Kyrie has had almost as many head coaches and GMs as years played. He been told one thing but the other happens. LeBron was never in the picture then he appears then his players coaching and front office shows up. Can't hate the kid for wanting to get paid, everyone else is. Everybody knows james is leaving. Maybe Kyrie does not want to be the last man out.
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Kyrie has had almost as many head coaches and GMs as years played. He been told one thing but the other happens. LeBron was never in the picture then he appears then his players coaching and front office shows up. Can't hate the kid for wanting to get paid, everyone else is. Everybody knows james is leaving. Maybe Kyrie does not want to be the last man out.
This is how the NBA is shaping out fellas. We all know it. Super teams and players go where they want to be. I kind of like it because the players aren't just playing for the team that drafted them. It's more like college they get to choose where they want to go.
Kevin Durant started it
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This is how the NBA is shaping out fellas. We all know it. Super teams and players go where they want to be. I kind of like it because the players aren't just playing for the team that drafted them. It's more like college they get to choose where they want to go.
Phoenix in the mix...Could you imagine how disgustingly nasty gangster a Kyrie-Booker backcourt would be....
i would say like 9-10 in west nasty gangster
lol maybe I got a little too excited there. Kyrie won't make the suns a playoff team but they will be hella exciting and that young core with kyrie-booker-jackson-chriss-bender has big time potential. Unlisted and Warren both keepers too. Suns going in the right direction. Assuming Bledsoe goes the other way...
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Quote Originally Posted by benhogan76:
Quote Originally Posted by SamLangford:
Phoenix in the mix...Could you imagine how disgustingly nasty gangster a Kyrie-Booker backcourt would be....
i would say like 9-10 in west nasty gangster
lol maybe I got a little too excited there. Kyrie won't make the suns a playoff team but they will be hella exciting and that young core with kyrie-booker-jackson-chriss-bender has big time potential. Unlisted and Warren both keepers too. Suns going in the right direction. Assuming Bledsoe goes the other way...
Agreed they would be exciting. I will say this and I am wrong a lot, Kryie isn't a Top star for a team. Great offensive player but trash on D and not good passer. He will regret this big time.
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Agreed they would be exciting. I will say this and I am wrong a lot, Kryie isn't a Top star for a team. Great offensive player but trash on D and not good passer. He will regret this big time.
According to Adrian Wojnarowski of ESPN, the Heat "are willing to part with Goran Dragic and Justise Winslow as centerpieces" in a trade for Kyrie Irving.
It's a strong offer from Miami, but Wojnarowski notes that, due to the strained relationship between Miami and Cleveland, "there's little chance for a deal unless the Heat offered an overwhelming package." The key to the trade would be how Cleveland views Winslow, who is a promising prospect but has had a rocky start to his NBA career. Woj also reports that six other teams have submitted formal offers for Irving: San Antonio Spurs, L.A. Clippers, Phoenix Suns, Minnesota Timberwolves and the New York Knicks.
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Source - Rotoworld
According to Adrian Wojnarowski of ESPN, the Heat "are willing to part with Goran Dragic and Justise Winslow as centerpieces" in a trade for Kyrie Irving.
It's a strong offer from Miami, but Wojnarowski notes that, due to the strained relationship between Miami and Cleveland, "there's little chance for a deal unless the Heat offered an overwhelming package." The key to the trade would be how Cleveland views Winslow, who is a promising prospect but has had a rocky start to his NBA career. Woj also reports that six other teams have submitted formal offers for Irving: San Antonio Spurs, L.A. Clippers, Phoenix Suns, Minnesota Timberwolves and the New York Knicks.
Cavs should expect an all star player or all-star caliber talent back from all trade offers to be taken serioursly.
Why do teams move All Star talent for average players that don't come anywhere close to making an All Star team.
I would not trade Kyrie Irving for Groan Dragic and Justice Winslow, unless somehow the CAVS have somehow lost all leverage in the deal. And with Kyrie having two years left on his contract -- the CAVS have a ton of leverage and should not be in a rush to do anything. Haste makes waste!
Now, contradicting myself somewhat --- I would trade Kyrie for the Miami Heat Center Hasam Whiteside [premier shot blocker and finisher in the paint].
Point is --- you trade a TALENTED PLAYER to get back an equally TALENTED PLAYER.
I feel that shot blocking is under-rated......and what the Pelicans has done with Damarcus Cousins and Anthony Davis ---- is what teams need to still make sure they have and that is RIM PROTECTION and mobile and agile bigs that can stay on the floor when teams go small --- and PUNISH the other teams small line-up when they try to check that effective finisher in the paint.
