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What does your wife think of this little adventure?  Did you promise her a life of riches and no more working?
 
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If you can hit 60% online by August 1 and you're making money, then why not just keep doing what you're doing?  Why uproot your family?  Sounds more like you want to live out some romanticized fantasy rather than providing for your family.

And why 60%?  How about just trying to make the most money possible?  Would you rather hit 60% and make $20,000 or hit 54% and win $100,000?  You need a plan to make money, not to hit a certain percentage.

When I look at my results, I only know what I won and lost, I could give a fuck less about what % I might have hit.
 
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Quote Originally Posted by depeche2:

If you can hit 60% online by August 1 and you're making money, then why not just keep doing what you're doing?  Why uproot your family?  Sounds more like you want to live out some romanticized fantasy rather than providing for your family.

And why 60%?  How about just trying to make the most money possible?  Would you rather hit 60% and make $20,000 or hit 54% and win $100,000?  You need a plan to make money, not to hit a certain percentage.

When I look at my results, I only know what I won and lost, I could give a fuck less about what % I might have hit.

Bingo.

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Well the fact of the matter here is that there probably are not many people that take the same approach to betting sports that Vanzack does. That is why the OP can't give you a straight answer on why he thinks moving to Vegas is a good idea. To him betting a -110 line vs. a -102 or -105 line does not matter because he is ignorant.

If I were going to move to Vegas it would not be so i could gamble on sports "professionally. It would be to get the fuck away from the Midwest winters.
 
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I hit the HIIIGHWAY, making money the FLYYYY WAY
But there's got to be a BETT-ER WAYY!
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Quote Originally Posted by bigone44:

Alright, I'm sure you've all heard the story of the guy that was totally bored with his life...30 yrs old (balding), dead end job, living in a shithole town (Dallas, Ga. to be exact) that woke up one day and said, "to hell with it all, I'm moving to Vegas and becoming a professional sports handicapper."

I did the whole college thing...actually went to Kennesaw State University for 9 years and still don't have a degree, although technically, I have enough credits to have 3 different degrees. I've got the going-nowhere job going on...I manage a 3 minute, exterior express carwash and if I have to listen to one more customer try to tell me the car wash scratched their piece of shit kia I'm going to grab someone by their weave and hold their face in front of the high pressure wheel blasters...needless to say I can't take it anymore and have decided this is the year I do something totally drastic and follow my dream for a change.

A wise man once said, "To be truly successful in life, you must do something you are passionate about."....which got me to thinking, the only thing I've ever been passionate about is sports betting. I've been capping games since I graduated highschool in 1998.  I've followed the life of Steve Budin (Bets, Drugs and Rock n' Roll is one of the best books of all time) and have come to the conclusion that it is time I took a calculated risk.

Sadly we all know how this story ends 90% of the time.  Within 6 months, the undisiplined, egotistical, get-rich-quick schemer is back home, working back at the same dead end job and broker than they were before....and to that I say, nothing ventured, nothing gained.  I have now told myself, If I can pick 60% winners from now until Aug. 1st, Im renting myself a condo and planting my ass at the Mirage....Follow my journey!!

Did you listen to the Covers Radio Show today?

The Prez and Steve Merrill talk about this thread and have got some good advice.

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Quote Originally Posted by Rocafella:

Wanna be a -- baller, shot caller
Twenty inch blades -- on the Impala
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I hit the HIIIGHWAY, making money the FLYYYY WAY
But there's got to be a BETT-ER WAYY!
A better way, better way, YEAH-AHHHH

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Vanzack, I couldn't agree more. For the serious professional sports bettor, there isn't much incentive to move to Vegas anymore.  Offshore books will provide a much better platform for a handicapping career.  Aside from the low juice arbitrage advantages, offshore books provide more wagering options, earlier opening lines, higher limits, etc, etc.  Keep in mind though that choosing the right combination of offshore books is as important as the wagers you'll be making with them.  Moving south of the border isn't a bad idea either.  Living offshore, you don't have to pay taxes on the first $85,700 you earn, and will be much less likely to be audited living a cash lifestyle or filing as a professional gambler. In Latin America, there are also sportsbooks that will still accept wagers traditionally not offered elsewhere (correlated parlays, etc.). 
 
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Quote Originally Posted by I-Got-5-On-It:

Did you listen to the Covers Radio Show today?

The Prez and Steve Merrill talk about this thread and have got some good advice.

I actually listened but didnt hear it - at what time in the show did they talk and what did they say?

