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What led up to Japan attacking Pearl Harbor?

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Slobbasaurus

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Posted: May. 12, 2016 - 9:17 AM ET #26

Quote Originally Posted by mainman11111:

you are taught in history classes that america dropped the a bomb so they would save american lives.

apparently truman got a telegram from the emperor saying theyre surrendering.

the russians invaded japan and thus the americans wanted japan for themselves and dropped two a bombs.

americans wanted to test the weapon. thus creating a strategic 'cold war'

the push for a cold phony war was further put in play....

when regan kept telling the american public theyre behind in every way and we must not lose! the gw bushes kept using the tatics regan used by creating a war on terror. genius play.

the facts are coming to light as americans are pushing for the truth.

now we have a surveillance state, where obama can put a 40mil dollar tomahack up a camel's butt w.o anyone saying anything.

further more the south koreans have signed their lives away and now we have hyundais and kias for all. korean goods are the new japanese good.

France and german civilians are spied upon. our favorite new outsourced product is our analyst spying on their civilians! we rake in so much money from it. it is unheard of! if your countries airport gets bomb'd you probably didnt pay the _____.

youtube: rms lusitania sinking, pearl harbor, gulf of tonkin. etc etc... only a small percentage of americans understand the truth.

they do not teach you about the 8 presidents before george wash. they wont teach you anything about the vietnam war.

And where did that dirtball start his life? Southie projects

Did you get that line from The Departed?

Just curious

nature1970

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Posted: May. 12, 2016 - 5:13 PM ET #27

if we must twelve into the root context of Japanese aggression in the Pacific we must first understand the ruski Japanese war of early 1900 the rusians and Japanese begrugendlybsignn ed the treaty of Portsmouth with Roosevelt presided over The Japanese felt betrayed by the Americans Russians felt they have up two much territory Korean province nearly the only open water on the eastern Pacific boxer year round, these two nations have been hostile for nearly a century and a half. Deep seeded catered lingures in the region,,,

LeRinkRat

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Posted: May. 12, 2016 - 9:11 PM ET #28

Quote Originally Posted by searchwarrant:

Luckily most of our pacific fleet was anchored offshore.
Japs bumbled that one up too.

the three Pacific Fleet Aircraft Carriers were at sea delivering aircraft to various pacific bases. Japs missed their chance to sink them and paid for @ Midway June of 1942

rainmaker1855

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Posted: May. 13, 2016 - 9:26 AM ET #29

I mean, not to come in late and correct everyone, but I believe it was the Germans who bombed Pearl Harbor.....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V8lT1o0sDwI

Slobbasaurus

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Posted: May. 13, 2016 - 9:52 AM ET #30

A plane leaves Los Angeles airport under the control of a Jewish captain.

His copilot is Chinese. It's the first time they've flown together, and an awkward silence between the two seems to indicate a mutual dislike.

Once they reach cruising altitude, the Jewish captain activates the auto-pilot, leans back in his seat, and mutters, 'I don't like Chinese.'

'No rike Chinese?' asks the copilot, '....why not?'

'You people bombed Pearl Harbor, that's why !'

'No, no,' the co-pilot protests, 'Chinese not bomb Peahl Hahbah! That Japanese, not Chinese.'

'Japanese, Chinese, Vietnamese... doesn't matter, you're all alike!'

There's a few minutes of silence.

'I no rike person either!' the copilot suddenly announces.

'Oh yeah, why not?' asks the captain.

'person sink Titanic.'

'What? That's insane! person didn't sink the Titanic!' exclaims the captain, 'It was an iceberg!'

'Iceberg, Goldberg, Greenberg, Rosenberg ...no mattah... all same.'

SarasotaSlim

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Posted: May. 13, 2016 - 11:16 AM ET #31

Later this month,, President Obama will be visiting Hiroshima, Japan to apologize for Japan attacking Pearl Harbor and for America winning the war.....

Newtons Law

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Posted: May. 15, 2016 - 9:39 AM ET #32

Quote Originally Posted by Slobbasaurus:

Quote Originally Posted by mainman11111:

Pearl Harbor

was attacked by americans in japanese planes.just
like 9/11

And yet another conspiracy
clown emerges from the woodwork.Covers gets
more and more every year. Phucking millenial
clowns.Keep blaming our government; it's not
disrespectful to our fallen countrymen or anything.

Slob I gotta hand it to you on your contributions here you are usually right on the mark

Slobbasaurus

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Posted: May. 15, 2016 - 1:49 PM ET #33

Quote Originally Posted by Newtons Law:

And yet another conspiracy
clown emerges from the woodwork.Covers gets
more and more every year. Phucking millenial
clowns.Keep blaming our government; it's not
disrespectful to our fallen countrymen or anything.

