Quote Originally Posted by Rush51: We keep hearing a lot from everyone about what the true mortality rate (or death rate) is of this virus. Understandably, many people may show no symptoms but are carriers of the disease, thus they are never counted... Omitting these individuals from the pool increases the mortality rate because they are not counted.. What concerns me are the healthy doctors/nurses that die from the disease trying to help others. Would this be news any other year when we talk about the seasonal flu ? To me, it does seem to be more lethal, and we already know that it is more contagious than the season flu. That is not a good combination. With the Chinese Communist Party hiding the true death tally in their country, we will never know the true fatality rate...they refuse to include up to the 21 million uncounted deaths since February
Unfortunately, we have so many cases and deaths here in this country and throughout Europe that we can better grasp of the "fatality rate." The sample size is quite large, now. But your point on total deaths is spot on. These pricks in China will hide this information
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Quote Originally Posted by packersbackers:
Quote Originally Posted by Rush51: We keep hearing a lot from everyone about what the true mortality rate (or death rate) is of this virus. Understandably, many people may show no symptoms but are carriers of the disease, thus they are never counted... Omitting these individuals from the pool increases the mortality rate because they are not counted.. What concerns me are the healthy doctors/nurses that die from the disease trying to help others. Would this be news any other year when we talk about the seasonal flu ? To me, it does seem to be more lethal, and we already know that it is more contagious than the season flu. That is not a good combination. With the Chinese Communist Party hiding the true death tally in their country, we will never know the true fatality rate...they refuse to include up to the 21 million uncounted deaths since February
Unfortunately, we have so many cases and deaths here in this country and throughout Europe that we can better grasp of the "fatality rate." The sample size is quite large, now. But your point on total deaths is spot on. These pricks in China will hide this information
Just an outsider hear to your north but it does seem to me your leadership is really dropping the ball on this one.
Do you realize that USA has 10x the population of Canada even though you are geographically larger? And that New York airports have the largest percentage of international flights in the world? Much easier to manage an undesirable rural country than one where everyone wants to come to. Sure we have the resources to fix this, but it will take time.
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Quote Originally Posted by Bigjohn76:
Just an outsider hear to your north but it does seem to me your leadership is really dropping the ball on this one.
Do you realize that USA has 10x the population of Canada even though you are geographically larger? And that New York airports have the largest percentage of international flights in the world? Much easier to manage an undesirable rural country than one where everyone wants to come to. Sure we have the resources to fix this, but it will take time.
Toronto is a good comp to New York if you compare per capita...we are doing far better than even the local experts predicted early on...Canadians tend to be more proactive, Americans like to shoot their guns in a more reactive instinct. (Although we have our own issues now with gangs smuggling guns from USA far too easily)
Victory Belongs to the Most Tenacious
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Toronto is a good comp to New York if you compare per capita...we are doing far better than even the local experts predicted early on...Canadians tend to be more proactive, Americans like to shoot their guns in a more reactive instinct. (Although we have our own issues now with gangs smuggling guns from USA far too easily)
Quote Originally Posted by BuckFalls: Quote Originally Posted by Raiderpug: Quote Originally Posted by BuckFalls: Raider your wasting your time.You will never get a idiot,to admit they are a idiot.It just never happens. It’s funny how they resort to calling people names, just like their dear leader! They also didn’t realize vaccines hurting kids was something Trump promoted, not what I said.I got no problems with the names(from people on covers),i do it to when its deserved(hence the idiot statement).But from the president,it just shows his pre-puberty mentality,he thinks he's mr. tough guy.Did you hear what he said last night about how he wont call the govs of Michigan and Washington,cause they are not nice to him(aka-not kissing his a**).The president of the United States dont care enough to make a call about people in 2 of his states,cause their governors wont say he is doing a great job.He is like a teenage little girl throwing a hissy fit,if someone doesnt agree with them,i guess thats how you get,when you've cried(and sued)and (ran from a war,with bone spurs),everytime things dont go your way.Its ALWAYS someone else's fault,or someone is always picking on poor wittle donnie.Like when the reporter asked him if he takes responsibility for when they closed the epidemic disease agency."No i dont take responsibilty for it,hey Tony do you know anything about who closed that department"? So it would make you feel better if Trump took responsibility for the virus? "I am Donald Trump, and I take responsibility for this virus that is from China but is my fault". Does that make you feel good?
