"President Bush, in a townhall type setting, said... He was standing outside the classroom waiting to go inside and see the children when he saw on TV the FIRSTplane hit the towers and he thought to himself "what a terrible pilot... it must have been an accident" (This is on video...ANYWHERE)"
Provide a link?
I don't know where you stand but I do recommend you start looking for the truth yourself, whether to make yourself believe the story more or to finally see that the whole prefabed official report stinks along with these criminals who are trying to cover it up.
You can't get anymore busted for a flat out pile of bullshit than Bush does here.
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Quote Originally Posted by kaponofor3:
"President Bush, in a townhall type setting, said... He was standing outside the classroom waiting to go inside and see the children when he saw on TV the FIRSTplane hit the towers and he thought to himself "what a terrible pilot... it must have been an accident" (This is on video...ANYWHERE)"
Provide a link?
I don't know where you stand but I do recommend you start looking for the truth yourself, whether to make yourself believe the story more or to finally see that the whole prefabed official report stinks along with these criminals who are trying to cover it up.
"President Bush, in a townhall type setting, said... He was standing outside the classroom waiting to go inside and see the children when he saw on TV the FIRSTplane hit the towers and he thought to himself "what a terrible pilot... it must have been an accident" (This is on video...ANYWHERE)"
Provide a link?
I don't know where you stand but I do recommend you start looking for the truth yourself, whether to make yourself believe the story more or to finally see that the whole prefabed official report stinks along with these criminals who are trying to cover it up.
You can't get anymore busted for a flat out pile of bullshit than Bush does here.
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Quote Originally Posted by kaponofor3:
"President Bush, in a townhall type setting, said... He was standing outside the classroom waiting to go inside and see the children when he saw on TV the FIRSTplane hit the towers and he thought to himself "what a terrible pilot... it must have been an accident" (This is on video...ANYWHERE)"
Provide a link?
I don't know where you stand but I do recommend you start looking for the truth yourself, whether to make yourself believe the story more or to finally see that the whole prefabed official report stinks along with these criminals who are trying to cover it up.
"President Bush, in a townhall type setting, said... He was standing outside the classroom waiting to go inside and see the children when he saw on TV the FIRSTplane hit the towers and he thought to himself "what a terrible pilot... it must have been an accident" (This is on video...ANYWHERE)"
Provide a link?
I don't know where you stand but I do recommend you start looking for the truth yourself, whether to make yourself believe the story more or to finally see that the whole prefabed official report stinks along with these criminals who are trying to cover it up.
You can't get anymore busted for a flat out pile of bullshit than Bush does here.
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Quote Originally Posted by kaponofor3:
"President Bush, in a townhall type setting, said... He was standing outside the classroom waiting to go inside and see the children when he saw on TV the FIRSTplane hit the towers and he thought to himself "what a terrible pilot... it must have been an accident" (This is on video...ANYWHERE)"
Provide a link?
I don't know where you stand but I do recommend you start looking for the truth yourself, whether to make yourself believe the story more or to finally see that the whole prefabed official report stinks along with these criminals who are trying to cover it up.
President Bush, in a townhall type setting, said... He was standing outside the classroom waiting to go inside and see the children when he saw on TV the FIRSTplane hit the towers and he thought to himself "what a terrible pilot... it must have been an accident" (This is on video...ANYWHERE)
But NO ONE had video of the first plane hitting the towers.
It was not until Bush was seated in the classroom when he was told by the secret service that plane # 2 hit the towers. Which was the official time that he was informed of the attacks.
HOW IS THAT FOR YA...?
You take the ball and run with it.
This is a longer version and explained the BUSH LIE in more detail.
President Bush, in a townhall type setting, said... He was standing outside the classroom waiting to go inside and see the children when he saw on TV the FIRSTplane hit the towers and he thought to himself "what a terrible pilot... it must have been an accident" (This is on video...ANYWHERE)
But NO ONE had video of the first plane hitting the towers.
It was not until Bush was seated in the classroom when he was told by the secret service that plane # 2 hit the towers. Which was the official time that he was informed of the attacks.
