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    There is only one New York team standing and it's playoff time. Time to Write them Up. Nets@Raptors!

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    Posted: Apr. 19, 2014 - 2:46 AM ET #1

    2013-2014 NBA Regular Season - 17-8 (68%)
    Games involving the Knicks - 8-2 (80%)
    Games involving the Nets - 3-1 (75%)

    Now you see why I wanted the Knicks to make the playoffs? There was a lot more money to be made. Too bad they couldn't comply.

    The game: Nets @ Raptors 12:30PM EST Line: Raps -3

    Why the Raps? Read on. There a A LOT of reasons worth your time and money in Game 1.

    There is one game and one game only which is by far the most solid bet in a series. It's not game 7. You won't even know if there will be a game 7. It's game one. Look at the predictor game 1 is for all playoff teams. It is by far the most important game to set a tone for a series, or if you are a dog, a game in which a victory will allow you to be competitive.

    The play in this game 1 is the the Raptors and here is why.

    1. Chip on the Shoulder

    Yes it's obvious. Yes I know you know about it. That doesn't make it any less relevant.

    The Nets rested everyone in their final game against the Cavs to get the Raptors in a very public blowout to the Cavs. Players hear what you hear. "The Nets do not want to meet the Bulls in Chicago in the first round. That's a very tough match-up! The Raptors? Yeah, I'll take them. Nets in 6 at worst."

    Do the Raptors hear this? Of course.

    Kidd: "The fourth or fifth seed doesn't matter to us." 

    Lo and behold, the Nets end up in the very seed which is worst of the two to play the team many think are worse than the Bulls and the Nets

    Do the Raptors see this? Of course.

    In a social media age, everything is public and it matters.

    The Raptors will have a score to settle here that extends beyond, talent, coaching and whatever is run on the floor.

    The Nets set the stage for that.

    ALL of that, from the players to the fans, will provide motivation against the billion dollar babies. 

    That is what we must gauge: motivation. While all teams have it during the playoffs, any additional motivation is quite welcome.

    You get that by picking the Raptors here.

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    2013-2014 NBA Regular Season - 17-8 (68%)
    Games involving the Knicks - 8-2 (80%)
    Games involving the Nets - 3-1 (75%)

    Now you see why I wanted the Knicks to make the playoffs? There was a lot more money to be made. Too bad they couldn't comply.

    The game: Nets @ Raptors 12:30PM EST Line: Raps -3

    Why the Raps? Read on. There a A LOT of reasons worth your time and money in Game 1.

    There is one game and one game only which is by far the most solid bet in a series. It's not game 7. You won't even know if there will be a game 7. It's game one. Look at the predictor game 1 is for all playoff teams. It is by far the most important game to set a tone for a series, or if you are a dog, a game in which a victory will allow you to be competitive.

    The play in this game 1 is the the Raptors and here is why.

    1. Chip on the Shoulder

    Yes it's obvious. Yes I know you know about it. That doesn't make it any less relevant.

    The Nets rested everyone in their final game against the Cavs to get the Raptors in a very public blowout to the Cavs. Players hear what you hear. "The Nets do not want to meet the Bulls in Chicago in the first round. That's a very tough match-up! The Raptors? Yeah, I'll take them. Nets in 6 at worst."

    Do the Raptors hear this? Of course.

    Kidd: "The fourth or fifth seed doesn't matter to us." 

    Lo and behold, the Nets end up in the very seed which is worst of the two to play the team many think are worse than the Bulls and the Nets

    Do the Raptors see this? Of course.

    In a social media age, everything is public and it matters.

    The Raptors will have a score to settle here that extends beyond, talent, coaching and whatever is run on the floor.

    The Nets set the stage for that.

    ALL of that, from the players to the fans, will provide motivation against the billion dollar babies. 

    That is what we must gauge: motivation. While all teams have it during the playoffs, any additional motivation is quite welcome.

    You get that by picking the Raptors here.

    Next reason.


     
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    Posted: Apr. 19, 2014 - 2:54 AM ET #2

    2. Who's Hot? Who's Not?

    You always want teams with momentum going into the playoffs. Again, to get all that momentum in the first game of the series is key.

