Well, most of you probably care about sides (i.e. which team will win), but I care more about totals, this is my favorite bet and although betting on sides is much more "exciting" and full of "heart beating" especially in games like this and probably most of you think when I say "RIGGED" I'm referring to the doubtful call by the refs about DeAndre Jordan's interference with the rim - I'd like to refer ONLY to totals in my analysis, so I'd like to point you out to the following:
There were 2 NBA games "tonight" (US time zone). One between the Houston Rockets and the Dallas Mavericks. Another between the San Antonio Spurs and the Los Angeles Clippers aka (=also known as) CP3.
The total line between HOU/DAL was 222.5 which dropped to 221.5 before the game. The total line between SAS/LAC was 205 which dropped to 203.5 before the game.
I first looked at the HOU/DAL game. The line in half-time dropped to 215.5 and then in the beginning of Q3 (=the 3rd quarter) the line went to 216.5 during the first time out, then it was pretty much going slightly up to 222.5 at peak. However the end of Q3 made the line drops all the way down to 213.5 which was the line at the beginning of Q4 and since then it kept on dropping all the way and the game ended 103-94 (197 points in total).
In games like this Oddsmakers make the line go up in the beginning of the Q3 because of intense scoring, the bettor feels like this would go over and place bets on the over - and then all of a sudden when the pace is changing - the bettor realizes he lost his money.
Same applies for Q4 - many bettors saw the line dropping and dropping and dropping - thought of a chance of picking the OVER and then realized the game has not exceeded such expectations but their money was "invested" on the wrong outcome.
Now let's move to the SAS/LAC game that followed the HOU/DAL game.
The line at half-time was 210.5 and this is where I chose to place my bet. I was expecting the line to drop during Q3 just as happened with the HOU/DAL game (the line there went up in Q3 and then dropped - here I expected the opposite to occur).
The reason I didn't bet in live during Q3 (e.g. picking OVER 203.5 for instance) is because it's much harder to place bets in live when the game actually takes place, and you could get screwed with the odds likewise, so for me it was enough to pick the direction for the game and ride on it.
And indeed during Q3 first 6 minutes when the clock showed 6:09 the score was 62-60 .. the live line went down to 199.5 at peak!
And this is where the Oddsmakers make all the profit - the pace of the game changes and then all of a sudden many "UNDER" bettors find their bets losing.
This psychology seems to work so well in the NBA and I'm wondering so much how exactly those players execute all these trends in such perfection!
Those players are 100% tools who are there not only to run a show for the crowd but also to help Vegas milk bettors' money ... pay attention to the lines ... you got 2 games, the total lines should have completed switched ... the 222.5 was more accommodating for the SAS/LAC game and the 203.5 was more accommodating for the HOU/DAL game.
The oddsmakers have systems that play with all this psychology in the gambler's head ... yes, I'm one of those affected by it, but what I wanted to show you with all this analysis - is that the NBA can be in someway and in certain games predicted. It has more value than Roulette because with Roulette you can never know whether the winning color would be Red or Black but with the NBA these are organizations, literally a sort of a "mafia" running the show.
Scoring over 40 points in less than 6 minutes in the 3rd quarter is possible but it has much more RIGGED reasons behind it, and those who disagree - are welcome to disagree, however all this evidence is crystal clear to me.
That's the end of what I wanted to say. Those are screenshots I saved showing the moment when my bet won as well as the score after the timeout that followed it:
Well, most of you probably care about sides (i.e. which team will win), but I care more about totals, this is my favorite bet and although betting on sides is much more "exciting" and full of "heart beating" especially in games like this and probably most of you think when I say "RIGGED" I'm referring to the doubtful call by the refs about DeAndre Jordan's interference with the rim - I'd like to refer ONLY to totals in my analysis, so I'd like to point you out to the following:
There were 2 NBA games "tonight" (US time zone). One between the Houston Rockets and the Dallas Mavericks. Another between the San Antonio Spurs and the Los Angeles Clippers aka (=also known as) CP3.