With resignation, Yes!
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Quote Originally Posted by Phillip2002:
Quote Originally Posted by BuckFalls: Quote Originally Posted by Raiderpug: Quote Originally Posted by BuckFalls: Raider your wasting your time.You will never get a idiot,to admit they are a idiot.It just never happens. It’s funny how they resort to calling people names, just like their dear leader! They also didn’t realize vaccines hurting kids was something Trump promoted, not what I said.I got no problems with the names(from people on covers),i do it to when its deserved(hence the idiot statement).But from the president,it just shows his pre-puberty mentality,he thinks he's mr. tough guy.Did you hear what he said last night about how he wont call the govs of Michigan and Washington,cause they are not nice to him(aka-not kissing his a**).The president of the United States dont care enough to make a call about people in 2 of his states,cause their governors wont say he is doing a great job.He is like a teenage little girl throwing a hissy fit,if someone doesnt agree with them,i guess thats how you get,when you've cried(and sued)and (ran from a war,with bone spurs),everytime things dont go your way.Its ALWAYS someone else's fault,or someone is always picking on poor wittle donnie.Like when the reporter asked him if he takes responsibility for when they closed the epidemic disease agency."No i dont take responsibilty for it,hey Tony do you know anything about who closed that department"? So it would make you feel better if Trump took responsibility for the virus? "I am Donald Trump, and I take responsibility for this virus that is from China but is my fault". Does that make you feel good?
Quote Originally Posted by Phillip2002: Quote Originally Posted by BuckFalls: Quote Originally Posted by Raiderpug: Quote Originally Posted by BuckFalls: Raider your wasting your time.You will never get a idiot,to admit they are a idiot.It just never happens. It’s funny how they resort to calling people names, just like their dear leader! They also didn’t realize vaccines hurting kids was something Trump promoted, not what I said.I got no problems with the names(from people on covers),i do it to when its deserved(hence the idiot statement).But from the president,it just shows his pre-puberty mentality,he thinks he's mr. tough guy.Did you hear what he said last night about how he wont call the govs of Michigan and Washington,cause they are not nice to him(aka-not kissing his a**).The president of the United States dont care enough to make a call about people in 2 of his states,cause their governors wont say he is doing a great job.He is like a teenage little girl throwing a hissy fit,if someone doesnt agree with them,i guess thats how you get,when you've cried(and sued)and (ran from a war,with bone spurs),everytime things dont go your way.Its ALWAYS someone else's fault,or someone is always picking on poor wittle donnie.Like when the reporter asked him if he takes responsibility for when they closed the epidemic disease agency."No i dont take responsibilty for it,hey Tony do you know anything about who closed that department"? So it would make you feel better if Trump took responsibility for the virus? "I am Donald Trump, and I take responsibility for this virus that is from China but is my fault". Does that make you feel good? With resignation, Yes!
Of course it would, you are a low life who needs someone to always blame for your problems. Classic.
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Quote Originally Posted by Raiderpug:
Quote Originally Posted by Phillip2002: Quote Originally Posted by BuckFalls: Quote Originally Posted by Raiderpug: Quote Originally Posted by BuckFalls: Raider your wasting your time.You will never get a idiot,to admit they are a idiot.It just never happens. It’s funny how they resort to calling people names, just like their dear leader! They also didn’t realize vaccines hurting kids was something Trump promoted, not what I said.I got no problems with the names(from people on covers),i do it to when its deserved(hence the idiot statement).But from the president,it just shows his pre-puberty mentality,he thinks he's mr. tough guy.Did you hear what he said last night about how he wont call the govs of Michigan and Washington,cause they are not nice to him(aka-not kissing his a**).The president of the United States dont care enough to make a call about people in 2 of his states,cause their governors wont say he is doing a great job.He is like a teenage little girl throwing a hissy fit,if someone doesnt agree with them,i guess thats how you get,when you've cried(and sued)and (ran from a war,with bone spurs),everytime things dont go your way.Its ALWAYS someone else's fault,or someone is always picking on poor wittle donnie.Like when the reporter asked him if he takes responsibility for when they closed the epidemic disease agency."No i dont take responsibilty for it,hey Tony do you know anything about who closed that department"? So it would make you feel better if Trump took responsibility for the virus? "I am Donald Trump, and I take responsibility for this virus that is from China but is my fault". Does that make you feel good? With resignation, Yes!
