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Quote Originally Posted by Crossfire154:

First of all, to bet smart, you need to realize that everything is about perceived value. Getting a team with LeBron James, the best player in the world, at 30-1 odds is a god damn steal. You telling people to burn their tickets is stupidity in itself just based off that concept.

Second of all, they are the best team in the East right now, surging at the perfect time, and likely going to make the Finals. Over reacting to them losing in the beg of the season was so 11-12 Heat cliche. 

Third, Anybody who says that Duke should "consider moving on" from Coach K due to a few early exits is an absolute moron. Even if they had lost to SD St, he has 4 championships. 

Fourth, you are a clown. Don't post stupid garbage if you don't want to get roasted by the Internet. 


That may be an even dumber thing then what you posted here. Both a 20+ on a scale from 1-10 but WOW! Duke going different ways with Coach K if they lost to SDSU Do you even watch sports? 
 
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Spot on analysis Scal.. yes burn the futures tickets for the team that has the best odds to win the NBA championship according to my book. WOW just WOW

 
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Posted: #178
Quote Originally Posted by Lethargic_Budah:


I wasn't aware the Cavs lost the championship on 4/14/15

If you're going to go make a bold prediction, how about to post who is going to win it, not saying the Cavs are going to be 1 of the 15  teams that will lose in the playoffs. Especially trying to say it in this fashion.

Don't be mad your stupid losing write-ups didn't lead you to put in a Final Champion in 2015 future when Lebron was still in South Beach. Please don't let everyone telling you, that you're a complete idiot from posting your playoff picks. I will begin fading you as a I did last year. Sub 40% capper

My write-ups are some of the best and most informative on here (and that's not saying much in light of the fact most people post just picks). No real competition outside of BB who I don't compete against.

And LOSING the championship isn't the bet you fool. The bet is WINNING the championship so until they do so that bet is just a paper ticket.

And if you faded me last year you won 35% of your bets.

 
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Quote Originally Posted by Crossfire154:

First of all, to bet smart, you need to realize that everything is about perceived value. Getting a team with LeBron James, the best player in the world, at 30-1 odds is a god damn steal. You telling people to burn their tickets is stupidity in itself just based off that concept.

Second of all, they are the best team in the East right now, surging at the perfect time, and likely going to make the Finals. Over reacting to them losing in the beg of the season was so 11-12 Heat cliche. 

Third, Anybody who says that Duke should "consider moving on" from Coach K due to a few early exits is an absolute moron. Even if they had lost to SD St, he has 4 championships. 

Fourth, you are a clown. Don't post stupid garbage if you don't want to get roasted by the Internet. 

I am the clown and you've posted how many write-ups?

And how many people ask your opinion?

And how much have you contributed to the forum?

Oh that's right, nothing, but you'll tell me that a speculative ticket purchased at 30-1 (essentially a lottery ticket) BEFORE Lebron came has 'incredible' value. Except you're saying that AFTER he came and AFTER Love came and AFTER Marion and Miller came and AFTER the Knicks GAVE 2 of their 3 best players to them and AFTER the Nuggets practically GAVE their center away for what equates to two high second rounders. This doesn't even touch on how the East was reshaped through injuries and recent arrests but you're here genuflecting to the god that is Lebron. What a child you are...

And now you are here MONTHS later. MONTHS after all this happened and BEFORE the Cavs have won anything to tell me I'm THE CLOWN.

Kid, you are a JOKE. You don't even know how stupid you look right now.

And in addition, this thread is also about EFFECTIVE HEDGING a concept that flies over your head like a stealth bomber ripping the toupee right off it.

 

So many fools genuflecting at game 82 and even at that, still nothing has been won and not a SINGLE poster has posted any profit because they are ALL letting it ride. And you better win it all when you let it ride. And let's just see if they do...because if they don't...those tickets are as good as SHREDDED...