The total line between HOU/DAL was 222.5 which dropped to 221.5 before the game. The total line between SAS/LAC was 205 which dropped to 203.5 before the game.
I first looked at the HOU/DAL game. The line in half-time dropped to 215.5 and then in the beginning of Q3 (=the 3rd quarter) the line went to 216.5 during the first time out, then it was pretty much going slightly up to 222.5 at peak. However the end of Q3 made the line drops all the way down to 213.5 which was the line at the beginning of Q4 and since then it kept on dropping all the way and the game ended 103-94 (197 points in total).
In games like this Oddsmakers make the line go up in the beginning of the Q3 because of intense scoring, the bettor feels like this would go over and place bets on the over - and then all of a sudden when the pace is changing - the bettor realizes he lost his money.
Same applies for Q4 - many bettors saw the line dropping and dropping and dropping - thought of a chance of picking the OVER and then realized the game has not exceeded such expectations but their money was "invested" on the wrong outcome.
Now let's move to the SAS/LAC game that followed the HOU/DAL game.
The line at half-time was 210.5 and this is where I chose to place my bet. I was expecting the line to drop during Q3 just as happened with the HOU/DAL game (the line there went up in Q3 and then dropped - here I expected the opposite to occur).
The reason I didn't bet in live during Q3 (e.g. picking OVER 203.5 for instance) is because it's much harder to place bets in live when the game actually takes place, and you could get screwed with the odds likewise, so for me it was enough to pick the direction for the game and ride on it.
And indeed during Q3 first 6 minutes when the clock showed 6:09 the score was 62-60 .. the live line went down to 199.5 at peak!
And this is where the Oddsmakers make all the profit - the pace of the game changes and then all of a sudden many "UNDER" bettors find their bets losing.
This psychology seems to work so well in the NBA and I'm wondering so much how exactly those players execute all these trends in such perfection!
Those players are 100% tools who are there not only to run a show for the crowd but also to help Vegas milk bettors' money ... pay attention to the lines ... you got 2 games, the total lines should have completed switched ... the 222.5 was more accommodating for the SAS/LAC game and the 203.5 was more accommodating for the HOU/DAL game.
The oddsmakers have systems that play with all this psychology in the gambler's head ... yes, I'm one of those affected by it, but what I wanted to show you with all this analysis - is that the NBA can be in someway and in certain games predicted. It has more value than Roulette because with Roulette you can never know whether the winning color would be Red or Black but with the NBA these are organizations, literally a sort of a "mafia" running the show.
Scoring over 40 points in less than 6 minutes in the 3rd quarter is possible but it has much more RIGGED reasons behind it, and those who disagree - are welcome to disagree, however all this evidence is crystal clear to me.
That's the end of what I wanted to say. Those are screenshots I saved showing the moment when my bet won as well as the score after the timeout that followed it:
whats funny is he tellin u idiots the real but if I was him I wouldn't try to educate u nieve idiots 1 bit all of u believing all pro sports aren't rigged is pure idiots they play to a spread and to entertain to keep the seats sold out vegas and NBA go hand and hand only God himself could put up spreads and they all land right on the number day n and day out don't b fools I mean continue to be fools it's better that way
Holy garbage, can you use a fkn comma or period please. I couldn't read past the first line without my IQ dropping substantially.
Is this the guy that educates you? If so, I'll be happy to be a naive idiot.
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Quote Originally Posted by Kinggoat21:
whats funny is he tellin u idiots the real but if I was him I wouldn't try to educate u nieve idiots 1 bit all of u believing all pro sports aren't rigged is pure idiots they play to a spread and to entertain to keep the seats sold out vegas and NBA go hand and hand only God himself could put up spreads and they all land right on the number day n and day out don't b fools I mean continue to be fools it's better that way
Holy garbage, can you use a fkn comma or period please. I couldn't read past the first line without my IQ dropping substantially.