HOW IS THAT FOR YA...?
You take the ball and run with it.
This is a longer version and explained the BUSH LIE in more detail.
Sounds like he was probably just lying... that does not a conspiracy make in my mind. We've caught people and politicians in lies plenty of times. They are politicians. Its what they do.
I hope everyone who is searching for "truth" -- whatever that means to you -- finds it.
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Sounds like he was probably just lying... that does not a conspiracy make in my mind. We've caught people and politicians in lies plenty of times. They are politicians. Its what they do.
I hope everyone who is searching for "truth" -- whatever that means to you -- finds it.
I have spent nearly this entire thread answering every single one of your questions. I think we both agree, I have answered them all. Have I given you the answers that you're looking for? No, I have not. You don't like my answers, and I don't like yours. That's fine with me, I'll simply agree to disagree, which is our right in this country.
I do have 1 question for you though, since I've hardly asked you any so far in this thread.
In this video, there are over 2 dozen witnesses that saw a Boeing 757 aircraft heading towards the Pentagon on 9/11/2001. The problem with the previous sentence is that the plane they saw was not taking an approach that was consistent with the damage to the building itself, as well as the damage and debris field observed by the downed light poles.
My question is: Do you believe the plane which was seen by Ed Paik, Terry Morin, Robert Turcious, Chad Brooks (Pentagon Employee), William Laggasse (Pentagon Employee), William Middleton, Darrell Stafford, Darious Prather, Donald Carter, Sean Boger, and Roosevelt Roberts was indeed Flight 77?
Your answer must be yes or no. Why must it be yes or no? Because the FAA says there were no other flights in the vicinity of the Pentagon at the time of the alleged crash.
If your answer is yes, then how could a plane taking a Northern Approach (North of Citgo gas station, North of Columbia Pike, and directly over the Navy Annex building) could have possibly caused the highly specific damage to the Pentagon and debris field (i.e. downed light poles)?
If you're answer is no, then what other plane could they have possibly seen, considering the FAA reports no others planes were in the area?
I know you'll attempt to evade the question as much as possible. Keep in mind I've answered every one of your questions thus far. I would appreciate you watch the video, and also answer mine.
Thanks
You're a liar. You haven't even come close to answering all my questions.....yet you expect me to watch a 2 bit video for an hour that has an agenda?
I have read testimony of people who were covered with jet fuel. I believe them. I've seen verified pictures of plane parts...engines....landing gear......wheels. I believe it. I've read testimony from INVESTIGATORS who verified body parts....and uniforms. I believe them.
You believe the same thing as the Loose Change people do. And that video has been shown to have over FOUR HUNDRED errors...including flat out lies....mis-representations......half assed research. You name it.
If that's the team you want to go to battle with, I can't help you.
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Quote Originally Posted by smdio:
This questions goes out to HutchEmAll
I have spent nearly this entire thread answering every single one of your questions. I think we both agree, I have answered them all. Have I given you the answers that you're looking for? No, I have not. You don't like my answers, and I don't like yours. That's fine with me, I'll simply agree to disagree, which is our right in this country.
I do have 1 question for you though, since I've hardly asked you any so far in this thread.
In this video, there are over 2 dozen witnesses that saw a Boeing 757 aircraft heading towards the Pentagon on 9/11/2001. The problem with the previous sentence is that the plane they saw was not taking an approach that was consistent with the damage to the building itself, as well as the damage and debris field observed by the downed light poles.
My question is: Do you believe the plane which was seen by Ed Paik, Terry Morin, Robert Turcious, Chad Brooks (Pentagon Employee), William Laggasse (Pentagon Employee), William Middleton, Darrell Stafford, Darious Prather, Donald Carter, Sean Boger, and Roosevelt Roberts was indeed Flight 77?
Your answer must be yes or no. Why must it be yes or no? Because the FAA says there were no other flights in the vicinity of the Pentagon at the time of the alleged crash.
