very nice write up and valid points but...
u saw the horrefic trip zenyatta had today IMO we havent even seen her run her fastest Both of the horses looked like they were gonna lose a 1/4 mile to the wire and only one did lose I think she is as fast,strong,brave and willing as she wants to be she is never gonna lose a race at any track against non quaterhorses im sorry im sold Zenyatta is the best horse i ever saw and most likely the best female ever
very nice write up and valid points but...
u saw the horrefic trip zenyatta had today IMO we havent even seen her run her fastest Both of the horses looked like they were gonna lose a 1/4 mile to the wire and only one did lose I think she is as fast,strong,brave and willing as she wants to be she is never gonna lose a race at any track against non quaterhorses im sorry im sold Zenyatta is the best horse i ever saw and most likely the best female ever
- I am a firm believer that no horse can be as efficient on both the dirt and synthetic. No man would ever be able to convince me otherwise.
Than how about a woman. You make valid points but a horse is a horse is a horse. You are just like the others blaming Z for running agaisnt bottom level claimers. You just got your fucking ass handed to you by our second stringer. If RA was not able to run then why run her. Always an excuse from east coast dirt loving freaks. Get over it.
Sorry for my anger but tired of this BS.
PS The Rebel was a fluke.
- I am a firm believer that no horse can be as efficient on both the dirt and synthetic. No man would ever be able to convince me otherwise.
Than how about a woman. You make valid points but a horse is a horse is a horse. You are just like the others blaming Z for running agaisnt bottom level claimers. You just got your fucking ass handed to you by our second stringer. If RA was not able to run then why run her. Always an excuse from east coast dirt loving freaks. Get over it.
Sorry for my anger but tired of this BS.
PS The Rebel was a fluke.
Than how about a woman. You make valid points but a horse is a horse
is a horse. You are just like the others blaming Z for running agaisnt
bottom level claimers. You just got your fucking ass handed to you by
our second stringer. If RA was not able to run then why run her. Always
an excuse from east coast dirt loving freaks. Get over it.
Sorry for
my anger but tired of this BS.
PS The Rebel was a fluke.
Kursh you are a clown. I am not sure what set you off but I have no east coast/west coast bias. Get a life. You must be pissed that you get 5-6 horse fields all day. Yea I bet more on the east coast but they are two different ball games.
Did I ever say Zenyatta sucks? Did I say she is not the best horse on the planet? All I said was she beat a weak field. You ask why race rachel if she wasn't ready well if I threw 5million dollars in your face I'm sure you would do things that you wouldn't normally do. When rachel started training this year Zenyatta was already close to 100%. That is quite an edge. If Rachel raced in the Breeders cup last year I would have bet Zenyatta head to head 10 out of 10 times.
I wouldn't expect anyone to agree with me that rachel is the better horse. She just lost and Zenyatta won easy. Zenyatta is coming off a breeder's cup classic victory. I just think when they get to oaklawn Rachel will be close to 100% fit and the track favors her running style. I also think Zenyatta's closing kick will not be the same over a dirt surface. I'm sure she will run solid but it may not be good enough.
I also think Zenyatta would have lost yesterday to Zardana on a DIRT track but that is my opinion.
"u saw the horrefic trip zenyatta had today IMO we havent even seen her run her fastest Both of the horses looked like they were gonna lose a 1/4 mile to the wire and only one did lose "
-Goes back to the point that Rachel was not 100% fit. Also back to the point Zenyatta was at her favorite track facing a weak field that most good horses could have beat with a troubled trip. I actually thought Rachel was cooked come stretch but she fought her ass off. Zardana was primed to run her biggest race of her life and she did. Oh well.
Than how about a woman. You make valid points but a horse is a horse
is a horse. You are just like the others blaming Z for running agaisnt
bottom level claimers. You just got your fucking ass handed to you by
our second stringer. If RA was not able to run then why run her. Always
an excuse from east coast dirt loving freaks. Get over it.
Sorry for
my anger but tired of this BS.
PS The Rebel was a fluke.
Kursh you are a clown. I am not sure what set you off but I have no east coast/west coast bias. Get a life. You must be pissed that you get 5-6 horse fields all day. Yea I bet more on the east coast but they are two different ball games.
Did I ever say Zenyatta sucks? Did I say she is not the best horse on the planet? All I said was she beat a weak field. You ask why race rachel if she wasn't ready well if I threw 5million dollars in your face I'm sure you would do things that you wouldn't normally do. When rachel started training this year Zenyatta was already close to 100%. That is quite an edge. If Rachel raced in the Breeders cup last year I would have bet Zenyatta head to head 10 out of 10 times.
I wouldn't expect anyone to agree with me that rachel is the better horse. She just lost and Zenyatta won easy. Zenyatta is coming off a breeder's cup classic victory. I just think when they get to oaklawn Rachel will be close to 100% fit and the track favors her running style. I also think Zenyatta's closing kick will not be the same over a dirt surface. I'm sure she will run solid but it may not be good enough.
