Although it's 3 weeks away, they already have some props for the Rumble match.
Lesnar Wins +150
Field -190
The plan for Reigns was when he won the title, he would surpass Punk's past reign for longest title holder in the "common era." What better match for him then by beating Lesnar at WM? With so many injuries to big named guys, nobody else really makes sense. And FINALLY WWE can give the fans a Rumble winner that they'd approve of (as opposed to Reigns and Batista the last 2 years and arguably Cena, Sheamus, ADR the years prior).
Will Mysterio's longest ring time record of 1:02:12 be broken?
Yes +450
No -750
If Lesnar wins...I doubt he'll be in the match for that long.
First time Royal Rumble Winner +350
Previous RR Winner -530
Lesnar has won in the past.
Will a wrestler be eliminated within 60 seconds of his entrance?
Yes -530
No +350
Usually it happens and, again, if Lesnar is in it then I'm sure he'll dominate whoever comes in after him (unless he's #30, of course).
Then there's a bunch of props on what entrant will win (1-30).
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Although it's 3 weeks away, they already have some props for the Rumble match.
Lesnar Wins +150
Field -190
The plan for Reigns was when he won the title, he would surpass Punk's past reign for longest title holder in the "common era." What better match for him then by beating Lesnar at WM? With so many injuries to big named guys, nobody else really makes sense. And FINALLY WWE can give the fans a Rumble winner that they'd approve of (as opposed to Reigns and Batista the last 2 years and arguably Cena, Sheamus, ADR the years prior).
Will Mysterio's longest ring time record of 1:02:12 be broken?
Yes +450
No -750
If Lesnar wins...I doubt he'll be in the match for that long.
First time Royal Rumble Winner +350
Previous RR Winner -530
Lesnar has won in the past.
Will a wrestler be eliminated within 60 seconds of his entrance?
Yes -530
No +350
Usually it happens and, again, if Lesnar is in it then I'm sure he'll dominate whoever comes in after him (unless he's #30, of course).
Then there's a bunch of props on what entrant will win (1-30).
The plan for Reigns was when he won the title, he would surpass Punk's past reign for longest title holder in the "common era." What better match for him then by beating Lesnar at WM? With so many injuries to big named guys, nobody else really makes sense. And FINALLY WWE can give the fans a Rumble winner that they'd approve of (as opposed to Reigns and Batista the last 2 years and arguably Cena, Sheamus, ADR the years prior).
I have some insiders in the WWE and have not heard that whatsoever. Not really sure where you heard that, but don't believe it at all. Don't be surprised if he loses the title to Lesnar at the Rumble.
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Lesnar Wins +150
Field -190
The plan for Reigns was when he won the title, he would surpass Punk's past reign for longest title holder in the "common era." What better match for him then by beating Lesnar at WM? With so many injuries to big named guys, nobody else really makes sense. And FINALLY WWE can give the fans a Rumble winner that they'd approve of (as opposed to Reigns and Batista the last 2 years and arguably Cena, Sheamus, ADR the years prior).
I have some insiders in the WWE and have not heard that whatsoever. Not really sure where you heard that, but don't believe it at all. Don't be surprised if he loses the title to Lesnar at the Rumble.
The plan for Reigns was when he won the title, he would surpass Punk's past reign for longest title holder in the "common era." What better match for him then by beating Lesnar at WM? With so many injuries to big named guys, nobody else really makes sense. And FINALLY WWE can give the fans a Rumble winner that they'd approve of (as opposed to Reigns and Batista the last 2 years and arguably Cena, Sheamus, ADR the years prior).
I have some insiders in the WWE and have not heard that whatsoever. Not really sure where you heard that, but don't believe it at all. Don't be surprised if he loses the title to Lesnar at the Rumble.
If you have insiders, tell us who is going to win the Rumble!!!