If your answer is yes, then how could a plane taking a Northern Approach (North of Citgo gas station, North of Columbia Pike, and directly over the Navy Annex building) could have possibly caused the highly specific damage to the Pentagon and debris field (i.e. downed light poles)?
If you're answer is no, then what other plane could they have possibly seen, considering the FAA reports no others planes were in the area?
I know you'll attempt to evade the question as much as possible. Keep in mind I've answered every one of your questions thus far. I would appreciate you watch the video, and also answer mine.
Thanks
You're a liar. You haven't even come close to answering all my questions.....yet you expect me to watch a 2 bit video for an hour that has an agenda?
I have read testimony of people who were covered with jet fuel. I believe them. I've seen verified pictures of plane parts...engines....landing gear......wheels. I believe it. I've read testimony from INVESTIGATORS who verified body parts....and uniforms. I believe them.
You believe the same thing as the Loose Change people do. And that video has been shown to have over FOUR HUNDRED errors...including flat out lies....mis-representations......half assed research. You name it.
If that's the team you want to go to battle with, I can't help you.
Hutch -- what is it that you think causes people to psychologically have a need for their to be a conspiracy or a far more complicated explanation than "these dickhead hijackers who follow a radical brand of religion crashed their hijacked planes"?
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Hutch -- what is it that you think causes people to psychologically have a need for their to be a conspiracy or a far more complicated explanation than "these dickhead hijackers who follow a radical brand of religion crashed their hijacked planes"?
So, your suggestion is that the President, who was informed of the attack while in a room full of 2nd graders, then whisked by the secret service away while watching news of the carnage, then addressed the nation that evening, then made a decision to send troops to Afghanistan couldn't possibly have been mistaken as to whether he knew about the 1st plane from a video or from the secret service?
Seriously, think about it. Everyone thought the first plane was an accident. I imagine that morning was a bit more of a windwhirl for him than most. He is certainly entitled to have made mistakes that any other reasonable person may have also made under such circumstances. It does not a conspiracy make.
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Quote Originally Posted by Skubishack:
This is a longer version and explained the BUSH LIE in more detail.
So, your suggestion is that the President, who was informed of the attack while in a room full of 2nd graders, then whisked by the secret service away while watching news of the carnage, then addressed the nation that evening, then made a decision to send troops to Afghanistan couldn't possibly have been mistaken as to whether he knew about the 1st plane from a video or from the secret service?
Seriously, think about it. Everyone thought the first plane was an accident. I imagine that morning was a bit more of a windwhirl for him than most. He is certainly entitled to have made mistakes that any other reasonable person may have also made under such circumstances. It does not a conspiracy make.
Hutch -- what is it that you think causes people to psychologically have a need for their to be a conspiracy or a far more complicated explanation than "these dickhead hijackers who follow a radical brand of religion crashed their hijacked planes"?
kp3-
This is one for the ages. I actually have been exchanging e-mails with Dylan Avery....and I just got off the phone with him. He is the primary "Loose Change" creator. I am now convinced more then ever that he is a kook....and a fraud.
If anyone cares about this debate, then they will read this. It will be a bit long, but I can't help it. If people don't believe I talked to this guy, then e-mail him. You can find it on-line....or I can give it to you. He is passionate, but he's a fraud. He will tell you different, but these are the exchanges we had:
I started out by mentioning the 426 flubs on Loose Change 2. His response: "A lot has happened since then."
We got into a discussion about flight 93 and here is a quote he sent me:
"We can't imagine that passengers were able to get a cart out of its locked berth and push it down the single aisle and jam it into the cockpit with four strong, violent men behind the door," said Ms. Homer. She believes that the victims' family members who broke a confidentiality agreement and gave their interpretation of sounds they'd heard on the cockpit tape misinterpreted the shattering of china. "When a plane goes erratic, china falls."
Sandy Dahl– Wife ofJason Dahl, Pilot of United Airlines Flight 93. Flight Attendant for over 20 years.
I asked him if she was qualified (from an engineering standpoint) to make such an assertion. His answer was that she was the wife of a pilot on flight 93.
