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    Posted: Jan. 7, 2016 - 2:28 PM ET #26

    Interesting Fact...all wrestlers who left last year's WM as a champion is currently out with an injury.

    World Heavyweight: Seth Rollins
    United States: John Cena
    Intercontinental: Daniel Bryan
    Divas: Nikki Bella
    Tag Team: Cesaro & Tyson Kidd
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    Interesting Fact...all wrestlers who left last year's WM as a champion is currently out with an injury.

    World Heavyweight: Seth Rollins
    United States: John Cena
    Intercontinental: Daniel Bryan
    Divas: Nikki Bella
    Tag Team: Cesaro & Tyson Kidd
     
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    Posted: Jan. 7, 2016 - 3:58 PM ET #27

    Quote Originally Posted by Sparky10191:

    Plans for Cena were apparently to have him face Undertaker or Reigns and they're now planning WM under the assumption that he definitely won't be a part of him.

    And WWE is probably pisssed off at Daniel Bryan right now because he retweeted their article about AJ Styles, Shinsuke Nakamura, Karl Anderson and Doc Gallows possibly signing with WWE and then tweeted "Can WWE clear me already?!!!"

    It's that time of year again for DB to be "healthy" for the Rumble and having the fans turn on Reigns because DB isn't the one to win it. I wonder if all these injuries will force their hand and let DB compete.

    WWE tweeted, instagramed, and put it on their website way before Bryan posted that.  
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sparky10191:

    Plans for Cena were apparently to have him face Undertaker or Reigns and they're now planning WM under the assumption that he definitely won't be a part of him.

    And WWE is probably pisssed off at Daniel Bryan right now because he retweeted their article about AJ Styles, Shinsuke Nakamura, Karl Anderson and Doc Gallows possibly signing with WWE and then tweeted "Can WWE clear me already?!!!"

    It's that time of year again for DB to be "healthy" for the Rumble and having the fans turn on Reigns because DB isn't the one to win it. I wonder if all these injuries will force their hand and let DB compete.

    WWE tweeted, instagramed, and put it on their website way before Bryan posted that.  
     
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    Posted: Jan. 7, 2016 - 4:23 PM ET #28

    Quote Originally Posted by PapaShango:


    WWE tweeted, instagramed, and put it on their website way before Bryan posted that.  

    I wasn't referring to the news. Obviously, if he's retweeting it he's not spoiling anything. I'm referring to him tweeting "Can WWE clear me already?!!!"

    He just went to the public saying he's healthy and ready to go and it's WWE holding him back.

    I wonder if the fans will hijack the Rumble.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PapaShango:


    WWE tweeted, instagramed, and put it on their website way before Bryan posted that.  

    I wasn't referring to the news. Obviously, if he's retweeting it he's not spoiling anything. I'm referring to him tweeting "Can WWE clear me already?!!!"

    He just went to the public saying he's healthy and ready to go and it's WWE holding him back.

    I wonder if the fans will hijack the Rumble.
     
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    Posted: Jan. 7, 2016 - 4:43 PM ET #29

    What i can't understand, is why Cena is taking such a chance in damaging himself. I consider, as do many others, him one of the finest actors performing today. And he makes so many important films, with issues that are confronting society today, that him risking life and limb in such a dangerous event as the Royal Rumble has me confused and nervous. What John Cena contributes is too important.
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    What i can't understand, is why Cena is taking such a chance in damaging himself. I consider, as do many others, him one of the finest actors performing today. And he makes so many important films, with issues that are confronting society today, that him risking life and limb in such a dangerous event as the Royal Rumble has me confused and nervous. What John Cena contributes is too important.
     
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    Posted: Jan. 8, 2016 - 8:28 PM ET #30

    Quote Originally Posted by MoneySRH:

    Most likely to win
    Brock Lesnar
    Triple H
    The Rock
    Roman Reigns

    Might possibly win but not likely
    Sheamus
    Alberto Del Rio
    Kevin Owens

    Would be awesome but no chance in hell
    Dean Ambrose
    Bray Wyatt
    Samoa Joe
    Dolph Ziggler
    The Undertaker
    Braun Strowman

    Scalabrine, It’s clear that Brock Lesnar is the safest way to go. Everyone knows that Triple H has a massive ego. He loves to interject himself into the spotlight. It wouldn’t surprise me at all if McMahon gives his son in law the title one last time. I really seriously doubt it, though. McMahon could in an act of desperation give the Rock the title. It feels wrong to have the Rock just swoop in and win the title. The odds are highly unlikely this happens.

    I just can’t see McMahon letting Reigns retain the title. The amount of boos could be deafening. Although, we all know that McMahon loves to stick it to the fans. My gut tells me that McMahon is handing over the belt to Lesnar and is going to force feed the fans Lesnar vs. Reigns at Wrestlemania 32. It’s the boring… safe and simple approach. My money is on Lesnar.


    I agree Reigns will not win the title.

    It's just that the odds swung a bit to the field as of late which points to someone other than Lesnar.