Of course it would, you are a low life who needs someone to always blame for your problems. Classic.
Quote Originally Posted by Raiderpug: Quote Originally Posted by Phillip2002: Quote Originally Posted by BuckFalls: Quote Originally Posted by Raiderpug: Quote Originally Posted by BuckFalls: Raider your wasting your time.You will never get a idiot,to admit they are a idiot.It just never happens. It’s funny how they resort to calling people names, just like their dear leader! They also didn’t realize vaccines hurting kids was something Trump promoted, not what I said.I got no problems with the names(from people on covers),i do it to when its deserved(hence the idiot statement).But from the president,it just shows his pre-puberty mentality,he thinks he's mr. tough guy.Did you hear what he said last night about how he wont call the govs of Michigan and Washington,cause they are not nice to him(aka-not kissing his a**).The president of the United States dont care enough to make a call about people in 2 of his states,cause their governors wont say he is doing a great job.He is like a teenage little girl throwing a hissy fit,if someone doesnt agree with them,i guess thats how you get,when you've cried(and sued)and (ran from a war,with bone spurs),everytime things dont go your way.Its ALWAYS someone else's fault,or someone is always picking on poor wittle donnie.Like when the reporter asked him if he takes responsibility for when they closed the epidemic disease agency."No i dont take responsibilty for it,hey Tony do you know anything about who closed that department"? So it would make you feel better if Trump took responsibility for the virus? "I am Donald Trump, and I take responsibility for this virus that is from China but is my fault". Does that make you feel good? With resignation, Yes! Of course it would, you are a low life who needs someone to always blame for your problems. Classic.
The definition of a despicable human being: While thousands of people are dying you brag(lie) about your popularity on Facebook.
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Quote Originally Posted by Phillip2002:
Quote Originally Posted by Raiderpug: Quote Originally Posted by Phillip2002: Quote Originally Posted by BuckFalls: Quote Originally Posted by Raiderpug: Quote Originally Posted by BuckFalls: Raider your wasting your time.You will never get a idiot,to admit they are a idiot.It just never happens. It’s funny how they resort to calling people names, just like their dear leader! They also didn’t realize vaccines hurting kids was something Trump promoted, not what I said.I got no problems with the names(from people on covers),i do it to when its deserved(hence the idiot statement).But from the president,it just shows his pre-puberty mentality,he thinks he's mr. tough guy.Did you hear what he said last night about how he wont call the govs of Michigan and Washington,cause they are not nice to him(aka-not kissing his a**).The president of the United States dont care enough to make a call about people in 2 of his states,cause their governors wont say he is doing a great job.He is like a teenage little girl throwing a hissy fit,if someone doesnt agree with them,i guess thats how you get,when you've cried(and sued)and (ran from a war,with bone spurs),everytime things dont go your way.Its ALWAYS someone else's fault,or someone is always picking on poor wittle donnie.Like when the reporter asked him if he takes responsibility for when they closed the epidemic disease agency."No i dont take responsibilty for it,hey Tony do you know anything about who closed that department"? So it would make you feel better if Trump took responsibility for the virus? "I am Donald Trump, and I take responsibility for this virus that is from China but is my fault". Does that make you feel good? With resignation, Yes! Of course it would, you are a low life who needs someone to always blame for your problems. Classic.
The definition of a despicable human being: While thousands of people are dying you brag(lie) about your popularity on Facebook.
This is really something: 79% of people who watch Trumphumper News as their primary news source *still* think the media has hyped coronavirus, even after all we've seen! Trumphumper News has really done Trump's bidding here in a major way.
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This is really something: 79% of people who watch Trumphumper News as their primary news source *still* think the media has hyped coronavirus, even after all we've seen! Trumphumper News has really done Trump's bidding here in a major way.
This is really something: 79% of people who watch Trumphumper News as their primary news source *still* think the media has hyped coronavirus, even after all we've seen! Trumphumper News has really done Trump's bidding here in a major way.
Provide a link to your 79% claim...and your twitter account with just your mom following doesnt count
Victory Belongs to the Most Tenacious
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Quote Originally Posted by Raiderpug:
This is really something: 79% of people who watch Trumphumper News as their primary news source *still* think the media has hyped coronavirus, even after all we've seen! Trumphumper News has really done Trump's bidding here in a major way.