I asked him about this quote:
Parker was soaked with jet fuel that made her legs feel on fire. Her skin eventually healed without grafts. Yet her other injuries -- neck, back, shoulder, head -- proved more tenacious. They left her with significant memory lapses. She had to relearn how to use her keyboard. She stumbled through the steps of forwarding a telephone call.
This from a victim at the pentagon. He never responded.
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Quote Originally Posted by kaponofor3:
Hutch -- what is it that you think causes people to psychologically have a need for their to be a conspiracy or a far more complicated explanation than "these dickhead hijackers who follow a radical brand of religion crashed their hijacked planes"?
kp3-
This is one for the ages. I actually have been exchanging e-mails with Dylan Avery....and I just got off the phone with him. He is the primary "Loose Change" creator. I am now convinced more then ever that he is a kook....and a fraud.
If anyone cares about this debate, then they will read this. It will be a bit long, but I can't help it. If people don't believe I talked to this guy, then e-mail him. You can find it on-line....or I can give it to you. He is passionate, but he's a fraud. He will tell you different, but these are the exchanges we had:
I started out by mentioning the 426 flubs on Loose Change 2. His response: "A lot has happened since then."
We got into a discussion about flight 93 and here is a quote he sent me:
"We can't imagine that passengers were able to get a cart out of its locked berth and push it down the single aisle and jam it into the cockpit with four strong, violent men behind the door," said Ms. Homer. She believes that the victims' family members who broke a confidentiality agreement and gave their interpretation of sounds they'd heard on the cockpit tape misinterpreted the shattering of china. "When a plane goes erratic, china falls."
Sandy Dahl– Wife ofJason Dahl, Pilot of United Airlines Flight 93. Flight Attendant for over 20 years.
I asked him if she was qualified (from an engineering standpoint) to make such an assertion. His answer was that she was the wife of a pilot on flight 93.
I asked him about this quote:
Parker was soaked with jet fuel that made her legs feel on fire. Her skin eventually healed without grafts. Yet her other injuries -- neck, back, shoulder, head -- proved more tenacious. They left her with significant memory lapses. She had to relearn how to use her keyboard. She stumbled through the steps of forwarding a telephone call.
This from a victim at the pentagon. He never responded.
I asked him to provide me with a quote from one person who was a relative of a person who died on flight 93 or flight 77 who thought it was an inside job.
He sent me a quote from a next door neighbor from one of the people who died who requested one of their videos. That's it.
I asked him if he thinks Flight 93 crashed in PA and if Flight 77 crashed into the pentagon.
His response: "I don't talk about flight 93 and flight 77 anymore." And that is a direct quote....you can ask him.
LMAO. Why do you think that is? Because he has been getting his ass kicked by the victims' relatives and he has no leg to stand on.
I asked him where the people are who died on these two flights. No answer.
I said, "'Loose Change 2' has been shown to contain over 400 errors......how come you never responded to those questions?"
His response: "A lot have changed since then."
He told me that he no longer talks about flight 93 and flight 77.....he is focusing on his belief that there were problems with the 9/11 commission investigation.
The old bait and switch.
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Continuing (trying to make this short):
I asked him to provide me with a quote from one person who was a relative of a person who died on flight 93 or flight 77 who thought it was an inside job.
He sent me a quote from a next door neighbor from one of the people who died who requested one of their videos. That's it.
I asked him if he thinks Flight 93 crashed in PA and if Flight 77 crashed into the pentagon.
His response: "I don't talk about flight 93 and flight 77 anymore." And that is a direct quote....you can ask him.
LMAO. Why do you think that is? Because he has been getting his ass kicked by the victims' relatives and he has no leg to stand on.
I asked him where the people are who died on these two flights. No answer.
I said, "'Loose Change 2' has been shown to contain over 400 errors......how come you never responded to those questions?"
His response: "A lot have changed since then."
He told me that he no longer talks about flight 93 and flight 77.....he is focusing on his belief that there were problems with the 9/11 commission investigation.
I asked him to provide me with a quote from one person who was a relative of a person who died on flight 93 or flight 77 who thought it was an inside job.