    Although I will say this and I want to reiterate it: WWE owes the fans a Rumble Refund after last year's debacle. Lesnar would be the perfect refund.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MoneySRH:

    Most likely to win
    Brock Lesnar
    Triple H
    The Rock
    Roman Reigns

    Might possibly win but not likely
    Sheamus
    Alberto Del Rio
    Kevin Owens

    Would be awesome but no chance in hell
    Dean Ambrose
    Bray Wyatt
    Samoa Joe
    Dolph Ziggler
    The Undertaker
    Braun Strowman

    Scalabrine, It’s clear that Brock Lesnar is the safest way to go. Everyone knows that Triple H has a massive ego. He loves to interject himself into the spotlight. It wouldn’t surprise me at all if McMahon gives his son in law the title one last time. I really seriously doubt it, though. McMahon could in an act of desperation give the Rock the title. It feels wrong to have the Rock just swoop in and win the title. The odds are highly unlikely this happens.

    I just can’t see McMahon letting Reigns retain the title. The amount of boos could be deafening. Although, we all know that McMahon loves to stick it to the fans. My gut tells me that McMahon is handing over the belt to Lesnar and is going to force feed the fans Lesnar vs. Reigns at Wrestlemania 32. It’s the boring… safe and simple approach. My money is on Lesnar.


    I agree Reigns will not win the title.

    It's just that the odds swung a bit to the field as of late which points to someone other than Lesnar.

    Although I will say this and I want to reiterate it: WWE owes the fans a Rumble Refund after last year's debacle. Lesnar would be the perfect refund.
     
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    Posted: Jan. 8, 2016 - 8:30 PM ET #31

    Quote Originally Posted by Sparky10191:

    Interesting Fact...all wrestlers who left last year's WM as a champion is currently out with an injury.

    World Heavyweight: Seth Rollins
    United States: John Cena
    Intercontinental: Daniel Bryan
    Divas: Nikki Bella
    Tag Team: Cesaro & Tyson Kidd

    Crazy 
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sparky10191:

    Interesting Fact...all wrestlers who left last year's WM as a champion is currently out with an injury.

    World Heavyweight: Seth Rollins
    United States: John Cena
    Intercontinental: Daniel Bryan
    Divas: Nikki Bella
    Tag Team: Cesaro & Tyson Kidd

    Crazy 
     
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    Posted: Jan. 10, 2016 - 2:19 AM ET #32

    Ok ok so Cena is out.

    Reigns in the Rumble which is interesting.

    Now before people were hesitant to bet Brock because of the same WM match two years in a row.

    Would they really have Reigns win it two years in a row especially after the most embarrassing ending to a rumble ever? 

    If he wins, you have one PPV (and it is usually a meaningless one like 'fast lane') to develop a storyline for a contender???

    Gosh is reigns goes over here, Vince is REALLY in control behind the scenes.

    Forget Brock or HHH.

    Reigns +180
    Field -260

    Is the safest bet now field -260???? I think that has a TON of value given the Rumble last year...and has anyone ever won 2 RR in a row? And even if they have is RR deserving of a legendary push like that in the 2nd biggest PPV of the year...twice???


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    Ok ok so Cena is out.

    Reigns in the Rumble which is interesting.

    Now before people were hesitant to bet Brock because of the same WM match two years in a row.

    Would they really have Reigns win it two years in a row especially after the most embarrassing ending to a rumble ever? 

    If he wins, you have one PPV (and it is usually a meaningless one like 'fast lane') to develop a storyline for a contender???

    Gosh is reigns goes over here, Vince is REALLY in control behind the scenes.

    Forget Brock or HHH.

    Reigns +180
    Field -260

    Is the safest bet now field -260???? I think that has a TON of value given the Rumble last year...and has anyone ever won 2 RR in a row? And even if they have is RR deserving of a legendary push like that in the 2nd biggest PPV of the year...twice???


     
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    Posted: Jan. 10, 2016 - 9:03 AM ET #33

    Quote Originally Posted by scalabrine:


    I agree Reigns will not win the title.

    It's just that the odds swung a bit to the field as of late which points to someone other than Lesnar.

    Although I will say this and I want to reiterate it: WWE owes the fans a Rumble Refund after last year's debacle. Lesnar would be the perfect refund.
    John Cena (injured)
    Sting (injured)
    Seth Rollins (injured)
    Daniel Bryan (injured)
    Randy Orton (injured)
    Cesaro (injured)
    Alberto Del Rio (mid-card)
    Dolph Ziggler (mid-card)
    King Barrett (mid-card)
    The Miz (mid-card)
    Rusev (mid-card)
    Ryback (mid-card)
    Kane (jobber status)
    Big Show (jobber status)
    Mark Henry (jobber status)
    Sheamus (out)
    Dean Ambrose (out)
    The Undertaker (out)
    Chris Jericho (out)
    Kevin Owens (out)

    Sheamus - We just had I Sheamus vs. Roman Reigns at TLC and on Raw. Selling a rematch for Wrestlemania 32 would be a really hard sell.

    Dean Ambrose - I believe he’s a main eventer and would be my choice if I had a say in the decision. I think Ambrose vs. Reigns would be a great Wrestlemania main event. I don’t think Vince looks at him as face of the WWE material.

