I'll also remember the look in the dude's eyes. Chewing his gum or just a cool but intensely competitive aware look in hazel eyes
With LeBron, you'll see all kinds of emotions. From excited to satisfied to disappointed to bored.
And again man did other teams want to beat that behind...
Speaking of bored I guess it's the football offseason (and basketball now) so a good time to reminisce
oh,theres no doubt watsoever that jordan and lebron were put together differently,that is well documented many times and many of jordans traits that made him who he was as a player were alluded to in my earlier post...dude was a strait cold-blooded killer on the court,willing to rip your fu.ken heart out and show it to you to get that victory.his competitive desire was on a whole nother level.assassin in shorts....single minded focus personified.
lebron is a far more well-rounded dude,more sensitive by a long way,more rational with a better perspective on life..of course he wants to win but he knows where to draw the line...its obviously hurt him in a few big moments/situations in his career and is why his legacy will probably never eclipse m.j's,no matter wat wondrous achievements he piles up over time.
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Quote Originally Posted by budwiser:
I'll also remember the look in the dude's eyes. Chewing his gum or just a cool but intensely competitive aware look in hazel eyes
With LeBron, you'll see all kinds of emotions. From excited to satisfied to disappointed to bored.
And again man did other teams want to beat that behind...
Speaking of bored I guess it's the football offseason (and basketball now) so a good time to reminisce
oh,theres no doubt watsoever that jordan and lebron were put together differently,that is well documented many times and many of jordans traits that made him who he was as a player were alluded to in my earlier post...dude was a strait cold-blooded killer on the court,willing to rip your fu.ken heart out and show it to you to get that victory.his competitive desire was on a whole nother level.assassin in shorts....single minded focus personified.
lebron is a far more well-rounded dude,more sensitive by a long way,more rational with a better perspective on life..of course he wants to win but he knows where to draw the line...its obviously hurt him in a few big moments/situations in his career and is why his legacy will probably never eclipse m.j's,no matter wat wondrous achievements he piles up over time.
totally agree with what you said, if it wasn't for his dad dying and his easy way in the nba he would have won 8 straight. he stopped himself
let me ask something-if he was as belittling and impossible to deal with as you said, i imagine his teams and coaches would have bailed on him. But he made his TEAM better.
If you remember back in the day, the attention on Jordan was white hot. He was "the man". I'm sure you remember it's not like LeBron these days-everybody knows LeBron is the best player, but Jordan was IT, until somebody could stop the Bulls. And man did they want to beat his *ss. Even to this DAY, 20+ years later, if Jordan shows up somewhere, people will take notice. LeBron 20 years from now? Come on.
I remember Sean Kemp as a serial philanderer-never amounted to anything other than a bunch of kids out of wedlock. Every time I saw that guy, I thought about it. A lot of these guys are in it for themselves.
I read Jordan donated to Obama. I'm not a fan of that. I'm not a dem or rep. I look at these guys as a meal ticket, something to go to the window with-I don't have a favorite "team". Politicans lie from the moment they open their mouths-it's how they win-people will never vote for honest politicians.
Most of these players make millions and they're broke, and a lot of them are crippled (football). We all know those stories. Mike Tyson made hundreds of millions and went bankrupt before he finished boxing. Didn't happen to Jordan. I don't think it will happen to LeBron.
im sure you know the answer to this already...come on,who is gonna bail on the greatest single basketball talent in the history of the game and forego the chance at grabbing all the reflective glory off of his brilliance and accomplishments??all his team-mates and coaches obviously benefit greatly financially,personally,in terms of fame etc.....so obviously they were willing to put up with his sh*t to get that ring....its all about the ring remember.
same as kobes team-mates,im sure most will tell you hes a total douche-bag but almost all stuck around to be part of his greatness and soak up sum residual benefits from his accomplishments.
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Quote Originally Posted by budwiser:
totally agree with what you said, if it wasn't for his dad dying and his easy way in the nba he would have won 8 straight. he stopped himself
let me ask something-if he was as belittling and impossible to deal with as you said, i imagine his teams and coaches would have bailed on him. But he made his TEAM better.
