The question religion can not answer - evolution - Page 3 - General Discussion

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Posted: Jun. 19, 2010 - 8:22 PM ET #51

Quote Originally Posted by OnlyGod:

Well my friend you need to watch https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1091617/ it is actually packed with very intellegent religious people, all who have Phd's doctorates, masters etc. Many of them have lost thier jobs for even remotely suggestion the idea of intelligent design. The scientific atheists are the bullies in all this, they are so close minded to the idea. Also as many of you have stated they have no logical explanation for how life began in the first place.

Of course, that's because the issue has become political in nature. The humanists (far-left wing) have somehow weasled their way into academia and into positions of influence and power, and these people are hellbent (literally) on pushing through their political agenda.

You see the same thing involving the global - warming / climate change debate. (NO! it's proven science they tell us! lol).

These are communists and socialists...people who will stop at nothing to discredit anyone and or any formal institution who believes in something higher than themselves. They believe if they can accomplish that, (ridding the world of religious belief..not going to happen) they will be able to THEN control the minds of the masses ushering in their long-sought world government.

We are fighting EVIL....

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Posted: Jun. 19, 2010 - 10:26 PM ET #52

Quote Originally Posted by RichardA:

You see the same thing involving the global - warming / climate change debate. (NO! it's proven science they tell us! lol).

We are fighting EVIL....

No sir! Dingos that eat people's babies are EVIL. Controlled by Satan himself

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Posted: Jun. 20, 2010 - 12:10 AM ET #53

you are all going to hell

for doubting God!

xgeo

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Posted: Jun. 20, 2010 - 12:17 AM ET #54

time is the key factor in evolution - in the millions of generations - species with favorable traits survive and pass on favorable traits to offspring - little by little - year and year after year after year. Just wrap your mind around the tiny amont of time the person sapien has ruled the earth. Evolution is a FACT. Does is apply to humans ? - yes most likely because it is evident in many other species as seen in the fossil record that can be age dated by the tests of regularly decaying radioactive minerals in rocks that hold the fossils. Yes children the earth is 3.5 billion years old. And the Dinosaurs ruled the earth 65 million years ago. So time is the key to allow for tiny changes over and over again to get to our present state. No need for unproven or unprovable ideas like ID. In life the simpliest explanation is usually correct. Here too.

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Posted: Jun. 20, 2010 - 8:02 AM ET #55

Quote Originally Posted by Baldheadslick:

you are all going to hell

for doubting God!

Amen,

PGram13

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Posted: Jun. 20, 2010 - 8:39 AM ET #56

Quote Originally Posted by jpero:

99% of scientists do not agree with religions about creationism.

The greatest thinkers and founders of our nation also said that religion does more harm than good and it would be best if religions were abolished.

Michael, Iwe can agree to disagree, but what our literary world call " The Greatest Philosophers", which there are only 54, like Plato, Ariistostle His student, and Plato, Kant, Bacon, etcetera, and 40 of them , I PROMISE< believed in CREATIONISM! You can read Socrates and he makes no bones about God! I read a lot, and History, Politics and "Philosophy', is my area! Although I although I started with Biology, still need some credits on the Biology! But no need into get that ! I love that you do not mind to put your thinking cap on, but read Darwins ZDelimma please! And Google Christiqan Philosophers or something, I read it but not on line! Great discussion you have here! Good Job! I fault you not, because sociryt has a way of flooded our minds with what they want you to remember! Have a great day! PG Im gonna Buddy You, if that is OK?

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Posted: Jun. 20, 2010 - 8:45 AM ET #57

Quote Originally Posted by Baldheadslick:

you are all going to hell

for doubting God!

Now Baldhead! That is NOT true! You doubt God, every day! I doubt God, everyone doubts God when they have a negative thought! If you went to hell for "doubting God", Thomas the Apostile would have been ushered away from Jesus not to put his hand in his wound! Worry is DOUBTING GOD! I have a CD I have already listened to, and finished taking notes, and if anyone would like to listen to it, Ill mail it, heck, ya can just mail it to each other , it is about that and is very Good! Its a teaching series by Charles Stanley! LET me know! Peace! PG

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Posted: Jun. 20, 2010 - 10:05 AM ET #58

Quote Originally Posted by tideman:

Amen,

with over a thousand religions and so many hells and gods, can you elaborate and tell me which hell and which God you are referring to?

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Posted: Jun. 20, 2010 - 10:17 AM ET #59

Quote Originally Posted by ad1260:

does anyone else get tired of this ENDLESS DEBATE??

BEST OF HEALTH, HAPPINESS,WEALTH, BLESSINGS and LUCK TO ALL !!

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Posted: Jun. 20, 2010 - 12:37 PM ET #60

Question for the people who believe God created Adam and Eve....

Do you realize if you believe in that theory; that means everyone on earth is an inbred?

God created a man and a woman.... Not multiple men and women.

Dude_Abides

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Posted: Jun. 20, 2010 - 2:09 PM ET #61

Some of you critters are missing a rather large point. A scientist can beleive in God, but that doesn't mean he/she is by definition a Creationist

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Posted: Jun. 20, 2010 - 4:03 PM ET #62

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Quote Originally Posted by BKinNYC:

So who or what made the solar system? Or the oceans? [/Quo

exactly.

This subject is SO BORING already.

Life is extremely complicated. There is no proof that mankind evolved from anything, and even if he did, how do we know that GOD was not behind the evolution of speices. There is no possible way that anything randomly evolves, it's just a too complicated process. Your hand, your eyes, your mouth, male and female, the sun..how can this just EVOLVE?