@Sparky - good OP
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Quote Originally Posted by PapaShango:
Lesnar Wins +150
Field -190
The plan for Reigns was when he won the title, he would surpass Punk's past reign for longest title holder in the "common era." What better match for him then by beating Lesnar at WM? With so many injuries to big named guys, nobody else really makes sense. And FINALLY WWE can give the fans a Rumble winner that they'd approve of (as opposed to Reigns and Batista the last 2 years and arguably Cena, Sheamus, ADR the years prior).
I have some insiders in the WWE and have not heard that whatsoever. Not really sure where you heard that, but don't believe it at all. Don't be surprised if he loses the title to Lesnar at the Rumble.
If you have insiders, tell us who is going to win the Rumble!!!
Shango: It's what I heard before Rollins went down and I believe it since Reigns is their guy and the crowd is finally getting behind him so it makes sense.
Randy: He is still wrestling but not in WWE. He holds to record for the longest time spent in a Rumble match so the bet is "will a wrestler surpass his record long time."
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Shango: It's what I heard before Rollins went down and I believe it since Reigns is their guy and the crowd is finally getting behind him so it makes sense.
Randy: He is still wrestling but not in WWE. He holds to record for the longest time spent in a Rumble match so the bet is "will a wrestler surpass his record long time."
The only problem with Reigns v Lesnar at WM is that it's ANOTHER 2 month build up to the same match as they had last year. But it should make for a great match.
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The only problem with Reigns v Lesnar at WM is that it's ANOTHER 2 month build up to the same match as they had last year. But it should make for a great match.
The only problem with Reigns v Lesnar at WM is that it's ANOTHER 2 month build up to the same match as they had last year. But it should make for a great match.
They did it with Rock cena 2 for nearly12 months! 2 months wouldn't shock me!
The problem is you can't put Reigns over Lesnar there. The crowd would turn on him like the last rumble.
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Quote Originally Posted by Sparky10191:
The only problem with Reigns v Lesnar at WM is that it's ANOTHER 2 month build up to the same match as they had last year. But it should make for a great match.
They did it with Rock cena 2 for nearly12 months! 2 months wouldn't shock me!
The problem is you can't put Reigns over Lesnar there. The crowd would turn on him like the last rumble.
They did it with Rock cena 2 for nearly12 months! 2 months wouldn't shock me!
The problem is you can't put Reigns over Lesnar there. The crowd would turn on him like the last rumble.
Good point on Rock and Cena but you coulda said the same about the crowd turning on Cena if he beat Rock but sometimes you just have to do what you have to do. It's inevitable that they will face each other and the crowd will be on Lesnar's side whether it's this WM or next year's WM. And Reigns was supposed to beat Lesnar this year until they threw Rollins into the match. Will they take another WM win away from Reigns?
And in 2 years, just put The Shield in a Triple Threat match at WM and have Lesnar face Rock and nobody will care about this.
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Quote Originally Posted by scalabrine:
They did it with Rock cena 2 for nearly12 months! 2 months wouldn't shock me!
The problem is you can't put Reigns over Lesnar there. The crowd would turn on him like the last rumble.
Good point on Rock and Cena but you coulda said the same about the crowd turning on Cena if he beat Rock but sometimes you just have to do what you have to do. It's inevitable that they will face each other and the crowd will be on Lesnar's side whether it's this WM or next year's WM. And Reigns was supposed to beat Lesnar this year until they threw Rollins into the match. Will they take another WM win away from Reigns?
And in 2 years, just put The Shield in a Triple Threat match at WM and have Lesnar face Rock and nobody will care about this.
I was at the house show here in Toronto on December 30th. Im always impressed with the athleticism when i see it live. Neville was really cool to see live.
Is there anyway Rollins comes back for the Rumble? You could have him win and face Roman at Wrestlemania. That two month hype would be awesome. Is Orton going to be back for Wrestlemania? I would like to see him and Lesnar have a match.
What are the plans for the Wyatts? Round 2 with Cena? Also will Jericho feud with Ambrose. They sort of had a falling out a couple of PPVS ago.
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I was at the house show here in Toronto on December 30th. Im always impressed with the athleticism when i see it live. Neville was really cool to see live.