    The Undertaker - It would be awesome to see the dead man to main event Wrestlemania one last time. I doubt Vince would put the
    Undertaker vs. Roman Reigns. All the work Vince put in to get the fans to cheer on Reigns would go in the toilet.

    Chris Jericho - He’s a wrestling legend that’s upper mid-card part-timer. He always performs for a few months and leaves to work something else. His main event days are over.

    Kevin Owens - He’s been demoted to mid-card status after the Cena feud. No chance in hell that Vince puts him in the main event at Wrestlemania 32.

    1.Brock Lesnar    
    2.Triple H
    3.The Rock
    4.Bray Wyatt
    5.Roman Reigns

    Now the list is down to only five real possibilities. When you say you’re betting the field over Brock Lesnar. You’re betting that the bottom four will possibly win. You’ve already said that you don’t believe Reigns will win, again. And, I agree with you on that. That eliminated it down to three real possibilities.

    Bray Wyatt - Triple H - The Rock

    Bray Wyatt - Wyatt and Reigns have wrestled at Hell in a Cell and Battleground. I don’t think Vince would book another matchup between them.

    Triple H - This is a real possibility. There is already an angle between these two. If Lesnar doesn’t win, my money is on Triple H. This match is extremely marketable.

    The Rock - A match between the Rock and Reigns would put the Rock as face and Reigns as a heel. I think this matchup has a great story line angle. You could really push Reigns over with a win over the Rock at Wrestlemania 32. This match is highly unlikely but it would be interesting.

    It’s going to be Brock Lesnar, Triple H, or The Rock headlining Wrestlemania 32. My money is on Brock Lesnar winning the Royal Rumble and headlining Wrestlemania 32 against the Undertaker or Roman Reigns for the WWE world heavyweight championship. It’s the only two realistically possible matches that will get the most amount of main stream attention.

    Vince needs to get a matchup that will be talked about on Sportscenter, Sportsnation, and Good Morning America etc. By betting on the field over Brock Lesnar, you’re betting that the Rock will win the Royal Rumble. Is that what you’re thinking, Scalabrine?

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    Quote Originally Posted by scalabrine:


    I agree Reigns will not win the title.

    It's just that the odds swung a bit to the field as of late which points to someone other than Lesnar.

    Although I will say this and I want to reiterate it: WWE owes the fans a Rumble Refund after last year's debacle. Lesnar would be the perfect refund.
    John Cena (injured)
    Sting (injured)
    Seth Rollins (injured)
    Daniel Bryan (injured)
    Randy Orton (injured)
    Cesaro (injured)
    Alberto Del Rio (mid-card)
    Dolph Ziggler (mid-card)
    King Barrett (mid-card)
    The Miz (mid-card)
    Rusev (mid-card)
    Ryback (mid-card)
    Kane (jobber status)
    Big Show (jobber status)
    Mark Henry (jobber status)
    Sheamus (out)
    Dean Ambrose (out)
    The Undertaker (out)
    Chris Jericho (out)
    Kevin Owens (out)

    Sheamus - We just had I Sheamus vs. Roman Reigns at TLC and on Raw. Selling a rematch for Wrestlemania 32 would be a really hard sell.

    Dean Ambrose - I believe he’s a main eventer and would be my choice if I had a say in the decision. I think Ambrose vs. Reigns would be a great Wrestlemania main event. I don’t think Vince looks at him as face of the WWE material.

    The Undertaker - It would be awesome to see the dead man to main event Wrestlemania one last time. I doubt Vince would put the
    Undertaker vs. Roman Reigns. All the work Vince put in to get the fans to cheer on Reigns would go in the toilet.

    Chris Jericho - He’s a wrestling legend that’s upper mid-card part-timer. He always performs for a few months and leaves to work something else. His main event days are over.

    Kevin Owens - He’s been demoted to mid-card status after the Cena feud. No chance in hell that Vince puts him in the main event at Wrestlemania 32.

    1.Brock Lesnar    
    2.Triple H
    3.The Rock
    4.Bray Wyatt
    5.Roman Reigns

    Now the list is down to only five real possibilities. When you say you’re betting the field over Brock Lesnar. You’re betting that the bottom four will possibly win. You’ve already said that you don’t believe Reigns will win, again. And, I agree with you on that. That eliminated it down to three real possibilities.

    Bray Wyatt - Triple H - The Rock

    Bray Wyatt - Wyatt and Reigns have wrestled at Hell in a Cell and Battleground. I don’t think Vince would book another matchup between them.

    Triple H - This is a real possibility. There is already an angle between these two. If Lesnar doesn’t win, my money is on Triple H. This match is extremely marketable.

    The Rock - A match between the Rock and Reigns would put the Rock as face and Reigns as a heel. I think this matchup has a great story line angle. You could really push Reigns over with a win over the Rock at Wrestlemania 32. This match is highly unlikely but it would be interesting.

    It’s going to be Brock Lesnar, Triple H, or The Rock headlining Wrestlemania 32. My money is on Brock Lesnar winning the Royal Rumble and headlining Wrestlemania 32 against the Undertaker or Roman Reigns for the WWE world heavyweight championship. It’s the only two realistically possible matches that will get the most amount of main stream attention.

