So, tonight the
“greatest pitcher on the planet” according to Joe Buck and John Smoltz, gets to
sit on the bench and watch his “unbeatable team” fall to the guys from
Hurricane Central, neither of which has any effect whatsoever on the outcome.
What does affect the outcome is that Justin Verlander is no choker. Instead of
choking on the Big Salami he will slice it, dice it, and consume it in 27 small
bites that chew, swallow and digest much better. The bullpen argument is over,
now that the Dodgers bullpen is no longer playing National League competition.
Their “greatest pitcher on the planet” and bullpen have been shredded and
tossed on the tacos. Dave Roberts grandest dream is that he must figure out
what to do tomorrow, since that would mean his team survived tonight. Don’t
worry about it Dave, tell your wife to go ahead and book the vacation plans. No
conspiracy theory here. Just the better starter (who will probably give them 7
strong), an equal bullpen, and far better offense.
Now, for the guys that
think they know how to read lines and determine which way the sharp or pro
money is going: This line was initially attacked by Astros backers, who drove a
+115 opener all the way to -114, then the public started hammering the Dodgers
and has not stopped. Quite literally, you don’t know which, if either side, the
sharp or pro money has come down on. Sharp and/or pro money bets when it feels the
odds are opportune, not necessarily at the beginning or end of the day. There
is also a lot of money that is no longer wagering the World Series, as laying
or taking odds versus either of the two remaining contenders is dangerous. On a
15 game card in the midst of the season line movement on one particular game is
more significant than it is on a game that is the only action in town in the
World Series and draws out far less pro and sharp money as opposed to the same
amateur money that says “You just HAVE
to bet the Super Bowl!”
BOL
Now and then even a BLIND squirrel can find an acorn
So, tonight the
“greatest pitcher on the planet” according to Joe Buck and John Smoltz, gets to
sit on the bench and watch his “unbeatable team” fall to the guys from
Hurricane Central, neither of which has any effect whatsoever on the outcome.
What does affect the outcome is that Justin Verlander is no choker. Instead of
choking on the Big Salami he will slice it, dice it, and consume it in 27 small
bites that chew, swallow and digest much better. The bullpen argument is over,
now that the Dodgers bullpen is no longer playing National League competition.
Their “greatest pitcher on the planet” and bullpen have been shredded and
tossed on the tacos. Dave Roberts grandest dream is that he must figure out
what to do tomorrow, since that would mean his team survived tonight. Don’t
worry about it Dave, tell your wife to go ahead and book the vacation plans. No
conspiracy theory here. Just the better starter (who will probably give them 7
strong), an equal bullpen, and far better offense.
Now, for the guys that
think they know how to read lines and determine which way the sharp or pro
money is going: This line was initially attacked by Astros backers, who drove a
+115 opener all the way to -114, then the public started hammering the Dodgers
and has not stopped. Quite literally, you don’t know which, if either side, the
sharp or pro money has come down on. Sharp and/or pro money bets when it feels the
odds are opportune, not necessarily at the beginning or end of the day. There
is also a lot of money that is no longer wagering the World Series, as laying
or taking odds versus either of the two remaining contenders is dangerous. On a
15 game card in the midst of the season line movement on one particular game is
more significant than it is on a game that is the only action in town in the
World Series and draws out far less pro and sharp money as opposed to the same
amateur money that says “You just HAVE
to bet the Super Bowl!”
Key I did not get that line,I have +114 I think it was,so now your making up lines since you do not have the WNBA to win the easy ones.Our friend was upset you did not include him on those until the finals,now Houston going to win for you.BOL. When will your other friend chime in here,I miss him already.
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Key I did not get that line,I have +114 I think it was,so now your making up lines since you do not have the WNBA to win the easy ones.Our friend was upset you did not include him on those until the finals,now Houston going to win for you.BOL. When will your other friend chime in here,I miss him already.
It is Astros +122 at my book. Dont think Key is making up anything at all. Like the 49ers, Raiders or Dodgers, vegas is going to get a bunch of public action on a popular west coast team. And there will be people who say well the league will make sure we get 7 games cuz thats what the league wants its all about the money or that last year went to 7 games so this one will too...shutup...
Sip on that plus money honey!