He sent me a quote from a next door neighbor from one of the people who died who requested one of their videos. That's it.
I asked him if he thinks Flight 93 crashed in PA and if Flight 77 crashed into the pentagon.
His response: "I don't talk about flight 93 and flight 77 anymore." And that is a direct quote....you can ask him.
LMAO. Why do you think that is? Because he has been getting his ass kicked by the victims' relatives and he has no leg to stand on.
I asked him where the people are who died on these two flights. No answer.
I said, "'Loose Change 2' has been shown to contain over 400 errors......how come you never responded to those questions?"
His response: "A lot have changed since then."
He told me that he no longer talks about flight 93 and flight 77.....he is focusing on his belief that there were problems with the 9/11 commission investigation.
The old bait and switch.
Intellectual dishonesty and lack of facts (other than other ridiculously slanted and biased 9/11 truther sites) from the head 9/11 truther himself? Who would have thought.
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Quote Originally Posted by HutchEmAll:
Continuing (trying to make this short):
I asked him to provide me with a quote from one person who was a relative of a person who died on flight 93 or flight 77 who thought it was an inside job.
He sent me a quote from a next door neighbor from one of the people who died who requested one of their videos. That's it.
I asked him if he thinks Flight 93 crashed in PA and if Flight 77 crashed into the pentagon.
His response: "I don't talk about flight 93 and flight 77 anymore." And that is a direct quote....you can ask him.
LMAO. Why do you think that is? Because he has been getting his ass kicked by the victims' relatives and he has no leg to stand on.
I asked him where the people are who died on these two flights. No answer.
I said, "'Loose Change 2' has been shown to contain over 400 errors......how come you never responded to those questions?"
His response: "A lot have changed since then."
He told me that he no longer talks about flight 93 and flight 77.....he is focusing on his belief that there were problems with the 9/11 commission investigation.
The old bait and switch.
Intellectual dishonesty and lack of facts (other than other ridiculously slanted and biased 9/11 truther sites) from the head 9/11 truther himself? Who would have thought.
This is a guy who said flight 93 never crashed in PA and flight 77 never hit the pentagon.....and now he won't talk about it. How rich is that?
I asked for evidence, and here is what I got:
"The difference between you and me, Craig, is I've actually MET these people"
Fantastic. Here is another: "It matters because I've had to listen to hundreds of people tell me about the pain they're still going through and the closure they did NOT receive."
No evidence again.
Then he throws this out: "There's family members that want a proper investigation and never got it. That's the bottom line. I don't talk about missiles at the Pentagon or whether or not Flight 93 landed at Cleveland anymore."
So I ask him, "So you were completely wrong in earlier and now you're 100% right?"
No answer.
And lastly, we have this: "And you're an asshole with a closed mind and zero sympathy for 9/11 family members."
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Continuing:
This is a guy who said flight 93 never crashed in PA and flight 77 never hit the pentagon.....and now he won't talk about it. How rich is that?
I asked for evidence, and here is what I got:
"The difference between you and me, Craig, is I've actually MET these people"
Fantastic. Here is another: "It matters because I've had to listen to hundreds of people tell me about the pain they're still going through and the closure they did NOT receive."
No evidence again.
Then he throws this out: "There's family members that want a proper investigation and never got it. That's the bottom line. I don't talk about missiles at the Pentagon or whether or not Flight 93 landed at Cleveland anymore."
So I ask him, "So you were completely wrong in earlier and now you're 100% right?"
No answer.
And lastly, we have this: "And you're an asshole with a closed mind and zero sympathy for 9/11 family members."
As for these nuts, I'm not sure. Just personalities that defy logic. I was a chemistry major for 2.5 years....so I think I have a bit of objectivity. I think our government is as crooked as the day is long, but I can't ignore the facts.
Talk to this guy, people. And make him be accountable.
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kp3-
As for these nuts, I'm not sure. Just personalities that defy logic. I was a chemistry major for 2.5 years....so I think I have a bit of objectivity. I think our government is as crooked as the day is long, but I can't ignore the facts.