    You get momentum with the Raptors and not so much, if any with the Nets.

    The Raptors going into the playoffs? They've won nine of their last 12 (and it really should be 10 of 12 since they had a 21 point lead against the Knicks and as soon as they saw the Bulls lose, treated it like a pick-up game). 

    They would have beat the Knicks by 30 if necessary (despite the Knicks resting players, they weren't even remotely competitive to start that game). 

    That is momentum and it is even better than a having a long winning streak you may think hangs over your head (something Popovic complained about with the Spurs with the recent streak and impending playoffs).

    The Nets? How is their momentum?

    There's not much to speak of.

    They come in losing 4 of their last 5  (0-5 ATS) with their last quality win coming in what seems like ages ago, on a Plumlee block on LBJ.

    So the conversation now is, were the Nets throwing all those games?

    I have said many times they weren't.

    Kidd is young but he is not stupid. But he misplayed his hand here.

    If you want to be a certain seed, be like the Heat. Lose with purpose and leave no doubt you are doing it. To finish out the season, a season in which they clearly wanted the two seed to avoid the Nets, they lost by 13 to the Hawks, by 21 to the Wizards and by 13 to the Sixers at home. 

    That is getting it done right and making no bones about it.

    Unfortunately, their plan backfired as the Nets caught them (if they get out of round 1).

    But did the Nets tank the last 5 games? How could they? They didn't know whether Chicago was going to be a 3 or a 4 and until the Bulls lost to the Knicks at home, it looked like the Bulls would pull out the 3rd seed. 

    So we have the following games the Nets finished up with:

    The Nets losing to the magic in Orlando 115-111.


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    2. Who's Hot? Who's Not?

    You always want teams with momentum going into the playoffs. Again, to get all that momentum in the first game of the series is key.

    You get momentum with the Raptors and not so much, if any with the Nets.

    The Raptors going into the playoffs? They've won nine of their last 12 (and it really should be 10 of 12 since they had a 21 point lead against the Knicks and as soon as they saw the Bulls lose, treated it like a pick-up game). 

    They would have beat the Knicks by 30 if necessary (despite the Knicks resting players, they weren't even remotely competitive to start that game). 

    That is momentum and it is even better than a having a long winning streak you may think hangs over your head (something Popovic complained about with the Spurs with the recent streak and impending playoffs).

    The Nets? How is their momentum?

    There's not much to speak of.

    They come in losing 4 of their last 5  (0-5 ATS) with their last quality win coming in what seems like ages ago, on a Plumlee block on LBJ.

    So the conversation now is, were the Nets throwing all those games?

    I have said many times they weren't.

    Kidd is young but he is not stupid. But he misplayed his hand here.

    If you want to be a certain seed, be like the Heat. Lose with purpose and leave no doubt you are doing it. To finish out the season, a season in which they clearly wanted the two seed to avoid the Nets, they lost by 13 to the Hawks, by 21 to the Wizards and by 13 to the Sixers at home. 

    That is getting it done right and making no bones about it.

    Unfortunately, their plan backfired as the Nets caught them (if they get out of round 1).

    But did the Nets tank the last 5 games? How could they? They didn't know whether Chicago was going to be a 3 or a 4 and until the Bulls lost to the Knicks at home, it looked like the Bulls would pull out the 3rd seed. 

    So we have the following games the Nets finished up with:

    The Nets losing to the magic in Orlando 115-111.


     
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    Nets fans will say they dumped. But look at all the minutes everyone got? Regular minutes. Only PP sat. And nets fans will say, "Look PP sat so they were throwing it." Ridiculous. They lost because they didn't play well and Orlando is no pushover at home.

    The Nets losing to the Hawks 93-88 at home.

    A suspect game Deron got rest in but when you look at the minutes, it's hardly a game key players were benched in. Still, a questionable loss in terms of effort.

    The Nets beating the Magic at home by 9. 

    Now if the Nets are absolutely trying to dump to get the 5 seed, why did Kidd put ALL the starters back in with under 6 minutes when the Magic cut it to 6?

