“If God did not exist, it would be necessary to invent him”
There's thousands of gods that have been put to rest, some of us take it one god further
oh. i was 11 pages late joining in, n this is your only post ive read, but im gonna assume you already dusted em off. did i atleast help you out with the college economics findings? you dont have to answer, i dont think ill ever be in this thread again.
got it from a documentary about an atheist turned christian. its pretty good. basically comes down to if jesus rose from death everyone should be a christian. if not the entire religion will die.
its arguement is that if jesus' rising was a scam, then they wouldnt have had a bunch of skanks that nobody respected be the ones to find him missing. of course then he appeared in front of hundreds of witness the next day.
oh. i was 11 pages late joining in, n this is your only post ive read, but im gonna assume you already dusted em off. did i atleast help you out with the college economics findings? you dont have to answer, i dont think ill ever be in this thread again.
got it from a documentary about an atheist turned christian. its pretty good. basically comes down to if jesus rose from death everyone should be a christian. if not the entire religion will die.
its arguement is that if jesus' rising was a scam, then they wouldnt have had a bunch of skanks that nobody respected be the ones to find him missing. of course then he appeared in front of hundreds of witness the next day.
im gonna take a lil bit of this beating off of you though.... as far as faith improving chistian lives goes. faith in anything improves peoples lives. life the book, the secret, which is retarded, or people praying to a healing rock. they really think that shit works.
and i did used to wonder if religion was formed as a way of controlling the people, like the book of eli. that documentary i read explains how these peoples reputation depended on them presenting the truth. the writers in the new testament getting their findings wrong are about as likely as someone writing about pistol pete now and screwing up the facts. just couldnt have happened. there were 1000s of people still alive that knew jesus. the old testament described the messiah exactly. a perfect description of jesus. miracles he would perform, how he would die, and how he would rise... which brings me to what i need to know now..... how in the hell are person still person?
im gonna take a lil bit of this beating off of you though.... as far as faith improving chistian lives goes. faith in anything improves peoples lives. life the book, the secret, which is retarded, or people praying to a healing rock. they really think that shit works.
and i did used to wonder if religion was formed as a way of controlling the people, like the book of eli. that documentary i read explains how these peoples reputation depended on them presenting the truth. the writers in the new testament getting their findings wrong are about as likely as someone writing about pistol pete now and screwing up the facts. just couldnt have happened. there were 1000s of people still alive that knew jesus. the old testament described the messiah exactly. a perfect description of jesus. miracles he would perform, how he would die, and how he would rise... which brings me to what i need to know now..... how in the hell are person still person?
naw, heard it in a documentary.. have you seen that book? im not reading that. its long as hell.
naw, heard it in a documentary.. have you seen that book? im not reading that. its long as hell.
by the way, i just said that was the arguement of the documentary. told you where it came from and you asked me how i knew. i dont. ask the atheist turned christian that talked to hundreds of history professors. dont ask me.
by the way, i just said that was the arguement of the documentary. told you where it came from and you asked me how i knew. i dont. ask the atheist turned christian that talked to hundreds of history professors. dont ask me.
naw, heard it in a documentary.. have you seen that book? im not reading that. its long as hell.
naw, heard it in a documentary.. have you seen that book? im not reading that. its long as hell.
i get your question now. you actually want to know how they knew...
okay theres actual history geeks that went to crazy lengths to find out the rules of the area... the reputations of those envolved. the amount of respect certain occupatations had to carry. the lifestyles and corruption of times... you know, had to make sure this wasnt the david keresh of the bible days. and basically found that who checked out. according to them mathew mark luke and john, had awesome reputations and were very attentive to the details of their work. it was kinda their masterpiece, and they had to be very careful recording what they found, and testing it with 100s of witnesses. that answer your question
i get your question now. you actually want to know how they knew...
okay theres actual history geeks that went to crazy lengths to find out the rules of the area... the reputations of those envolved. the amount of respect certain occupatations had to carry. the lifestyles and corruption of times... you know, had to make sure this wasnt the david keresh of the bible days. and basically found that who checked out. according to them mathew mark luke and john, had awesome reputations and were very attentive to the details of their work. it was kinda their masterpiece, and they had to be very careful recording what they found, and testing it with 100s of witnesses. that answer your question
The fact that the Bible is the most popular and read book in the world, that was written thousands of years ago is a clear indication of GOD's will to send the message.....