    Vince needs to get a matchup that will be talked about on Sportscenter, Sportsnation, and Good Morning America etc. By betting on the field over Brock Lesnar, you’re betting that the Rock will win the Royal Rumble. Is that what you’re thinking, Scalabrine?

     
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    I can't see a surprise winner being pushed by Vince into the main event at Wrestlemania 32. There's too much money on the line. He has to make sure the wrestlers in the main event at Wrestlemania have worldwide main stream appeal.

    Vince is trying to sell out Cowboys stadium, sell the WWE network, and gain media attention. Vince has a very select few that he trusts. The only wrestlers available that Vince trusts are Brock Lesnar, the Rock, the Undertaker, and Triple H.

    Roman Reigns isn't a big enough name to sell Wrestlemania 32.

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    I can't see a surprise winner being pushed by Vince into the main event at Wrestlemania 32. There's too much money on the line. He has to make sure the wrestlers in the main event at Wrestlemania have worldwide main stream appeal.

    Vince is trying to sell out Cowboys stadium, sell the WWE network, and gain media attention. Vince has a very select few that he trusts. The only wrestlers available that Vince trusts are Brock Lesnar, the Rock, the Undertaker, and Triple H.

    Roman Reigns isn't a big enough name to sell Wrestlemania 32.

     
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    If Roman Reigns does surprisingly win, it's a lock that Brock Lesnar, the Rock, the Undertaker, or Triple H will be one of his opponents at Wrestlemania 32.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MoneySRH:

    John Cena (injured)
    Sting (injured)
    Seth Rollins (injured)
    Daniel Bryan (injured)
    Randy Orton (injured)
    Cesaro (injured)
    Alberto Del Rio (mid-card)
    Dolph Ziggler (mid-card)
    King Barrett (mid-card)
    The Miz (mid-card)
    Rusev (mid-card)
    Ryback (mid-card)
    Kane (jobber status)
    Big Show (jobber status)
    Mark Henry (jobber status)
    Sheamus (out)
    Dean Ambrose (out)
    The Undertaker (out)
    Chris Jericho (out)
    Kevin Owens (out)

    Sheamus - We just had I Sheamus vs. Roman Reigns at TLC and on Raw. Selling a rematch for Wrestlemania 32 would be a really hard sell.

    Dean Ambrose - I believe he’s a main eventer and would be my choice if I had a say in the decision. I think Ambrose vs. Reigns would be a great Wrestlemania main event. I don’t think Vince looks at him as face of the WWE material.

    The Undertaker - It would be awesome to see the dead man to main event Wrestlemania one last time. I doubt Vince would put the
    Undertaker vs. Roman Reigns. All the work Vince put in to get the fans to cheer on Reigns would go in the toilet.

    Chris Jericho - He’s a wrestling legend that’s upper mid-card part-timer. He always performs for a few months and leaves to work something else. His main event days are over.

    Kevin Owens - He’s been demoted to mid-card status after the Cena feud. No chance in hell that Vince puts him in the main event at Wrestlemania 32.

    1.Brock Lesnar    
    2.Triple H
    3.The Rock
    4.Bray Wyatt
    5.Roman Reigns

    Now the list is down to only five real possibilities. When you say you’re betting the field over Brock Lesnar. You’re betting that the bottom four will possibly win. You’ve already said that you don’t believe Reigns will win, again. And, I agree with you on that. That eliminated it down to three real possibilities.

    Bray Wyatt - Triple H - The Rock

    Bray Wyatt - Wyatt and Reigns have wrestled at Hell in a Cell and Battleground. I don’t think Vince would book another matchup between them.

    Triple H - This is a real possibility. There is already an angle between these two. If Lesnar doesn’t win, my money is on Triple H. This match is extremely marketable.

    The Rock - A match between the Rock and Reigns would put the Rock as face and Reigns as a heel. I think this matchup has a great story line angle. You could really push Reigns over with a win over the Rock at Wrestlemania 32. This match is highly unlikely but it would be interesting.

    It’s going to be Brock Lesnar, Triple H, or The Rock headlining Wrestlemania 32. My money is on Brock Lesnar winning the Royal Rumble and headlining Wrestlemania 32 against the Undertaker or Roman Reigns for the WWE world heavyweight championship. It’s the only two realistically possible matches that will get the most amount of main stream attention.

    Vince needs to get a matchup that will be talked about on Sportscenter, Sportsnation, and Good Morning America etc. By betting on the field over Brock Lesnar, you’re betting that the Rock will win the Royal Rumble. Is that what you’re thinking, Scalabrine?


    No, now I'm betting the field over Reigns. If Reigns wins there is no challenger for his title and at -260, I get Brock winning (or the Rock or Triple H)!