 
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Posted: #180
Quote Originally Posted by joepa510:

Spot on analysis Scal.. yes burn the futures tickets for the team that has the best odds to win the NBA championship according to my book. WOW just WOW

Yes, yes, the best odds. And they are worth what presently? $0. Because not a SINGLE person has hedged out. Not ONE. So not a single dollar has been made. And these tickets were complete and utter speculative gambles that Lebron would come. And then lo and behold, Love comes with him...what a nice gift. Of and Mozgov, Miller and Marion and JR and Shumpert came too....not exactly chopped liver. You think the Cavs would be winning with just Lebron if some of those teams didn't GIFT WRAP those players to the Cavs?

You are a fool...

 
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Yes I am the fool Scal when you are suggesting people throw away the futures tickets for a team with the best odds of winning the whole thing.. You are basically suggesting that the futures tickets are worthless and that Cleveland has zero percent chance of winning the whole thing.  Great call. And now hopefully Duke will wise up and part ways with coach K..
 
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Says the man who unloaded his entire life savings (which I assume is about $200) on Knicks to win more than 30 games!


 
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Posted: #183
Quote Originally Posted by scalabrine:

And if you faded me last year you won 35% of your bets.


 That is ludicrous! You are no where close to a 65% capper. Step down from your high horse buddy. No one is going to be fooled into thinking you're even a 50% capper with posts like this and posts saying Duke needs to can Coach K, no matter the circumstance.
 
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Quote Originally Posted by scalabrine:

I am the clown and you've posted how many write-ups?

And how many people ask your opinion?

And how much have you contributed to the forum?

Oh that's right, nothing, but you'll tell me that a speculative ticket purchased at 30-1 (essentially a lottery ticket) BEFORE Lebron came has 'incredible' value. Except you're saying that AFTER he came and AFTER Love came and AFTER Marion and Miller came and AFTER the Knicks GAVE 2 of their 3 best players to them and AFTER the Nuggets practically GAVE their center away for what equates to two high second rounders. This doesn't even touch on how the East was reshaped through injuries and recent arrests but you're here genuflecting to the god that is Lebron. What a child you are...

And now you are here MONTHS later. MONTHS after all this happened and BEFORE the Cavs have won anything to tell me I'm THE CLOWN.

Kid, you are a JOKE. You don't even know how stupid you look right now.

And in addition, this thread is also about EFFECTIVE HEDGING a concept that flies over your head like a stealth bomber ripping the toupee right off it.

 

So many fools genuflecting at game 82 and even at that, still nothing has been won and not a SINGLE poster has posted any profit because they are ALL letting it ride. And you better win it all when you let it ride. And let's just see if they do...because if they don't...those tickets are as good as SHREDDED...


It's a free world. I can speak my mind without needing to write something stupid beforehand like you. Everything in betting is "speculation". Faulting somebody for making an educated speculated decision, considering there were rumors amid about LeBron going to Cleveland, is what makes you a clown, loser, and bum. You claim all this "after" crap, but all that needed to happen was LeBron. All these additions were, in some way, going to happen with the acquisition of LeBron. He has the most influence over management than any other player, ever. 

You created this thread, scoffing at others, and now you are getting butt hurt when you look stupid nearing the end of the season. Where exactly did you post anything about hedging in your initial post? I shall quote you, "I'm not talking about hedging."  Don't try and backtrack and say you didn't make this to try and be a smart behind.

I suppose you are going to tell me, considering to let Coach K isn't a stupid remark because I am saying this AFTER they beat Wisconsin, Michigan St, Gonzaga, Utah, SD St, and Robert Morris. 

All that stuff that happened after the fact, only proves how dumb everything you stated in November, really was. So what if all that stuff happened. The Cavs made the proper adjustments around LeBron to make their team better, and your comment dumber by the day. If you make a ridiculous claim that people should burn their tickets days after the season begins, you can't say "oh well it's not fair because the Cavs did this, this, and this to make me look like a dumbass."

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Posted: #185
This ticket is very very valuable right now -- Cavs favored to win it all and even if you got the 5 to 1 tickets you now can still hedge and guarantee profit.  It was easily the best value future in the NBA and the Cavs have a REALLLY good chance to win it all.
 