    To set up a loss to the Knicks at home? Their arch-rival on national
    TV? Why win this Magic game to set up such a situation? 

    Makes the next performance very suspect.

    The Nets lose to the Knicks by 11. 

    Nets fans will go blue in the face telling you the Nets dumped this game.

    Then why did Kidd, an hour before tip announce all his starters would play (and they played significant minutes too, with the only reason their minutes being down was because they were getting blown out so bad)?

    Why did Kid keep Deron in the game when he hit the deck on one play?

    Why did Kidd keep PP and an aged KG in when they both took hard shots on two respective plays?

    These are questions that Nets fans can't and won't answer (and if they do their answers will be flimsy or suspect).

    So you simply ask the question like a defense attorney and then let the silence of the courtroom or the stutter of uncertainty tell the tale.

    Ultimately, the point is, the momentum lies with the Raptors and that is largely undebatable given these late season performances by the Nets, effort or otherwise.

    So we keep bolstering and bolstering the argument for the Raptors. 

    Onto the next point.

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    Nets fans will say they dumped. But look at all the minutes everyone got? Regular minutes. Only PP sat. And nets fans will say, "Look PP sat so they were throwing it." Ridiculous. They lost because they didn't play well and Orlando is no pushover at home.

    The Nets losing to the Hawks 93-88 at home.

    A suspect game Deron got rest in but when you look at the minutes, it's hardly a game key players were benched in. Still, a questionable loss in terms of effort.

    The Nets beating the Magic at home by 9. 

    Now if the Nets are absolutely trying to dump to get the 5 seed, why did Kidd put ALL the starters back in with under 6 minutes when the Magic cut it to 6?

    To set up a loss to the Knicks at home? Their arch-rival on national
    TV? Why win this Magic game to set up such a situation? 

    Makes the next performance very suspect.

    The Nets lose to the Knicks by 11. 

    Nets fans will go blue in the face telling you the Nets dumped this game.

    Then why did Kidd, an hour before tip announce all his starters would play (and they played significant minutes too, with the only reason their minutes being down was because they were getting blown out so bad)?

    Why did Kid keep Deron in the game when he hit the deck on one play?

    Why did Kidd keep PP and an aged KG in when they both took hard shots on two respective plays?

    These are questions that Nets fans can't and won't answer (and if they do their answers will be flimsy or suspect).

    So you simply ask the question like a defense attorney and then let the silence of the courtroom or the stutter of uncertainty tell the tale.

    Ultimately, the point is, the momentum lies with the Raptors and that is largely undebatable given these late season performances by the Nets, effort or otherwise.

    So we keep bolstering and bolstering the argument for the Raptors. 

    Onto the next point.

     
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    Posted: Apr. 19, 2014 - 2:55 AM ET #4

    3. 12:30 start time

    How many times did I harp on this point with the Knicks? Endlessly. Why? It paid off, big time.

    So why is it relevant here?

    First, I checked the Nets schedule and the Nets have had only 3 early start times this year (compared to six last year). Do you know why? Early start times don't get ratings and the Nets were supposed to be one of the biggest draws this year.

    They ended up going 1-2 ATS and SU in early start times. Not really material given the sample size.

    How did the Raptors do?

    They went 3-4 ATS And SU. Ok that's a bigger sample.

    But the Raptors had many more games early. Almost a tenth of a season, among the most in the league. More importantly, they got better as the season went along going 3-1 ATS and SU in their last 4.

    That's even more important when you look at the dates of when those games occurred.

    The nets last win in the afternoon came against the Knicks all the way back on January 20th. So it's been three months since the nets last early start.

    The Raptors on the other hand, had the following early games:

    3/2 104-99 W over golden State
    3/16 121-113 L to Suns
    3/23 96-86 W over ATL
    4/16 116-107 W over Detroit

    So essentially in six weeks heading to the playoffs, the Raptors have had 4 games early, among the most in the league while the nets had three total, all year!, and all when they were a completely different team very early in the season.

