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Quote Originally Posted by BostonStrangler:

So God didnt created the dinosaurs?

Everything that has been created was by the work of Almighty God!

He even created mrgetrich...who doesn't even realize it...lol

 
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Quote Originally Posted by Rostos:

You are free to believe in whatever you want to believe,,,,

Take a look at the evidence, and you decide what is true and not true...


I find no evidence either way to believe or not to.  I still choose to believe in something.  I just don't know what it is.  And I prefer it that way.  I enjoy the mystery of what it could be rather than thinking I know what it is.  Personal preference though.
 
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"Science without religion is lame; religion without science is blind."

Albert Einstein
 
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Rostos and Sir John Drake your cogent arguements have finally persuaded me.

This video also helped me....
 
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Quote Originally Posted by AustinHoopDream:

Rostos and Sir John Drake your cogent arguements have finally persuaded me.

This video also helped me....

 

you too?  this is what did it for me. 

 
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Quote Originally Posted by callmetim:

"Science without religion is lame; religion without science is blind."

Albert Einstein




 

"two branches of the same tree"

 
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"I don't give a rat's ass what Albert Einstein says about religion and I hope Rostos and SJD get AIDS."

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Quote Originally Posted by AustinHoopDream:

"I don't give a rat's ass what Albert Einstein says about religion and I hope Rostos and SJD get AIDS."

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One day, when your 16 year old son wraps the car around a tree while not wearing a seatbelt and he gets rushed to the ER,  then the MD tells you there is nothing he can do for your boy, then who will you turn to?

Now, if you do not have children right now in your life, then you cannot fathom the amount of love you are capable of dispensing. And by the way, when/if this ever happens to you, I will guarantee you that you will get religion damn quick.
 
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One day, when your 16 year old son wraps the car around a tree while not wearing a seatbelt and he gets rushed to the ER,  then the MD tells you there is nothing he can do for your boy, then who will you turn to?

Now, if you do not have children right now in your life, then you cannot fathom the amount of love you are capable of dispensing. And by the way, when/if this ever happens to you, I will guarantee you that you will get religion damn quick.

that is absurd and nothing on this earth will ever make me believe there is a nice guy in sky. i watched my father die at the hospital and i did 2 tours in iraq. those experiences have me firmly convinced that there is NO god. feeble minds turn to faith in the face of a vulgarity they cannot comprehend.


 
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Quote Originally Posted by callmetim:



One day, when your 16 year old son wraps the car around a tree while not wearing a seatbelt and he gets rushed to the ER,  then the MD tells you there is nothing he can do for your boy, then who will you turn to?

Now, if you do not have children right now in your life, then you cannot fathom the amount of love you are capable of dispensing. And by the way, when/if this ever happens to you, I will guarantee you that you will get religion damn quick.

i agree with austin.  i know emotions like desperation and insecurity can compromise one's intellect and ability to use logic and reason but why, after an incident like that, would i turn to an all-powerful god that at best allowed the crash to happen but possibly even directed it to happen?  that just doesn't make sense to me.  
 
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i agree with austin.  i know emotions like desperation and insecurity can compromise one's intellect and ability to use logic and reason but why, after an incident like that, would i turn to an all-powerful god that at best allowed the crash to happen but possibly even directed it to happen?  that just doesn't make sense to me.  



FUCK THAT SHIT! YOU TWO ARE GOING TO HIT YOUR KNEES AND TRY TO GET SOME MO-JO GOING. FUCK MAN...THIS IS YOUR KID - YOU WOULD PULL OUT ALL THE STOPS
REGARDLESS OF YOUR BELIEFS.



 
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Quote Originally Posted by callmetim:




FUCK THAT SHIT! YOU TWO ARE GOING TO HIT YOUR KNEES AND TRY TO GET SOME MO-JO GOING. FUCK MAN...THIS IS YOUR KID - YOU WOULD PULL OUT ALL THE STOPS
REGARDLESS OF YOUR BELIEFS.