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Quote Originally Posted by bobmaloogatimesfive:

This ticket is very very valuable right now -- Cavs favored to win it all and even if you got the 5 to 1 tickets you now can still hedge and guarantee profit.  It was easily the best value future in the NBA and the Cavs have a REALLLY good chance to win it all.


Thanks for the breaking news at game 82 Bob.

Unfortunatley your statement, "good chance to win it all" has a  ton of backstory.

When this thread was created the team as constructed was not a championship team. And I stood by that and created the thread.

Lebron begged Ray Allen to come out of retirement. He denied them.

So the knicks stepped right in and gave them two of their three best players, an excellent permeter defender and a better three point shooter at this point than Allen could have been (and a far better scorer overall in general).

So the permiter was locked up.

Still need a center?

No problem. The nuggets have the answers to you woes with a competent one for heavily protected draft picks that can actually be used when the earth turns to dust.

The center is was one of the main reasons the Heat didn't beat Dallas. No matter. Nuggets solved that problem.

So to sit here and laud the value of the ticket for what is 'luck' (ie getting a TON of extras on your 30-1 bet when that bet was made just for Lebron and not to mention, you got Love too). It was a lottery ticket.


And that ticket got even better when:

1) Rose when down with an injury and he is just getting back, if he ever gets 'back' to the Rose we knew
2) Lowry has severe back spasms that will derail any chance of the Raptors making any upset bid
3) Hawks have two players arrested and now their leading scorer in Milsap isn't 100%.

The basketball gods have smiled upon the Cavs haven't they.


And still, the ticket has paid nothing since they need to beat the best in the west. And still, there is a detailed conversation in this thread about effective hedging, especially for the $100 bettor who took a shot at 30-1 before the Cavs came (and that is the overwhelming majority of ticket holders) and something they haven't hedged out of for a single dime as of today and something they will have trouble doing in the playoffs given their alleged finances (which isn't much for $100 who likely will let it ride).

So the ticket is worth nothing until it does what every other ticket needs to do....cash.


I'll get to Moe Larry and Curly above you in due time but I suggest you keep everything I said in perspective before genuflectIng at the alter of Lebron and the Cavs because the missing puzzle pieces for this run were freely provided. And those were very important pieces.
 
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Posted: #187

I guarantee you this guy Scalabrine was so happy when he saw this thread bumped yesterday that he went straight to a corner and whacked off!!

It gives him a chance once again to pronounce to all what a genius he is.  "My writeups are the best and most informative on here. Outside of BB, who I buttf*ck every chance I get."  Kidding about the last part.  He didn't say that.  He said he doesn't compete against his pal BB.  Like it's a competition in here.

Bottom line:  He will never back down from (but will continue to make excuses for) the most ignorant statement made on this forum in the last calendar year.

 
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I mean if ur wrong ur wrong. No shame in admitting it
 
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I'd definitely hedge but who realistically is going to beat them. Surely no one in the East. Bottom 3 seeds are trash. Wizards has taken a nose dive. Bulls never show up for the post season plus have a horrible record against Lebron. Raptors would probably go 6 games. Hawks are good but you need a superstar and who can win you games down the stretch which they do not have and Cleveland does. Out West... the 8 seeds going home early. Dallas (who I'm very disappointed in and had in an NBA Finals Future bet) look absolutely awful lately. Portland has no bench plus no Mathews. Houston is a one man show and relies on perimeter shots. Golden State while very good also relies on outside scoring too much. 

So this leaves San Antonio, Memphis, and the Clippers. All these teams would have a shot and the Spurs may even be favored if they met. But how can you say a future Cavs championship bet even before all the acquisitions with the best player of this generation should be shredded? Again I WOULD HEDGE TOO but there's no other futures ticket that has a better chance than this. 
 
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In the end, Scal will be right.  IF the Cavs are able to squeak by Atlanta, they will get roasted by GSW or SAS in the Finals.
 
