I watch many very informative you tube basketball video's as the playoffs were going on.
Some interesting things I saw was, we all know LBJ broke Karrem's all-time pts scored but we never hear how LBJ also has the most TO's all-time, by a pretty good amount over the 2cd place player. And next season LBJ will become the all-time most missed shots leader as well. We never hear about this from the media do we ?
Now we can see what longevity produces, of course some good things but bad things as well, that's why you can't just look at breaking the scoring record as though that makes a player the GOAT.
LBJ no doubt is the GOAT of longevity, it'd be stupidity to argue against that. But longevity is only 1 part of a players overall legacy.
Did LBJ ave the most pts per game .......................nope. Not close.
But LBJ was 11th all-time for most TO's per game. Had MJ played 5 more years he'd have more pts then LBJ but with over 800 fewer TO's.
Then I looked this up, who created more possession for their team ? ...........................................................
LBJ --- ave 1.2 off rebs + 1.5 steals =2.7
MJ ---ave 1.6 off rebs + 2.3 steals =3.9
But LBJ has 3.5 TO's per game so, 3.5 -2.7 = (-.8) on ave LBJ lost possessions for his teams
MJ has 2.7 TO's so, 3.9 - 2.7 = +1.2, meanwhile MJ gains extra possessions for his teams.
A difference of 2, which in the NBA would be pretty good amount. Larry Bird once said why he dives on the floor for every loose ball even in the first minute of the game is because you never know what 1 play might be the difference to winning or losing the game.
People only talk about triple Doubles as though other parts of the game don't matter.
Some day I'll look more into this .......................
A great video to watch, and I have said this for years on how NBA Analyst shaper and form people's perception of sports and players, many times for the worse. Angry old hoops fan has a great video to show you this very thing, Reggie Miller take on a game with LBJ when he was horrendously bad but Miller Praise him that was not justified at any time.
Another rely great video by "angry old hoops fan", changing rules part 3 - traveling, I highly recommend you watch this video. They made the game so much easier for today's players and they still can't match MJ. I suspect that is why they did it because they needed a similar player to keep the league at the top of ratings.
He shows 1991 Finals, MJ's very 1st finals VS Magic and the Lakers. MJ called for traveling, he moved 1 foot like 3 or 4 inches before dribbling, traveling called on Pippen, called on Magic, watch it in normal speed and try to find the traveling, by todays standards that would not be remotely close to traveling.
I saw Joker in the post during the just completed 2024 playoffs in which he mover his pivot foot about the same amount as MJ, then he moved it a 2cd time about 6 to 8 inches still no traveling call, as he made the shot.
Then you will see in the video how crazy LBJ travels, like 5 steps one time with no call. One time he stop dribbling, grab ball with both hand then dribbled again, palmed the ball to push a guy out the way then continued dribbling to the basket with no call. And he still cannot match MJ who was called IN THE FINALS of all times for moving 1 foot 3 or 4 inches before dribbling.