Trump hung himself in the last debate. 

    Thank god. 

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