Folks don't talk too much about the CAVS Tristan Thompson -- while he is a great offensive rebounder --- Tristan needs to work on his finishing ability in the paint and improve his Pick and Pop offensive game --- his inability to get better from Playoff Basketball 2016 to his Playoff Basketball 2017 season -- in my opinion hurt the cavs. And I have a feeling he will bring that same rudimetary offensive game to the Playoff Basketball 2018 season -- which just doesn't scare or frighten anyone. He must be a threat to score 10 ppg. and to me -- he is not that DUDE.
Getting Whiteside would be an upgrade to the Cavs frontcourt
And I still feel that SIZE MATTERS.....and is the way to beat small-ball teams
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Cavs should expect an all star player or all-star caliber talent back from all trade offers to be taken serioursly.
Why do teams move All Star talent for average players that don't come anywhere close to making an All Star team.
I would not trade Kyrie Irving for Groan Dragic and Justice Winslow, unless somehow the CAVS have somehow lost all leverage in the deal. And with Kyrie having two years left on his contract -- the CAVS have a ton of leverage and should not be in a rush to do anything. Haste makes waste!
Now, contradicting myself somewhat --- I would trade Kyrie for the Miami Heat Center Hasam Whiteside [premier shot blocker and finisher in the paint].
Point is --- you trade a TALENTED PLAYER to get back an equally TALENTED PLAYER.
I feel that shot blocking is under-rated......and what the Pelicans has done with Damarcus Cousins and Anthony Davis ---- is what teams need to still make sure they have and that is RIM PROTECTION and mobile and agile bigs that can stay on the floor when teams go small --- and PUNISH the other teams small line-up when they try to check that effective finisher in the paint.
Folks don't talk too much about the CAVS Tristan Thompson -- while he is a great offensive rebounder --- Tristan needs to work on his finishing ability in the paint and improve his Pick and Pop offensive game --- his inability to get better from Playoff Basketball 2016 to his Playoff Basketball 2017 season -- in my opinion hurt the cavs. And I have a feeling he will bring that same rudimetary offensive game to the Playoff Basketball 2018 season -- which just doesn't scare or frighten anyone. He must be a threat to score 10 ppg. and to me -- he is not that DUDE.
Getting Whiteside would be an upgrade to the Cavs frontcourt
And I still feel that SIZE MATTERS.....and is the way to beat small-ball teams
T-Wolves would have to part with either KAT or Wiggins to get Irving which I can't see happeningIf he wants to win Spurs the only destination
Why wouldnt they trade wiggins for kyrie i dont understand. Wiggins aint gona be relyable in The fourth. Hes not a great defender at all. Need to trade wiggins . Thats makes their team so much better if they can gel together.
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Quote Originally Posted by rod_steel:
T-Wolves would have to part with either KAT or Wiggins to get Irving which I can't see happeningIf he wants to win Spurs the only destination
Why wouldnt they trade wiggins for kyrie i dont understand. Wiggins aint gona be relyable in The fourth. Hes not a great defender at all. Need to trade wiggins . Thats makes their team so much better if they can gel together.
There was a rumor floating around that Kyrie's preferred destination was in New York with the Knicks. Then i came across this which should complicate things:
source - New York Post
Carmelo Anthony "only wishes to waive his no-trade clause to go to the Rockets" and is unwilling to accept a trade to Cleveland, according to Marc Berman of the New York Post.
Once Kyrie Irving requested a trade out of Cleveland, rumors involving Melo and the Cavs began to pick up steam. However, it appears that Anthony still has his heart set on Houston. The issue is the Knicks are not interested in taking back Ryan Anderson as the centerpiece of the package the Rockets are offering. This stalemate may last well into next month, as the Knicks don't have a reason to rush into making an unfavorable trade.
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There was a rumor floating around that Kyrie's preferred destination was in New York with the Knicks. Then i came across this which should complicate things:
source - New York Post
Carmelo Anthony "only wishes to waive his no-trade clause to go to the Rockets" and is unwilling to accept a trade to Cleveland, according to Marc Berman of the New York Post.
Once Kyrie Irving requested a trade out of Cleveland, rumors involving Melo and the Cavs began to pick up steam. However, it appears that Anthony still has his heart set on Houston. The issue is the Knicks are not interested in taking back Ryan Anderson as the centerpiece of the package the Rockets are offering. This stalemate may last well into next month, as the Knicks don't have a reason to rush into making an unfavorable trade.
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