*** LeBron James appreciation thread***

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And he is going to bitch and moan and cry for another ten years.

What ever happened to GabbyX or whatever that persons name was ? Can you please post so I can see that Crying Lebron ?

All I know is no great player has ever gotten swept in the NBA Finals. That goes for LeBitch and Fat Boy.

5'11 Allen Iverson won a game in LA vrs a Dynasty with F#$kin Aaron McKey and E Snow !

Jordan was also going up against Hall of Fame Legends in their prime his first 6 years. The Bad Boys in Detroit were a top 10 team of all times. Larry Bird and the Celtics.... Need I say more ?

LeBitch losing series to the Micheal Jordan of TURKEY....

I think I speak for 90% of the people who grew up following the NBA and in a Basketball culture when I say... Ya Lebron is a freakish athlete and can do things no other player in history could have done...but those are all physical gifts....open this kids chest and youll find nothing but an Ipod with Kanye West playing. He is the ScareCROW. He will NEVER get the respect of a legend.

He might be around 10+ years but he isnt going to get a ring unless he sucks another superstar off under the table and tries to join forces. There is too much talent in this League right now.

And the bottom line is Lebron James Half Court Game in a PlayOff setting isnt in the Top 5 (maybe 10) in the NBA.

how can anyone say lebron has no heart? stop the hating. like him or not, this guy is a great player. a player that has no heart is a player that plays half ass. this guys plays hard and goes to the fullest on every play on D and O.

it is proven that you cant win a ring in this league yourself. you have to at least have a trio of good caliber players on a team to win and it shows. (Kg, pierce, allen),  

Lebron got Fake Heart....TNT heart....When the Camera is on Heart....When everything is going his way Heart....When he lose run out the stadium....I guess I just can't explain it to someone who doesn't know the difference.

Doing the Soldier Boy in pre game warm ups isn't something an Old School Basketball Head Equates with HEART.

Haven t seen this box get into one Scuffle. Not even the start of a fight where people break it up.

Have You ?

Thats a part of imposing your WILL on another team...on another man....

Zeke did it ...Jordan did it ... Bird did it....Lambier did it ...Oakley did it .... Ewing did it ...Ray Allen did it ...Sam Cassel did it ... even Kobe ... who GREW heart over the years went through his share of skirmishes. All I see is Bron get Bodied and Never Says SHIT ... HE just doesnt have it in him.

Sorry...

We KNOW Mello does...Wade Does...CP3 Does...Timmy Does....

No1 ever questions their heart.... but Lebron ...

Eh....I smell puss

dude i hate lebron more than anybody

"lebron is a power player, he can finish better than anybody (probably) ever but the dude can't shoot"

In relation to the rings argument.

So Billups > Chris Paul?
Parker > Paul and Nash?

Rings are a measure of team success, not individual. With that said, rings should be looked at when a career is over. You are comparing a 14 year career to a 7 year career. In addition, you are comparing a player who came on a team with no one and literally turned a franchise around into a title contender, to a player who landed on a team with one of the greatest players ever in Shaq.

I mean, Kobe averaged 15 ppg on 37% shooting in the first finals they won. You think LeBron could ever average that and win a ring? Look at Kobe's 4/21 game; they still beat the Bucks. You think LeBron can get away with going 4/21 and still blow a team out? He doesn't have the luxury of playing along superstars.

Post-Shaq and Pre-Gasol is an accurate comparison of situations between the 2. What happened? Kobe missed playoffs one year, then lost in the first round the next two, including blowing a 3-1 lead, while LeBron, at 21, was making the finals with one of the worst teams to make the finals in NBA history.

At this point, LeBron is the more efficient offensive player, the more versatile defender, the better passer, better rebounder, and better 3 point shooter. Take what you want from that but to me, all signs point towards LeBron being better at this point.