That is a miracle in itself.....
Believe in it people......
Just the very nature of the bible and the world rules and the implications involved are amazing.....
Eg, one of the ten commandments is not to steal.......in Society today, if u steal, u most likely eventually get caught and there are negative implications for the individual that steals.......
Thy shall not kill.......is another example.....if u are involved in drug dealing, not only is it frowned upon by GOD, but generally people who are involved in this business more than likely end up living a life of blood on there hands...........
So, what i am basically saying is that, the moral law which is VISIBLE in human society echoes the very underlying nature of christianity.......
Some people KNOW, it is WRONG to murder, take drugs, steal etc, yet they stil ignore it and stilll do it.......they know it is wrong, yet still do it....
God IMO has come to every one on this earth in one way or another, but people (free will) choose to ignore him........
If man is thristy, only water can satisfy that thirst.......Nothing else is possible to satisfy......
However, there is nothing on this earth that can give man the ultimate joy apart from heavan...........Man has a need for Joy, and nothing on this earth can satisfy that........
SO where are u gonna get that joy from?
Alot of people imo chose to ignore GOD cause of the life they live, they know that chosen life is wrong and fear for judgement , hence by fearing judgement , they chose to ignore his existence.......
Just another example of people not wanting to take resposnibility for there own actions.......
Remember, happy to those who believe but dont see.......
The fact that the Bible is the most popular and read book in the world, that was written thousands of years ago is a clear indication of GOD's will to send the message.....
That is a miracle in itself.....
Believe in it people......
Just the very nature of the bible and the world rules and the implications involved are amazing.....
Eg, one of the ten commandments is not to steal.......in Society today, if u steal, u most likely eventually get caught and there are negative implications for the individual that steals.......
Thy shall not kill.......is another example.....if u are involved in drug dealing, not only is it frowned upon by GOD, but generally people who are involved in this business more than likely end up living a life of blood on there hands...........
So, what i am basically saying is that, the moral law which is VISIBLE in human society echoes the very underlying nature of christianity.......
Some people KNOW, it is WRONG to murder, take drugs, steal etc, yet they stil ignore it and stilll do it.......they know it is wrong, yet still do it....
God IMO has come to every one on this earth in one way or another, but people (free will) choose to ignore him........
If man is thristy, only water can satisfy that thirst.......Nothing else is possible to satisfy......
However, there is nothing on this earth that can give man the ultimate joy apart from heavan...........Man has a need for Joy, and nothing on this earth can satisfy that........
SO where are u gonna get that joy from?
Alot of people imo chose to ignore GOD cause of the life they live, they know that chosen life is wrong and fear for judgement , hence by fearing judgement , they chose to ignore his existence.......
Just another example of people not wanting to take resposnibility for there own actions.......
Remember, happy to those who believe but dont see.......
The fact that the Bible is the most popular and read book in the world, that was written thousands of years ago is a clear indication of GOD's will to send the message.....
That is a miracle in itself.....
Believe in it people......
Just the very nature of the bible and the world rules and the implications involved are amazing.....
Eg, one of the ten commandments is not to steal.......in Society today, if u steal, u most likely eventually get caught and there are negative implications for the individual that steals.......
Thy shall not kill.......is another example.....if u are involved in drug dealing, not only is it frowned upon by GOD, but generally people who are involved in this business more than likely end up living a life of blood on there hands...........
So, what i am basically saying is that, the moral law which is VISIBLE in human society echoes the very underlying nature of christianity.......
Some people KNOW, it is WRONG to murder, take drugs, steal etc, yet they stil ignore it and stilll do it.......they know it is wrong, yet still do it....
God IMO has come to every one on this earth in one way or another, but people (free will) choose to ignore him........
If man is thristy, only water can satisfy that thirst.......Nothing else is possible to satisfy......
However, there is nothing on this earth that can give man the ultimate joy apart from heavan...........Man has a need for Joy, and nothing on this earth can satisfy that........