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It is Astros +122 at my book. Dont think Key is making up anything at all. Like the 49ers, Raiders or Dodgers, vegas is going to get a bunch of public action on a popular west coast team. And there will be people who say well the league will make sure we get 7 games cuz thats what the league wants its all about the money or that last year went to 7 games so this one will too...shutup...
First, the Astros bullpen is still nowhere near the category of the Dodgers bullpen. Yes, the Dodgers bullpen has been touched up but they are still far superior. This is no more evident that in the Astros not having a closer they can go to at the moment. Hinch has no confidence in Giles. On the other hand, Roberts still has a lot of trust in Jansen.
Second, you're making Verlander seem like the greatest playoff pitcher of all time. In 2006 and 2011 he did poorly. In 2014 his only playoff start resulted in a loss for the team. Even his game 2 start in this world series would have resulted in a loss 9 out of 10 times if the Dodgers would have been handed that lead over and over again. As it has been shown in this postseason and past ones, no pitcher is unbeatable in the playoffs. It takes a full team effort.
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Key, I disagree with you on few items.
First, the Astros bullpen is still nowhere near the category of the Dodgers bullpen. Yes, the Dodgers bullpen has been touched up but they are still far superior. This is no more evident that in the Astros not having a closer they can go to at the moment. Hinch has no confidence in Giles. On the other hand, Roberts still has a lot of trust in Jansen.
Second, you're making Verlander seem like the greatest playoff pitcher of all time. In 2006 and 2011 he did poorly. In 2014 his only playoff start resulted in a loss for the team. Even his game 2 start in this world series would have resulted in a loss 9 out of 10 times if the Dodgers would have been handed that lead over and over again. As it has been shown in this postseason and past ones, no pitcher is unbeatable in the playoffs. It takes a full team effort.
First, the Astros bullpen is still nowhere near the category of the Dodgers bullpen. Yes, the Dodgers bullpen has been touched up but they are still far superior. This is no more evident that in the Astros not having a closer they can go to at the moment. Hinch has no confidence in Giles. On the other hand, Roberts still has a lot of trust in Jansen.
Second, you're making Verlander seem like the greatest playoff pitcher of all time. In 2006 and 2011 he did poorly. In 2014 his only playoff start resulted in a loss for the team. Even his game 2 start in this world series would have resulted in a loss 9 out of 10 times if the Dodgers would have been handed that lead over and over again. As it has been shown in this postseason and past ones, no pitcher is unbeatable in the playoffs. It takes a full team effort.
Second to last sentence....
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Quote Originally Posted by PlayWithThem:
Key, I disagree with you on few items.
First, the Astros bullpen is still nowhere near the category of the Dodgers bullpen. Yes, the Dodgers bullpen has been touched up but they are still far superior. This is no more evident that in the Astros not having a closer they can go to at the moment. Hinch has no confidence in Giles. On the other hand, Roberts still has a lot of trust in Jansen.
Second, you're making Verlander seem like the greatest playoff pitcher of all time. In 2006 and 2011 he did poorly. In 2014 his only playoff start resulted in a loss for the team. Even his game 2 start in this world series would have resulted in a loss 9 out of 10 times if the Dodgers would have been handed that lead over and over again. As it has been shown in this postseason and past ones, no pitcher is unbeatable in the playoffs. It takes a full team effort.
So, tonight the
“greatest pitcher on the planet” according to Joe Buck and John Smoltz, gets to
sit on the bench and watch his “unbeatable team” fall to the guys from
Hurricane Central, neither of which has any effect whatsoever on the outcome.
What does affect the outcome is that Justin Verlander is no choker. Instead of
choking on the Big Salami he will slice it, dice it, and consume it in 27 small
bites that chew, swallow and digest much better. The bullpen argument is over,
now that the Dodgers bullpen is no longer playing National League competition.
Their “greatest pitcher on the planet” and bullpen have been shredded and
tossed on the tacos. Dave Roberts grandest dream is that he must figure out
what to do tomorrow, since that would mean his team survived tonight. Don’t
worry about it Dave, tell your wife to go ahead and book the vacation plans. No
conspiracy theory here. Just the better starter (who will probably give them 7
strong), an equal bullpen, and far better offense.