Slob I gotta hand it to you on your contributions here you are usually right on the mark

Thanks man. The way that it's formatted though, it appears that I wrote it like I'm the conspiracy clown, hahaha.

My older brother thinks this way. I constantly debate with him.

A History Channel education does not trump a real one

ShadowWarrior

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Posted: May. 18, 2016 - 12:30 AM ET #34

Quote Originally Posted by Raiderpug:

The attack on Pearl Harbor was a surprise, but Japan and the United States had been edging toward war for decades. The United States was particularly unhappy with Japan’s increasingly belligerent attitude toward China. The Japanese government believed that the only way to solve its economic and demographic problems was to expand into its neighbor’s territory and take over its import market; to this end, Japan had declared war on China in 1937. American officials responded to this aggression with a battery of economic sanctions and trade embargoes. They reasoned that without access to money and goods, and especially essential supplies like oil, Japan would have to rein in its expansionism. Instead, the sanctions made the Japanese more determined to stand their ground. During months of negotiations between Tokyo and Washington, D.C., neither side would budge. It seemed that war was inevitable.

My Grandfather was seventeen on December 7, 1941 and he and his friends went the next day and joined the Marines.

ShadowWarrior

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Posted: May. 18, 2016 - 12:34 AM ET #35

The above quote is accurate. America had troops in PI, Wake Island, Midway, and of course PH. War was coming, they were caught off guard. Like 911.......

Killer_B

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Posted: May. 18, 2016 - 12:55 AM ET #36

My Grandfather was seventeen on December 7, 1941 and he and his friends went the next day and joined the Marines.

Very well written. Of course if this happened today, the population has been so brainwashed, a "normal" reaction would be "what did we do to deserve this" and then go protest... U.S. Nationalism is an endangered species thanks to our current King who constantly apologizes for things he shouldn't. There's an old saying that "a fish stinks from the head", the current POTUS wreaks...

searchwarrant

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Posted: May. 18, 2016 - 1:40 AM ET #37

Mitsubishi person Zeros were pretty wicked on that run and for another couple years.. Once we tossed up the Hellcats we were shooting fish in a barrel.

American war machine.

Rush51

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Posted: May. 20, 2016 - 11:27 PM ET #38

Quote Originally Posted by mainman11111:

you are taught in history classes that america dropped the a bomb so they would save american lives.

apparently truman got a telegram from the emperor saying theyre surrendering.

the russians invaded japan and thus the americans wanted japan for themselves and dropped two a bombs.

americans wanted to test the weapon. thus creating a strategic 'cold war'

the push for a cold phony war was further put in play....

when regan kept telling the american public theyre behind in every way and we must not lose! the gw bushes kept using the tatics regan used by creating a war on terror. genius play.

the facts are coming to light as americans are pushing for the truth.

now we have a surveillance state, where obama can put a 40mil dollar tomahack up a camel's butt w.o anyone saying anything.

further more the south koreans have signed their lives away and now we have hyundais and kias for all. korean goods are the new japanese good.

You are a certified 'kook'. The U.S. lost many at Iwo Jima, and the losses at a fortified Japan would have been incalculable. So, yes, by all means, drop them (two) bombs to save American lives.

Rush51

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Posted: May. 20, 2016 - 11:37 PM ET #39

Quote Originally Posted by Killer_B:

Very well written. Of course if this happened today, the population has been so brainwashed, a "normal" reaction would be "what did we do to deserve this" and then go protest... U.S. Nationalism is an endangered species thanks to our current King who constantly apologizes for things he shouldn't. There's an old saying that "a fish stinks from the head", the current POTUS wreaks...

Hey, Killer, have you heard.. Our Emperor in chief is concluding his Apologetic Tour from 2007. Back then, he was apologizing to all the Europeans for all of America's sins.. Now, he is concluding his great Tour in Japan in 2016, harvesting sorrow for all of America's sins to the Japanese.

I think it's time to re-evaluate whether our Imperial Leader was really ever an American Citizen. His actions run contrary to any good study of History , and furthers an ambition to weaken America.

LeRinkRat

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Posted: May. 21, 2016 - 12:06 AM ET #40

Quote Originally Posted by searchwarrant:

Mitsubishi person Zeros were pretty wicked on that run and for another couple years.. Once we tossed up the Hellcats we were shooting fish in a barrel.

American war machine.

true statement. a close friend of my fathers from the Navy reserves post WWII was first a Grumman F-4F Wildcat and later F-6F Hellcat pilot during WWII. with the Wildcat the person Zero pilots would go into a climb hoping the Wildcat would follow, run out of airspeed and then the Zero could turn and shoot it down. when the Hellcat showed up they would try the same maneuver BUT the F-6F could exceed their climb and blew them out of the sky.

the Hellcat has THE highest kill to loss ratio of ANY WWII fighter at 19 to 1 in air to air combat