If you remember back in the day, the attention on Jordan was white hot. He was "the man". I'm sure you remember it's not like LeBron these days-everybody knows LeBron is the best player, but Jordan was IT, until somebody could stop the Bulls. And man did they want to beat his *ss. Even to this DAY, 20+ years later, if Jordan shows up somewhere, people will take notice. LeBron 20 years from now? Come on.
I remember Sean Kemp as a serial philanderer-never amounted to anything other than a bunch of kids out of wedlock. Every time I saw that guy, I thought about it. A lot of these guys are in it for themselves.
I read Jordan donated to Obama. I'm not a fan of that. I'm not a dem or rep. I look at these guys as a meal ticket, something to go to the window with-I don't have a favorite "team". Politicans lie from the moment they open their mouths-it's how they win-people will never vote for honest politicians.
Most of these players make millions and they're broke, and a lot of them are crippled (football). We all know those stories. Mike Tyson made hundreds of millions and went bankrupt before he finished boxing. Didn't happen to Jordan. I don't think it will happen to LeBron.
im sure you know the answer to this already...come on,who is gonna bail on the greatest single basketball talent in the history of the game and forego the chance at grabbing all the reflective glory off of his brilliance and accomplishments??all his team-mates and coaches obviously benefit greatly financially,personally,in terms of fame etc.....so obviously they were willing to put up with his sh*t to get that ring....its all about the ring remember.
same as kobes team-mates,im sure most will tell you hes a total douche-bag but almost all stuck around to be part of his greatness and soak up sum residual benefits from his accomplishments.
LeBron doesn't take his coach seriously. Never the case with mj who respected dean Phil and Doug and would respect even the worst of his teammates e.g. rodman if he helped them win
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LeBron doesn't take his coach seriously. Never the case with mj who respected dean Phil and Doug and would respect even the worst of his teammates e.g. rodman if he helped them win
This is a tired argument. Jordan is a stud. The best ever. Does that make Lebron less? Of course not. Being top 3 is not bad at all. But there will never be another Jordan.
Stop with the nonsense.
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This is a tired argument. Jordan is a stud. The best ever. Does that make Lebron less? Of course not. Being top 3 is not bad at all. But there will never be another Jordan.
LeBron has had everything handed to him, including more height strength and natural ability than mj.
MJ worked harder than LeBron there is no doubt. And mj took every teammate seriously.
well,theres 2 separate things....theres characteristics which suit being a competitor in a competitive environment where you need to win at all costs,so clearly jordan is perfectly suited in every way imagineable personality wise,whilst lebron??...eh,not so much.
but then in the attributes necessary for me to consider sumone a decent human being i feel from wat i can gather that lebron is better in that regard.
hard to say,lebron works incredibly hard at his game without any doubt..you dont get to be where he is on natural talent alone obviously..i wud think they both work equally hard at their craft off the court.
and you shud read up sum more on jordan if you think he never dis-respected his own team-mates..theres REASONS why he wasnt very popular as a guy to get along with amongst his team..they loved being part of a team that had jordan in it,im sure...but not too many bulls players wud be hanging out with the guy in their spare time....read that old sam smith book,jordan rules
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Quote Originally Posted by budwiser:
You think LeBron has better character than mj?
LeBron has had everything handed to him, including more height strength and natural ability than mj.
MJ worked harder than LeBron there is no doubt. And mj took every teammate seriously.
well,theres 2 separate things....theres characteristics which suit being a competitor in a competitive environment where you need to win at all costs,so clearly jordan is perfectly suited in every way imagineable personality wise,whilst lebron??...eh,not so much.
but then in the attributes necessary for me to consider sumone a decent human being i feel from wat i can gather that lebron is better in that regard.
hard to say,lebron works incredibly hard at his game without any doubt..you dont get to be where he is on natural talent alone obviously..i wud think they both work equally hard at their craft off the court.
and you shud read up sum more on jordan if you think he never dis-respected his own team-mates..theres REASONS why he wasnt very popular as a guy to get along with amongst his team..they loved being part of a team that had jordan in it,im sure...but not too many bulls players wud be hanging out with the guy in their spare time....read that old sam smith book,jordan rules
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