    Essentially the Raptors have been conditioned for an early game. Why did this happen? The Raptors simply aren't a draw and therefore when their games occur early, they usually happen at home and they fill voids for the league.

    The Nets were supposed to be a giant draw and had very few early games, among the lowest in the league. 

    So when this 12:30 pm start time popped up, you get an advantage for the Raptors who have this: almost a tenth of their games this season early, and a team that has fared well SU and ATS in them lately and they are playing a team that hasn't played early much at all.

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    3. 12:30 start time

    How many times did I harp on this point with the Knicks? Endlessly. Why? It paid off, big time.

    So why is it relevant here?

    First, I checked the Nets schedule and the Nets have had only 3 early start times this year (compared to six last year). Do you know why? Early start times don't get ratings and the Nets were supposed to be one of the biggest draws this year.

    They ended up going 1-2 ATS and SU in early start times. Not really material given the sample size.

    How did the Raptors do?

    They went 3-4 ATS And SU. Ok that's a bigger sample.

    But the Raptors had many more games early. Almost a tenth of a season, among the most in the league. More importantly, they got better as the season went along going 3-1 ATS and SU in their last 4.

    That's even more important when you look at the dates of when those games occurred.

    The nets last win in the afternoon came against the Knicks all the way back on January 20th. So it's been three months since the nets last early start.

    The Raptors on the other hand, had the following early games:

    3/2 104-99 W over golden State
    3/16 121-113 L to Suns
    3/23 96-86 W over ATL
    4/16 116-107 W over Detroit

    So essentially in six weeks heading to the playoffs, the Raptors have had 4 games early, among the most in the league while the nets had three total, all year!, and all when they were a completely different team very early in the season.

    Essentially the Raptors have been conditioned for an early game. Why did this happen? The Raptors simply aren't a draw and therefore when their games occur early, they usually happen at home and they fill voids for the league.

    The Nets were supposed to be a giant draw and had very few early games, among the lowest in the league. 

    So when this 12:30 pm start time popped up, you get an advantage for the Raptors who have this: almost a tenth of their games this season early, and a team that has fared well SU and ATS in them lately and they are playing a team that hasn't played early much at all.

     
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    4. How good are the Raptors this year?

    Better than you think. Forget the idea they were throwing the year. That team is a thing of the past.

    This team became MUCH better after they got rid of Rudy happy. I can personally attest that this guy is a offense kille (and what he gives up on the other end) despite his 20 PPG. It's why the Grizzlies for rid of him and why the Raptors did too. Why the Kings would want to keep and pay the guy is beyond me. But that's why Sacto is Sacto.

    So how did Rudy affect the Raps? Quite negatively. They were 6-12 SU with him and still got 48 wins this year. If you reverse that record (and there is an argument to do so) assuming he never played for them, you get six more net wins and this is a 54 win team. Even if you take 52 wins, you are looking at a team that would get much more respect in this spot and a game one line that is worse. They are 42-26 without him  with a 62% winning percentage.

    So the Rudy-less Raps are quite good, in a similar way the Nets are post-2013.

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    4. How good are the Raptors this year?

    Better than you think. Forget the idea they were throwing the year. That team is a thing of the past.

    This team became MUCH better after they got rid of Rudy happy. I can personally attest that this guy is a offense kille (and what he gives up on the other end) despite his 20 PPG. It's why the Grizzlies for rid of him and why the Raptors did too. Why the Kings would want to keep and pay the guy is beyond me. But that's why Sacto is Sacto.

    So how did Rudy affect the Raps? Quite negatively. They were 6-12 SU with him and still got 48 wins this year. If you reverse that record (and there is an argument to do so) assuming he never played for them, you get six more net wins and this is a 54 win team. Even if you take 52 wins, you are looking at a team that would get much more respect in this spot and a game one line that is worse. They are 42-26 without him  with a 62% winning percentage.

    So the Rudy-less Raps are quite good, in a similar way the Nets are post-2013.

     
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    5. Miscellaneous Points

    The Coach - While the Nets players have tons of post-season experience their rookie coach has none in his first playoff series ever where the brand of basketball changes. There has to be some kind of post-season learning curve here just as there was to start the season for him (and what a curve that was!). Even if it lasts for one game, that's all that matters. We only need the opening game here.

