Why are so many people "afraid" of Trump?

For starters, the endorsement from Putin wasn't an endorsement, it was an indictment of Trump's negotiating skills. Does anybody really think if Putin and Trump were in a room together that Trump would come out ahead? World leaders like Putin have to be licking their chops at the prospect of raking this guy over the coals. Trump took on a goliath once before when he took on the NFL, how did that turn out again? He isn't going to strong arm anyone.

Next, go onto any business/economic/stock related website and read article after article after article about how Trump's proposed policies will cripple your state. You can claim media bias, but everywhere you look, unrelated news entities are spreading the word that Trump is going to be bad for business. Continue going on to these sites to see more and more people of high business acumen continue to come forward and explain how bad Trump is going to be for you, your state, and your country's economy.

Let's not forget the issue of the wall that he wants built along the southern border. He has grossly underestimated the time and cost of such an expansive project. Not to mention he is too stupid to comprehend that "drugs and bad guys" don't flow in across the border. They tunnel under it, go by submarine, or hop a flight. Massive amounts of rapists and drugs aren't going to stop flooding into our country. The only thing that is going to be stemmed from coming into our country will be the migrants that we need to keep our costs down. Ever seen a white guy with a college education out there in the fields picking those fruits and veggies? Yeah, me neither. Whether you agree with it or not, illegal immigrants are a key component to our economy. Cut that off, and watch the agriculture and construction industry collapse. Sure will suck when the concrete company comes in with a bunch of white guys who are covered to the hilt with insurance. Your new driveway will cost you 20K.

He wants to ban Muslims from hostile countries. Care to take a stab at where most of the slaughterhouse industry comes from? Somalia. Not anymore if Donald takes over. Hope you don't mind paying 50 bucks for a steak at the grocery store, because every sh!t job in this country is going to have to pay 25 bucks an hour to attract those white people that Trump is catering his campaign to.

He is running on the platform that he is an amazing business man. Last time I checked, he inherited a ton, and largely exploits loopholes. When he doesn't get his way, he litigates or neglects to pay. All the attorneys in the US won't be able to bail him out if he craps the bed when negotiating a new trade agreement with China.

He got into a pissing contest with Ed Koch and instead of dominating the New York skyline with Trump buildings, he got absolutely fleeced by a contingent of Chinese businessmen.

If you have done your homework, and Trump is your guy, then I am happy for you, and I hope he pulls through. But this notion that Trump is going to re-energize the country and "Make it Great" again is a crock of garbage.

I challenge anyone out there to explain to me how Syrian relocation programs like the ones outlined in the links below benefit America and the citizens of America:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/us-to-greatly-expand-resettlement-for-syrian-refugees/2014/09/30/8adaf1e4-48ef-11e4-b72e-d60a9229cc10_story.html

https://www.state.gov/j/prm/releases/factsheets/2016/254649.htm

What is the benefit to the US in terms of the following:

1) Potential economic growth

2) Domestic Safety

I am curious if anyone has some thoughts.....this topic has come close to home, as the federal government has decided to relocate 100 Syrian families to Missoula, MT. Not sure if anyone has ever been up this way, but there are very few jobs and even fewer individuals of middle eastern decent. The odds of a Syrian national being able to assimilate into western Montana successfully are slim and none.

It is a real head scratcher, and I can readily admit that I cannot figure out an upside to letting the refugees in....a little help?? 

Sidehatch-

Well done. You managed to call me a stupid racist in all caps.

You prove my point perfectly. You are quick to anger, and everyone has an intellect beneath yours. People like you aren't fit to choose a leader....too emotional. 

Now, take a deep breath, and read my answers until they click.

OK partner:

1) Trade deals that have crushed industry in the US: NAFTA sure wasn't a good one for our interests. NAFTA also illustrates why politician on both sides of the ledger are complicit in selling US interests out....it was started by GHW Bush and finished up by Clinton. I also would recognize the Kyoto agreement as a trade deal. Under the guise of climate stewardship, the US agreed to cut carbon emissions through stemming energy production. Developing countries such as China and India did not...thus we began operating at a competitive disadvantage in the energy and manufacturing sectors.

2) Waco....Bill Clinton gave the order to burn out the davidians at Waco. The notion was that the women and children would exit the compound when it was lit on fire. That didn't happen....the ATF, at the direction of the federal government, knocked holes in opposing ends of the main building of the compound....the wind was blowing, and when tear gas was ignited the compound burned rapidly. 74 people died...25 children. https://abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=2908955&page=1 The order came from the Clinton political machine to end the siege because the administration was losing face and beginning to suffer politically. This fact alone should have gotten someone court marshaled. Again, politicians in their finest hour.

