I understand. I don't think you understand what I am saying.
You are describing personality flaws. Not methodology flaws. So your statement that bankroll amounts are not relative is your opinion with your perception of how peoples personality fails them. As opposed to a true difference in fundamentals that are determined by bankroll size.
It is my opinion that if you cant be as serious with a 600 dollar bankroll as you are with a 60K bankroll - and make the same exact actions and decisions - you should not consider gambling as a profession. You don't have what it takes and are destined to fail.
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Quote Originally Posted by vanzack:
I understand. I don't think you understand what I am saying.
You are describing personality flaws. Not methodology flaws. So your statement that bankroll amounts are not relative is your opinion with your perception of how peoples personality fails them. As opposed to a true difference in fundamentals that are determined by bankroll size.
It is my opinion that if you cant be as serious with a 600 dollar bankroll as you are with a 60K bankroll - and make the same exact actions and decisions - you should not consider gambling as a profession. You don't have what it takes and are destined to fail.
To make a living starting with a $600 bankroll, you practically would have to be the second coming of Jesus...it's just not going to happen.
To make a living with a 20k bankroll, you just have to be good.
Even if you THINK you can be as serious...you can't be.
You might be a competitive guy who's disciplined and focused when playing golf with your friends and take the game seriously. But that last 6 footer is a lot different when a green jacket is on the line, with tons of people watching.
Even the best have cracked under such pressure. Some 3-point shooters can go 50/50 in practice when nobody around or guarding them.
It takes money to make money....and you give yourself a lot more options with a bigger bank roll.
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To make a living starting with a $600 bankroll, you practically would have to be the second coming of Jesus...it's just not going to happen.
To make a living with a 20k bankroll, you just have to be good.
Even if you THINK you can be as serious...you can't be.
You might be a competitive guy who's disciplined and focused when playing golf with your friends and take the game seriously. But that last 6 footer is a lot different when a green jacket is on the line, with tons of people watching.
Even the best have cracked under such pressure. Some 3-point shooters can go 50/50 in practice when nobody around or guarding them.
It takes money to make money....and you give yourself a lot more options with a bigger bank roll.
A HUGE bankroll means you can lose longer before reality sets in...
If you can not win enough on a regular basis to cover living expenses you are not making a living at sports betting...
Seriously... How many thousands are normally lost before a profit is realized? 10,000 dollars and THEN a profit is possible...
OR is it as a Professional Gambler you should figure to lose the first month or two AND then a profit is possible...
I well understand there are losing streaks and winning streaks... The trick being to have the winning streaks exceed the losing streaks...
But if right out of the gate you are on a long losing streak you really, really should be reconsidering whether betting sports professionally is for you.
The biggest reason I do not see why a huge bankroll is needed is... I would think... That if someone was starting a career as a Professional Sports Better...
They would: 1. Have a PROVEN system, way or strategy in place BEFORE quitting the day job and telling the boss to kiss their @ss. 2. They would start their career as a Professional Sports Better at the most optimum time for themselves... If MLB is the sport of choice and makes the money... Starting the career as a Professional Sports Better right after the World Series would be moronic... To say the least...
It is only logical to me that a person starting a career as a Professional Sports Better should be on fire at least at the very beginning...
If anyone can explain how someone can be considered a Professional Sports Better in the beginning without starting out on a winning note PLEASE Do...
And I do get and agree with the bigger the bankroll the better... But a bankroll will not make up for losing more than you will constantly...
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A HUGE bankroll means you can lose longer before reality sets in...
If you can not win enough on a regular basis to cover living expenses you are not making a living at sports betting...
Seriously... How many thousands are normally lost before a profit is realized? 10,000 dollars and THEN a profit is possible...
OR is it as a Professional Gambler you should figure to lose the first month or two AND then a profit is possible...
I well understand there are losing streaks and winning streaks... The trick being to have the winning streaks exceed the losing streaks...
But if right out of the gate you are on a long losing streak you really, really should be reconsidering whether betting sports professionally is for you.
The biggest reason I do not see why a huge bankroll is needed is... I would think... That if someone was starting a career as a Professional Sports Better...
They would: 1. Have a PROVEN system, way or strategy in place BEFORE quitting the day job and telling the boss to kiss their @ss. 2. They would start their career as a Professional Sports Better at the most optimum time for themselves... If MLB is the sport of choice and makes the money... Starting the career as a Professional Sports Better right after the World Series would be moronic... To say the least...
It is only logical to me that a person starting a career as a Professional Sports Better should be on fire at least at the very beginning...
If anyone can explain how someone can be considered a Professional Sports Better in the beginning without starting out on a winning note PLEASE Do...
And I do get and agree with the bigger the bankroll the better... But a bankroll will not make up for losing more than you will constantly...
If you for one second think that you can quit your job to become a professional sports gambler, i think youve smoked a really bad crack rock, no offense, gambling doesnt pay off, too much has to play in your favor. i once took 100 and turned it into 13grand, i won 23 straight nfl and college games, not to mention a couple nba, a moneyline here and there, its not gonna happen dude, keep your job, and quit gabling. if you wanna gable and can afford it go ahead, be smart. peace brotha
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If you for one second think that you can quit your job to become a professional sports gambler, i think youve smoked a really bad crack rock, no offense, gambling doesnt pay off, too much has to play in your favor. i once took 100 and turned it into 13grand, i won 23 straight nfl and college games, not to mention a couple nba, a moneyline here and there, its not gonna happen dude, keep your job, and quit gabling. if you wanna gable and can afford it go ahead, be smart. peace brotha
Got a health insurance package with that job? Benefits? Better consider that before making your sole source of income; Sports Wagering. My job is simply a diversion to this alter ego of profitable sports wagering, because I have this innate need to have a service to society. Also, better have an iron clad system, heavy in mathematics, and void of emotion. BOL!