    Deron Williams - I gotta take a shot at him here. I saw him lay down in game one at home last year and game 7 at home as well vs. Chicago. No energy, no flair, no urgency. When the pressure is on, the guy folds like a beige polyester suit from the 70's. There is a lot of pressure here, the most he's seen all season. Will he learn from his mistake? I wouldn't put my money on it that he would. He may have a fine series but it is more probable than not he could come out flat tomorrow as he showed last year.

    Sweat Equity - Doug Collins used this term last night in the Pistons Bad Boys documentary. It refers to how many times the team has gutted it out in big spots together. Outside of PP and KG (and KG is really a nonfactor most of the time), the answer for this team is zero sweat equity. JJ, Deron PP KG + anyone else really haven't been here together. Raptors haven't either but they have home court and the chip on the shoulder and momentum. I'll take that over the nets better talent but nonexistent sweat equity in the opening game.

    Their games this year - 2-2 season series SU, all neck and neck except for one the Raps won convincingly. Yes the nets had 3 b2b's in those four where the raptors were the next game and they won 1 and lost 2 but the raps had a b2b in one which they lost one too. Overall, they play each other very tight and I'd take the home team with a very short line given all the above points.

    The crowd - when you see it tomorrow at 12:30, you will swallow hard if you have the Nets. This playoff starved crowd will be a 14th man and they will be loud and proud somewhat similar to what you see from the maniacs at Oracle. 

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    The Coach - While the Nets players have tons of post-season experience their rookie coach has none in his first playoff series ever where the brand of basketball changes. There has to be some kind of post-season learning curve here just as there was to start the season for him (and what a curve that was!). Even if it lasts for one game, that's all that matters. We only need the opening game here.

    Deron Williams - I gotta take a shot at him here. I saw him lay down in game one at home last year and game 7 at home as well vs. Chicago. No energy, no flair, no urgency. When the pressure is on, the guy folds like a beige polyester suit from the 70's. There is a lot of pressure here, the most he's seen all season. Will he learn from his mistake? I wouldn't put my money on it that he would. He may have a fine series but it is more probable than not he could come out flat tomorrow as he showed last year.

    Sweat Equity - Doug Collins used this term last night in the Pistons Bad Boys documentary. It refers to how many times the team has gutted it out in big spots together. Outside of PP and KG (and KG is really a nonfactor most of the time), the answer for this team is zero sweat equity. JJ, Deron PP KG + anyone else really haven't been here together. Raptors haven't either but they have home court and the chip on the shoulder and momentum. I'll take that over the nets better talent but nonexistent sweat equity in the opening game.

    Their games this year - 2-2 season series SU, all neck and neck except for one the Raps won convincingly. Yes the nets had 3 b2b's in those four where the raptors were the next game and they won 1 and lost 2 but the raps had a b2b in one which they lost one too. Overall, they play each other very tight and I'd take the home team with a very short line given all the above points.

    The crowd - when you see it tomorrow at 12:30, you will swallow hard if you have the Nets. This playoff starved crowd will be a 14th man and they will be loud and proud somewhat similar to what you see from the maniacs at Oracle. 

     
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    The line - It's essentially a money line at 2 and has now gone to 3 from 2.5 as I was writing this so I've had to update this part of the post. This will be a close game. I got in at 2 last night. I am not going to post the number I got it at because that number is no longer available to the reader at the time of this post. I can't say that you should be off this game at 3. It doesn't push me off this game but I'd prefer a ML at 3 just because this is the playoffs and you shouldn't give out even a single point if you don't have to. If an ML makes you more comfortable, take it. I don't cap games for 1 point though. The preferred line was 2 so we'll have to sweat 3 with money on the ML as well. Again, this will be close but there is enough here to even support even the -3. I went deeper with the write-up to justify that.