Is this the guy that educates you? If so, I'll be happy to be a naive idiot.
So do you suggest waiting for 6 min yimeout at fourth quarter to place a bet
No, I am not suggesting here any given "rules" for the NBA. I read somewhere someone calling sportsbetting an "art", it's a sort of something you can "paint" so you need to paint the picture of what the oddsmakers is trying to gain from setting the line on this and this point. There are no guarantees and me personally will have hard time doing this on a daily basis, I enjoy doing it from time to time - here is my last 910 GBP win from a regular game in the NBA (which also involved the Spurs):
The point you need to learn is that MANY TIMES but not always the pace of the game will change, and you need to go against the current pace of the game. For me watching the trend is helpful ... I saw the live line for this game standing on 213.5 with 2 minutes to the end of Q2 and the fact that it dropped only made me more certain about picking the OVER (if they scored too many points at the end of Q2 I would be worried - see Portland/Memphis last game, look at the Play-By-Play in the NBA.com or ESPN website, see how they scored like 16 points with virtually less than 2 minutes remaining for half-time --> live line went up to 198.5, original line was 190.5 - this is a perfect spot for you to hit UNDER) - but again it's hard to explain it ... it's just a sort of reading what's standing behind the game ... and I usually bet small amount when I'm uncertain ... the 1000 GBP bets that I place is only when I'm dead-certain that I managed to read the trend of the game.
But personally, I'd be much better without gambling in life ... dealing with all this is not healthy, I can tell you that 100%.
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Quote Originally Posted by guyhopestowin:
So do you suggest waiting for 6 min yimeout at fourth quarter to place a bet
No, I am not suggesting here any given "rules" for the NBA. I read somewhere someone calling sportsbetting an "art", it's a sort of something you can "paint" so you need to paint the picture of what the oddsmakers is trying to gain from setting the line on this and this point. There are no guarantees and me personally will have hard time doing this on a daily basis, I enjoy doing it from time to time - here is my last 910 GBP win from a regular game in the NBA (which also involved the Spurs):
The point you need to learn is that MANY TIMES but not always the pace of the game will change, and you need to go against the current pace of the game. For me watching the trend is helpful ... I saw the live line for this game standing on 213.5 with 2 minutes to the end of Q2 and the fact that it dropped only made me more certain about picking the OVER (if they scored too many points at the end of Q2 I would be worried - see Portland/Memphis last game, look at the Play-By-Play in the NBA.com or ESPN website, see how they scored like 16 points with virtually less than 2 minutes remaining for half-time --> live line went up to 198.5, original line was 190.5 - this is a perfect spot for you to hit UNDER) - but again it's hard to explain it ... it's just a sort of reading what's standing behind the game ... and I usually bet small amount when I'm uncertain ... the 1000 GBP bets that I place is only when I'm dead-certain that I managed to read the trend of the game.
But personally, I'd be much better without gambling in life ... dealing with all this is not healthy, I can tell you that 100%.
I kind of stand corrected,,,,, Your fixation on fixation is still obviously nuttier than squirrel garbage IMO,,
but dammn it,,,, you did at least take the time to post an old school power point presentation for your "rigged theory on totals" theory
I believe the guy who posted below you (the post below yours) already said everything that I could tell you in response:
Quote Originally Posted by Kinggoat21:
It's funny how ppl that
believe in bs is always the ones calling the ppl that no what's trueky
goin on nutty smh life is crazy but I've said it before I'll say it
again vegas loves suckers
But I like your sense of humor though, keep it up and use it with girls in case you need to (I don't ... I'm 30 years old, just turned 30 this week, married, expecting a baby in 8 months, and hopefully finishing my BSc (hons) in Computing & IT and Business in 1 month and 1 week) so I'm going to set aside myself from the Playoffs as much as I can despite the fact I really I love it (that was one of the reasons I placed a huge bet today, to get it "over" with) ... luckily it's played very early in the morning so it's good for me ... and yes, I'm going to concentrate on my final exam/project as I need to score over 70 there to keep it as 2.1 degree (otherwise it would be 2.2 and I'd love to avoid it).