Is there anyway Rollins comes back for the Rumble? You could have him win and face Roman at Wrestlemania. That two month hype would be awesome. Is Orton going to be back for Wrestlemania? I would like to see him and Lesnar have a match.
What are the plans for the Wyatts? Round 2 with Cena? Also will Jericho feud with Ambrose. They sort of had a falling out a couple of PPVS ago.
Good point on Rock and Cena but you coulda said the same about the crowd turning on Cena if he beat Rock but sometimes you just have to do what you have to do. It's inevitable that they will face each other and the crowd will be on Lesnar's side whether it's this WM or next year's WM. And Reigns was supposed to beat Lesnar this year until they threw Rollins into the match. Will they take another WM win away from Reigns?
And in 2 years, just put The Shield in a Triple Threat match at WM and have Lesnar face Rock and nobody will care about this.
Can't have Lesnar take the fall IMO. It would be another disaster. Give the title toe Lesnar and then have Rollins come back in several months and take it from him.
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Quote Originally Posted by Sparky10191:
Good point on Rock and Cena but you coulda said the same about the crowd turning on Cena if he beat Rock but sometimes you just have to do what you have to do. It's inevitable that they will face each other and the crowd will be on Lesnar's side whether it's this WM or next year's WM. And Reigns was supposed to beat Lesnar this year until they threw Rollins into the match. Will they take another WM win away from Reigns?
And in 2 years, just put The Shield in a Triple Threat match at WM and have Lesnar face Rock and nobody will care about this.
Can't have Lesnar take the fall IMO. It would be another disaster. Give the title toe Lesnar and then have Rollins come back in several months and take it from him.
I was at the house show here in Toronto on December 30th. Im always impressed with the athleticism when i see it live. Neville was really cool to see live.
Is there anyway Rollins comes back for the Rumble? You could have him win and face Roman at Wrestlemania. That two month hype would be awesome. Is Orton going to be back for Wrestlemania? I would like to see him and Lesnar have a match.
What are the plans for the Wyatts? Round 2 with Cena? Also will Jericho feud with Ambrose. They sort of had a falling out a couple of PPVS ago.
Neville really has incredible body control, as does Apollo Crews who will eventually be called up but he's still new.
As for Rollins and Orton...neither will be back for the WM and Orton should be back before Rollins but still not in time. Rollins tore his ACL, MCL and meniscus so he's out 6-9 months as of November.
The Wyatt's are a crap shoot. Right now, the best thing for them would be to feud with The League of Nations. They need a legit faction v faction for them, but I have no idea where they plan to go and when they'll eventually turn Bray face.
As for Jericho, I'd say he makes a surprise appearance at the Rumble but he's too touch and go.
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Quote Originally Posted by ELDubarino:
I was at the house show here in Toronto on December 30th. Im always impressed with the athleticism when i see it live. Neville was really cool to see live.
Is there anyway Rollins comes back for the Rumble? You could have him win and face Roman at Wrestlemania. That two month hype would be awesome. Is Orton going to be back for Wrestlemania? I would like to see him and Lesnar have a match.
What are the plans for the Wyatts? Round 2 with Cena? Also will Jericho feud with Ambrose. They sort of had a falling out a couple of PPVS ago.
Neville really has incredible body control, as does Apollo Crews who will eventually be called up but he's still new.
As for Rollins and Orton...neither will be back for the WM and Orton should be back before Rollins but still not in time. Rollins tore his ACL, MCL and meniscus so he's out 6-9 months as of November.
The Wyatt's are a crap shoot. Right now, the best thing for them would be to feud with The League of Nations. They need a legit faction v faction for them, but I have no idea where they plan to go and when they'll eventually turn Bray face.
As for Jericho, I'd say he makes a surprise appearance at the Rumble but he's too touch and go.
Reading more and more on the web and it wouldn't be a bad idea to have HHH win the Rumble and then have Roman beat the entire corporation at WM to increase his legitimacy as Champ.
Also reading:
Cena/Reigns - I'm afraid they are going to do this.