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Got a health insurance package with that job? Benefits? Better consider that before making your sole source of income; Sports Wagering. My job is simply a diversion to this alter ego of profitable sports wagering, because I have this innate need to have a service to society. Also, better have an iron clad system, heavy in mathematics, and void of emotion. BOL!
You busting this poor guys dream up? Why not tell the guy to borrow as much as possible from everyone he knows (like 5K), and move to the land of legal shitty juice = las vegas. He can stay at an extended stay. Then within a month hell be bust and done and move back to mom and dad!
On a serious note take that $600 and buy the most expensive scratch off lotto tickets your state offers. That my friend, (not sportsbetting) with those pennies is your best chance!
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Van & others here,
You busting this poor guys dream up? Why not tell the guy to borrow as much as possible from everyone he knows (like 5K), and move to the land of legal shitty juice = las vegas. He can stay at an extended stay. Then within a month hell be bust and done and move back to mom and dad!
On a serious note take that $600 and buy the most expensive scratch off lotto tickets your state offers. That my friend, (not sportsbetting) with those pennies is your best chance!
A HUGE bankroll means you can lose longer before reality sets in...
If you can not win enough on a regular basis to cover living expenses you are not making a living at sports betting...
Seriously... How many thousands are normally lost before a profit is realized? 10,000 dollars and THEN a profit is possible...
OR is it as a Professional Gambler you should figure to lose the first month or two AND then a profit is possible...
I well understand there are losing streaks and winning streaks... The trick being to have the winning streaks exceed the losing streaks...
But if right out of the gate you are on a long losing streak you really, really should be reconsidering whether betting sports professionally is for you.
The biggest reason I do not see why a huge bankroll is needed is... I would think... That if someone was starting a career as a Professional Sports Better...
They would: 1. Have a PROVEN system, way or strategy in place BEFORE quitting the day job and telling the boss to kiss their @ss. 2. They would start their career as a Professional Sports Better at the most optimum time for themselves... If MLB is the sport of choice and makes the money... Starting the career as a Professional Sports Better right after the World Series would be moronic... To say the least...
It is only logical to me that a person starting a career as a Professional Sports Better should be on fire at least at the very beginning...
If anyone can explain how someone can be considered a Professional Sports Better in the beginning without starting out on a winning note PLEASE Do...
And I do get and agree with the bigger the bankroll the better... But a bankroll will not make up for losing more than you will constantly...
Exactly. It's a marathon, not a sprint.
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Quote Originally Posted by Randisist:
A HUGE bankroll means you can lose longer before reality sets in...
If you can not win enough on a regular basis to cover living expenses you are not making a living at sports betting...
Seriously... How many thousands are normally lost before a profit is realized? 10,000 dollars and THEN a profit is possible...
OR is it as a Professional Gambler you should figure to lose the first month or two AND then a profit is possible...
I well understand there are losing streaks and winning streaks... The trick being to have the winning streaks exceed the losing streaks...
But if right out of the gate you are on a long losing streak you really, really should be reconsidering whether betting sports professionally is for you.
The biggest reason I do not see why a huge bankroll is needed is... I would think... That if someone was starting a career as a Professional Sports Better...
They would: 1. Have a PROVEN system, way or strategy in place BEFORE quitting the day job and telling the boss to kiss their @ss. 2. They would start their career as a Professional Sports Better at the most optimum time for themselves... If MLB is the sport of choice and makes the money... Starting the career as a Professional Sports Better right after the World Series would be moronic... To say the least...
It is only logical to me that a person starting a career as a Professional Sports Better should be on fire at least at the very beginning...
If anyone can explain how someone can be considered a Professional Sports Better in the beginning without starting out on a winning note PLEASE Do...
And I do get and agree with the bigger the bankroll the better... But a bankroll will not make up for losing more than you will constantly...
Theoretically an unlimited bankroll would be best but realistically best case scenario over time is 15-20% return so with that in mind you should be able to realize you aren't gonna make a living doing this unless you are quite wealthy already.
I look at it more like side work/entertainment...Whatever my current roll I usually wager 2-5% on straight plays, a little less on very few parlays and I may stick my neck out on occasion with a 10% ML favorite.
In my heyday late 90's to 2003 or so I had 6 online books and a local with at least 30K worth of deposit/credit. Now I'm a happy stress free player year round with about 4K between 2 account. When my roll hits 5K I scoop a G and when it hits 2K I top it back up. I have made modest profit 2 of last 3 years and enjoys an immense amount of entertainment value.
Just my 2 cents.
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Theoretically an unlimited bankroll would be best but realistically best case scenario over time is 15-20% return so with that in mind you should be able to realize you aren't gonna make a living doing this unless you are quite wealthy already.
I look at it more like side work/entertainment...Whatever my current roll I usually wager 2-5% on straight plays, a little less on very few parlays and I may stick my neck out on occasion with a 10% ML favorite.
In my heyday late 90's to 2003 or so I had 6 online books and a local with at least 30K worth of deposit/credit. Now I'm a happy stress free player year round with about 4K between 2 account. When my roll hits 5K I scoop a G and when it hits 2K I top it back up. I have made modest profit 2 of last 3 years and enjoys an immense amount of entertainment value.
It is a psychology issue. To say you can show the same discipline, motivation, focus and commitment between both cases would be ideal...but unrealistic. That's just not how we're wired.
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It is a psychology issue. To say you can show the same discipline, motivation, focus and commitment between both cases would be ideal...but unrealistic. That's just not how we're wired.
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