SO where are u gonna get that joy from?
Alot of people imo chose to ignore GOD cause of the life they live, they know that chosen life is wrong and fear for judgement , hence by fearing judgement , they chose to ignore his existence.......
Just another example of people not wanting to take resposnibility for there own actions.......
Remember, happy to those who believe but dont see.......
Well said! This is in my view the best post I have ever read from you.
Normally I read posts from you crying about fixed games whether it be the NBA, NFL or MLB...lol
The fact that the Bible is the most popular and read book in the world, that was written thousands of years ago is a clear indication of GOD's will to send the message.....
That is a miracle in itself.....
Believe in it people......
Just the very nature of the bible and the world rules and the implications involved are amazing.....
Eg, one of the ten commandments is not to steal.......in Society today, if u steal, u most likely eventually get caught and there are negative implications for the individual that steals.......
Thy shall not kill.......is another example.....if u are involved in drug dealing, not only is it frowned upon by GOD, but generally people who are involved in this business more than likely end up living a life of blood on there hands...........
So, what i am basically saying is that, the moral law which is VISIBLE in human society echoes the very underlying nature of christianity.......
Some people KNOW, it is WRONG to murder, take drugs, steal etc, yet they stil ignore it and stilll do it.......they know it is wrong, yet still do it....
God IMO has come to every one on this earth in one way or another, but people (free will) choose to ignore him........
If man is thristy, only water can satisfy that thirst.......Nothing else is possible to satisfy......
However, there is nothing on this earth that can give man the ultimate joy apart from heavan...........Man has a need for Joy, and nothing on this earth can satisfy that........
SO where are u gonna get that joy from?
Alot of people imo chose to ignore GOD cause of the life they live, they know that chosen life is wrong and fear for judgement , hence by fearing judgement , they chose to ignore his existence.......
Just another example of people not wanting to take resposnibility for there own actions.......
Remember, happy to those who believe but dont see.......
Well said! This is in my view the best post I have ever read from you.
Normally I read posts from you crying about fixed games whether it be the NBA, NFL or MLB...lol
I hope you take your faith off everything and let reason rule your life......you sound like a religious gambler on a nfl sunday that promises god 10% of the winnings if he lets your team win!
I hope you take your faith off everything and let reason rule your life......you sound like a religious gambler on a nfl sunday that promises god 10% of the winnings if he lets your team win!
your an idiot and know nothing of my faith or me, not even as a poster, after 12 pages of actual discussion you come out from under a rock with a Penn and Teller youtube clip, if your not going to contribute anything than please stop before your get a green bar
your an idiot and know nothing of my faith or me, not even as a poster, after 12 pages of actual discussion you come out from under a rock with a Penn and Teller youtube clip, if your not going to contribute anything than please stop before your get a green bar
your an idiot and know nothing of my faith or me, not even as a poster, after 12 pages of actual discussion you come out from under a rock with a Penn and Teller youtube clip, if your not going to contribute anything than please stop before your get a green bar
your an idiot and know nothing of my faith or me, not even as a poster, after 12 pages of actual discussion you come out from under a rock with a Penn and Teller youtube clip, if your not going to contribute anything than please stop before your get a green bar
The fact that the Bible is the most popular and read book in the world, that was written thousands of years ago is a clear indication of GOD's will to send the message.....
That is a miracle in itself.....
Believe in it people......
Just the very nature of the bible and the world rules and the implications involved are amazing.....
Funny how you leave out the parts about slavery, genocide, and rape....great world rules
Eg, one of the ten commandments is not to steal.......in Society today, if u steal, u most likely eventually get caught and there are negative implications for the individual that steals.......
Thy shall not kill.......is another example.....if u are involved in drug dealing, not only is it frowned upon by GOD, but generally people who are involved in this business more than likely end up living a life of blood on there hands...........
Here is all you need to know about the 10 commandments
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YzEs2nj7iZM
Not the best rules to live your life by... I don't need the 10 commandments to know right from wrong...
So, what i am basically saying is that, the moral law which is VISIBLE in human society echoes the very underlying nature of christianity.......