I want to put a bet in on Lesnar at +150 on 5Dimes to win the Rumble but when I think about it more and more, Reigns would be the crowd heel and they have been trying to earn pops for Reigns week after week. Why throw it all away against Lesnar who would be a face with the crowd?
But would fans be content with Cena/Reigns??? That is, would they cheer Cena winning the Rumble (because there is a lot riding on this Rumble in terms of fan reaction...I love Lesnar in that regard as a "give back" to the fans after last year).
Still haven't bet it though...
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Reading more and more on the web and it wouldn't be a bad idea to have HHH win the Rumble and then have Roman beat the entire corporation at WM to increase his legitimacy as Champ.
Also reading:
Cena/Reigns - I'm afraid they are going to do this.
I want to put a bet in on Lesnar at +150 on 5Dimes to win the Rumble but when I think about it more and more, Reigns would be the crowd heel and they have been trying to earn pops for Reigns week after week. Why throw it all away against Lesnar who would be a face with the crowd?
But would fans be content with Cena/Reigns??? That is, would they cheer Cena winning the Rumble (because there is a lot riding on this Rumble in terms of fan reaction...I love Lesnar in that regard as a "give back" to the fans after last year).
Reading more and more on the web and it wouldn't be a bad idea to have HHH win the Rumble and then have Roman beat the entire corporation at WM to increase his legitimacy as Champ.
Also reading:
Cena/Reigns - I'm afraid they are going to do this.
I want to put a bet in on Lesnar at +150 on 5Dimes to win the Rumble but when I think about it more and more, Reigns would be the crowd heel and they have been trying to earn pops for Reigns week after week. Why throw it all away against Lesnar who would be a face with the crowd?
But would fans be content with Cena/Reigns??? That is, would they cheer Cena winning the Rumble (because there is a lot riding on this Rumble in terms of fan reaction...I love Lesnar in that regard as a "give back" to the fans after last year).
Still haven't bet it though...
Interesting theory for Triple H. I could see that as a possibility. However...I can't see a build up for 2 months between them considering Triple H has the power to simply insert himself in a match against Reigns at WM if he wanted to. It makes Reigns' title defense at whatever PPV that's between the Rumble and WM absolutely pointless.
As for Cena v Reigns...it would suck but it's another way to get the crowd on Reigns' side. But those are the 2 guys rumored to face Lesnar so where would that leave him?
The only problem I see with Lesnar is that he's not under the Authorities' thumb and Reigns v The Authority seems destined to continue for a while a Triple H v Reigns is inevitable. But with that said...he can beat Sheamus at RR and Triple H at the next PPV.
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Quote Originally Posted by scalabrine:
Reading more and more on the web and it wouldn't be a bad idea to have HHH win the Rumble and then have Roman beat the entire corporation at WM to increase his legitimacy as Champ.
Also reading:
Cena/Reigns - I'm afraid they are going to do this.
I want to put a bet in on Lesnar at +150 on 5Dimes to win the Rumble but when I think about it more and more, Reigns would be the crowd heel and they have been trying to earn pops for Reigns week after week. Why throw it all away against Lesnar who would be a face with the crowd?
But would fans be content with Cena/Reigns??? That is, would they cheer Cena winning the Rumble (because there is a lot riding on this Rumble in terms of fan reaction...I love Lesnar in that regard as a "give back" to the fans after last year).
Still haven't bet it though...
Interesting theory for Triple H. I could see that as a possibility. However...I can't see a build up for 2 months between them considering Triple H has the power to simply insert himself in a match against Reigns at WM if he wanted to. It makes Reigns' title defense at whatever PPV that's between the Rumble and WM absolutely pointless.
As for Cena v Reigns...it would suck but it's another way to get the crowd on Reigns' side. But those are the 2 guys rumored to face Lesnar so where would that leave him?
The only problem I see with Lesnar is that he's not under the Authorities' thumb and Reigns v The Authority seems destined to continue for a while a Triple H v Reigns is inevitable. But with that said...he can beat Sheamus at RR and Triple H at the next PPV.