Dude mentioned Kobe in one post. I am talking about Heart and intangibles. Which this kid does NOT Have. Who gives a Fk about Kobe ? And if you think that Lebron is a better 3 point shooter then you need to lay off the pipe. Kobe is 3X the Half Court Scorer than Lebron is PERIOD. I don't even like Kobe. But don't manipulate some numbers over 39 games to prove a false point. Better Passer ? Why ? Because he turns his head and looks away after making a basic pass ? Kobe is by FAR the better outside shooter and has the better post game.

The whole point is Lebron isnt a champion. Need Proof ? Look at your own Avy fuloser... The guy is always TRYING to be something he isnt. Did he even graduate highschool ? Yet he is wearing a sports jacket with a crest as if he graduated from Harvard.
What kind of clown shit is that ? Is that the King James Crest ?

And ya Lebron made it the finals at 21...and got SWEPT.... SWEPT.  IMO its better to lose in the conference finals in 7 games than get SWEPT in the finals. And he may have only been 21 but he was in his FOURTH NBA season.

They had Big Z ... Andy ...Gooden ... Larry Hughes in his prime ...Shannon Brown.... and a bunch of Knock down 3pt shooters and you are calling that one of the worst teams in history ?

Talk about a REACH....

Big Z, Andy, and Godden are good? Hughes was injured most of the season and shot a whopping 35% after he came back. He hasn't been the same player since. He clearly was a fit for the Wizards but was a chucker anywhere else.


It is better to lose in the conference finals in 7 than get swept in the finals?

I can make the same point. It is better to have 45 points in game 7 vs the Celtics, than lose to them by 39 in the finals in game 6 like Kobe did.


If Kobe is a better 3 point shooter, why isn't he shooting a higher %? LeBron is also taking 5 a game. First wing player since Jordan to average over 50% fg and 30 points.

I can see you don't like LeBron as a person and you're being biased, but basketball is about impact and NO ONE has more impact on the game right now than LeBron.


Better passer because he has worse teammates and is top 10 in assists in the league. It's pretty universally known that LeBron is the better passer and rebounder, and has been his whole career.

Kobe is a better mid-range player, but it doesn't matter because clearly no one can stop LeBron from getting his while Kobe is shooting 30+ times a game at 37%.



LeBron didn't have the luxury of landing on a team with one of the best players ever in Shaq. He doesn't have the luxury of scoring 15 ppg in the finals and STILL winning a ring. He can't afford that. In fact, he had 38 ppg against Orlando last year and still lost. Theres only so much he could have done.

Also, like I said earlier, when Kobe was on a team comparable to LeBron's, he didn't even make playoffs. Next two years, lost in the first round.

Team success is situational, and clearly he's been in the better situation for the majority of his career.

In any event, rings are compared when careers are over, not now. It's unfair to judge a 14 year career and compare it to a 7 year career.

At least make some points worth arguing about.


(P.S. you mention AI not having a team, and forget to mention Dikembe Mutumbo, one of the greatest defensive players EVER, and also conveniently fail to mention their road there didn't include Boston, or the Pistons (2 of the greatest defensive teams of the past 20 years).

"The whole point is Lebron isnt a champion. Need Proof ? Look at your own Avy fuloser... The guy is always TRYING to be something he isnt. Did he even graduate highschool ? Yet he is wearing a sports jacket with a crest as if he graduated from Harvard."

-It's a photoshoot haha. Your hate for LeBron is ridiculous. I know you were mad about last night (LeBron outplaying Kobe yet again in their matchups) but it happens.


If you want to claim Z/Andy/Gooden/Hughes were "good" please post their stats here from that year and compare them to any other team that has made the finals. Thanks

Mad about last night ?....In a game I didn't even watch or bet a nickle on ? YOU are obviously a male groupie.
Wishing as hard as you can that the player you look up to be worthy of you looking up to him. Sorry man but to any oldschool head ...he is just a whiny little bitch.

Like I have said 9 times... I can't stand Kobe either. But at LEAST Kobe learned some heart and professionalism over the years.

A photo shoot??? That is even WORSE. Lemme be pimped out representing something I'm not. Lemme know when you see Iverson doing a photo shoot like that.

Andy Gooden and Big Z ...TODAY would make up a top 10 front court in the NBA.