Provide a link to your 79% claim...and your twitter account with just your mom following doesnt count
And no phillip nobody thinks trump is the cause of the virus,its just the country is in worse shape because the dummy got rid of departments that handled virus's from other countries(does that problem sound a little familiar to what we're going thru right now).And downplaying the seriousness of the virus.You know the statements "its a democratic hoax","its 1 person coming in from china,we got it under control","sometimes if people have it they can still go to work","the warm weather will kill it","and the 15 within a couple of days is going to be down to close to zero,thats a pretty good job we've done","Its going to disappear.One day-its like a miracle-it will disappear',"And we're prepared,and we're doing a great job with it.And it will go away.Just stay calm,and it will go away","everybody can get a test if they want one".You know,all those bullsh*t stories.Then hes got the balls to go on tv the other night,and want to be praised.Because the 100 or 200 hundred thousand Americans that are gonna die,arent really that bad,compared to the 2 million they projected would of died,if they had done ABSOLUTELY NOTHING,like he was thinking about doing.
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And no phillip nobody thinks trump is the cause of the virus,its just the country is in worse shape because the dummy got rid of departments that handled virus's from other countries(does that problem sound a little familiar to what we're going thru right now).And downplaying the seriousness of the virus.You know the statements "its a democratic hoax","its 1 person coming in from china,we got it under control","sometimes if people have it they can still go to work","the warm weather will kill it","and the 15 within a couple of days is going to be down to close to zero,thats a pretty good job we've done","Its going to disappear.One day-its like a miracle-it will disappear',"And we're prepared,and we're doing a great job with it.And it will go away.Just stay calm,and it will go away","everybody can get a test if they want one".You know,all those bullsh*t stories.Then hes got the balls to go on tv the other night,and want to be praised.Because the 100 or 200 hundred thousand Americans that are gonna die,arent really that bad,compared to the 2 million they projected would of died,if they had done ABSOLUTELY NOTHING,like he was thinking about doing.
And no phillip nobody thinks trump is the cause of the virus,its just the country is in worse shape because the dummy got rid of departments that handled virus's from other countries(does that problem sound a little familiar to what we're going thru right now).And downplaying the seriousness of the virus.You know the statements "its a democratic hoax","its 1 person coming in from china,we got it under control","sometimes if people have it they can still go to work","the warm weather will kill it","and the 15 within a couple of days is going to be down to close to zero,thats a pretty good job we've done","Its going to disappear.One day-its like a miracle-it will disappear',"And we're prepared,and we're doing a great job with it.And it will go away.Just stay calm,and it will go away","everybody can get a test if they want one".You know,all those bullsh*t stories.Then hes got the balls to go on tv the other night,and want to be praised.Because the 100 or 200 hundred thousand Americans that are gonna die,arent really that bad,compared to the 2 million they projected would of died,if they had done ABSOLUTELY NOTHING,like he was thinking about doing.
Yeah because its his fault people are dying over a virus made in China. This morning, I read everywhere it is also his fault 6 million lost their jobs last week. Oh how funny, the left is pleading for Trump to continue the lockdown instead of opening the economy, which he did, but then when jobs are lost, for obvious reasons, its his fault? Im sick and tired of people blaming others for their problems but never trying to fix their own. I understand this problem is bigger than just one person but how does it help anyone to yell and blame the government in a time when we all need to unite?
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Quote Originally Posted by BuckFalls:
And no phillip nobody thinks trump is the cause of the virus,its just the country is in worse shape because the dummy got rid of departments that handled virus's from other countries(does that problem sound a little familiar to what we're going thru right now).And downplaying the seriousness of the virus.You know the statements "its a democratic hoax","its 1 person coming in from china,we got it under control","sometimes if people have it they can still go to work","the warm weather will kill it","and the 15 within a couple of days is going to be down to close to zero,thats a pretty good job we've done","Its going to disappear.One day-its like a miracle-it will disappear',"And we're prepared,and we're doing a great job with it.And it will go away.Just stay calm,and it will go away","everybody can get a test if they want one".You know,all those bullsh*t stories.Then hes got the balls to go on tv the other night,and want to be praised.Because the 100 or 200 hundred thousand Americans that are gonna die,arent really that bad,compared to the 2 million they projected would of died,if they had done ABSOLUTELY NOTHING,like he was thinking about doing.