A: IT CAN'T

The evolution of man is a MIRACLE in itself, but the evolution of thousands of speices in a random fashion is simply impossible.

God is REAL. Make no mistake about that FACT.

Most of the great thinkers and scientists of history believed in creation.

mutations are random. each mutation creates an individual with or without specific qualities and skills. many mutations have negative effects on the individual (think genetic diseases), and prevent the human from reproducing. the people/organisms with good mutations are able to procreate more successfully and eventually the whole population contains the gene for a 'good' mutation.

just because you cannot comprehend the complexity of the situation does not make it impossible.

the thing about science is that it allows itself to be wrong. when confronted with new evidence, one is able to amend their beliefs in a rational manner.

why does god allow little babies to die? do you really believe god has a plan for everybody and that was his plan for said child? is your response going to be 'god works in mysterious ways'?

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Posted: Jun. 20, 2010 - 9:26 PM ET #63

Quote Originally Posted by ad1260:

does anyone else get tired of this ENDLESS DEBATE??

No one makes you read it so GTFO !

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Posted: Jun. 20, 2010 - 9:28 PM ET #64

Quote Originally Posted by RichardA:

You see the same thing involving the global - warming / climate change debate. (NO! it's proven science they tell us! lol).

We are fighting EVIL....

You make a great point, one of satans most powerful tactics is to confuse people from the truth.

FIGHT ! FIGHT ! FIGHT !

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Posted: Jun. 20, 2010 - 11:28 PM ET #65

God- in all his forms,? from Santa to the adult version doesn't exist anywhere in reality or beyond, aside from IN our own minds. I would go so far as to say that Jesus Christ- at least the one as described by in the Gospels, never existed as a part of history. There was a lot of allegorical and symbolic literature back then- fiction. The story of Jesus is neither original nor could it hold up in an unbiased investigation.

Religion is bullshit.

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Posted: Jun. 20, 2010 - 11:35 PM ET #66

of course people evolve.

we are very smart creatures.

we invent many good things.

when we use these good smart inventions, we are evolving.

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Posted: Jun. 20, 2010 - 11:52 PM ET #67

The how the f did the planet get here??

Also, to me if you can't explain how the earth or the galaxies got here then how does anything else make sense?? It's like opening a book and only reading chapter 10 through 20!! How can you draw a conclusion to the story without the basis or foundation being laid out first? Even if you don't believe in Jesus, you have to at least believe in a creator!!

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Posted: Jun. 21, 2010 - 12:01 AM ET #68

And I for sure believe in Jesus!!!

Like mama always said to each their own...But I wouldn't want to be some of you on judgment day!!!

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Posted: Jun. 21, 2010 - 12:25 AM ET #69

Quote Originally Posted by jtoms23:

And I for sure believe in Jesus!!!

Like mama always said to each their own...But I wouldn't want to be some of you on judgment day!!!

You don't believe in his words though. You're in no position to think YOU are better than me which is what you're saying "I don't want to be you= I want to be me cos I am better"

"Let he who is without sin cast the first stone"

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Posted: Jun. 21, 2010 - 12:29 AM ET #70

Quote Originally Posted by jtoms23:

And I for sure believe in Jesus!!!

Like mama always said to each their own...But I wouldn't want to be some of you on judgment day!!!

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Posted: Jun. 21, 2010 - 1:43 AM ET #71

Quote Originally Posted by jtoms23:

The how the f did the planet get here??

Also, to me if you can't explain how the earth or the galaxies got here then how does anything else make sense?? It's like opening a book and only reading chapter 10 through 20!! How can you draw a conclusion to the story without the basis or foundation being laid out first? Even if you don't believe in Jesus, you have to at least believe in a creator!!

how the f did god get here?

we are only aware of chapters 10-20. if it makes the book more interesting to make up chapters one through nine, go right ahead. but it is still just a story you made up. nobody knows.

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Posted: Jun. 21, 2010 - 1:52 AM ET #72

our evolution in science has started a large scale movement away from religion.....religion is big business.....one of the biggest money makers in any economy....does anyone think our economy can survive the fruads of religion being exposed to even a greater degree than they have in the past twenty years.....i fear religous people the most in society for what they could do to an economy and for what they do to society mentally.....

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Posted: Jun. 21, 2010 - 11:11 AM ET #73

God = Energy...

Before we used scientific methods to explain the world around us, we used religion. No one had any idea that we were made up of smaller particles which then were made up of even smaller particles, it was too much to fathom in the early generations.

Now that we can observe, test, and recreate energy in labs; we can disprove God.

When the bible says God created us, we are created by and through energy. When the bible says God is in all of us, energy is in fact what it is talking about.

It was simply too complicated for our early ancestors to understand, so they made sense the best way they could. Nonetheless, eventually, everything we hold as fact today will be disproven or built upon. Knowledge is not concrete, it is ever changing. Religion needs to follow science's attitude and accept when it is wrong instead of just elongating the lie.

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Posted: Jun. 21, 2010 - 11:11 AM ET #74

[Quote: Originally Posted by OnlyGod]

Like I stated in my first post, it takes more faith to believe that a random event happened, and EVERYTHING perfectly fell into a position where we <man> were evolved from anything, that it does to believe in God! God is real, and I wish I could get to you unbelievers! s one guy said He wish the God stuff was real! Well, Buddy Ill pray that you, and the rest read the Bible! The New Testement! I read all of it but now just use the Old Testement for the prophetic part! God is real, and I thought I made a great point with Darwins Dilemma! But ONLY GOD is right on with his comments! But this subject has been and will bne at the forefront of discussion for as long as this world is around! Great Discussion guys! PG