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Quote Originally Posted by vanzack:

I actually listened but didnt hear it - at what time in the show did they talk and what did they say?

Towards the middle of the show after they finished with the bowl games,say about after 15-20 minutes into the show.

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bigone44:

Might not be the smartest move, might lead to a loss of all your money, might go against all rationale.........

BUT


FOLLOW YOUR DREAMS!!

You have an idea what you want to try. The only way YOU will know is if you do it. You have thought about the consequences. It's your life. You have the freedom to live it the way you want.

Good luck and continue to keep us updated


 
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Best of luck in your quest. I think you've got a shot, provided you can be disciplined with your bankroll.

I would second Vanzack's suggestion though. Vegas may be fun, but all that fun costs money over and above the money you cost yourself by not getting the best lines available which are found online.

Good luck!
 
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Quote Originally Posted by depeche2:

If you can hit 60% online by August 1 and you're making money, then why not just keep doing what you're doing?  Why uproot your family?  Sounds more like you want to live out some romanticized fantasy rather than providing for your family.

And why 60%?  How about just trying to make the most money possible?  Would you rather hit 60% and make $20,000 or hit 54% and win $100,000?  You need a plan to make money, not to hit a certain percentage.

When I look at my results, I only know what I won and lost, I could give a fuck less about what % I might have hit.
 
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I'm currently not actually placing wagers online on the games I'm picking...just picking them on wagerline  (i.e. I'm not making any money off of my picks)...and I'm just using 60% as a gauge to see if I can pick enough winners to make an uproot worth while.    I'm definitely not ignorant and have no problem listening to (and applying) sound advice....

Thanks for letting me know about the advantages of betting offshore (higher limits on totals, more wagering options, less juice, etc)...Didn't I mention I had bet online for a long time and am well aware of the advantages that offshore betting provides!!!....Unlike some of you however, I also realize there are some disadvantages to offshore wagering (like potentially moving to a shitty third world country, having to constantly shuffle money around, receiving checks that my bank may or may not cash...on top of having to wait weeks to get the payment in the first place)

 
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Quote Originally Posted by Ned_Parsons:

Vanzack, I couldn't agree more. For the serious professional sports bettor, there isn't much incentive to move to Vegas anymore.  Offshore books will provide a much better platform for a handicapping career.  Aside from the low juice arbitrage advantages, offshore books provide more wagering options, earlier opening lines, higher limits, etc, etc.  Keep in mind though that choosing the right combination of offshore books is as important as the wagers you'll be making with them.  Moving south of the border isn't a bad idea either.  Living offshore, you don't have to pay taxes on the first $85,700 you earn, and will be much less likely to be audited living a cash lifestyle or filing as a professional gambler. In Latin America, there are also sportsbooks that will still accept wagers traditionally not offered elsewhere (correlated parlays, etc.). 

 

I ALREADY KNOW THAT OFFSHORE BETTING PROVIDES BETTER LINES!!!!.....As far as moving south of the border is concerned, what do you all think about Ciudad Juarez...I hear the local police force is hiring...I could subsidize my gambling habit, my family would be in a safe environment, and I'll get much better lines, and I won't have to worry about the man comin down on me...Great idea!

 
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Quote Originally Posted by vanzack:

And Steve Budin "put online gambling on the map" because he says he did and wrote a book about it?

You dont know shit about online gambling, otherwise we wouldnt even be having this discussion.

Steve Budin is currently a born again tout, selling picks like every other lying scheming tout.  No wonder you like him.

And speaking of lying scheming touts, what do you think those two ass clown experts (and I use that term very loosely), "The Prez" and Steve Merrill are...you were so interested to hear what they had to say.  I listened to their shit radio show yesterday....I found it rather amusing, especially the part where they say what a genius I am!  haha...keep up the good work guys I use your show often to get my fades for the day.

As far as the book "Smart Money" goes, I own it and have read it twice...thanks for the recommendation though.

Gotta love touts!! (a.k.a. guys who make a living off of selling ridiculously overpriced educated guesses they got from information any asshole with a laptop could have found)- Wayne Root would be proud.

 

 
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[Quote: Originally Posted by bigone44]

I'm currently not actually placing wagers online on the games I'm picking...just picking them on wagerline  (i.e. I'm not making any money off of my picks)...and I'm just using 60% as a gauge to see if I can pick enough winners to make an uproot worth while.    I'm definitely not ignorant and have no problem listening to (and applying) sound advice....