You put Micheal Jordan on that Cavs team with Z Andy and Gooden and He wins a Ring...and if he doesnt he sure as hell doesn't get swept. Ya I would rather lose by 38 in a close out game 6 then get SWEPT. Getting SWEPT in the finals is the WORST. You are just proving how inferrior your conference is and how the Championship was Over the second the WCF ended.

I guess Wade inheirited a monster HEAT team too.
When he won NBA Finals MVP in his first appearance. Maybe you need to just come back down to earth and realize what everyone else over the age of 25 realizes. This kid is an over hyped box with unmatched pysical gifts.

Anyone who says Lebron is a better shooter than Kobe obviously needs their head checked. 74% carear from the FT line !!! vrs 83%. Its funny how bad you REACH to prove a point... Can't compare rings but you can compare 3pt % over 40 games !
Ok well over the first 40 games of this season...how many rings does lebron have ? ...

Ohhh Ok ... still Zero.

You cant talk sense to haters...NOT is just a long winded DH..who cares that he got swept..it was against a DYNASTY in SA or do they suck as well???Look at the team h3e had and look at what he did to get there that year!!!You just suck at life

Crazy that people hate the kid so much...

 

 think I speak for 90% of the people who grew up following the NBA and in a Basketball culture when I say... Ya Lebron is a freakish athlete and can do things no other player in history could have done...but those are all physical gifts....open this kids chest and youll find nothing but an Ipod with Kanye West playing. He is the ScareCROW. He will NEVER get the respect of a legend.

 

Do you watch any of LBJs games ???

I guess all the interviews with legends of the game sucking his cock mean nothing...he may never get your respect but youre just some loser on a gambling site crying cause he beat you yet AGAIN...

Your arguments are retarded...tell us when you have a time machine so you can put Jordan on that Cavs team to prove youre right or STFU....

WHHHHAAAA Lebron is good and i dont like him WWWWWWWHHHAAAAAA

Andy Gooden and Big Z ...TODAY would make up a top 10 front court in the NBA.

Hold up...I'm getting called "crazy" and a "loser" from some guy who has an Avy of Jesus giving the finger ?

You serious ?

Oh you are from Ohio that explains it. I got a grand that says you play more play station basketball than you do REAL basketball. Sorry you don't know shit about the game.

Done talking about this box. Wake me up when he actually DOES SOMETHING.

Grown men on another  grown mans nuts isn't a good look. You sure like to call me alot of names bucknuts.

It means alot from someone who can't slap the backboard. It's "crazy" to me how you simple minded clowns can't grasp the concept that maybe a large majority of people above the age of 17 feel the same way I do. You have to justify it....Ohhh "he beat me AGAIN" . WTF does that even mean ? I dont think I have bet On or Against the Cavs all season. Just tired of seeing male groupies like you over hype this clown.

There is no getting through to a foolish child in love. Ohhh to be soooo young and in loveeee....

Last Question.

Do you have the Bron poster on the wall behind your computer above  the monitor ? or are you just BOLD about it and put it on the cieling over your bed so you can squeeze one out on those nights you  get REAL REAL frustrated hearing them talk about Kobe and Mello on PTI ?

 

Eh Don't answer...thats personal info I guess.

I'd like to go through and tell you why you are so terribly wrong on nearly every point you made but I'll save myself the time. If you reply and really want an explanation I'll be happy to give it to you. There is just so much information I'd have to post because nearly everything you said is wrong.

On a side note, Kobe is shooting 38% in January on 25 shot attempts per game. LeBron is hands down the best basketball player in the world right now and it's not even close.

It's always good to reflect on the past during nights like this.

And when you reflect, you see that the more things change, the more they stay the same.

The KING

Heat v. Mavericks for the title?

1 win away from the big show.

The KING back where he belongs.

From what I have seen,   in the last 2 games,    IT ISNT QUEEN JAMES  doing it,  but   Bosh and  others coming off the bench,      James  hasn't  shown much in this series.     To much hype  on this dude  that dont deserve it

This coming from bulls fan...Priceless

 Needing another star to get to the finals