2.1 = Upper Second Class 2.2 = Lower Second Class
It's a type of classification of your degree in the UK.
PS I did learn about the gambling industry during my Business studies so trust me I'm not making up things just out of the blue.
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Quote Originally Posted by iceman67:
I kind of stand corrected,,,,, Your fixation on fixation is still obviously nuttier than squirrel garbage IMO,,
but dammn it,,,, you did at least take the time to post an old school power point presentation for your "rigged theory on totals" theory
I believe the guy who posted below you (the post below yours) already said everything that I could tell you in response:
Quote Originally Posted by Kinggoat21:
It's funny how ppl that
believe in bs is always the ones calling the ppl that no what's trueky
goin on nutty smh life is crazy but I've said it before I'll say it
again vegas loves suckers
But I like your sense of humor though, keep it up and use it with girls in case you need to (I don't ... I'm 30 years old, just turned 30 this week, married, expecting a baby in 8 months, and hopefully finishing my BSc (hons) in Computing & IT and Business in 1 month and 1 week) so I'm going to set aside myself from the Playoffs as much as I can despite the fact I really I love it (that was one of the reasons I placed a huge bet today, to get it "over" with) ... luckily it's played very early in the morning so it's good for me ... and yes, I'm going to concentrate on my final exam/project as I need to score over 70 there to keep it as 2.1 degree (otherwise it would be 2.2 and I'd love to avoid it).
2.1 = Upper Second Class 2.2 = Lower Second Class
It's a type of classification of your degree in the UK.
PS I did learn about the gambling industry during my Business studies so trust me I'm not making up things just out of the blue.
It's funny how ppl that believe in bs is always the ones calling the ppl that no what's trueky goin on nutty smh life is crazy but I've said it before I'll say it again vegas loves suckers
I was a sort of a sucker, I risked 1000 GBP and got only 833.33 GBP back, so it's like I lost 17% of what I risked automatically ... if I was to risk another 1000 GBP in another game and lose I would end up having 170 GBP less than the original stake (1000 GBP).
That's what bookmakers do, they make money regardless of the outcome.
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Quote Originally Posted by Kinggoat21:
It's funny how ppl that believe in bs is always the ones calling the ppl that no what's trueky goin on nutty smh life is crazy but I've said it before I'll say it again vegas loves suckers
I was a sort of a sucker, I risked 1000 GBP and got only 833.33 GBP back, so it's like I lost 17% of what I risked automatically ... if I was to risk another 1000 GBP in another game and lose I would end up having 170 GBP less than the original stake (1000 GBP).
That's what bookmakers do, they make money regardless of the outcome.
During the 3rd Quarter the score was 62-61 (scored only 16 points) for 6 and a half minutes, so you would expect the line to go UNDER in such occasion, won't you?
But then in 5 minutes and a half they managed to score 41 points and the pace has changed completely.
What you describe is as if games don't have a change of pace but they do and it occurred in both of the 2 games that took place tonight. Both of them had a change of space ... the HOU/DAL had a pace of going OVER in the beginning of the 3Q and towards the end it it quickly went UNDER, and the SAS/LAC had a pace of going UNDER in the beginning of the 3Q and towards the end of it it quickly went OVER.
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Quote Originally Posted by LIanafranks5:
No need for a huge explanation. I didn't even read all that.
I can tell you in 2 sentences how they rig totals. So obvious, I've been on the winning and losing sides before.
If it's rigged to go under, they will stand around, pass the ball to each other and run out the shot clock to nearly 0 before they take a shot.
If it's rigged to go over, they will play fast tempo the entire game. So no matter how many shots they miss, it will go over, guaranteed.
Just like if it's rigged to go under, they control the clock and make sure it goes under.
