I agree with the Matt Joyce comment because there was some retard on this forum saying that Santos was the best closer in the league cause he hadn't blown a save all year, numbers dont tell the whole story especially 1/3 through the season i like Jurrjens alot but he barely cracks my top 10. Sure he has better numbers right now then the guys up there but lets see him do it consistently.
"I think it’s safe to say that RIGHT NOW he is the best."
All caps and in bold and some people still miss it.
Jurrjens has a 7-1 record and a 1.51 ERA
Doc has a 6-3 record and a 2.35 ERA
Timmy has a 5-4 record and a 2.22 ERA
Felix has a 5-4 record and a 3.19 ERA
The numbers speak for themselves.
How often do pitchers play the exact same opponents the exact same number of times?
All we have is the information available.
Besides, both JJ and Halladay pitch in the NL East. It’s not like one is pitching the AL East and the other is pitching in the NL West.
Josh Collmenter is not qualified.
No, it is not.
It was his attempt at belittling what Jurrjens has done so far this season by saying Halladay would be a better pitcher in game 7 of the WS even though that has nothing to do with this thread.
He is still pissed Jurrjens fucked his Red’s ML bet.
This should end the discussion really.
Using your analogy, this should be true.
Why don't we just put it as he's one of the best to start the season. Why do we have to put a label on it 
There is qualified and there is non-qualified.
Right now, he isn't qualified.
This should end the discussion really.
Using your analogy, this should be true.
Why don't we just put it as he's one of the best to start the season. Why do we have to put a label on it
No, it’s not.
Saying “Jurrjens is the best pitcher in the majors RIGHT NOW” is NOT the same thing as saying “Matt Joyce is the best hitter in the league.”
Halladay's K numbers shit on Jurrjens even if you factor in two less starts and his WHIP and BAA are identical. Jurjenss is money, but is not in the same stratosphere as Halladay. He will regress. These are Doc's normal numbers and he's right there. This is an abnormal 9 game stretch. He had a 4.64 ERA last year. Halladay's was 2.4 and he has only been over 3.2 for a season once in the last ten years. If you want to just say for this season, it is probably Kyle Lohse. He has the same amount of wins as Jurjenns and better WHIP, BAA, K/9. In fact, in 15 more innings, Lohse has given up only 3 more hits and the same amount of homeruns.
So, is Kyle Lohse the best pitcher in baseball? Fuck now. Over a ten game stretch? maybe, but so are a lot of pitchers.
Halladay's K numbers shit on Jurrjens even if you factor in two less starts and his WHIP and BAA are identical. Jurjenss is money, but is not in the same stratosphere as Halladay. He will regress. These are Doc's normal numbers and he's right there. This is an abnormal 9 game stretch. He had a 4.64 ERA last year. Halladay's was 2.4 and he has only been over 3.2 for a season once in the last ten years. If you want to just say for this season, it is probably Kyle Lohse. He has the same amount of wins as Jurjenns and better WHIP, BAA, K/9. In fact, in 15 more innings, Lohse has given up only 3 more hits and the same amount of homeruns.
So, is Kyle Lohse the best pitcher in baseball? Fuck now. Over a ten game stretch? maybe, but so are a lot of pitchers.
Yeah, fuck W/L records and ERA. What really matters is strikeouts. 
IMO, he is overrated. He is great pitcher no doubt, but the way some people talk about him you’d think every time he stepped on the mound it was a guarantee he was throwing a complete game shutout.
Yeah, fuck W/L records and ERA. What really matters is strikeouts.
Established in 1995,
also im from canada so alittle biased
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