Now, for the guys that
think they know how to read lines and determine which way the sharp or pro
money is going: This line was initially attacked by Astros backers, who drove a
+115 opener all the way to -114, then the public started hammering the Dodgers
and has not stopped. Quite literally, you don’t know which, if either side, the
sharp or pro money has come down on. Sharp and/or pro money bets when it feels the
odds are opportune, not necessarily at the beginning or end of the day. There
is also a lot of money that is no longer wagering the World Series, as laying
or taking odds versus either of the two remaining contenders is dangerous. On a
15 game card in the midst of the season line movement on one particular game is
more significant than it is on a game that is the only action in town in the
World Series and draws out far less pro and sharp money as opposed to the same
amateur money that says “You just HAVE
to bet the Super Bowl!”
BOL
OK so I read your post fast... so what you're saying, quite literally if I read between the lines that you are following the sharp or pro money by taking the OVER in the grand salami for the superbowl at 27 if you can get a line between -114 and +115 because Joe Buck and John Smoltz said something about Johnny Bench? ?
I'm not a sports gambler, but I play one on the internet.
So, tonight the
“greatest pitcher on the planet” according to Joe Buck and John Smoltz, gets to
sit on the bench and watch his “unbeatable team” fall to the guys from
Hurricane Central, neither of which has any effect whatsoever on the outcome.
What does affect the outcome is that Justin Verlander is no choker. Instead of
choking on the Big Salami he will slice it, dice it, and consume it in 27 small
bites that chew, swallow and digest much better. The bullpen argument is over,
now that the Dodgers bullpen is no longer playing National League competition.
Their “greatest pitcher on the planet” and bullpen have been shredded and
tossed on the tacos. Dave Roberts grandest dream is that he must figure out
what to do tomorrow, since that would mean his team survived tonight. Don’t
worry about it Dave, tell your wife to go ahead and book the vacation plans. No
conspiracy theory here. Just the better starter (who will probably give them 7
strong), an equal bullpen, and far better offense.
Now, for the guys that
think they know how to read lines and determine which way the sharp or pro
money is going: This line was initially attacked by Astros backers, who drove a
+115 opener all the way to -114, then the public started hammering the Dodgers
and has not stopped. Quite literally, you don’t know which, if either side, the
sharp or pro money has come down on. Sharp and/or pro money bets when it feels the
odds are opportune, not necessarily at the beginning or end of the day. There
is also a lot of money that is no longer wagering the World Series, as laying
or taking odds versus either of the two remaining contenders is dangerous. On a
15 game card in the midst of the season line movement on one particular game is
more significant than it is on a game that is the only action in town in the
World Series and draws out far less pro and sharp money as opposed to the same
amateur money that says “You just HAVE
to bet the Super Bowl!”
BOL
OK so I read your post fast... so what you're saying, quite literally if I read between the lines that you are following the sharp or pro money by taking the OVER in the grand salami for the superbowl at 27 if you can get a line between -114 and +115 because Joe Buck and John Smoltz said something about Johnny Bench? ?
I'm not a sports gambler, but I play one on the internet.
So, tonight the
“greatest pitcher on the planet” according to Joe Buck and John Smoltz, gets to
sit on the bench and watch his “unbeatable team” fall to the guys from
Hurricane Central, neither of which has any effect whatsoever on the outcome.
What does affect the outcome is that Justin Verlander is no choker. Instead of
choking on the Big Salami he will slice it, dice it, and consume it in 27 small
bites that chew, swallow and digest much better. The bullpen argument is over,
now that the Dodgers bullpen is no longer playing National League competition.
Their “greatest pitcher on the planet” and bullpen have been shredded and
tossed on the tacos. Dave Roberts grandest dream is that he must figure out
what to do tomorrow, since that would mean his team survived tonight. Don’t
worry about it Dave, tell your wife to go ahead and book the vacation plans. No
conspiracy theory here. Just the better starter (who will probably give them 7
strong), an equal bullpen, and far better offense.
Now, for the guys that
think they know how to read lines and determine which way the sharp or pro
money is going: This line was initially attacked by Astros backers, who drove a
+115 opener all the way to -114, then the public started hammering the Dodgers
and has not stopped. Quite literally, you don’t know which, if either side, the
sharp or pro money has come down on. Sharp and/or pro money bets when it feels the
odds are opportune, not necessarily at the beginning or end of the day. There
is also a lot of money that is no longer wagering the World Series, as laying
or taking odds versus either of the two remaining contenders is dangerous. On a
15 game card in the midst of the season line movement on one particular game is
more significant than it is on a game that is the only action in town in the
World Series and draws out far less pro and sharp money as opposed to the same
amateur money that says “You just HAVE
to bet the Super Bowl!”