    Good post by the way.
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    John Cena (injured)
    Sting (injured)
    Seth Rollins (injured)
    Daniel Bryan (injured)
    Randy Orton (injured)
    Cesaro (injured)
    Alberto Del Rio (mid-card)
    Dolph Ziggler (mid-card)
    King Barrett (mid-card)
    The Miz (mid-card)
    Rusev (mid-card)
    Ryback (mid-card)
    Kane (jobber status)
    Big Show (jobber status)
    Mark Henry (jobber status)
    Sheamus (out)
    Dean Ambrose (out)
    The Undertaker (out)
    Chris Jericho (out)
    Kevin Owens (out)

    Sheamus - We just had I Sheamus vs. Roman Reigns at TLC and on Raw. Selling a rematch for Wrestlemania 32 would be a really hard sell.

    Dean Ambrose - I believe he’s a main eventer and would be my choice if I had a say in the decision. I think Ambrose vs. Reigns would be a great Wrestlemania main event. I don’t think Vince looks at him as face of the WWE material.

    The Undertaker - It would be awesome to see the dead man to main event Wrestlemania one last time. I doubt Vince would put the
    Undertaker vs. Roman Reigns. All the work Vince put in to get the fans to cheer on Reigns would go in the toilet.

    Chris Jericho - He’s a wrestling legend that’s upper mid-card part-timer. He always performs for a few months and leaves to work something else. His main event days are over.

    Kevin Owens - He’s been demoted to mid-card status after the Cena feud. No chance in hell that Vince puts him in the main event at Wrestlemania 32.

    1.Brock Lesnar    
    2.Triple H
    3.The Rock
    4.Bray Wyatt
    5.Roman Reigns

    Now the list is down to only five real possibilities. When you say you’re betting the field over Brock Lesnar. You’re betting that the bottom four will possibly win. You’ve already said that you don’t believe Reigns will win, again. And, I agree with you on that. That eliminated it down to three real possibilities.

    Bray Wyatt - Triple H - The Rock

    Bray Wyatt - Wyatt and Reigns have wrestled at Hell in a Cell and Battleground. I don’t think Vince would book another matchup between them.

    Triple H - This is a real possibility. There is already an angle between these two. If Lesnar doesn’t win, my money is on Triple H. This match is extremely marketable.

    The Rock - A match between the Rock and Reigns would put the Rock as face and Reigns as a heel. I think this matchup has a great story line angle. You could really push Reigns over with a win over the Rock at Wrestlemania 32. This match is highly unlikely but it would be interesting.

    It’s going to be Brock Lesnar, Triple H, or The Rock headlining Wrestlemania 32. My money is on Brock Lesnar winning the Royal Rumble and headlining Wrestlemania 32 against the Undertaker or Roman Reigns for the WWE world heavyweight championship. It’s the only two realistically possible matches that will get the most amount of main stream attention.

    Vince needs to get a matchup that will be talked about on Sportscenter, Sportsnation, and Good Morning America etc. By betting on the field over Brock Lesnar, you’re betting that the Rock will win the Royal Rumble. Is that what you’re thinking, Scalabrine?


    No, now I'm betting the field over Reigns. If Reigns wins there is no challenger for his title and at -260, I get Brock winning (or the Rock or Triple H)!

    Good post by the way.
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by scalabrine:


    No, now I'm betting the field over Reigns. If Reigns wins there is no challenger for his title and at -260, I get Brock winning (or the Rock or Triple H)!

    Good post by the way.
    Thanks. Yeah, that’s the way to go. Reigns has respect now but doesn’t have the star power yet. Brock, the Rock, Triple H, and Undertaker are the only real superstars Vince has at his disposal. I believe Vince wants the belt in the hands of one of his top guys to make the media rounds to sell Wrestlemania 32.

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    No, now I'm betting the field over Reigns. If Reigns wins there is no challenger for his title and at -260, I get Brock winning (or the Rock or Triple H)!

    Good post by the way.
    Thanks. Yeah, that’s the way to go. Reigns has respect now but doesn’t have the star power yet. Brock, the Rock, Triple H, and Undertaker are the only real superstars Vince has at his disposal. I believe Vince wants the belt in the hands of one of his top guys to make the media rounds to sell Wrestlemania 32.

     
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    Why else would Rock be at Mania? To compete in a mid card match, I think not
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    My thoughts and prediction.


    HHH wins Rumble and becomes WWE World Heavyweight Champion


    Mania:

    HHH w/ Authority vs Reigns w/ Rock at ringside for WWE Championship
    Brock vs Bray Wyatt
    Undertaker vs Kevin Owens
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    My thoughts and prediction.


    HHH wins Rumble and becomes WWE World Heavyweight Champion


    Mania:

    HHH w/ Authority vs Reigns w/ Rock at ringside for WWE Championship
    Brock vs Bray Wyatt
    Undertaker vs Kevin Owens
     
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    nasty boyz defeat new day to become the oldest tag team champs ever at Wrestlemania 
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    nasty boyz defeat new day to become the oldest tag team champs ever at Wrestlemania 
     
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    It's been leaked that the WM main event is going to be HHH vs. Reigns, so it's likely that it will be one of them to win. Also, that they want the Royal Rumble to set up a match for Fast Lane to try and increase the PPV's standing, so it looks like it would have to be either HHH or Reigns winning the Rumble then winning their match there to set up WM.