Yeah because its his fault people are dying over a virus made in China. This morning, I read everywhere it is also his fault 6 million lost their jobs last week. Oh how funny, the left is pleading for Trump to continue the lockdown instead of opening the economy, which he did, but then when jobs are lost, for obvious reasons, its his fault? Im sick and tired of people blaming others for their problems but never trying to fix their own. I understand this problem is bigger than just one person but how does it help anyone to yell and blame the government in a time when we all need to unite?
Guy do you even read something before you quote it.See wear it says at the beginning of the quote you quoted."And no philip nobody thinks trump is the cause of the virus",see wear it says that?You read that,and you respond AGAIN with the,"Yeah because its his fault people are dying over a virus made in china.
Then the best part is,hold on,this is classic,you said"Im sick and tired of people blaming others for their problems,but never trying to fix their own".Hold on,your the guy defending the person(trump),who does nothing but always blame somebody else besides himself,your the one sick and tired of someone else doing it,thats a classic.
And no response from you about trump getting rid of the department in charge of overseas virus's?No response about all his quotes downplaying it,nothing at all about those bullsh*t stories?All you come back with is,a repeat of,"Yeah its trumps fault about a virus made in china".You better start picking up your "defend him at all costs" game.Cause if the trajectory of the deaths keeps going the way it is(doubling every couple days),how you gonna defend 5,000 Americans dead every day with your lame a** excuse,"Yeah its trump fault because people are dying from a virus made in china?
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Guy do you even read something before you quote it.See wear it says at the beginning of the quote you quoted."And no philip nobody thinks trump is the cause of the virus",see wear it says that?You read that,and you respond AGAIN with the,"Yeah because its his fault people are dying over a virus made in china.
Then the best part is,hold on,this is classic,you said"Im sick and tired of people blaming others for their problems,but never trying to fix their own".Hold on,your the guy defending the person(trump),who does nothing but always blame somebody else besides himself,your the one sick and tired of someone else doing it,thats a classic.
And no response from you about trump getting rid of the department in charge of overseas virus's?No response about all his quotes downplaying it,nothing at all about those bullsh*t stories?All you come back with is,a repeat of,"Yeah its trumps fault about a virus made in china".You better start picking up your "defend him at all costs" game.Cause if the trajectory of the deaths keeps going the way it is(doubling every couple days),how you gonna defend 5,000 Americans dead every day with your lame a** excuse,"Yeah its trump fault because people are dying from a virus made in china?
Left and media will always start with the premise and the conclusion that “Trump is at fault” and go from there.
Yeah poor donny everybody is always mean to him.He does nothing about the situation for 2 1/2 months,and its everybody else fault,when the deaths are doubling.Then its funny you bring up the other buffoon,who invaded the wrong country,good comparison.
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Quote Originally Posted by Raiders22:
Left and media will always start with the premise and the conclusion that “Trump is at fault” and go from there.
Yeah poor donny everybody is always mean to him.He does nothing about the situation for 2 1/2 months,and its everybody else fault,when the deaths are doubling.Then its funny you bring up the other buffoon,who invaded the wrong country,good comparison.
Quote Originally Posted by BuckFalls: Who you gonna bring up next,nixon?Forget it,i forgot who i was dealing with,its obama and hillary's fault.
Why didn't the Obama administration replenish the n95 masks? Did you every explain that riddle, genius?
The national shortage of N95 respirator masks can be traced back to 2009 after the H1N1 swine flu pandemic, when the Obama administration was advised to replenish a national stockpile but did not, according to reports from Bloomberg News and the Los Angeles Times.
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A federally backed task force and a safety equipment organization both recommended to the Obama administration that the stockpile be replenished of the 100 million masks used after the H1N1 outbreak, according to the Los Angeles Times.
Charles Johnson, president of the International Safety Equipment Association, said that advice was never heeded.
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Bloomberg News reported similar findings last week, noting, “after the H1N1 influenza outbreak in 2009, which triggered a nationwide shortage of masks and caused a 2- to 3-year backlog orders for the N95 variety, the stockpile distributed about three-quarters of its inventory and didn’t build back the supply.”
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Quote Originally Posted by BuckFalls:
Quote Originally Posted by BuckFalls: Who you gonna bring up next,nixon?Forget it,i forgot who i was dealing with,its obama and hillary's fault.