Talk to this guy, people. And make him be accountable.
I find it quite interesting that the CT's often ask for mony so they can send you their "proof." The true investigators.....the ones who believe in facts.....do it on their own dime. Leads me to wonder who cares more about the truth.
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The UFO question
Government mind control programs
I find it quite interesting that the CT's often ask for mony so they can send you their "proof." The true investigators.....the ones who believe in facts.....do it on their own dime. Leads me to wonder who cares more about the truth.
I find it hilarious. Not one lawyer has taken on this case for one of the victims' relatives. I would think an amulance chaser would jump at the chance pro-bono for the pub. if they thought they had ghost of a chance.
And once again, not one comment on why the guy who spearheaded the conspiracy movement now won't even talk about flight 93 or flight 77. Why is that?
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Quote Originally Posted by Skubishack:
If you would like to hear from some family members of the 9/11 victims you might wanna watch this video.
I hope that someday they get their FULL investigation.
I find it hilarious. Not one lawyer has taken on this case for one of the victims' relatives. I would think an amulance chaser would jump at the chance pro-bono for the pub. if they thought they had ghost of a chance.
And once again, not one comment on why the guy who spearheaded the conspiracy movement now won't even talk about flight 93 or flight 77. Why is that?
Oh, and smdio did PM me for those of you who were wondering regarding his lawsuit for treason against the government. I got some more details, and I don't think that smdio really understands what he is talking about to be honest. He still thinks that criminal charges will be brought against Cheney and his cronies by private litigants. He refused to tell me the names of his attorneys, just that they are "well known" and I will be "hearing about it soon"
I also told him that even if we disagree, I don't like seeing people being taken advantage of, and that whoever is telling him he can do this and get this lawsuit in front of a judge is a liar, a thief, stealing his money, and giving my profession a bad name.
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Oh, and smdio did PM me for those of you who were wondering regarding his lawsuit for treason against the government. I got some more details, and I don't think that smdio really understands what he is talking about to be honest. He still thinks that criminal charges will be brought against Cheney and his cronies by private litigants. He refused to tell me the names of his attorneys, just that they are "well known" and I will be "hearing about it soon"
I also told him that even if we disagree, I don't like seeing people being taken advantage of, and that whoever is telling him he can do this and get this lawsuit in front of a judge is a liar, a thief, stealing his money, and giving my profession a bad name.
Not sure what your point is here. Had the victims families video been on a porn site I would have posted a link to that so you could watch the victims families video and hear their opinions on 9/11.
The link I posted in the only one I know of that shows the entire victims families video is full length and high quality.
So what exactly is your point regarding the VICTIMS FAMILIES VIDEO that I posted the link to?
I did not include a ringing endoresement for the site that provides the video to watch... just a suggestion that IF YOU wanted to hear from some of the victims families you might wanna watch their video.
Was that too unclear for you??? Or are you following your own plan to try and say I'm saying something I have not???
Not sure what your point is here. Had the victims families video been on a porn site I would have posted a link to that so you could watch the victims families video and hear their opinions on 9/11.
The link I posted in the only one I know of that shows the entire victims families video is full length and high quality.
So what exactly is your point regarding the VICTIMS FAMILIES VIDEO that I posted the link to?
I did not include a ringing endoresement for the site that provides the video to watch... just a suggestion that IF YOU wanted to hear from some of the victims families you might wanna watch their video.
Was that too unclear for you??? Or are you following your own plan to try and say I'm saying something I have not???
I find it hilarious. Not one lawyer has taken on this case for one of the victims' relatives. I would think an amulance chaser would jump at the chance pro-bono for the pub. if they thought they had ghost of a chance.
And once again, not one comment on why the guy who spearheaded the conspiracy movement now won't even talk about flight 93 or flight 77. Why is that?
Wow... to find anything hilarious about the suffering of these families is quite shocking. These family members pursued the truth through official channels by requesting the government do what would and should be expected of an honest government.
