Before the playoffs started I took Lakers +185, and Orlando at 15-1.
I get paid more if Lakers win, but I will gladly dump that if I can watch Harold Miner lose.
Before the playoffs started I took Lakers +185, and Orlando at 15-1.
I get paid more if Lakers win, but I will gladly dump that if I can watch Harold Miner lose.
people that go back and re-quote themselves are douchey.
people that go back and re-quote themselves are douchey.
I don't consider the Magic in Game 3 a pointspread loser at all. For anyone who considered betting on the Magic, this was a win or a push. Those, who for whatever reason, wound up laying -4.5 effectively beat themselves. I've said this many times on here before - no matter how much you may like a game, you cannot afford to bet BAD numbers and thus open the door for your book to snake you by half a point when he had no business even having the opportunity. Picking winners and overcoming the vig is tough enough. You can't afford to give away games by taking a point the worst of it. As much as I liked Orlando in Game 3, if I had been kidnapped on Sunday night and not freed until a half hour before gametime (when -4.5 was the universal line), I WOULD NOT HAVE MADE THE BET. I would have taken my chances with in-game wagering or a halftime wager, but ain't no way I would agree to lay -4.5 on a game where -3.5 and -4 were widely available for up to 36 hours after the line was first released. I would never let myself lose in that way. In that situation, in my opinion, no matter how in love you are with the game, you have to pass. You just can't leave the door wide open like that for your book to get lucky and beat you with +4.5.
Remember, the idea is to stick the bookie with a bad number, not the other way around. Ever.
I don't consider the Magic in Game 3 a pointspread loser at all. For anyone who considered betting on the Magic, this was a win or a push. Those, who for whatever reason, wound up laying -4.5 effectively beat themselves. I've said this many times on here before - no matter how much you may like a game, you cannot afford to bet BAD numbers and thus open the door for your book to snake you by half a point when he had no business even having the opportunity. Picking winners and overcoming the vig is tough enough. You can't afford to give away games by taking a point the worst of it. As much as I liked Orlando in Game 3, if I had been kidnapped on Sunday night and not freed until a half hour before gametime (when -4.5 was the universal line), I WOULD NOT HAVE MADE THE BET. I would have taken my chances with in-game wagering or a halftime wager, but ain't no way I would agree to lay -4.5 on a game where -3.5 and -4 were widely available for up to 36 hours after the line was first released. I would never let myself lose in that way. In that situation, in my opinion, no matter how in love you are with the game, you have to pass. You just can't leave the door wide open like that for your book to get lucky and beat you with +4.5.
Remember, the idea is to stick the bookie with a bad number, not the other way around. Ever.
I don't consider the Magic in Game 3 a pointspread loser at all. For anyone who considered betting on the Magic, this was a win or a push. Those, who for whatever reason, wound up laying -4.5 effectively beat themselves. I've said this many times on here before - no matter how much you may like a game, you cannot afford to bet BAD numbers and thus open the door for your book to snake you by half a point when he had no business even having the opportunity. Picking winners and overcoming the vig is tough enough. You can't afford to give away games by taking a point the worst of it. As much as I liked Orlando in Game 3, if I had been kidnapped on Sunday night and not freed until a half hour before gametime (when -4.5 was the universal line), I WOULD NOT HAVE MADE THE BET. I would have taken my chances with in-game wagering or a halftime wager, but ain't no way I would agree to lay -4.5 on a game where -3.5 and -4 were widely available for up to 36 hours after the line was first released. I would never let myself lose in that way. In that situation, in my opinion, no matter how in love you are with the game, you have to pass. You just can't leave the door wide open like that for your book to get lucky and beat you with +4.5.
Remember, the idea is to stick the bookie with a bad number, not the other way around. Ever.