Why didn't the Obama administration replenish the n95 masks? Did you every explain that riddle, genius?
The national shortage of N95 respirator masks can be traced back to 2009 after the H1N1 swine flu pandemic, when the Obama administration was advised to replenish a national stockpile but did not, according to reports from Bloomberg News and the Los Angeles Times.
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A federally backed task force and a safety equipment organization both recommended to the Obama administration that the stockpile be replenished of the 100 million masks used after the H1N1 outbreak, according to the Los Angeles Times.
Charles Johnson, president of the International Safety Equipment Association, said that advice was never heeded.
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Bloomberg News reported similar findings last week, noting, “after the H1N1 influenza outbreak in 2009, which triggered a nationwide shortage of masks and caused a 2- to 3-year backlog orders for the N95 variety, the stockpile distributed about three-quarters of its inventory and didn’t build back the supply.”
Quote Originally Posted by Raiders22: Left and media will always start with the premise and the conclusion that “Trump is at fault” and go from there.Yeah poor donny everybody is always mean to him.He does nothing about the situation for 2 1/2 months,and its everybody else fault,when the deaths are doubling.Then its funny you bring up the other buffoon,who invaded the wrong country,good comparison.
See you still new. Always try to stay caught up in here. Or you will get left behind. Can move real quickly in here.
The point was: no matter what Trump does he gets ‘blame’; no matter what he gets no ‘credit’ by the Left/Media. I.E. — travel ban reaction or hospital ship, economy, unemployment numbers or anything else. If things go well — Left/Media spin it to be credited to something or someone else. If things go poorly (no matter the reason) — Left/Media quickly blame Trump.
Yes, whether you like him or not, Media did the same with Bush. That was about the time you could see it so blatantly — the advent of 24-hour cable news and internet. Not so much with Reagan or Nixon because of the ever-changing dynamics.
Mall you have to do is contrast it with Left/Media spin with Obama or Clinton.
You have to be level with the credit if you are freely blaming a president just because he is in office.
The point is still the same: they take the position ‘Trump is at fault’ and build their case from there. Not very open-minded by the ‘open-minded’ proponents on the Left.
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Quote Originally Posted by BuckFalls:
Quote Originally Posted by Raiders22: Left and media will always start with the premise and the conclusion that “Trump is at fault” and go from there.Yeah poor donny everybody is always mean to him.He does nothing about the situation for 2 1/2 months,and its everybody else fault,when the deaths are doubling.Then its funny you bring up the other buffoon,who invaded the wrong country,good comparison.
See you still new. Always try to stay caught up in here. Or you will get left behind. Can move real quickly in here.
The point was: no matter what Trump does he gets ‘blame’; no matter what he gets no ‘credit’ by the Left/Media. I.E. — travel ban reaction or hospital ship, economy, unemployment numbers or anything else. If things go well — Left/Media spin it to be credited to something or someone else. If things go poorly (no matter the reason) — Left/Media quickly blame Trump.
Yes, whether you like him or not, Media did the same with Bush. That was about the time you could see it so blatantly — the advent of 24-hour cable news and internet. Not so much with Reagan or Nixon because of the ever-changing dynamics.
Mall you have to do is contrast it with Left/Media spin with Obama or Clinton.
You have to be level with the credit if you are freely blaming a president just because he is in office.
The point is still the same: they take the position ‘Trump is at fault’ and build their case from there. Not very open-minded by the ‘open-minded’ proponents on the Left.
Quote Originally Posted by BuckFalls: Quote Originally Posted by Raiders22: Left and media will always start with the premise and the conclusion that “Trump is at fault” and go from there.Yeah poor donny everybody is always mean to him.He does nothing about the situation for 2 1/2 months,and its everybody else fault,when the deaths are doubling.Then its funny you bring up the other buffoon,who invaded the wrong country,good comparison. See you still new. Always try to stay caught up in here. Or you will get left behind. Can move real quickly in here. The point was: no matter what Trump does he gets ‘blame’; no matter what he gets no ‘credit’ by the Left/Media. I.E. — travel ban reaction or hospital ship, economy, unemployment numbers or anything else. If things go well — Left/Media spin it to be credited to something or someone else. If things go poorly (no matter the reason) — Left/Media quickly blame Trump. Yes, whether you like him or not, Media did the same with Bush. That was about the time you could see it so blatantly — the advent of 24-hour cable news and internet. Not so much with Reagan or Nixon because of the ever-changing dynamics. Mall you have to do is contrast it with Left/Media spin with Obama or Clinton. You have to be level with the credit if you are freely blaming a president just because he is in office. The point is still the same: they take the position ‘Trump is at fault’ and build their case from there. Not very open-minded by the ‘open-minded’ proponents on the Left.