    Also interesting is that after the creative meeting that was held on Monday, Stone Cold alluded that he will be at RR and in some way part of the creative. Rock can't wrestle at WM due to an insurance issue, so we can take him out of the equation.

    One prop I like is Brock Lesnar to eliminate somebody by suplex @ -130. I can definitely see him storming into the ring against a group of guys gunning for him and throwing them out left, right and center.


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    It's been leaked that the WM main event is going to be HHH vs. Reigns, so it's likely that it will be one of them to win. Also, that they want the Royal Rumble to set up a match for Fast Lane to try and increase the PPV's standing, so it looks like it would have to be either HHH or Reigns winning the Rumble then winning their match there to set up WM.

    Also interesting is that after the creative meeting that was held on Monday, Stone Cold alluded that he will be at RR and in some way part of the creative. Rock can't wrestle at WM due to an insurance issue, so we can take him out of the equation.

    One prop I like is Brock Lesnar to eliminate somebody by suplex @ -130. I can definitely see him storming into the ring against a group of guys gunning for him and throwing them out left, right and center.


     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Popo21:

    It's been leaked that the WM main event is going to be HHH vs. Reigns, so it's likely that it will be one of them to win. Also, that they want the Royal Rumble to set up a match for Fast Lane to try and increase the PPV's standing, so it looks like it would have to be either HHH or Reigns winning the Rumble then winning their match there to set up WM.

    Also interesting is that after the creative meeting that was held on Monday, Stone Cold alluded that he will be at RR and in some way part of the creative. Rock can't wrestle at WM due to an insurance issue, so we can take him out of the equation.

    One prop I like is Brock Lesnar to eliminate somebody by suplex @ -130. I can definitely see him storming into the ring against a group of guys gunning for him and throwing them out left, right and center.


    Unless it's Neville, no one would be able to land properly enoughto endure such a bum.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Popo21:

    It's been leaked that the WM main event is going to be HHH vs. Reigns, so it's likely that it will be one of them to win. Also, that they want the Royal Rumble to set up a match for Fast Lane to try and increase the PPV's standing, so it looks like it would have to be either HHH or Reigns winning the Rumble then winning their match there to set up WM.

    Also interesting is that after the creative meeting that was held on Monday, Stone Cold alluded that he will be at RR and in some way part of the creative. Rock can't wrestle at WM due to an insurance issue, so we can take him out of the equation.

    One prop I like is Brock Lesnar to eliminate somebody by suplex @ -130. I can definitely see him storming into the ring against a group of guys gunning for him and throwing them out left, right and center.


    Unless it's Neville, no one would be able to land properly enoughto endure such a bum.
     
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    Reports are that Triple H will face Reigns at WM so Shango is on par there and it makes sense to have The Authority/Rock be in the corners of each considering, if Rock was able to compete, they already had an angle set up to have him face Triple H but since he isn't (like Popo said because of insurance issues), having him involved works.

    I'm still not sure if Triple H wins the Rumble, though. However...I could see Reigns eliminate Lesnar so he has that in his cap but then Triple H eliminates Reigns. But I wonder if he'll eliminate him clean or if it will be a screwjob or if Reigns eliminates Lesnar, Lesnar demolishes him out of anger, and then, since The Authority can do whatever they want, have Triple H be a "31st" entrant and then toss him over and win.

    Popo: I can almost guarantee that'll happen but probably won't lead to an elimination. But maybe he does it to a guy like Kofi and he makes one of those incredible saves by having New Day catch him and put him back up and then get hit off because that is definitely a dangerous move on the landing.

    Scal: I didn't even see you see you comment on the suplex before I gave my input. I think someone would have to be caught/land on someone for it to work so I feel like Kofi or Woods would be the more likely choice. Small guy with the other/Big E there to land on/catch
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    Reports are that Triple H will face Reigns at WM so Shango is on par there and it makes sense to have The Authority/Rock be in the corners of each considering, if Rock was able to compete, they already had an angle set up to have him face Triple H but since he isn't (like Popo said because of insurance issues), having him involved works.

    I'm still not sure if Triple H wins the Rumble, though. However...I could see Reigns eliminate Lesnar so he has that in his cap but then Triple H eliminates Reigns. But I wonder if he'll eliminate him clean or if it will be a screwjob or if Reigns eliminates Lesnar, Lesnar demolishes him out of anger, and then, since The Authority can do whatever they want, have Triple H be a "31st" entrant and then toss him over and win.

    Popo: I can almost guarantee that'll happen but probably won't lead to an elimination. But maybe he does it to a guy like Kofi and he makes one of those incredible saves by having New Day catch him and put him back up and then get hit off because that is definitely a dangerous move on the landing.

    Scal: I didn't even see you see you comment on the suplex before I gave my input. I think someone would have to be caught/land on someone for it to work so I feel like Kofi or Woods would be the more likely choice. Small guy with the other/Big E there to land on/catch
     
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    Comments after Raw tonight if anyone has a change of opinion are welcome.

    I think we're all in agreement Roman cannot win this and if anyone has an opinion contrary to that at this point offer it. 

    I'm putting in the Field -350 over Reigns tonight after Raw if nothing out of the ordinary happens.

