Proof that there is no god.

Can all the believers on here just admit, JUST ADMIT, that the only reason you believe in one god or another is because your parents drilled it into your heads?  It's common sense...if you were born on an isolated island where the people believed a sea monster created the Earth then that's what you'd believe, too.  You wouldn't wake up one day, 40 years old all the sudden being like "hey, wait a second, JESUS is the real god, not Pu-KlaKTU the seahag."

On another note...if somebody really REALLLLLLY believes, then shouldn't that person give it all away and spend their lives in poverty, doing all they can to help the sick and the poor? 

Quote Posted by ClubDirt:

nigeria has a lot of problems as do other smaller countries in africa and the middle east and a lot of them have to do with religion.  that distinguishes those countries from sweden and denmark which is the point rj made.

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Nigeria is not really a small country when compared to Denmark or Sweden. Nigeria has a population of approx. 155 mil and so of course they are going to have more problems than those tiny countries of Denmark and Sweden...lol

And another point to make is that there are religious people living in Denmark and Sweden. Granted there are not that many but again it is attributed to their relatively small populations.

And like I said in my previous post most of Nigeria's problems are not entirely due to their religious beliefs, it stems from fighting over land, resources and ethinic issues.

Quote Posted by AgentCooper:

My guess is 10,000 years from now, many of the traditional religions that people subscribe to now will be totally replaced by other, similarly insane, religions.

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Like your Klondor religion or whatever you called it?...lol

Quote Posted by ClubDirt:

i just pointed out there are other small countries with a shitload of problems that are very religious.  i still doesn't understand how size plays a big factor. 
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You just made a general statement not based on facts but probably based on you being biased. After all you are a non-believer in God.

If you don't understand how size plays a big factor...what else can I say to you to help you understand?

It seems so elementary to me to understand simple logic and so why are you having a hard time?...lol

Must be your biased perspective getting in the way.

Quote Posted by AgentCooper:

Can all the believers on here just admit, JUST ADMIT, that the only reason you believe in one god or another is because your parents drilled it into your heads? 

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I can honestly say, and God knows I'm telling the truth and nothing but the truth so help me God!!...that no, my parents never drilled it into my head and brainwashed me into believing in Almighty God!

Genetic fallacy!!

Ad Hominem

Prosperity of human life has nothing to do with Gods exisetnce.

The main world religions (Christianity, Islam and Judaism) all believe and worship the same God......

Stop appealing to the genetic fallacy.....

What about people who were raised by atheist parents, lived as atheists and then turned to Christianity later in their lives?

There are tens of thousands who have done this...How do you explain that?

Ok, here is something for you gentleman to have a think about....

Skeptics such as yourselves have been around since humanity began.

Meaning, skeptics were around the time of Jesus and obviously after.

Here is the question. Why arent their any counter claims / writings at the time of Jesus or just after when the Gospels were being written?

Think of this. At the time of Jesus and just after when the gospels were written, we saw a transformation of scoeity based on these gospels. That is, the construction and establishment of Churches, persecution of Gospel followers, people devoting their lives to the gospel, ie, Priests , bishops etc etc....

So, if you are a skeptic at that time, society is changing. As a skeptic, wouldnt you go and INVESTIGATE the claims being made in the gospels?

The first gospels were written approx 50 years after the crucifixion, therefore, many if not all of the people mentioned in the gospels, WERE STILL around, or most definitly there children....

THis is made much more easier as it was a small country town where the majority of people knew each other, , ie, not like NYC people know only a small percentage of each other...

Here is an example. We know about the story of Elizabeth and her husband Lazarus who Jesus raised from the dead. If you are a skeptic, read this, and people started to change their lives based on this....wouldnt you as a skeptic go to Elizabeth or at least her children and ask if it really happened? Or what about the claim that Jesus fed 5000 people with fish and bread?

These are claims that around the time of the gospels were written would be well known facts TO EVERYONE.......yet if not true,

WHY WASNT THEIR ANYONE, ESPECIALLY skeptics investigating these many claims and documented these?

Here is an example.

Suppose, right now, there is no technology, no TV, phones, email, Cameras, newspapers etc etc, these NEVER existed, and for the next 100 years , their will be no technology....

Lets say in 40 years time, i walk into NYC and i see some writings that some planes flew into the world trade centre and destroyed these buildings and 5 thousand people died. Names of the people that died from this story were mentioned, their relatives etc etc..

Thats a pretty big thing right? Lets also say that this event transformed the city of NYC and people changed from this event which this document that i read alleges.....

Lets say, that i am skeptical that this event even happened (remember, i never heard of it because there was no technology).....i read this document, wouldnt it be LOGICAL for me as a skeptic to investigate this claim? Wouldnt i walk upto people and ask, "did this really happen"....I would expect to recieve an overwhelming yes, it did happen as many of the people saw it, affected by it and lives changed from it......

Now, lets say, it actually never happened, no buildings were destroyed, lets say these buildings we speak of were taken down by other means and no one was killed, everything that was written was a lie.....BUT, even though it is a lie, people still changed there lives based on this story, memorials were built etc etc, but it was all a lie.....

WOuldnt skeptics at the time investigate the claim and if it never happened, document this , show the crowd that hey, it is a delusion and put it to bed?

Their will be no writings claiming that sept 11 never happened, because it did......just like i dont expect to see writings and we dont (at the time) that what happened in the bible never actually happened, because it must have, otherwise, skeptics at the time, will be all over it like a rash.....