Yeah they did the same thing with bush,cause he literally lost 4.000 American lives cause he invaded the wrong country.In about a week or so when the deaths are about 5,000 a day,and he is in his press conference patting himself on the back.About how we are building more coffins then anybody has ever thought we could,that nobody ever dreamed it was possible that we could build so many coffins in a day,then will you still be congratulating him on his prompt response to the hoax.He has lied at every step of the way,you still cant get a test,that he promised everybody could get,2 weeks ago.Wait till the sh*t really hits the fan in a couple weeks,he will be throwing everybody under the bus,as fast as he can.You cant have a president who is as stable and thick-skinned,as a 12 year old girl on her period,and expect rational decisions to be made.
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Quote Originally Posted by Raiders22:
Quote Originally Posted by BuckFalls: Quote Originally Posted by Raiders22: Left and media will always start with the premise and the conclusion that “Trump is at fault” and go from there.Yeah poor donny everybody is always mean to him.He does nothing about the situation for 2 1/2 months,and its everybody else fault,when the deaths are doubling.Then its funny you bring up the other buffoon,who invaded the wrong country,good comparison. See you still new. Always try to stay caught up in here. Or you will get left behind. Can move real quickly in here. The point was: no matter what Trump does he gets ‘blame’; no matter what he gets no ‘credit’ by the Left/Media. I.E. — travel ban reaction or hospital ship, economy, unemployment numbers or anything else. If things go well — Left/Media spin it to be credited to something or someone else. If things go poorly (no matter the reason) — Left/Media quickly blame Trump. Yes, whether you like him or not, Media did the same with Bush. That was about the time you could see it so blatantly — the advent of 24-hour cable news and internet. Not so much with Reagan or Nixon because of the ever-changing dynamics. Mall you have to do is contrast it with Left/Media spin with Obama or Clinton. You have to be level with the credit if you are freely blaming a president just because he is in office. The point is still the same: they take the position ‘Trump is at fault’ and build their case from there. Not very open-minded by the ‘open-minded’ proponents on the Left.
Yeah they did the same thing with bush,cause he literally lost 4.000 American lives cause he invaded the wrong country.In about a week or so when the deaths are about 5,000 a day,and he is in his press conference patting himself on the back.About how we are building more coffins then anybody has ever thought we could,that nobody ever dreamed it was possible that we could build so many coffins in a day,then will you still be congratulating him on his prompt response to the hoax.He has lied at every step of the way,you still cant get a test,that he promised everybody could get,2 weeks ago.Wait till the sh*t really hits the fan in a couple weeks,he will be throwing everybody under the bus,as fast as he can.You cant have a president who is as stable and thick-skinned,as a 12 year old girl on her period,and expect rational decisions to be made.
Left and media will always start with the premise and the conclusion that “Trump is at fault” and go from there.
That's how I look at it too, Raiders. Like the impeachment effort. They (media and Dems) were set on impeaching Trump from the first few days in office. The method ? No one knew, but they would find one, and the Ukrainian nonsense became their tool. It's a game of connect the dots with them. Arrive at a conclusion, then try to connect the dots from start to finish (conclusion).
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Quote Originally Posted by Raiders22:
Left and media will always start with the premise and the conclusion that “Trump is at fault” and go from there.
That's how I look at it too, Raiders. Like the impeachment effort. They (media and Dems) were set on impeaching Trump from the first few days in office. The method ? No one knew, but they would find one, and the Ukrainian nonsense became their tool. It's a game of connect the dots with them. Arrive at a conclusion, then try to connect the dots from start to finish (conclusion).
Quote Originally Posted by Raiders22: Left and media will always start with the premise and the conclusion that “Trump is at fault” and go from there. That's how I look at it too, Raiders. Like the impeachment effort. They (media and Dems) were set on impeaching Trump from the first few days in office. The method ? No one knew, but they would find one, and the Ukrainian nonsense became their tool. It's a game of connect the dots with them. Arrive at a conclusion, then try to connect the dots from start to finish (conclusion).