    I think that's the best bet by far because the comment above "RR eliminates Lesnar to have that feather in his cap and then RR gets eliminated by HHH" makes the most sense.

    The only problem is putting HHH over at mania. Do you really want RR being a three time WWE champ and headlining mania again? Still it is the most plausible.



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    Comments after Raw tonight if anyone has a change of opinion are welcome.

    I think we're all in agreement Roman cannot win this and if anyone has an opinion contrary to that at this point offer it. 

    I'm putting in the Field -350 over Reigns tonight after Raw if nothing out of the ordinary happens.

    I think that's the best bet by far because the comment above "RR eliminates Lesnar to have that feather in his cap and then RR gets eliminated by HHH" makes the most sense.

    The only problem is putting HHH over at mania. Do you really want RR being a three time WWE champ and headlining mania again? Still it is the most plausible.



     
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    "I think we're all in agreement Roman cannot win this and if anyone has an opinion contrary to that at this point offer it."

    Here's my contrarian opinion. WWE is all in on getting Reigns over, that's no question. What better way to do it than have him win the rumble two years in a row? Isn't that a bragging point for him in promos?

    But more importantly, if the WM Main Event plan is for HHH v. Reigns, isn't the best way to get there with a Reigns win and for HHH to say "no one else can get the title off of him, even in the Rumble, so if you want something done right, you have to do it yourself"? That's a scenario I could totally see playing out, combined with perhaps some kind of handicap match for Roman at Fast Lane.
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    "I think we're all in agreement Roman cannot win this and if anyone has an opinion contrary to that at this point offer it."

    Here's my contrarian opinion. WWE is all in on getting Reigns over, that's no question. What better way to do it than have him win the rumble two years in a row? Isn't that a bragging point for him in promos?

    But more importantly, if the WM Main Event plan is for HHH v. Reigns, isn't the best way to get there with a Reigns win and for HHH to say "no one else can get the title off of him, even in the Rumble, so if you want something done right, you have to do it yourself"? That's a scenario I could totally see playing out, combined with perhaps some kind of handicap match for Roman at Fast Lane.
     
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    I definitely think what kapono said is also possible. Personally, I'm not throwing the option out that Reigns can't win. I think he can.

    Here's where I'm confused. Reigns has gotten the better end of Vince this entire time. Is this all payback for every time Rollins/The Authority screwed Reigns or is this an entirely new story where Vince has to come out on top one of these days? If it's the former, then you can continue to have Reigns win and defy all odds. If it's not, then Reigns won't win the Rumble as The Authority will have finally come out on top with Vince in the storylines.

    Triple H winning the Rumble would definitely bring the surprise factor (albeit not as much to us as regular public) but then that also means he'll have the title through Fast Lane, which is a problem. I think the build up here is enough to let Reigns come out on top "against all odds" and then have him in another "against all odds" type of match at Fast Lane and THEN have Triple H do the whole "if you want something done right, you have to do it yourself" thing.

    I agree with Scal that tonight will be an indicator because Lesnar came out looking the strongest last week and if Reigns comes out looking the strongest here, then that may be concerning for his chances but I could see Raw ending with The Authority being the ones coming out and looking strong and leaving Reigns with the thought that he has "no chance in hell" with so many factors against him. And if Lesnar's only appearance on Raw will be on the pre-show then The Authority could very well do that with The League of Nationals beating him down.

    I think what's more agreeable is that Lesnar will be the one who doesn't win the Rumble. 
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    I definitely think what kapono said is also possible. Personally, I'm not throwing the option out that Reigns can't win. I think he can.

    Here's where I'm confused. Reigns has gotten the better end of Vince this entire time. Is this all payback for every time Rollins/The Authority screwed Reigns or is this an entirely new story where Vince has to come out on top one of these days? If it's the former, then you can continue to have Reigns win and defy all odds. If it's not, then Reigns won't win the Rumble as The Authority will have finally come out on top with Vince in the storylines.

    Triple H winning the Rumble would definitely bring the surprise factor (albeit not as much to us as regular public) but then that also means he'll have the title through Fast Lane, which is a problem. I think the build up here is enough to let Reigns come out on top "against all odds" and then have him in another "against all odds" type of match at Fast Lane and THEN have Triple H do the whole "if you want something done right, you have to do it yourself" thing.

    I agree with Scal that tonight will be an indicator because Lesnar came out looking the strongest last week and if Reigns comes out looking the strongest here, then that may be concerning for his chances but I could see Raw ending with The Authority being the ones coming out and looking strong and leaving Reigns with the thought that he has "no chance in hell" with so many factors against him. And if Lesnar's only appearance on Raw will be on the pre-show then The Authority could very well do that with The League of Nationals beating him down.

    I think what's more agreeable is that Lesnar will be the one who doesn't win the Rumble. 
     
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    Great ending. I didn't expect the Wyatt Family to end it like that. I figured either Lesnar, League of Nations or Roman to end it on top but it makes sense for the Wyatts to end it on top.

    I'm guessing this could lead to a Lesnar v Wyatt feud with him facing Bray at WM. I want to see him F5 Braun Stroman.