I also think Zenyatta would have lost yesterday to Zardana on a DIRT track but that is my opinion.
"u saw the horrefic trip zenyatta had today IMO we havent even seen her run her fastest Both of the horses looked like they were gonna lose a 1/4 mile to the wire and only one did lose "
-Goes back to the point that Rachel was not 100% fit. Also back to the point Zenyatta was at her favorite track facing a weak field that most good horses could have beat with a troubled trip. I actually thought Rachel was cooked come stretch but she fought her ass off. Zardana was primed to run her biggest race of her life and she did. Oh well.
Than how about a woman. You make valid points but a horse is a horse is a horse. You are just like the others blaming Z for running agaisnt bottom level claimers. You just got your fucking ass handed to you by our second stringer. If RA was not able to run then why run her. Always an excuse from east coast dirt loving freaks. Get over it.
Sorry for my anger but tired of this BS.
PS The Rebel was a fluke.
Kursh you are a clown. I am not sure what set you off but I have no east coast/west coast bias. Get a life. You must be pissed that you get 5-6 horse fields all day. Yea I bet more on the east coast but they are two different ball games.
Did I ever say Zenyatta sucks? Did I say she is not the best horse on the planet? All I said was she beat a weak field. You ask why race rachel if she wasn't ready well if I threw 5million dollars in your face I'm sure you would do things that you wouldn't normally do. When rachel started training this year Zenyatta was already close to 100%. That is quite an edge. If Rachel raced in the Breeders cup last year I would have bet Zenyatta head to head 10 out of 10 times.
I wouldn't expect anyone to agree with me that rachel is the better horse. She just lost and Zenyatta won easy. Zenyatta is coming off a breeder's cup classic victory. I just think when they get to oaklawn Rachel will be close to 100% fit and the track favors her running style. I also think Zenyatta's closing kick will not be the same over a dirt surface. I'm sure she will run solid but it may not be good enough.
I also think Zenyatta would have lost yesterday to Zardana on a DIRT track but that is my opinion.
"u saw the horrefic trip zenyatta had today IMO we havent even seen her run her fastest Both of the horses looked like they were gonna lose a 1/4 mile to the wire and only one did lose "
-Goes back to the point that Rachel was not 100% fit. Also back to the point Zenyatta was at her favorite track facing a weak field that most good horses could have beat with a troubled trip. I actually thought Rachel was cooked come stretch but she fought her ass off. Zardana was primed to run her biggest race of her life and she did. Oh well.
Zenyetta's racing style won't be as effective on dirt. It is as simple as that.
That being said, I would not be surprised if RA's style will be her undoing with the addition of her added weight. I also would not be surprised if the Apple Blossom or any additional races for RA never happen, sadly.
Than how about a woman. You make valid points but a horse is a horse is a horse. You are just like the others blaming Z for running agaisnt bottom level claimers. You just got your fucking ass handed to you by our second stringer. If RA was not able to run then why run her. Always an excuse from east coast dirt loving freaks. Get over it.
Sorry for my anger but tired of this BS.
PS The Rebel was a fluke.
Kursh you are a clown. I am not sure what set you off but I have no east coast/west coast bias. Get a life. You must be pissed that you get 5-6 horse fields all day. Yea I bet more on the east coast but they are two different ball games.
Did I ever say Zenyatta sucks? Did I say she is not the best horse on the planet? All I said was she beat a weak field. You ask why race rachel if she wasn't ready well if I threw 5million dollars in your face I'm sure you would do things that you wouldn't normally do. When rachel started training this year Zenyatta was already close to 100%. That is quite an edge. If Rachel raced in the Breeders cup last year I would have bet Zenyatta head to head 10 out of 10 times.
I wouldn't expect anyone to agree with me that rachel is the better horse. She just lost and Zenyatta won easy. Zenyatta is coming off a breeder's cup classic victory. I just think when they get to oaklawn Rachel will be close to 100% fit and the track favors her running style. I also think Zenyatta's closing kick will not be the same over a dirt surface. I'm sure she will run solid but it may not be good enough.
I also think Zenyatta would have lost yesterday to Zardana on a DIRT track but that is my opinion.
"u saw the horrefic trip zenyatta had today IMO we havent even seen her run her fastest Both of the horses looked like they were gonna lose a 1/4 mile to the wire and only one did lose "
-Goes back to the point that Rachel was not 100% fit. Also back to the point Zenyatta was at her favorite track facing a weak field that most good horses could have beat with a troubled trip. I actually thought Rachel was cooked come stretch but she fought her ass off. Zardana was primed to run her biggest race of her life and she did. Oh well.
Zenyetta's racing style won't be as effective on dirt. It is as simple as that.