    There was such an overwhelming groundswell of support on the Nets Series line, it was driven up near -180! What's going to happen is that even if the nets lose game 1, the line has gone negative so far, that it may not even get back to what it opened at! (Probably, will but not if it keeps going up and certainly one game will not dissuade net backers that they won't still win this series). 

    Nets on the road? Not the same team at <.500 ATS. Their home invincibility has really spilled over to their overall play. It's not the same.

    After my Cavs/Hawks debacle, I wanted to go into the playoffs on a strong note. Since that game I've won 3 posts in a row: Heat over Knicks, Knicks over Raptors and Kings over Wolves. 3 in a row is strong and I want to continue to capitalize with my local teams.

    Now it's the playoffs and it's no more shi+ to gold. Everyone comes to play. The Raptors are a better play here. A boatload of info above supports that claim. To my knowledge LC and I have never been on the same side. Today we are both on the Raptors, not because he took my pick or I took his, but because this is a SOLID pick, and we both see it that way. And I am confident it will cash.

    The pick:

    RAPTORS -3 over NETS
    RAPTORS ML
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    The line - It's essentially a money line at 2 and has now gone to 3 from 2.5 as I was writing this so I've had to update this part of the post. This will be a close game. I got in at 2 last night. I am not going to post the number I got it at because that number is no longer available to the reader at the time of this post. I can't say that you should be off this game at 3. It doesn't push me off this game but I'd prefer a ML at 3 just because this is the playoffs and you shouldn't give out even a single point if you don't have to. If an ML makes you more comfortable, take it. I don't cap games for 1 point though. The preferred line was 2 so we'll have to sweat 3 with money on the ML as well. Again, this will be close but there is enough here to even support even the -3. I went deeper with the write-up to justify that.

    There was such an overwhelming groundswell of support on the Nets Series line, it was driven up near -180! What's going to happen is that even if the nets lose game 1, the line has gone negative so far, that it may not even get back to what it opened at! (Probably, will but not if it keeps going up and certainly one game will not dissuade net backers that they won't still win this series). 

    Nets on the road? Not the same team at <.500 ATS. Their home invincibility has really spilled over to their overall play. It's not the same.

    After my Cavs/Hawks debacle, I wanted to go into the playoffs on a strong note. Since that game I've won 3 posts in a row: Heat over Knicks, Knicks over Raptors and Kings over Wolves. 3 in a row is strong and I want to continue to capitalize with my local teams.

    Now it's the playoffs and it's no more shi+ to gold. Everyone comes to play. The Raptors are a better play here. A boatload of info above supports that claim. To my knowledge LC and I have never been on the same side. Today we are both on the Raptors, not because he took my pick or I took his, but because this is a SOLID pick, and we both see it that way. And I am confident it will cash.

    The pick:

    RAPTORS -3 over NETS
    RAPTORS ML
     
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    Like it. Nice write up bud
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    Very very nice write up. As I read n look back at those games u are 100% right about nets.. now by reading this I will slap 1g on Raptor hopefully my local bookie don't b adding .5 point make it 3.5.. then it b a no play for me..
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    Very very nice write up. As I read n look back at those games u are 100% right about nets.. now by reading this I will slap 1g on Raptor hopefully my local bookie don't b adding .5 point make it 3.5.. then it b a no play for me..
     
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    Like it. Nice write up bud
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    Quote Originally Posted by MonstarsInYoGrill:

    Let's roll.
    As usual...
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    Let's roll.
    As usual...
     
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    Nice write upwrite up
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    As always well done.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by harrypayne:

    Very very nice write up. As I read n look back at those games u are 100% right about nets.. now by reading this I will slap 1g on Raptor hopefully my local bookie don't b adding .5 point make it 3.5.. then it b a no play for me..

    No way. Do not let him screw you with 3.5. This number is not at 3.5 anywhere. Here's what you do. Tell him you want the Nets and he'll lowball you with the line at 2.5/3 and when he does, switch to the Raptors. That way, you'll lock him into the lowballed line on a side he thought you wanted but switched at the last second. He can't say the line changed in 2 seconds.
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    Very very nice write up. As I read n look back at those games u are 100% right about nets.. now by reading this I will slap 1g on Raptor hopefully my local bookie don't b adding .5 point make it 3.5.. then it b a no play for me..