It would make sense for Reigns to win now that he has to to keep the title and stick it to the Authority "against all odds" and then make for a Reigns v Triple H match at WM.
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Lesnar +250
Field -350
It would make sense for Reigns to win now that he has to to keep the title and stick it to the Authority "against all odds" and then make for a Reigns v Triple H match at WM.
Brock Lesnar is going to win. It’s the boring WWE way. It’s safe and predictable.
If I was in charge, I’d have Dean Ambrose stab Roman Reigns in the back. I’d make Brock Lesnar come out as number 29 and Dean Ambrose as number 30. Reigns and Ambrose would fist pump in the ring and join up to double team the beast Brock Lesnar.
Reigns and Ambrose would get Lesnar on top of the ropes and have him holding on for dear life. As it appears Lesnar is about to be eliminated, Ambrose throws Reigns over the top rope with Lesnar to become the new WWE World Heavyweight Champion.
That’s how I would end this year’s Royal Rumble. The lunatic fringe as the new champ.
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Brock Lesnar is going to win. It’s the boring WWE way. It’s safe and predictable.
If I was in charge, I’d have Dean Ambrose stab Roman Reigns in the back. I’d make Brock Lesnar come out as number 29 and Dean Ambrose as number 30. Reigns and Ambrose would fist pump in the ring and join up to double team the beast Brock Lesnar.
Reigns and Ambrose would get Lesnar on top of the ropes and have him holding on for dear life. As it appears Lesnar is about to be eliminated, Ambrose throws Reigns over the top rope with Lesnar to become the new WWE World Heavyweight Champion.
That’s how I would end this year’s Royal Rumble. The lunatic fringe as the new champ.
Brock Lesnar is going to win. It’s the boring WWE way. It’s safe and predictable.
If I was in charge, I’d have Dean Ambrose stab Roman Reigns in the back. I’d make Brock Lesnar come out as number 29 and Dean Ambrose as number 30. Reigns and Ambrose would fist pump in the ring and join up to double team the beast Brock Lesnar.
Reigns and Ambrose would get Lesnar on top of the ropes and have him holding on for dear life. As it appears Lesnar is about to be eliminated, Ambrose throws Reigns over the top rope with Lesnar to become the new WWE World Heavyweight Champion.
That’s how I would end this year’s Royal Rumble. The lunatic fringe as the new champ.
The reason why sparky said Lesnar is not going to win is because wrestling odds, particularly chalk, is an accurate predictor of the true outcome. Someone likely leaked the winner and there is steam betting.
Still I'd like to see Lesnar win but the odds sparky have completely scared me away from such a bet.
Having said that, I have seen -350 odds flip many times. Anything around -1000 almost never comes down. (Although I believe Sting was -900 over HHH at WM and those odds flipped heavily to triple H before the match).
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Quote Originally Posted by MoneySRH:
Brock Lesnar is going to win. It’s the boring WWE way. It’s safe and predictable.
If I was in charge, I’d have Dean Ambrose stab Roman Reigns in the back. I’d make Brock Lesnar come out as number 29 and Dean Ambrose as number 30. Reigns and Ambrose would fist pump in the ring and join up to double team the beast Brock Lesnar.
Reigns and Ambrose would get Lesnar on top of the ropes and have him holding on for dear life. As it appears Lesnar is about to be eliminated, Ambrose throws Reigns over the top rope with Lesnar to become the new WWE World Heavyweight Champion.
That’s how I would end this year’s Royal Rumble. The lunatic fringe as the new champ.
The reason why sparky said Lesnar is not going to win is because wrestling odds, particularly chalk, is an accurate predictor of the true outcome. Someone likely leaked the winner and there is steam betting.
Still I'd like to see Lesnar win but the odds sparky have completely scared me away from such a bet.
Having said that, I have seen -350 odds flip many times. Anything around -1000 almost never comes down. (Although I believe Sting was -900 over HHH at WM and those odds flipped heavily to triple H before the match).
The reason why sparky said Lesnar is not going to win is because wrestling odds, particularly chalk, is an accurate predictor of the true outcome. Someone likely leaked the winner and there is steam betting.