I don't consider the Magic in Game 3 a pointspread loser at all. For anyone who considered betting on the Magic, this was a win or a push. Those, who for whatever reason, wound up laying -4.5 effectively beat themselves. I've said this many times on here before - no matter how much you may like a game, you cannot afford to bet BAD numbers and thus open the door for your book to snake you by half a point when he had no business even having the opportunity. Picking winners and overcoming the vig is tough enough. You can't afford to give away games by taking a point the worst of it. As much as I liked Orlando in Game 3, if I had been kidnapped on Sunday night and not freed until a half hour before gametime (when -4.5 was the universal line), I WOULD NOT HAVE MADE THE BET. I would have taken my chances with in-game wagering or a halftime wager, but ain't no way I would agree to lay -4.5 on a game where -3.5 and -4 were widely available for up to 36 hours after the line was first released. I would never let myself lose in that way. In that situation, in my opinion, no matter how in love you are with the game, you have to pass. You just can't leave the door wide open like that for your book to get lucky and beat you with +4.5.
Remember, the idea is to stick the bookie with a bad number, not the other way around. Ever.
I don't consider the Magic in Game 3 a pointspread loser at all. For anyone who considered betting on the Magic, this was a win or a push. Those, who for whatever reason, wound up laying -4.5 effectively beat themselves. I've said this many times on here before - no matter how much you may like a game, you cannot afford to bet BAD numbers and thus open the door for your book to snake you by half a point when he had no business even having the opportunity. Picking winners and overcoming the vig is tough enough. You can't afford to give away games by taking a point the worst of it. As much as I liked Orlando in Game 3, if I had been kidnapped on Sunday night and not freed until a half hour before gametime (when -4.5 was the universal line), I WOULD NOT HAVE MADE THE BET. I would have taken my chances with in-game wagering or a halftime wager, but ain't no way I would agree to lay -4.5 on a game where -3.5 and -4 were widely available for up to 36 hours after the line was first released. I would never let myself lose in that way. In that situation, in my opinion, no matter how in love you are with the game, you have to pass. You just can't leave the door wide open like that for your book to get lucky and beat you with +4.5.
Remember, the idea is to stick the bookie with a bad number, not the other way around. Ever.
I don't consider the Magic in Game 3 a pointspread loser at all. For anyone who considered betting on the Magic, this was a win or a push. Those, who for whatever reason, wound up laying -4.5 effectively beat themselves. I've said this many times on here before - no matter how much you may like a game, you cannot afford to bet BAD numbers and thus open the door for your book to snake you by half a point when he had no business even having the opportunity. Picking winners and overcoming the vig is tough enough. You can't afford to give away games by taking a point the worst of it. As much as I liked Orlando in Game 3, if I had been kidnapped on Sunday night and not freed until a half hour before gametime (when -4.5 was the universal line), I WOULD NOT HAVE MADE THE BET. I would have taken my chances with in-game wagering or a halftime wager, but ain't no way I would agree to lay -4.5 on a game where -3.5 and -4 were widely available for up to 36 hours after the line was first released. I would never let myself lose in that way. In that situation, in my opinion, no matter how in love you are with the game, you have to pass. You just can't leave the door wide open like that for your book to get lucky and beat you with +4.5.
Remember, the idea is to stick the bookie with a bad number, not the other way around. Ever.
No, I wrote that.
No, I wrote that.
I don't consider the Magic in Game 3 a pointspread loser at all. For anyone who considered betting on the Magic, this was a win or a push. Those, who for whatever reason, wound up laying -4.5 effectively beat themselves. I've said this many times on here before - no matter how much you may like a game, you cannot afford to bet BAD numbers and thus open the door for your book to snake you by half a point when he had no business even having the opportunity. Picking winners and overcoming the vig is tough enough. You can't afford to give away games by taking a point the worst of it. As much as I liked Orlando in Game 3, if I had been kidnapped on Sunday night and not freed until a half hour before gametime (when -4.5 was the universal line), I WOULD NOT HAVE MADE THE BET. I would have taken my chances with in-game wagering or a halftime wager, but ain't no way I would agree to lay -4.5 on a game where -3.5 and -4 were widely available for up to 36 hours after the line was first released. I would never let myself lose in that way. In that situation, in my opinion, no matter how in love you are with the game, you have to pass. You just can't leave the door wide open like that for your book to get lucky and beat you with +4.5.
Remember, the idea is to stick the bookie with a bad number, not the other way around. Ever.