    So now I still think Roman wins because he didn't finish the last 2 Raws on top as the odds were indeed against him even though he had the upper hand on Lesnar. It shows that it doesn't matter if he can take out The League of Nations or if he can take out Lesnar because there will always be someone else so he has "no chance in hell" and he'll conquer those odds.
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    Great ending. I didn't expect the Wyatt Family to end it like that. I figured either Lesnar, League of Nations or Roman to end it on top but it makes sense for the Wyatts to end it on top.

    I'm guessing this could lead to a Lesnar v Wyatt feud with him facing Bray at WM. I want to see him F5 Braun Stroman.

    So now I still think Roman wins because he didn't finish the last 2 Raws on top as the odds were indeed against him even though he had the upper hand on Lesnar. It shows that it doesn't matter if he can take out The League of Nations or if he can take out Lesnar because there will always be someone else so he has "no chance in hell" and he'll conquer those odds.
     
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    Why are we not taking out second mortgages and laying it all on "will someone break Rey Mysterio's record time in the Rumble of 1:02:12 -- NO" at -210?

    No way they come close to that, correct? Why am I not parlaying this with a number of other things?

    They wouldn't let Reigns win two in a row, win the Title, AND beat Mysterio's record all in one Rumble,  would they?
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    Why are we not taking out second mortgages and laying it all on "will someone break Rey Mysterio's record time in the Rumble of 1:02:12 -- NO" at -210?

    No way they come close to that, correct? Why am I not parlaying this with a number of other things?

    They wouldn't let Reigns win two in a row, win the Title, AND beat Mysterio's record all in one Rumble,  would they?
     
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by kaponofor3:

    "I think we're all in agreement Roman cannot win this and if anyone has an opinion contrary to that at this point offer it."

    Here's my contrarian opinion. WWE is all in on getting Reigns over, that's no question. What better way to do it than have him win the rumble two years in a row? Isn't that a bragging point for him in promos?

    But more importantly, if the WM Main Event plan is for HHH v. Reigns, isn't the best way to get there with a Reigns win and for HHH to say "no one else can get the title off of him, even in the Rumble, so if you want something done right, you have to do it yourself"? That's a scenario I could totally see playing out, combined with perhaps some kind of handicap match for Roman at Fast Lane.

    Kapono rising from covers ashes like Taker from the mat...

    There is simply no way RR will win after last year's debacle. 

    The heat Roman generated in winning the rumble last year may have been the worst face heat of all time in what is the second biggest PPV of the year every year.

    You are suggesting they HAVE to get Reigns over but why? He already has a remarkable list of accomplishments (not to mention a 2 time wwe title holder and a previous rumble champ).

    He is the face of raw week after week after week in Lesnar's absence. They've done more than enough to push him.

    It's like pushing Cena's face act on us. Adults hate it. We scream for cena to get a fresh start and pull a Hollywood Hogan. Why won't they do it? Merchandise sales among kids!

    Well RR doesn't have that type of pull on the monetary end with kids. And the adults have become more than tired with this current manifestation outside of the Shield.

    Hence with new leadership in HHH, and Vince's old school booking backing off slowly as the years pass, it is only reasonable to bet on the field over RR.

    You have a contrarian opinion Kapono BUT you sure as hell wouldn't take the +200ish now for him to win the Rumble. So from a betting standpoint -350 is an oustanding bet to throw in some progressive parlays.








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    "I think we're all in agreement Roman cannot win this and if anyone has an opinion contrary to that at this point offer it."

    Here's my contrarian opinion. WWE is all in on getting Reigns over, that's no question. What better way to do it than have him win the rumble two years in a row? Isn't that a bragging point for him in promos?

    But more importantly, if the WM Main Event plan is for HHH v. Reigns, isn't the best way to get there with a Reigns win and for HHH to say "no one else can get the title off of him, even in the Rumble, so if you want something done right, you have to do it yourself"? That's a scenario I could totally see playing out, combined with perhaps some kind of handicap match for Roman at Fast Lane.

    Kapono rising from covers ashes like Taker from the mat...

    There is simply no way RR will win after last year's debacle. 

    The heat Roman generated in winning the rumble last year may have been the worst face heat of all time in what is the second biggest PPV of the year every year.

    You are suggesting they HAVE to get Reigns over but why? He already has a remarkable list of accomplishments (not to mention a 2 time wwe title holder and a previous rumble champ).

    He is the face of raw week after week after week in Lesnar's absence. They've done more than enough to push him.

    It's like pushing Cena's face act on us. Adults hate it. We scream for cena to get a fresh start and pull a Hollywood Hogan. Why won't they do it? Merchandise sales among kids!

    Well RR doesn't have that type of pull on the monetary end with kids. And the adults have become more than tired with this current manifestation outside of the Shield.

    Hence with new leadership in HHH, and Vince's old school booking backing off slowly as the years pass, it is only reasonable to bet on the field over RR.

    You have a contrarian opinion Kapono BUT you sure as hell wouldn't take the +200ish now for him to win the Rumble. So from a betting standpoint -350 is an oustanding bet to throw in some progressive parlays.








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