Oliver Stones Untold history of the United States

Quote Originally Posted by TILTOLOGIC:

Oli pulling no punches with this masturbatory piece of his...

Reagan "The Barbarian" is up next 

Ya, he was really ripping on Johnson, Nixon and Kissinger about Vietnam in the last episode. I remember when I was a kid in the 1950's-60's the whole country was paranoid about a ANYTHING "Communist" and everyone and their dog thought IF Vietnam fell to the North that ALL of Southeast Asia would "fall like dominos"

NOW Communist China is our biggest trading partner and Communist Vietnam is a close 2nd in that part of the world because of their potential offshore oil reserves .

GO FIGURE  

I'm sure Stone will go after "Saint Reagan" for Iran-Contra. I still can't figure out how Richard Nixon got impeached for a "third rate burglary" and Reagan escaped prosecution

I think the late Andy Rooney had the best description of Ronald Reagan's Presidency when after he left office he stated on his 60 Minutes segment that "Ronald Reagan did a wonderful job of portraying the roll of President of the United States"

to me, the man was a fraud. he came in as a "fiscal conservative" and tripled the countries debt. he pissed away billions (when billions really ment something) on weapons we didn't need like his 400 ship navy and others that never worked like "Star Wars" SDI. I think the alzheimer's was really starting to kick in in his 2nd term and that Nancy Reagan was really running the country

In the role of conservative, RR or Nancy cut the income rates across the board and ushered in the economic boom of the Clinton years and our last surplus. Just what was it that Clinton did economically that produced that surplus??? He sat in the oval office and enjoyed it like he enjoyed his Lewenskys. RR defense build-up was the price of toppling the SovietUnion and winning the ColdWar.

I'd be little inclined to accept the final word on RR from progressive Stone or Rooney, leftist mediaistas both.

what part of "came in as a 'fiscal conservative' and tripled the national debt" did you NOT understand? just like George W Bush with his two tax cuts, two wars and a Medicare prescription drug scheme that was more a give away to the drug companies than a benefit to seniors , he never PAID for anything  

guess we will just have to "agree to disagree"

btw, how about the "unintended consequences" of helping the the Mujahdeen against the Russians who later turned into the Taliban? I fear the same thing is going to happen in Libya and Syria  

Stone said in about a half hour what the 2005 documentary "Why We Fight" about the "Military-Industrial Complex" said about the Bush Administration in their 2nd hour.

I think the best overall description of the series is "everyone in government is/was an A**HOLE ex for Henry Wallace"

when really it was the USSR who were responsible for winning the war

in Europe, yes and they paid a horrible price for the victory. the Soviets had more people DIE in the Siege of Leningrad that ALL the British and Americans lost in the war

BUT the Soviets had NOTHING to do with the Pacific war against Japan until the very end when they made a "land grab" in Manchuria and Korea.

Really? Are you serious?