I don't consider the Magic in Game 3 a pointspread loser at all. For anyone who considered betting on the Magic, this was a win or a push. Those, who for whatever reason, wound up laying -4.5 effectively beat themselves. I've said this many times on here before - no matter how much you may like a game, you cannot afford to bet BAD numbers and thus open the door for your book to snake you by half a point when he had no business even having the opportunity. Picking winners and overcoming the vig is tough enough. You can't afford to give away games by taking a point the worst of it. As much as I liked Orlando in Game 3, if I had been kidnapped on Sunday night and not freed until a half hour before gametime (when -4.5 was the universal line), I WOULD NOT HAVE MADE THE BET. I would have taken my chances with in-game wagering or a halftime wager, but ain't no way I would agree to lay -4.5 on a game where -3.5 and -4 were widely available for up to 36 hours after the line was first released. I would never let myself lose in that way. In that situation, in my opinion, no matter how in love you are with the game, you have to pass. You just can't leave the door wide open like that for your book to get lucky and beat you with +4.5.
Remember, the idea is to stick the bookie with a bad number, not the other way around. Ever.
Respectfully, I disagree with this advice.
Respectfully, I disagree with this advice.
Now that you mention it, hustle man, I recall reading Lang giving his customers the "never get beat by the hook" routine, where he implores his people to buy the half point. I remember thinking to myself "What a huge sleazebag. Sure, tell them to buy the hook, buy the hook. What do you care if your customers slowly get chiseled spending 10 cents for a half point as long as they avoid the occasional loss so your record can look slightly less horrid?"
Obviously, my advice above is not the same. I never recommend buying the hook (although a couple times I can remember doing it myself in football, buying a 9.5 -110 dog up to +10 -120, but that's probably not a bad idea, actually).
Now that you mention it, hustle man, I recall reading Lang giving his customers the "never get beat by the hook" routine, where he implores his people to buy the half point. I remember thinking to myself "What a huge sleazebag. Sure, tell them to buy the hook, buy the hook. What do you care if your customers slowly get chiseled spending 10 cents for a half point as long as they avoid the occasional loss so your record can look slightly less horrid?"
Obviously, my advice above is not the same. I never recommend buying the hook (although a couple times I can remember doing it myself in football, buying a 9.5 -110 dog up to +10 -120, but that's probably not a bad idea, actually).
As soon as the Magic finished off Cleveland, I thought about the Finals for about two minutes and my first square impulse was "Lakers in six." Then I started doing my reading and saw that I had plenty of company in figuring a 6-game Laker victory. That wasn't a good sign. Then President Obama again made the mistake of publicly picking one team over another (which I feel he should never do) when he said "Lakers in six." Now I had strong evidence that my initial lean was square. Then on ESPN.com, I saw a poll that revealed that 46% of respondents picked the Lakers in six. At that point, I began considering every possibility except the Lakers in six.
The most common thinking was that the Lakers would take the first two, lose badly in Game 3, bounce back and take Game 4, mail-in Game 5, then finish things up at home in Game 6. Well, that's too convenient, and it gives little respect to the Magic, treating them as if their one significant victory would come in Game 3 and that's it. I think the Lakers would have been better off laying down last night, then setting themselves up for their usual big bounceback effort in Game 4. That would be L.A.'s usual M.O., but instead they collectively chose to put forth a serious effort in Game 3 against what they knew would be Orlando's most desperate effort, and likely Orlando's best game so far in this series. I don't think that was a good idea. The Lakers gave it a great shot, but it didn't work, and now (and you can call me crazy for thinking this way) they've denied themselves the usual motivation of playing much sharper off a lackadaisical half-effort.
The Lakers bounced back successfully off of poor efforts against Houston in Games 1, 4, and 6, and again against Denver in Games 2 and 4. It probably wasn't hard to get extremely focused for the next game after bad losses like those, what with so much room to improve, but where do they go from here after giving it all they had against the Magic in Game 3 and coming up short? The Lakers seem like a team that needs to get beat up in the court of public opinion in order to get serious. Well, they're not going to get beat up for last night's strong game. They're probably not going to be able to summon up an effort any better than that one, which means Game 4 is up for grabs, with the edge in my opinion going to the home team that's won 80% of their home games this season.