The impeachment nonsense went through January. The democrats wasted time of hundreds of politicians to focus on their scam instead of worrying about the Coronavirus. On the last day of the same January, Trump banned all travel to China, the first major great step he took to try and protect our country. What did liberals do too respond to that? They called it a move of a racist where Trump was doing it just to ban off a certain type of people. What are those same stupid liberals saying now? They are asking why Trump did not do it earlier or do more. These people are scary. They are bipolar and turn back and forth just to blame a certain person. Remember this line right here and understand this when a liberal tells you Trump is a failure. Since day 1 of office, the left has tried to impeach him and every day they strive not to work with him to make this country better, but try to bring him down. That right there is pure evil. But they will look you in the face and tell you that Trump is the criminal.
Rush, I have yet to figure out why the media is so centered on defeating Trump. I myself am not the biggest Trump supporter but I do the smart thing, I try to support the President because he is a Republican. The media is the biggest threat in our country and the people on this site are a clear picture of how dems work. They make threads on threads of bashing Trump, but if you or I go in there and say something back, they will bully us into saying we are being political and have it all wrong.
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Quote Originally Posted by Rush51:
Quote Originally Posted by Raiders22: Left and media will always start with the premise and the conclusion that “Trump is at fault” and go from there. That's how I look at it too, Raiders. Like the impeachment effort. They (media and Dems) were set on impeaching Trump from the first few days in office. The method ? No one knew, but they would find one, and the Ukrainian nonsense became their tool. It's a game of connect the dots with them. Arrive at a conclusion, then try to connect the dots from start to finish (conclusion).
The impeachment nonsense went through January. The democrats wasted time of hundreds of politicians to focus on their scam instead of worrying about the Coronavirus. On the last day of the same January, Trump banned all travel to China, the first major great step he took to try and protect our country. What did liberals do too respond to that? They called it a move of a racist where Trump was doing it just to ban off a certain type of people. What are those same stupid liberals saying now? They are asking why Trump did not do it earlier or do more. These people are scary. They are bipolar and turn back and forth just to blame a certain person. Remember this line right here and understand this when a liberal tells you Trump is a failure. Since day 1 of office, the left has tried to impeach him and every day they strive not to work with him to make this country better, but try to bring him down. That right there is pure evil. But they will look you in the face and tell you that Trump is the criminal.
Rush, I have yet to figure out why the media is so centered on defeating Trump. I myself am not the biggest Trump supporter but I do the smart thing, I try to support the President because he is a Republican. The media is the biggest threat in our country and the people on this site are a clear picture of how dems work. They make threads on threads of bashing Trump, but if you or I go in there and say something back, they will bully us into saying we are being political and have it all wrong.
Phillip, they just hate Trump more than they love this country. That's how I look at it.. It is a sad state of affairs in this country when in a crisis we have today, we can't come together as a nation, and unilaterally accept that China is the source of today's pandemic, and China acted irresponsibly from the start. (Is Italy blaming its leaders for acting too slowly ?? A terrible bit of irony is that they were the first and most aggressive country in Europe to close off Chinese Flights.. they still got hit hard).
I don't know if you're familiar with Mark Levin, but may I suggest a book , "Unfreedom of the Press" that will open your eyes on the absurdity that is the media.
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Phillip, they just hate Trump more than they love this country. That's how I look at it.. It is a sad state of affairs in this country when in a crisis we have today, we can't come together as a nation, and unilaterally accept that China is the source of today's pandemic, and China acted irresponsibly from the start. (Is Italy blaming its leaders for acting too slowly ?? A terrible bit of irony is that they were the first and most aggressive country in Europe to close off Chinese Flights.. they still got hit hard).
I don't know if you're familiar with Mark Levin, but may I suggest a book , "Unfreedom of the Press" that will open your eyes on the absurdity that is the media.
Not sure it is Trump they hate as much as simply any Republican. Trump just happens to be less diplomatic when they attack him than previous Republicans. They are not used to getting fired back on in return (even harder than they fired) and this really infuriates them.
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Not sure it is Trump they hate as much as simply any Republican. Trump just happens to be less diplomatic when they attack him than previous Republicans. They are not used to getting fired back on in return (even harder than they fired) and this really infuriates them.
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