BOL
Greatest invention? The ole free 24 hour cancellation policy on booked vacations!
So, tonight the
“greatest pitcher on the planet” according to Joe Buck and John Smoltz, gets to
sit on the bench and watch his “unbeatable team” fall to the guys from
Hurricane Central, neither of which has any effect whatsoever on the outcome.
What does affect the outcome is that Justin Verlander is no choker. Instead of
choking on the Big Salami he will slice it, dice it, and consume it in 27 small
bites that chew, swallow and digest much better. The bullpen argument is over,
now that the Dodgers bullpen is no longer playing National League competition.
Their “greatest pitcher on the planet” and bullpen have been shredded and
tossed on the tacos. Dave Roberts grandest dream is that he must figure out
what to do tomorrow, since that would mean his team survived tonight. Don’t
worry about it Dave, tell your wife to go ahead and book the vacation plans. No
conspiracy theory here. Just the better starter (who will probably give them 7
strong), an equal bullpen, and far better offense.
Now, for the guys that
think they know how to read lines and determine which way the sharp or pro
money is going: This line was initially attacked by Astros backers, who drove a
+115 opener all the way to -114, then the public started hammering the Dodgers
and has not stopped. Quite literally, you don’t know which, if either side, the
sharp or pro money has come down on. Sharp and/or pro money bets when it feels the
odds are opportune, not necessarily at the beginning or end of the day. There
is also a lot of money that is no longer wagering the World Series, as laying
or taking odds versus either of the two remaining contenders is dangerous. On a
15 game card in the midst of the season line movement on one particular game is
more significant than it is on a game that is the only action in town in the
World Series and draws out far less pro and sharp money as opposed to the same
amateur money that says “You just HAVE
to bet the Super Bowl!”
BOL
Greatest invention? The ole free 24 hour cancellation policy on booked vacations!
What does affect the outcome is that Justin Verlander is no choker.
Really? 3 WS starts he's now logged and every time he's left the game his team has trailed (Tigers once, Astros twice), making for an ERA of 5.62. No choker my behind. Dude comes up small when it matters most.
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What does affect the outcome is that Justin Verlander is no choker.
Really? 3 WS starts he's now logged and every time he's left the game his team has trailed (Tigers once, Astros twice), making for an ERA of 5.62. No choker my behind. Dude comes up small when it matters most.
What does affect the outcome is that Justin Verlander is no choker.
Really? 3 WS starts he's now logged and every time he's left the game his team has trailed (Tigers once, Astros twice), making for an ERA of 5.62. No choker my behind. Dude comes up small when it matters most.
Interesting find. My guess is that you won't get a rebuttle here.....
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Quote Originally Posted by sandique:
What does affect the outcome is that Justin Verlander is no choker.
Really? 3 WS starts he's now logged and every time he's left the game his team has trailed (Tigers once, Astros twice), making for an ERA of 5.62. No choker my behind. Dude comes up small when it matters most.
Interesting find. My guess is that you won't get a rebuttle here.....
What does affect the outcome is that Justin Verlander is no choker.
Really? 3 WS starts he's now logged and every time he's left the game his team has trailed (Tigers once, Astros twice), making for an ERA of 5.62. No choker my behind. Dude comes up small when it matters most.
To Key's credit, Verlander didn't choke in none of those starts. He gave his team a solid chance to win each time. In addition, he's done excellent in potential clinching games. My point was that Key made it seem like he was going to be unhittable. You can't say that about any pitcher in the playoffs and especially on the road, I don't care how good he is.
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Quote Originally Posted by sandique:
What does affect the outcome is that Justin Verlander is no choker.
Really? 3 WS starts he's now logged and every time he's left the game his team has trailed (Tigers once, Astros twice), making for an ERA of 5.62. No choker my behind. Dude comes up small when it matters most.
To Key's credit, Verlander didn't choke in none of those starts. He gave his team a solid chance to win each time. In addition, he's done excellent in potential clinching games. My point was that Key made it seem like he was going to be unhittable. You can't say that about any pitcher in the playoffs and especially on the road, I don't care how good he is.