To answer your question, hustle man, before I go and get even further long-winded and nonsensical, I'm thinking more and more that the Lakers won't win any of the games in Orlando, which contrasts with what I believed as recently as a couple days ago, that they would definetely get at least one, most likely Game 4. However, I also believe that if they return to L.A. down 3 games to 2, they will win both Games 6 and 7. I can't see Orlando finishing them off. The Magic have shown a few times that they can get tight late in a big game, and that just doesn't happen to the Lakers.
As soon as the Magic finished off Cleveland, I thought about the Finals for about two minutes and my first square impulse was "Lakers in six." Then I started doing my reading and saw that I had plenty of company in figuring a 6-game Laker victory. That wasn't a good sign. Then President Obama again made the mistake of publicly picking one team over another (which I feel he should never do) when he said "Lakers in six." Now I had strong evidence that my initial lean was square. Then on ESPN.com, I saw a poll that revealed that 46% of respondents picked the Lakers in six. At that point, I began considering every possibility except the Lakers in six.
The most common thinking was that the Lakers would take the first two, lose badly in Game 3, bounce back and take Game 4, mail-in Game 5, then finish things up at home in Game 6. Well, that's too convenient, and it gives little respect to the Magic, treating them as if their one significant victory would come in Game 3 and that's it. I think the Lakers would have been better off laying down last night, then setting themselves up for their usual big bounceback effort in Game 4. That would be L.A.'s usual M.O., but instead they collectively chose to put forth a serious effort in Game 3 against what they knew would be Orlando's most desperate effort, and likely Orlando's best game so far in this series. I don't think that was a good idea. The Lakers gave it a great shot, but it didn't work, and now (and you can call me crazy for thinking this way) they've denied themselves the usual motivation of playing much sharper off a lackadaisical half-effort.
The Lakers bounced back successfully off of poor efforts against Houston in Games 1, 4, and 6, and again against Denver in Games 2 and 4. It probably wasn't hard to get extremely focused for the next game after bad losses like those, what with so much room to improve, but where do they go from here after giving it all they had against the Magic in Game 3 and coming up short? The Lakers seem like a team that needs to get beat up in the court of public opinion in order to get serious. Well, they're not going to get beat up for last night's strong game. They're probably not going to be able to summon up an effort any better than that one, which means Game 4 is up for grabs, with the edge in my opinion going to the home team that's won 80% of their home games this season.
To answer your question, hustle man, before I go and get even further long-winded and nonsensical, I'm thinking more and more that the Lakers won't win any of the games in Orlando, which contrasts with what I believed as recently as a couple days ago, that they would definetely get at least one, most likely Game 4. However, I also believe that if they return to L.A. down 3 games to 2, they will win both Games 6 and 7. I can't see Orlando finishing them off. The Magic have shown a few times that they can get tight late in a big game, and that just doesn't happen to the Lakers.
Frogskins85, it's like you know me too well. When the betting's going good, the sun is shining, the birds are chirping, and someone can rear end my car and I'll cheerfully say "That's okay! I know a great body shop! They'll fix this in no time!" But when the tough losses come marching in like soldiers, nothing about the world is good. And if you're too serious about it like me, you don't even want to be a part of anything else until the tide turns, no matter how long that takes. That's......NOT a good thing. It really does take a different breed, and while you wouldn't recommend it to everyone, I would recommend it to no one.
Frogskins85, it's like you know me too well. When the betting's going good, the sun is shining, the birds are chirping, and someone can rear end my car and I'll cheerfully say "That's okay! I know a great body shop! They'll fix this in no time!" But when the tough losses come marching in like soldiers, nothing about the world is good. And if you're too serious about it like me, you don't even want to be a part of anything else until the tide turns, no matter how long that takes. That's......NOT a good thing. It really does take a different breed, and while you wouldn't recommend it to everyone, I would recommend it to no one.
Wait. Let the Laker love flow some more. I can feel Kobe Bryant's anxiety rising by the hour. He knows his reputation will take a terrible beating if he doesn't win this championship, and the "best closer in the game" is going to be pressing even more. I don't expect him to be denied in the end, but I expect this series victory to be as difficult as possible for him.