Personally I see no need for a lawyer to be requested by the families. What they tried to do was the correct way of dealing with this. Simply ask the government for the honest truth and if needed hold a formal investigation to find that truth.
What could a lawyer do better than these family members??? Were lawyers needed to investigate Nixon or Clinton??? Maybe you could help me there because I don't think private lawyers were involved... do you???
And as for ... "And once again, not one comment on why the guy who spearheaded the conspiracy movement now won't even talk about flight 93 or flight 77. Why is that?"
What does this have to do with me??? Have you ever heard me give him my personal endorsement???
I stand behind those seeking honest answers to honest questions and those who have compiled hard facts which raise even more questions. As I stated before... My only wish is for an honest indepth investigation no matter what kind of Pandora's Box it would open. I also feel that the investigation should NOT be limited in time to find the answers needed.
I would like the truth... no matter how much it bleeds because sometimes you gotta get cut to remove or fix the problem. It's those who stonewall the truth that are worried because they will bleed the most.
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Quote Originally Posted by HutchEmAll:
I find it hilarious. Not one lawyer has taken on this case for one of the victims' relatives. I would think an amulance chaser would jump at the chance pro-bono for the pub. if they thought they had ghost of a chance.
And once again, not one comment on why the guy who spearheaded the conspiracy movement now won't even talk about flight 93 or flight 77. Why is that?
Wow... to find anything hilarious about the suffering of these families is quite shocking. These family members pursued the truth through official channels by requesting the government do what would and should be expected of an honest government.
Personally I see no need for a lawyer to be requested by the families. What they tried to do was the correct way of dealing with this. Simply ask the government for the honest truth and if needed hold a formal investigation to find that truth.
What could a lawyer do better than these family members??? Were lawyers needed to investigate Nixon or Clinton??? Maybe you could help me there because I don't think private lawyers were involved... do you???
And as for ... "And once again, not one comment on why the guy who spearheaded the conspiracy movement now won't even talk about flight 93 or flight 77. Why is that?"
What does this have to do with me??? Have you ever heard me give him my personal endorsement???
I stand behind those seeking honest answers to honest questions and those who have compiled hard facts which raise even more questions. As I stated before... My only wish is for an honest indepth investigation no matter what kind of Pandora's Box it would open. I also feel that the investigation should NOT be limited in time to find the answers needed.
I would like the truth... no matter how much it bleeds because sometimes you gotta get cut to remove or fix the problem. It's those who stonewall the truth that are worried because they will bleed the most.
Wow... to find anything hilarious about the suffering of these families is quite shocking. These family members pursued the truth through official channels by requesting the government do what would and should be expected of an honest government.
Personally I see no need for a lawyer to be requested by the families. What they tried to do was the correct way of dealing with this. Simply ask the government for the honest truth and if needed hold a formal investigation to find that truth.
What could a lawyer do better than these family members??? Were lawyers needed to investigate Nixon or Clinton??? Maybe you could help me there because I don't think private lawyers were involved... do you???
And as for ... "And once again, not one comment on why the guy who spearheaded the conspiracy movement now won't even talk about flight 93 or flight 77. Why is that?"
What does this have to do with me??? Have you ever heard me give him my personal endorsement???
I stand behind those seeking honest answers to honest questions and those who have compiled hard facts which raise even more questions. As I stated before... My only wish is for an honest indepth investigation no matter what kind of Pandora's Box it would open. I also feel that the investigation should NOT be limited in time to find the answers needed.
I would like the truth... no matter how much it bleeds because sometimes you gotta get cut to remove or fix the problem. It's those who stonewall the truth that are worried because they will bleed the most.
Huh?
Have you heard of Kenneth Starr?
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Quote Originally Posted by Skubishack:
Wow... to find anything hilarious about the suffering of these families is quite shocking. These family members pursued the truth through official channels by requesting the government do what would and should be expected of an honest government.
Personally I see no need for a lawyer to be requested by the families. What they tried to do was the correct way of dealing with this. Simply ask the government for the honest truth and if needed hold a formal investigation to find that truth.