3) Infowars...  Not a big fan, but good for a laugh now and again. Check out Alex Jones in this clip: https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=doug+stanhope+austin+incident&view=detail&mid=99FF2E997B96035EA7F099FF2E997B96035EA7F0&FORM=VIRE

4) I do not understand your perception of the Executive branch of government. Please focus on paragraph number 2 of the following Whitehouse.gov link defining the duties of the executive branch: https://www.whitehouse.gov/1600/executive-branch Do you understand that the president's "cabinet and federal agencies" are responsible for day-to-day enforcement of federal laws? The only time the President is making law-based decisions is when he is working with congress to craft a new law or amend an old one? Is that clear to you? At all? Are you an aspiring lawyer and think that law is your area of expertise? If so, I see a lot of pro-bono work in your future.

Well, thanks again for calling me an "idiot" and a "racist". Do you have any idea how tired those insults are.......

I get the feeling that you are a very angry young man. You gave me some advice, so let me give you some in return: Live a few more years before you chime in with ridiculous textbook assertions. That AA degree hanging on your wall is doing you more harm than good.

And by the way, I have a substantial amount of glimmer down on Trump at +400 to win the presidency....put it down the Tuesday after the Orlando shootings.

He may not even get on the ticket with the republicans undermining the candidacy, but if he does the vote will look like Brexit.

Until you morons address my points one by one, you 'tards are going to get ignored. Here you go cowards. Address each point in caps one by one, and then I'll address yours. Until then, you're just a barrel of filthy cowards.

Quote Originally Posted by Sidehatch:

Hillary 51, Trump 39. Most of the country thinks you're a moron. Time to get with the times. 

The days of mob rule are over. The days of morons who know nothing about the law, electing a person to govern all laws - are over. The days of intelligence are here. And that is why Trump will lose. 

I am sorry you fail to understand why. 

Nothing better than quoting an MSNBC or Huffington Post pre election poll in late June for validation.

All you, or anyone, needs to know about the potential outcome of this election is that the big offshore books have pulled the odds for winning the presidency down in the wake of the Brexit vote.

I found the line of +325 for Trump at 5dimes, but that is low limit stuff......bookmaker pulled the odds down before Brexit, and those bets had 5k limits. Nobody is booking substantial action as of this writing.

FWIW, 5dimes has Hillary facing federal charges at +260.....in my opinion that is stretch, but it is funny to see the presidential "front runner" from the democratic party having a line on whether or not they will be indicted before the election.

So, I will post some information on why polls have limited utility when it comes to actually predicting the winner in the POTUS election. It won't make much of a difference to you, but they are fairly instructive links:

First this is how we elect a president:

https://www.electoral-vote.com/evp2014/Info/electoral-college.html

It is possible to win the election without the popular vote:

https://www.factcheck.org/2008/03/presidents-winning-without-popular-vote/

This guy has an interesting take on the statistical possibilities surrounding winning the US presidency with a popular vote of 22%:

https://www.squarefree.com/2004/11/01/winning-an-election-with-22-of-the-popular-vote/

Here is some work measuring the predictive value of polling data in the presidential election. The section titled "Wobbly General Election Polls" is interesting:

https://www.pewresearch.org/2007/02/14/how-reliable-are-the-early-presidential-polls/

Lastly, take a good look at the Republican/Democrat state by state and county by county map from the 2012 POTUS election:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/special/politics/election-map-2012/president/

https://www.outsidethebeltway.com/2012-election-county-by-county/

So, why not throw in some prognostications?

Here is how I think this election shakes out if it is a Trump/Clinton matchup:

1) Trump wins everywhere Romney won. Take a look at the state by state breakdown above.

2) It is important to remember that Obama was extremely popular among democrats  and that fact facilitated a substantial turnout where it counted.

3) In 2012 Obama carried 50% of the popular vote to Romney's 47%. Due to lower democrat turnout, Hillary will carry less than 50% of the popular....my guess is 48ish. Trump will win the popular vote.

4) Actually winning the election is another matter. It comes down to Florida and Ohio to get to 270. Like I said, Trump wins everywhere Romney won. Take a look at the county-by-county map of 2012 listed above......Obama won Florida by a razor thin 50 to 49.1% in Florida. Trump has a shot to pick up the counties in the panhandle of FLA that went for Obama, and the north central counties as well.

5) Turnout from conservative republicans will be much larger than in 2012. It isn't a nice thing to say, but Romney's open affiliation with the Mormon church hurt him among republican voters. ANYTHING that polarizes a voting base along religious lines can only hurt.....his affiliations with the LDS cost him votes, and more importantly, turnout.

All of these factors combined put this election into crapshoot territory. Clinton will carry everywhere that democrats usually carry....Trump will carry the rest plus have a real shot at Ohio and Florida.

Personally, at 4/1 the Trump bet has value written all over it....this election is even money at best.

Well Sidehatch, here is where we part ways. I have just taught you how to handicap something as complex as a presidential race, so if you had any honor at all you would send me some bitcoins for my time.

But seriously, your ideology, and that of people with your views and temperament, is very dangerous. I hope you lose your election........I hope you lose badly.