    No way. Do not let him screw you with 3.5. This number is not at 3.5 anywhere. Here's what you do. Tell him you want the Nets and he'll lowball you with the line at 2.5/3 and when he does, switch to the Raptors. That way, you'll lock him into the lowballed line on a side he thought you wanted but switched at the last second. He can't say the line changed in 2 seconds.
     
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    Good luck Bro....

    you already know where im at... 

    Nets will get through this with the quickness. I do LOVE TORONTO though. 
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    Good luck Bro....

    you already know where im at... 

    Nets will get through this with the quickness. I do LOVE TORONTO though. 
     
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    Nice write upwrite up
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    Quote Originally Posted by 1bajalife:

    As always well done.....
    Appreciate that!
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    As always well done.....
    Appreciate that!
     
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    ps - Clipps is the play tomorrow at least for me it is. 
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    Quote Originally Posted by GeneCam27:

    Good luck Bro....

    you already know where im at... 

    Nets will get through this with the quickness. I do LOVE TORONTO though. 

    Of course, of course. It is a very solid play and the right side in both of our eyes. That is worth something.
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    Good luck Bro....

    you already know where im at... 

    Nets will get through this with the quickness. I do LOVE TORONTO though. 

    Of course, of course. It is a very solid play and the right side in both of our eyes. That is worth something.
     
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    GL bro lets cash
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    Quote Originally Posted by GeneCam27:

    ps - Clipps is the play tomorrow at least for me it is. 

    Clips ML parlayed with this for me when the ML's are released. Not crazy about laying chalk like that when Curry or Klay can backdoor that number as the seconds tick off to end the game.

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    ps - Clipps is the play tomorrow at least for me it is. 

    Clips ML parlayed with this for me when the ML's are released. Not crazy about laying chalk like that when Curry or Klay can backdoor that number as the seconds tick off to end the game.

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    Quote Originally Posted by scalabrine:


    Clips ML parlayed with this for me when the ML's are released. Not crazy about laying chalk like that when Curry or Klay can backdoor that number as the seconds tick off to end the game.

    @ eddie

    @Darkman  As always...
    Clipps will cover the 7 or 8....... Clipps are beast at home.... this series will be over 5 if not 4 games...... 

    I think i will parlay clipps ML OKC ML and Spurs ML for Sunday..... then hedge on dallas +400 for insurance. 

    i will be hitting the spread on the clipps..... they should cover.... 
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    Clips ML parlayed with this for me when the ML's are released. Not crazy about laying chalk like that when Curry or Klay can backdoor that number as the seconds tick off to end the game.

    @ eddie

    @Darkman  As always...
    Clipps will cover the 7 or 8....... Clipps are beast at home.... this series will be over 5 if not 4 games...... 

    I think i will parlay clipps ML OKC ML and Spurs ML for Sunday..... then hedge on dallas +400 for insurance. 

    i will be hitting the spread on the clipps..... they should cover.... 
     
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by GeneCam27:

    Clipps will cover the 7 or 8....... Clipps are beast at home.... this series will be over 5 if not 4 games...... 

    I think i will parlay clipps ML OKC ML and Spurs ML for Sunday..... then hedge on dallas +400 for insurance. 

    i will be hitting the spread on the clipps..... they should cover.... 

    Wow! Cover by 7/8 huh!? You're very confident then...

    I would want BeginnerBoy's endorsement before I pulled the trigger on that since he watches every warrior game and I know he said 'free money' for the series but not for this number.
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    Clipps will cover the 7 or 8....... Clipps are beast at home.... this series will be over 5 if not 4 games...... 

    I think i will parlay clipps ML OKC ML and Spurs ML for Sunday..... then hedge on dallas +400 for insurance. 

    i will be hitting the spread on the clipps..... they should cover.... 

    Wow! Cover by 7/8 huh!? You're very confident then...

    I would want BeginnerBoy's endorsement before I pulled the trigger on that since he watches every warrior game and I know he said 'free money' for the series but not for this number.
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