So, it's really that simple. I guess I'll read your explanation but it seemed kinda long for something so simple to see.
If this was true then this game should have gone UNDER just like this guy was expecting:
During the 3rd Quarter the score was 62-61 (scored only 16 points) for 6 and a half minutes, so you would expect the line to go UNDER in such occasion, won't you?
But then in 5 minutes and a half they managed to score 41 points and the pace has changed completely.
What you describe is as if games don't have a change of pace but they do and it occurred in both of the 2 games that took place tonight. Both of them had a change of space ... the HOU/DAL had a pace of going OVER in the beginning of the 3Q and towards the end it it quickly went UNDER, and the SAS/LAC had a pace of going UNDER in the beginning of the 3Q and towards the end of it it quickly went OVER.
Well I should of explained myself more I guess...lol
They do change pace yes. But I'm talking about when it matters. Other times they make it a coin flip right around the spread. It will go over or under by 1 or 2 pts...to keep things random I guess. So, I don't believe every game is 100% staged for a certain total. I believe most of them are and some are staged to be a 50/50 right around the total.
But the ones where they all of a suidden slow the pace when they realize they scoring too much are the obvious rigged under games. It happens usually in the 4th, they will make sure they go under and like a charm, they always do. You just have to know how to spot it. I can't really describe it in detail when they do it. It's just obvious when watching it, usually. Not everytime. Sometimes they fool you, and that is probably because people do IN GAME bets so they must get these people too.
Vegas aren't fools, they have all avenues covered. It's like they want most games to come down to the spread, but they also need blowouts each night as well to bust teaser bettors.
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Well I should of explained myself more I guess...lol
They do change pace yes. But I'm talking about when it matters. Other times they make it a coin flip right around the spread. It will go over or under by 1 or 2 pts...to keep things random I guess. So, I don't believe every game is 100% staged for a certain total. I believe most of them are and some are staged to be a 50/50 right around the total.
But the ones where they all of a suidden slow the pace when they realize they scoring too much are the obvious rigged under games. It happens usually in the 4th, they will make sure they go under and like a charm, they always do. You just have to know how to spot it. I can't really describe it in detail when they do it. It's just obvious when watching it, usually. Not everytime. Sometimes they fool you, and that is probably because people do IN GAME bets so they must get these people too.
Vegas aren't fools, they have all avenues covered. It's like they want most games to come down to the spread, but they also need blowouts each night as well to bust teaser bettors.
But sometimes just having insight is all you need. Like I played the Dallas Under play today on one of my parlays simply because I knew Dallas wouldn't score as much as they did at home, and it would be hard to get that game to go over. I didn't let the amount of the total fool me. I know vegas sets em way too high sometimes. Actually very often they do.
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But sometimes just having insight is all you need. Like I played the Dallas Under play today on one of my parlays simply because I knew Dallas wouldn't score as much as they did at home, and it would be hard to get that game to go over. I didn't let the amount of the total fool me. I know vegas sets em way too high sometimes. Actually very often they do.
But rigged or not- They can't rig it bad enough for the game to go over tonight, even if that's what they wanted... I don't think dallas missed all those shots on purpose. They even missed a wide open dunk, that's how bad they were.
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But rigged or not- They can't rig it bad enough for the game to go over tonight, even if that's what they wanted... I don't think dallas missed all those shots on purpose. They even missed a wide open dunk, that's how bad they were.
Lianafranks. Summing up what you're saying, you believe nba players listen to Vegas and throw the game or rig it so VEGAS wins more money? They would rather Vegas win more money than win a championship. You.Are.A.Moron
You win the argument, I'm not going to comeback to hear whatever dumb rebuttal you come up with
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Lianafranks. Summing up what you're saying, you believe nba players listen to Vegas and throw the game or rig it so VEGAS wins more money? They would rather Vegas win more money than win a championship. You.Are.A.Moron
You win the argument, I'm not going to comeback to hear whatever dumb rebuttal you come up with
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