Wait. Let the Laker love flow some more. I can feel Kobe Bryant's anxiety rising by the hour. He knows his reputation will take a terrible beating if he doesn't win this championship, and the "best closer in the game" is going to be pressing even more. I don't expect him to be denied in the end, but I expect this series victory to be as difficult as possible for him.
Wait. Let the Laker love flow some more. I can feel Kobe Bryant's anxiety rising by the hour. He knows his reputation will take a terrible beating if he doesn't win this championship, and the "best closer in the game" is going to be pressing even more. I don't expect him to be denied in the end, but I expect this series victory to be as difficult as possible for him.
Wait. Let the Laker love flow some more. I can feel Kobe Bryant's anxiety rising by the hour. He knows his reputation will take a terrible beating if he doesn't win this championship, and the "best closer in the game" is going to be pressing even more. I don't expect him to be denied in the end, but I expect this series victory to be as difficult as possible for him.
I don't consider the Magic in Game 3 a pointspread loser at all. For anyone who considered betting on the Magic, this was a win or a push. Those, who for whatever reason, wound up laying -4.5 effectively beat themselves. I've said this many times on here before - no matter how much you may like a game, you cannot afford to bet BAD numbers and thus open the door for your book to snake you by half a point when he had no business even having the opportunity. Picking winners and overcoming the vig is tough enough. You can't afford to give away games by taking a point the worst of it. As much as I liked Orlando in Game 3, if I had been kidnapped on Sunday night and not freed until a half hour before gametime (when -4.5 was the universal line), I WOULD NOT HAVE MADE THE BET. I would have taken my chances with in-game wagering or a halftime wager, but ain't no way I would agree to lay -4.5 on a game where -3.5 and -4 were widely available for up to 36 hours after the line was first released. I would never let myself lose in that way. In that situation, in my opinion, no matter how in love you are with the game, you have to pass. You just can't leave the door wide open like that for your book to get lucky and beat you with +4.5.
Remember, the idea is to stick the bookie with a bad number, not the other way around. Ever.
One of the most overlooked asepcts of gambling. Those who are new to the game take notes as MrB speaks
I don't consider the Magic in Game 3 a pointspread loser at all. For anyone who considered betting on the Magic, this was a win or a push. Those, who for whatever reason, wound up laying -4.5 effectively beat themselves. I've said this many times on here before - no matter how much you may like a game, you cannot afford to bet BAD numbers and thus open the door for your book to snake you by half a point when he had no business even having the opportunity. Picking winners and overcoming the vig is tough enough. You can't afford to give away games by taking a point the worst of it. As much as I liked Orlando in Game 3, if I had been kidnapped on Sunday night and not freed until a half hour before gametime (when -4.5 was the universal line), I WOULD NOT HAVE MADE THE BET. I would have taken my chances with in-game wagering or a halftime wager, but ain't no way I would agree to lay -4.5 on a game where -3.5 and -4 were widely available for up to 36 hours after the line was first released. I would never let myself lose in that way. In that situation, in my opinion, no matter how in love you are with the game, you have to pass. You just can't leave the door wide open like that for your book to get lucky and beat you with +4.5.
Remember, the idea is to stick the bookie with a bad number, not the other way around. Ever.
One of the most overlooked asepcts of gambling. Those who are new to the game take notes as MrB speaks
As soon as the Magic finished off Cleveland, I thought about the Finals for about two minutes and my first square impulse was "Lakers in six." Then I started doing my reading and saw that I had plenty of company in figuring a 6-game Laker victory. That wasn't a good sign. Then President Obama again made the mistake of publicly picking one team over another (which I feel he should never do) when he said "Lakers in six." Now I had strong evidence that my initial lean was square. Then on ESPN.com, I saw a poll that revealed that 46% of respondents picked the Lakers in six. At that point, I began considering every possibility except the Lakers in six.