That being said, I would not be surprised if RA's style will be her undoing with the addition of her added weight. I also would not be surprised if the Apple Blossom or any additional races for RA never happen, sadly.
"Zenyetta's racing style won't be as effective on dirt. It is as simple as that.
That being said, I would not be surprised if RA's style will be her undoing with the addition of her added weight. I also would not be surprised if the Apple Blossom or any additional races for RA never happen, sadly."
I won't be surprised either. RA style could very well lead to her undoing but I think we all know she is capable of running 22-23/46/110 and still close with a fury when she is at the top of her game. She just wasn't yesterday.
"Zenyetta's racing style won't be as effective on dirt. It is as simple as that.
That being said, I would not be surprised if RA's style will be her undoing with the addition of her added weight. I also would not be surprised if the Apple Blossom or any additional races for RA never happen, sadly."
I won't be surprised either. RA style could very well lead to her undoing but I think we all know she is capable of running 22-23/46/110 and still close with a fury when she is at the top of her game. She just wasn't yesterday.
dirt beyers are almost always higher then syn beyers so RA 108 on dirt is the same as Z's 104 on syn. quality roads 121 on dirt would never be reached on a syn. especially santa anita
dirt beyers are almost always higher then syn beyers so RA 108 on dirt is the same as Z's 104 on syn. quality roads 121 on dirt would never be reached on a syn. especially santa anita
I been reading the posts on Rachel and Zenyatta, or should I say Zenyatta and Rachel.
All valid thoughts. But it comes down to this: Rachel is in big trouble, not really we are, the horse is done, I wont go into the reason why, but its not the horse fault.
She has maybe 2 races left or maybe one or maybe none. It goes like this one more race to get in shape to run a race against Zenyatta. She must win the prep race to continue on to race TWO, no win, no Z, then it goes downhill from there
The End
I been reading the posts on Rachel and Zenyatta, or should I say Zenyatta and Rachel.
All valid thoughts. But it comes down to this: Rachel is in big trouble, not really we are, the horse is done, I wont go into the reason why, but its not the horse fault.
She has maybe 2 races left or maybe one or maybe none. It goes like this one more race to get in shape to run a race against Zenyatta. She must win the prep race to continue on to race TWO, no win, no Z, then it goes downhill from there
The End
You have nothing to apologize for. You have earned the right to have a very strong opinion in this kind of stuff.
You have nothing to apologize for. You have earned the right to have a very strong opinion in this kind of stuff.
Yeah its something like this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DWTNBRs7Ccs
Thanks DJ
Yeah its something like this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DWTNBRs7Ccs
Thanks DJ
Kursh you are a clown. I am not sure what set you off but I have no east coast/west coast bias. Get a life.
I got a life. I work in the summers at the circus. Lion tamer.
Pretty bold to come out of nowhere and make personal insults. I sure welcome any and all comments. But keep to the horses. Like I said just tired of people beats creampuffs. 15 in a row? Cmon have some respect for my girl. Also I did not just jump on Z`s bandwagon. My friends here know my history.
Kursh you are a clown. I am not sure what set you off but I have no east coast/west coast bias. Get a life.
I got a life. I work in the summers at the circus. Lion tamer.
Pretty bold to come out of nowhere and make personal insults. I sure welcome any and all comments. But keep to the horses. Like I said just tired of people beats creampuffs. 15 in a row? Cmon have some respect for my girl. Also I did not just jump on Z`s bandwagon. My friends here know my history.
A) Rachel didn't look like she wanted to be there, didn't want to race.
B) Zardana was a third stringer in the Zenyatta barn, and on paper (racing form) was lucky to be the third best horse in a 5 horse field. We all know racing is rigged, and the Zenyatta barn was having NOTHING of it. The rest of the field folded, Zardana didn't.
C) Quality Road and Zenyatta race is looking more likely than Rachel/Zenyatta. Top 2 for Horse of The Year right now.
D) Zenyatta was NEVER really going to retire, that was more barn BS trying to get votes for HOY last year. I hope the barn gets their due and gets burned this year for all the BS they're pulling.
E) Rachel of 2009 WILL NEVER BE AGAIN!!! That's a washed up horse. Watch!!
A) Rachel didn't look like she wanted to be there, didn't want to race.
B) Zardana was a third stringer in the Zenyatta barn, and on paper (racing form) was lucky to be the third best horse in a 5 horse field. We all know racing is rigged, and the Zenyatta barn was having NOTHING of it. The rest of the field folded, Zardana didn't.
C) Quality Road and Zenyatta race is looking more likely than Rachel/Zenyatta. Top 2 for Horse of The Year right now.
D) Zenyatta was NEVER really going to retire, that was more barn BS trying to get votes for HOY last year. I hope the barn gets their due and gets burned this year for all the BS they're pulling.
E) Rachel of 2009 WILL NEVER BE AGAIN!!! That's a washed up horse. Watch!!
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