Still I'd like to see Lesnar win but the odds sparky have completely scared me away from such a bet.
Having said that, I have seen -350 odds flip many times. Anything around -1000 almost never comes down. (Although I believe Sting was -900 over HHH at WM and those odds flipped heavily to triple H before the match).
Most likely to win Brock Lesnar Triple H The Rock Roman Reigns
Might possibly win but not likely Sheamus Alberto Del Rio Kevin Owens
Would be awesome but no chance in hell Dean Ambrose Bray Wyatt Samoa Joe Dolph Ziggler The Undertaker Braun Strowman
Scalabrine, It’s clear that Brock Lesnar is the safest way to go. Everyone knows that Triple H has a massive ego. He loves to interject himself into the spotlight. It wouldn’t surprise me at all if McMahon gives his son in law the title one last time. I really seriously doubt it, though. McMahon could in an act of desperation give the Rock the title. It feels wrong to have the Rock just swoop in and win the title. The odds are highly unlikely this happens.
I just can’t see McMahon letting Reigns retain the title. The amount of boos could be deafening. Although, we all know that McMahon loves to stick it to the fans. My gut tells me that McMahon is handing over the belt to Lesnar and is going to force feed the fans Lesnar vs. Reigns at Wrestlemania 32. It’s the boring… safe and simple approach. My money is on Lesnar.
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Quote Originally Posted by scalabrine:
The reason why sparky said Lesnar is not going to win is because wrestling odds, particularly chalk, is an accurate predictor of the true outcome. Someone likely leaked the winner and there is steam betting.
Still I'd like to see Lesnar win but the odds sparky have completely scared me away from such a bet.
Having said that, I have seen -350 odds flip many times. Anything around -1000 almost never comes down. (Although I believe Sting was -900 over HHH at WM and those odds flipped heavily to triple H before the match).
Most likely to win Brock Lesnar Triple H The Rock Roman Reigns
Might possibly win but not likely Sheamus Alberto Del Rio Kevin Owens
Would be awesome but no chance in hell Dean Ambrose Bray Wyatt Samoa Joe Dolph Ziggler The Undertaker Braun Strowman
Scalabrine, It’s clear that Brock Lesnar is the safest way to go. Everyone knows that Triple H has a massive ego. He loves to interject himself into the spotlight. It wouldn’t surprise me at all if McMahon gives his son in law the title one last time. I really seriously doubt it, though. McMahon could in an act of desperation give the Rock the title. It feels wrong to have the Rock just swoop in and win the title. The odds are highly unlikely this happens.
I just can’t see McMahon letting Reigns retain the title. The amount of boos could be deafening. Although, we all know that McMahon loves to stick it to the fans. My gut tells me that McMahon is handing over the belt to Lesnar and is going to force feed the fans Lesnar vs. Reigns at Wrestlemania 32. It’s the boring… safe and simple approach. My money is on Lesnar.
Plans for Cena were apparently to have him face Undertaker or Reigns and they're now planning WM under the assumption that he definitely won't be a part of him.
And WWE is probably pisssed off at Daniel Bryan right now because he retweeted their article about AJ Styles, Shinsuke Nakamura, Karl Anderson and Doc Gallows possibly signing with WWE and then tweeted "Can WWE clear me already?!!!"
It's that time of year again for DB to be "healthy" for the Rumble and having the fans turn on Reigns because DB isn't the one to win it. I wonder if all these injuries will force their hand and let DB compete.
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Plans for Cena were apparently to have him face Undertaker or Reigns and they're now planning WM under the assumption that he definitely won't be a part of him.
And WWE is probably pisssed off at Daniel Bryan right now because he retweeted their article about AJ Styles, Shinsuke Nakamura, Karl Anderson and Doc Gallows possibly signing with WWE and then tweeted "Can WWE clear me already?!!!"
It's that time of year again for DB to be "healthy" for the Rumble and having the fans turn on Reigns because DB isn't the one to win it. I wonder if all these injuries will force their hand and let DB compete.
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