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this site has turned into such garbage thanks for your contribution!
 
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Quote Originally Posted by FlamingoBarnes:

In the end, Scal will be right.  IF the Cavs are able to squeak by Atlanta, they will get roasted by GSW or SAS in the Finals.

Highly doubt that. But being a cavs fan this thread makes me very happy seeing scal a nuts against them.

 
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Quote Originally Posted by Enjoi:

I mean if ur wrong ur wrong. No shame in admitting it


What am I wrong about?

Never once did I say the Cavs couldn't win 50.

Never once did I say the Cavs couldn't go on a run.

I said they couldn't win the championship.


Until the Cavs win the championship, something I still don't see them doing, I have been 'wrong' about nothing.


And I repeat: the overwhelming majority of bettors who gambled Lebron would come to Cleveland at 30-1 were $100 bettors. 95% of all bettors will let this ticket ride. $100 bettors are a) confident in their selection and have made it this far and will ride it out or b) do not have the disposable income to effectively hedge through the playoffs (Ask CG who started with 30K and has now dipped to 3K). And until it hits, it's as worthless as the toilet paper most of these buffoons stuff their training bra with. 
 
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Let's burn those Cavs tickets in a big bonfire like what them Cavs fans once did to their LBJ jerseys...

Love it! Let's go Bulls!!!


Sip on that plus money honey!
 
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Quote Originally Posted by scalabrine:

Quote Originally Posted by Enjoi:

I mean if ur wrong ur wrong. No shame in admitting it
What am I wrong about?Never once did I say the Cavs couldn't win 50.Never once did I say the Cavs couldn't go on a run.I said they couldn't win the championship.Until the Cavs win the championship, something I still don't see them doing, I have been 'wrong' about nothing.And I repeat: the overwhelming majority of bettors who gambled Lebron would come to Cleveland at 30-1 were $100 bettors. 95% of all bettors will let this ticket ride. $100 bettors are a) confident in their selection and have made it this far and will ride it out or b) do not have the disposable income to effectively hedge through the playoffs (Ask CG who started with 30K and has now dipped to 3K). And until it hits, it's as worthless as the toilet paper most of these buffoons stuff their training bra with.

Scal, you know damn well that it's not worth less until it hits. Plenty of hedging opportunities coming to make money off of a 30/1 ticket. They are overwhelming favorites to get out of the east and can very well win the championship. To dismiss it completely is ridiculous.
 
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Cavs will get swept by GSW or SAS
 
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hey scal lets not worry about those cavs 30 to 1 tickets right now. lets talk about this huge game tonight for the knicks that could win your knicks win total bet......oh wait nevermind
 
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Quote Originally Posted by scalabrine:



What am I wrong about?

Never once did I say the Cavs couldn't win 50.

Never once did I say the Cavs couldn't go on a run.

I said they couldn't win the championship.


Until the Cavs win the championship, something I still don't see them doing, I have been 'wrong' about nothing.


And I repeat: the overwhelming majority of bettors who gambled Lebron would come to Cleveland at 30-1 were $100 bettors. 95% of all bettors will let this ticket ride. $100 bettors are a) confident in their selection and have made it this far and will ride it out or b) do not have the disposable income to effectively hedge through the playoffs (Ask CG who started with 30K and has now dipped to 3K). And until it hits, it's as worthless as the toilet paper most of these buffoons stuff their training bra with. 
  You are wrong about saying the tickets should be thrown in the shredder, T Dum.  That's what you've been wrong about since day one.  Now go back to the corner.
 
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its just asinine to say they should be thrown in the shredder. number one where are you gonna find 30 to on any playoff team let alone a number 2 seed with the best player in the nba. number two theres always a spot to hedge and anyone with that 30 to 1 ticket whether they think the cavs will win it all or not will probably hedge in the eastern conference finals
 
 
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Quote Originally Posted by rms8325:

hey scal lets not worry about those cavs 30 to 1 tickets right now. lets talk about this huge game tonight for the knicks that could win your knicks win total bet......oh wait nevermind

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