The most common thinking was that the Lakers would take the first two, lose badly in Game 3, bounce back and take Game 4, mail-in Game 5, then finish things up at home in Game 6. Well, that's too convenient, and it gives little respect to the Magic, treating them as if their one significant victory would come in Game 3 and that's it. I think the Lakers would have been better off laying down last night, then setting themselves up for their usual big bounceback effort in Game 4. That would be L.A.'s usual M.O., but instead they collectively chose to put forth a serious effort in Game 3 against what they knew would be Orlando's most desperate effort, and likely Orlando's best game so far in this series. I don't think that was a good idea. The Lakers gave it a great shot, but it didn't work, and now (and you can call me crazy for thinking this way) they've denied themselves the usual motivation of playing much sharper off a lackadaisical half-effort.
The Lakers bounced back successfully off of poor efforts against Houston in Games 1, 4, and 6, and again against Denver in Games 2 and 4. It probably wasn't hard to get extremely focused for the next game after bad losses like those, what with so much room to improve, but where do they go from here after giving it all they had against the Magic in Game 3 and coming up short? The Lakers seem like a team that needs to get beat up in the court of public opinion in order to get serious. Well, they're not going to get beat up for last night's strong game. They're probably not going to be able to summon up an effort any better than that one, which means Game 4 is up for grabs, with the edge in my opinion going to the home team that's won 80% of their home games this season.
To answer your question, hustle man, before I go and get even further long-winded and nonsensical, I'm thinking more and more that the Lakers won't win any of the games in Orlando, which contrasts with what I believed as recently as a couple days ago, that they would definetely get at least one, most likely Game 4. However, I also believe that if they return to L.A. down 3 games to 2, they will win both Games 6 and 7. I can't see Orlando finishing them off. The Magic have shown a few times that they can get tight late in a big game, and that just doesn't happen to the Lakers.
As soon as the Magic finished off Cleveland, I thought about the Finals for about two minutes and my first square impulse was "Lakers in six." Then I started doing my reading and saw that I had plenty of company in figuring a 6-game Laker victory. That wasn't a good sign. Then President Obama again made the mistake of publicly picking one team over another (which I feel he should never do) when he said "Lakers in six." Now I had strong evidence that my initial lean was square. Then on ESPN.com, I saw a poll that revealed that 46% of respondents picked the Lakers in six. At that point, I began considering every possibility except the Lakers in six.
The most common thinking was that the Lakers would take the first two, lose badly in Game 3, bounce back and take Game 4, mail-in Game 5, then finish things up at home in Game 6. Well, that's too convenient, and it gives little respect to the Magic, treating them as if their one significant victory would come in Game 3 and that's it. I think the Lakers would have been better off laying down last night, then setting themselves up for their usual big bounceback effort in Game 4. That would be L.A.'s usual M.O., but instead they collectively chose to put forth a serious effort in Game 3 against what they knew would be Orlando's most desperate effort, and likely Orlando's best game so far in this series. I don't think that was a good idea. The Lakers gave it a great shot, but it didn't work, and now (and you can call me crazy for thinking this way) they've denied themselves the usual motivation of playing much sharper off a lackadaisical half-effort.
The Lakers bounced back successfully off of poor efforts against Houston in Games 1, 4, and 6, and again against Denver in Games 2 and 4. It probably wasn't hard to get extremely focused for the next game after bad losses like those, what with so much room to improve, but where do they go from here after giving it all they had against the Magic in Game 3 and coming up short? The Lakers seem like a team that needs to get beat up in the court of public opinion in order to get serious. Well, they're not going to get beat up for last night's strong game. They're probably not going to be able to summon up an effort any better than that one, which means Game 4 is up for grabs, with the edge in my opinion going to the home team that's won 80% of their home games this season.
To answer your question, hustle man, before I go and get even further long-winded and nonsensical, I'm thinking more and more that the Lakers won't win any of the games in Orlando, which contrasts with what I believed as recently as a couple days ago, that they would definetely get at least one, most likely Game 4. However, I also believe that if they return to L.A. down 3 games to 2, they will win both Games 6 and 7. I can't see Orlando finishing them off. The Magic have shown a few times that they can get tight late in a big game, and that just doesn't happen to the Lakers.
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