Name me a pitcher that pitched in this year's playoffs that wasn't touched up or rocked. Every single great pitcher has their moment of looking mediocre. Last nite, like in game 5, the bait was the big name starting pitcher. I fell for it in game 5 but I was smart enough to understand what was going in in then going against Verlander in game 6. Let's for one minute be realistic: IF these games were pure from out 1 to out 27, Kershaw and Verlander make these teams look silly. It's very simple. Game 5: Kershaw with a 4-0 lead? Jansen walking batters and grooving balls over the plate? See Jansen last nite? Hmmmm. Verlander wheeling and dealing but then in the 6th he hits a batter? Really? With a guy on first and a pinch hitter up, he hits a batter? Hmmmm. Yeah must have been coincidence right? And I'm not saying this after the fact. I saw this coming the minute the Dodgers handed game 5 over to the Astros multiple times. As close to a l&ck as I'd ever admit. So tonite: when you place your bet, what is the first thing that goes through your head? If you have to think about it for a while, that's probably a good thing because in this particular game there is not one thing that stands out. The starters may cancel themselves out....the bullpens however....that's where the focus needs to be. Managing? That's where the focus needs to be. Still no credit to Roberts for his game 4 decision of pitching Wood and of course no credit to him for how he managed his pitching last nite. Hinch walks on water apparently. We'll see tonite who deserves the ultimate credit.
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Name me a pitcher that pitched in this year's playoffs that wasn't touched up or rocked. Every single great pitcher has their moment of looking mediocre. Last nite, like in game 5, the bait was the big name starting pitcher. I fell for it in game 5 but I was smart enough to understand what was going in in then going against Verlander in game 6. Let's for one minute be realistic: IF these games were pure from out 1 to out 27, Kershaw and Verlander make these teams look silly. It's very simple. Game 5: Kershaw with a 4-0 lead? Jansen walking batters and grooving balls over the plate? See Jansen last nite? Hmmmm. Verlander wheeling and dealing but then in the 6th he hits a batter? Really? With a guy on first and a pinch hitter up, he hits a batter? Hmmmm. Yeah must have been coincidence right? And I'm not saying this after the fact. I saw this coming the minute the Dodgers handed game 5 over to the Astros multiple times. As close to a l&ck as I'd ever admit. So tonite: when you place your bet, what is the first thing that goes through your head? If you have to think about it for a while, that's probably a good thing because in this particular game there is not one thing that stands out. The starters may cancel themselves out....the bullpens however....that's where the focus needs to be. Managing? That's where the focus needs to be. Still no credit to Roberts for his game 4 decision of pitching Wood and of course no credit to him for how he managed his pitching last nite. Hinch walks on water apparently. We'll see tonite who deserves the ultimate credit.
He hedged his series play so he is on the Dodgers in case you guys really need to know, for someone that was never going to go into one of Key's threads again you sure spend alot of time in them,nice NBA plays,terrible with no reason to take them.
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He hedged his series play so he is on the Dodgers in case you guys really need to know, for someone that was never going to go into one of Key's threads again you sure spend alot of time in them,nice NBA plays,terrible with no reason to take them.
He hedged his series play so he is on the Dodgers in case you guys really need to know, for someone that was never going to go into one of Key's threads again you sure spend alot of time in them,nice NBA plays,terrible with no reason to take them.
Hedge?? Why forget that I stayed with it all the way!! Come on Houston!!!
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Quote Originally Posted by JEG53:
He hedged his series play so he is on the Dodgers in case you guys really need to know, for someone that was never going to go into one of Key's threads again you sure spend alot of time in them,nice NBA plays,terrible with no reason to take them.
Hedge?? Why forget that I stayed with it all the way!! Come on Houston!!!
Hedge?? Why forget that I stayed with it all the way!! Come on Houston!!!
Come on you know Key would never hedge,I have Houston F-5 and game but the over looks like the best play,do not see the Dodgers being shut out. But I expect Key will start a new thread after the game or more likely tomorrow to talk about who wins,I hope he put more on Houston tonight but do not know.
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Quote Originally Posted by backdooor_cover:
Hedge?? Why forget that I stayed with it all the way!! Come on Houston!!!
Come on you know Key would never hedge,I have Houston F-5 and game but the over looks like the best play,do not see the Dodgers being shut out. But I expect Key will start a new thread after the game or more likely tomorrow to talk about who wins,I hope he put more on Houston tonight but do not know.
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