 

It's cool,,,,thats what 90% of your covers' peers are doing as well,,,,,,,,,,

WAGERLINE CONTESTS !!!!! YAY!!!!!! 

 

 

 

 

 
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Ive started threads in several of the forums trying to get some folks to give FOREX a try....practice accounts are free at just about every broker

We have threads up in the investment forum come check it out...

 
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Quote Originally Posted by bigone44:

I'm currently not actually placing wagers online on the games I'm picking...just picking them on wagerline  (i.e. I'm not making any money off of my picks)...and I'm just using 60% as a gauge to see if I can pick enough winners to make an uproot worth while.    I'm definitely not ignorant and have no problem listening to (and applying) sound advice....

Thanks for letting me know about the advantages of betting offshore (higher limits on totals, more wagering options, less juice, etc)...Didn't I mention I had bet online for a long time and am well aware of the advantages that offshore betting provides!!!....Unlike some of you however, I also realize there are some disadvantages to offshore wagering (like potentially moving to a shitty third world country, having to constantly shuffle money around, receiving checks that my bank may or may not cash...on top of having to wait weeks to get the payment in the first place)

You are extremely naive.

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Quote Originally Posted by bigone44:

And speaking of lying scheming touts, what do you think those two ass clown experts (and I use that term very loosely), "The Prez" and Steve Merrill are...you were so interested to hear what they had to say.  I listened to their shit radio show yesterday....I found it rather amusing, especially the part where they say what a genius I am!  haha...keep up the good work guys I use your show often to get my fades for the day.

As far as the book "Smart Money" goes, I own it and have read it twice...thanks for the recommendation though.

Gotta love touts!! (a.k.a. guys who make a living off of selling ridiculously overpriced educated guesses they got from information any asshole with a laptop could have found)- Wayne Root would be proud.

 

I am interested in what anyone has to say, including wagerline picking, non-real money betting, square morons as evidenced by this thread.

And I never recommended "Smart Money".

I would lay 1000-1 that you couldnt make money sportsgambling even going 60%.

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Never has this line been more approppriate.....

 

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Quote Originally Posted by bigone44:

I'm currently not actually placing wagers online on the games I'm picking...just picking them on wagerline  (i.e. I'm not making any money off of my picks)...and I'm just using 60% as a gauge to see if I can pick enough winners to make an uproot worth while.    I'm definitely not ignorant and have no problem listening to (and applying) sound advice....

Thanks for letting me know about the advantages of betting offshore (higher limits on totals, more wagering options, less juice, etc)...Didn't I mention I had bet online for a long time and am well aware of the advantages that offshore betting provides!!!....Unlike some of you however, I also realize there are some disadvantages to offshore wagering (like potentially moving to a shitty third world country, having to constantly shuffle money around, receiving checks that my bank may or may not cash...on top of having to wait weeks to get the payment in the first place)

 

Even if you hit 60% over the span of a few months it's very hard to do it over the course of several years which you'll need to hit if you're going to be a pro gambler.55% is a more realistic target and as for moving overseas have you considered the UK or Ireland where sports betting is 100% legal and TAX FREE.You can bet in sportsbooks (bookie shops) on the street or online.There is a 2% betting tax on stakes which is paid by the bookie on bets placed in shops and there are dozens of online accounts to choose from all of which are fully licensed and regulated.

Also if you are into the financial markets  you can bet on commodities,shares,forex etc. without being liable to tax which you would be if you were buying or selling shares or trades.This is known as financial spread betting or trading and is a good alternative to actually trading using a broker.

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Quote Originally Posted by vanzack:

I am interested in what anyone has to say, including wagerline picking, non-real money betting, square morons as evidenced by this thread.

And I never recommended "Smart Money".

I would lay 1000-1 that you couldnt make money sportsgambling even going 60%.

Wow, I said I wouldn't indulge your childish game...but oh well, it's entertaining.

I was referring to "Smart Money" as it was recommended to me by your buddies on Covers radio.  Seeing as how you probably don't read what other people write since you are so busy pushing anything that covers pushes, I won't be looking to you for book recommendations....Love your last thread as well...."Hey guys, look at this guys major...hahaha"   I see where your maturity level stands.

-The caveman

 

P.S. I GOT 5 ON It

Please read my previous posts about moving overseas...thanks

 
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why dont you just become a bookie with your $50k
 
 
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Quote Originally Posted by mikeasarch:

why dont you just become a bookie with your $50k

 

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