Some people KNOW, it is WRONG to murder, take drugs, steal etc, yet they stil ignore it and stilll do it.......they know it is wrong, yet still do it....
God IMO has come to every one on this earth in one way or another, but people (free will) choose to ignore him........
If man is thristy, only water can satisfy that thirst.......Nothing else is possible to satisfy......
However, there is nothing on this earth that can give man the ultimate joy apart from heavan...........Man has a need for Joy, and nothing on this earth can satisfy that........
SO where are u gonna get that joy from?
I get joy from living my life, my friends and family, and contributing to society. Not from make believe.
Alot of people imo chose to ignore GOD cause of the life they live, they know that chosen life is wrong and fear for judgement , hence by fearing judgement , they chose to ignore his existence.......
Just another example of people not wanting to take resposnibility for there own actions.......
Nonsense
Remember, happy to those who believe but dont see.......
The fact that the Bible is the most popular and read book in the world, that was written thousands of years ago is a clear indication of GOD's will to send the message.....
That is a miracle in itself.....
Believe in it people......
Just the very nature of the bible and the world rules and the implications involved are amazing.....
Funny how you leave out the parts about slavery, genocide, and rape....great world rules
Eg, one of the ten commandments is not to steal.......in Society today, if u steal, u most likely eventually get caught and there are negative implications for the individual that steals.......
Thy shall not kill.......is another example.....if u are involved in drug dealing, not only is it frowned upon by GOD, but generally people who are involved in this business more than likely end up living a life of blood on there hands...........
Here is all you need to know about the 10 commandments
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YzEs2nj7iZM
Not the best rules to live your life by... I don't need the 10 commandments to know right from wrong...
So, what i am basically saying is that, the moral law which is VISIBLE in human society echoes the very underlying nature of christianity.......
Some people KNOW, it is WRONG to murder, take drugs, steal etc, yet they stil ignore it and stilll do it.......they know it is wrong, yet still do it....
God IMO has come to every one on this earth in one way or another, but people (free will) choose to ignore him........
If man is thristy, only water can satisfy that thirst.......Nothing else is possible to satisfy......
However, there is nothing on this earth that can give man the ultimate joy apart from heavan...........Man has a need for Joy, and nothing on this earth can satisfy that........
SO where are u gonna get that joy from?
I get joy from living my life, my friends and family, and contributing to society. Not from make believe.
Alot of people imo chose to ignore GOD cause of the life they live, they know that chosen life is wrong and fear for judgement , hence by fearing judgement , they chose to ignore his existence.......
Just another example of people not wanting to take resposnibility for there own actions.......
Nonsense
Remember, happy to those who believe but dont see.......
How many times do i have to say this, yes, slavery, rape etc etc etc, GOD gave man free will....man did this.......why are u blaming God for this? i dont understand...............
Did u want it that if man was raping a woman he would ge automatically electrocuted or something.......
Man has free will, he can do what he likes, blaming God is nonsense, take resposnibility for your own actions.....
Joy from friends, family etc etc.....yes u are correct..but that is not the joy i am talking about........what about when they get sick, or cross you or betray you (happens in every family)......thats not the joy i am talking about.,....u cant find the ultimate joy in this earth.....remember the ultimate joy........
At the end of the day, i cant impose nothing on you and vice verse, but seriously, as each day goes by u are closer and closer to being in a state of just empty darkness for eternity based on your beliefs......
How many times do i have to say this, yes, slavery, rape etc etc etc, GOD gave man free will....man did this.......why are u blaming God for this? i dont understand...............
Did u want it that if man was raping a woman he would ge automatically electrocuted or something.......
Man has free will, he can do what he likes, blaming God is nonsense, take resposnibility for your own actions.....
Joy from friends, family etc etc.....yes u are correct..but that is not the joy i am talking about........what about when they get sick, or cross you or betray you (happens in every family)......thats not the joy i am talking about.,....u cant find the ultimate joy in this earth.....remember the ultimate joy........
At the end of the day, i cant impose nothing on you and vice verse, but seriously, as each day goes by u are closer and closer to being in a state of just empty darkness for eternity based on your beliefs......
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