What could a lawyer do better than these family members??? Were lawyers needed to investigate Nixon or Clinton??? Maybe you could help me there because I don't think private lawyers were involved... do you???
And as for ... "And once again, not one comment on why the guy who spearheaded the conspiracy movement now won't even talk about flight 93 or flight 77. Why is that?"
What does this have to do with me??? Have you ever heard me give him my personal endorsement???
I stand behind those seeking honest answers to honest questions and those who have compiled hard facts which raise even more questions. As I stated before... My only wish is for an honest indepth investigation no matter what kind of Pandora's Box it would open. I also feel that the investigation should NOT be limited in time to find the answers needed.
I would like the truth... no matter how much it bleeds because sometimes you gotta get cut to remove or fix the problem. It's those who stonewall the truth that are worried because they will bleed the most.
I just found this link and have not yet watched it.
As for you Hutch... I hope you approve of the video being shown on Goggle Videos or are they also inappropriate for me to be posting here???
Note... I don't know why the # symbol at the end of the link seems to NOT be part of the link. It IS but when I copy and pasted it(several times)... it paste as black and looks seperate. If you have problems just copy and past the entire link into your browser.
I'll watch this later today.
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Here is a link to those family members OTHER video called
" IN THEIR OWN WORDS: THE UNTOLD STORIES OF THE 9/11 FAMILIES "
I just found this link and have not yet watched it.
As for you Hutch... I hope you approve of the video being shown on Goggle Videos or are they also inappropriate for me to be posting here???
Note... I don't know why the # symbol at the end of the link seems to NOT be part of the link. It IS but when I copy and pasted it(several times)... it paste as black and looks seperate. If you have problems just copy and past the entire link into your browser.
Did he get hired by any PRIVATE individuals to pursue a case vs the US government or make any request for investigations of US government actions or US government involvement in some issue by some PRIVATE individuals as you so mockingly suggested the victims families should do???
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Quote Originally Posted by djbrow:
Huh?
Have you heard of Kenneth Starr?
Yes. He was APPOINTED by a panel of judges.
Did he get hired by any PRIVATE individuals to pursue a case vs the US government or make any request for investigations of US government actions or US government involvement in some issue by some PRIVATE individuals as you so mockingly suggested the victims families should do???
Wow... to find anything hilarious about the suffering of these families is quite shocking.
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This is what you and Dylan have in common. You make stuff up. I said I find it hilarious that not one lawyer has taken the case.
You take that and turn it into me thinking the suffering of the families is hilarious. I've never even come close to saying such a thing.
This is a guy who you should be going after....I'm guessing you won't though.
This is what is disgusting. I sent an e-mail telling them I thought so. I'm guessing you won't. But yet I'm the one laughing at the families that are suffering? Hard to believe you could even think that.
"Last night I went to the "9-11 Truth Alliance Meeting" and it was very successful.
I also made good strives on getting the idea of doing a demonstrations @ Theaters over the Fight 93 movie coming out this month.If we play our cards right, and come up with a good slogan, we may just get some air time on local news channels. [sic]
Let’s bite these bastards where it hurts, and have this Fight 93 movie backfire on them."
–"datars," Loose Change Forum Member
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Wow... to find anything hilarious about the suffering of these families is quite shocking.
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This is what you and Dylan have in common. You make stuff up. I said I find it hilarious that not one lawyer has taken the case.
You take that and turn it into me thinking the suffering of the families is hilarious. I've never even come close to saying such a thing.
This is a guy who you should be going after....I'm guessing you won't though.
This is what is disgusting. I sent an e-mail telling them I thought so. I'm guessing you won't. But yet I'm the one laughing at the families that are suffering? Hard to believe you could even think that.
"Last night I went to the "9-11 Truth Alliance Meeting" and it was very successful.
I also made good strives on getting the idea of doing a demonstrations @ Theaters over the Fight 93 movie coming out this month.If we play our cards right, and come up with a good slogan, we may just get some air time on local news channels. [sic]
Let’s bite these bastards where it hurts, and have this Fight 93 movie backfire on them."
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