Even if they did, it wouldn't prove there was a god. And what makes you think it would make a difference? Why would "god" save one person, but not another? Do you think everyone who prays for someone gets what they pray for? Prayer just makes people feel better...
 
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Quote Originally Posted by AustinHoopDream:

"I don't give a rat's ass what Albert Einstein says about religion and I hope Rostos and SJD get AIDS."

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Why are you making this personal? Have i attacked or said anything derogatory to you personally? yet you have attacked me and hope i die...why? Why such anger?

Your remarks smack of despair and emotion that is not based on knowldge but of hatred in your heart.

The fact that i preach Christianity on here which is full of goodness and love, yet you responding like that further illustrates my point.

 
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Quote Originally Posted by AustinHoopDream:


that is absurd and nothing on this earth will ever make me believe there is a nice guy in sky. i watched my father die at the hospital and i did 2 tours in iraq. those experiences have me firmly convinced that there is NO god. feeble minds turn to faith in the face of a vulgarity they cannot comprehend.


Give me one good reason why your father dying (RIP) and you going through Iraq twice means there is no God....Give us one good valid reason......

 
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Quote Originally Posted by ClubDirt:


i agree with austin.  i know emotions like desperation and insecurity can compromise one's intellect and ability to use logic and reason but why, after an incident like that, would i turn to an all-powerful god that at best allowed the crash to happen but possibly even directed it to happen?  that just doesn't make sense to me.  

So, are we here in the real world that is fallen by sin or are we God's pets?

 
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Even if they did, it wouldn't prove there was a god. And what makes you think it would make a difference? Why would "god" save one person, but not another? Do you think everyone who prays for someone gets what they pray for? Prayer just makes people feel better...

And how do you know this?

 
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Quote Originally Posted by Rostos:

So, are we here in the real world that is fallen by sin or are we God's pets?

my best attempt at answering this is as follows;  i don't know what the fuck you are talking about. 

 
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Quote Originally Posted by ClubDirt:

my best attempt at answering this is as follows;  i don't know what the fuck you are talking about. 

You seem to have a problem understanding that just one of the consequences of human free will is evil and tragic consequences.

 
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Quote Originally Posted by Rostos:

You seem to have a problem understanding that just one of the consequences of human free will is evil and tragic consequences.

 

please refer back to post #417

 
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Quote Originally Posted by Rostos:

And how do you know this?


How do I know what I asked him a question, I didn't make a statement. Please try to read more carefully. 
 
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Quote Originally Posted by ClubDirt:

my best attempt at answering this is as follows;  i don't know what the fuck you are talking about. 


Don't feel bad brother dirt, half the time he doesn't even know what he's talking about...
 
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How do I know what I asked him a question, I didn't make a statement. Please try to read more carefully. 

It sounds like a rhetorical question especially with the follow up comment you made straight after......

 
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Quote Originally Posted by Rostos:

It sounds like a rhetorical question especially with the follow up comment you made straight after......


Ok, here's a question, have people died or had bad things happen to them even after they have been prayed for?
 
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Quote Originally Posted by Rostos:

Give me one good reason why your father dying (RIP) and you going through Iraq twice means there is no God....Give us one good valid reason......


i do not have to give you any reasons. nothing i, or anyone else for that matter, have to say to you will make the slightest bit of difference to you. you believe what you believe and seem to get a giant hard on talking and talking and talking and trying to convince people you are right. reading post after post after post it becomes abundantly clear you just love to blather and pontificate about a subject that ultimately can never be resolved.
 
 
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Quote Originally Posted by AustinHoopDream:


i do not have to give you any reasons. nothing i, or anyone else for that matter, have to say to you will make the slightest bit of difference to you. you believe what you believe and seem to get a giant hard on talking and talking and talking and trying to convince people you are right. reading post after post after post it becomes abundantly clear you just love to blather and pontificate about a subject that ultimately can never be resolved.

read the title of the thread.......

Arent i entitled to defend my faith?

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