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Would you fold pocket aces preflop against a table of pros? If not, then you should make this pick.

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Dr_Baseball

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Posted: Feb. 28, 2016 - 4:15 PM ET #51

Fantastic write up Scal - I always keep an eye out for your posts. Hope to see more soon! :-)

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naesiy

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Posted: Feb. 28, 2016 - 5:22 PM ET #52

Late to the party but two things:

1. IMO, backing OKC at home does not equate to having pocket aces preflop...not even close...

2. Going back to the amateur's decision to fold AA, it's not a bad decision. Personally, I wouldn't have cause I can easily avoid overplaying my one pair of aces. OTOH, there are alot of people out there who CAN'T and will live/die by their premium hands, even post flop on a super wet board. Maybe this is one of those guys and he recognizes it. Some other things:

I seen this vid before but can't remember if it really is Pot limit or NL. If it IS pot limit, that makes it even more reason for him to fold preflop if he isn't confident with his skills...If I remember correctly, this guy was free rolled and everything he was up he was taking home...why risk his hard earned or even lucky winnings? He could easily have lost 25%-35% (or even more) of his 100K (?) stack on this single hand even playing it safe post flop. Or a lot more if he makes a mistake. If he doesn't spike an A on the flop, it's tougher to play this hand, particularly in PL..do you protect? do you check down hoping for a cheap showdown? Why subject yourself to hard decisions when you can stand the win very easily and only play the absolute nuts? Especially with a raise in front of you from Phil Laak who could have nearly anything in that spot which leads to no reliable post flop reads. If you can't play your hand with confidence, you're better off not playing it at all.

Like I said, me personally, I'm taking a flop. If it's NL and not PL, I'm DEFINATELY taking a flop to see if I can spike a set...set comes, I'm all in, forget extracting value.

Just my opinion...lol

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scalabrine

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Posted: Feb. 28, 2016 - 6:30 PM ET #53

Quote Originally Posted by naesiy:

Late to the party but two things:

1. IMO, backing OKC at home does not equate to having pocket aces preflop...not even close...

2. Going back to the amateur's decision to fold AA, it's not a bad decision. Personally, I wouldn't have cause I can easily avoid overplaying my one pair of aces. OTOH, there are alot of people out there who CAN'T and will live/die by their premium hands, even post flop on a super wet board. Maybe this is one of those guys and he recognizes it. Some other things:

I seen this vid before but can't remember if it really is Pot limit or NL. If it IS pot limit, that makes it even more reason for him to fold preflop if he isn't confident with his skills...If I remember correctly, this guy was free rolled and everything he was up he was taking home...why risk his hard earned or even lucky winnings? He could easily have lost 25%-35% (or even more) of his 100K (?) stack on this single hand even playing it safe post flop. Or a lot more if he makes a mistake. If he doesn't spike an A on the flop, it's tougher to play this hand, particularly in PL..do you protect? do you check down hoping for a cheap showdown? Why subject yourself to hard decisions when you can stand the win very easily and only play the absolute nuts? Especially with a raise in front of you from Phil Laak who could have nearly anything in that spot which leads to no reliable post flop reads. If you can't play your hand with confidence, you're better off not playing it at all.

Like I said, me personally, I'm taking a flop. If it's NL and not PL, I'm DEFINATELY taking a flop to see if I can spike a set...set comes, I'm all in, forget extracting value.

Just my opinion...lol

@naesly - except it wasn't JUST backing OKC at home. It was backing OKC at home +3.5, a line that is virtually nonexistent whenever Durant and Westbrook are healthy and a line that hasn't existed all season. It was Vegas overadjusting a line for their benefit as the public heaped on GS. And those points proved immensely important...every single .5 of every one.

And that line held up. And not only did it hold up, GS did not lead by 4 the entire 48 minutes and all of OT. If that's not pocket aces holding up after the kitchen sink is thrown at ya, I don't know is!

It was pot limit by the way....

@Dr - appreciate it!

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Quote Originally Posted by naesiy:

Late to the party but two things:

1. IMO, backing OKC at home does not equate to having pocket aces preflop...not even close...

2. Going back to the amateur's decision to fold AA, it's not a bad decision. Personally, I wouldn't have cause I can easily avoid overplaying my one pair of aces. OTOH, there are alot of people out there who CAN'T and will live/die by their premium hands, even post flop on a super wet board. Maybe this is one of those guys and he recognizes it. Some other things:

I seen this vid before but can't remember if it really is Pot limit or NL. If it IS pot limit, that makes it even more reason for him to fold preflop if he isn't confident with his skills...If I remember correctly, this guy was free rolled and everything he was up he was taking home...why risk his hard earned or even lucky winnings? He could easily have lost 25%-35% (or even more) of his 100K (?) stack on this single hand even playing it safe post flop. Or a lot more if he makes a mistake. If he doesn't spike an A on the flop, it's tougher to play this hand, particularly in PL..do you protect? do you check down hoping for a cheap showdown? Why subject yourself to hard decisions when you can stand the win very easily and only play the absolute nuts? Especially with a raise in front of you from Phil Laak who could have nearly anything in that spot which leads to no reliable post flop reads. If you can't play your hand with confidence, you're better off not playing it at all.

Like I said, me personally, I'm taking a flop. If it's NL and not PL, I'm DEFINATELY taking a flop to see if I can spike a set...set comes, I'm all in, forget extracting value.

Just my opinion...lol

@naesly - except it wasn't JUST backing OKC at home. It was backing OKC at home +3.5, a line that is virtually nonexistent whenever Durant and Westbrook are healthy and a line that hasn't existed all season. It was Vegas overadjusting a line for their benefit as the public heaped on GS. And those points proved immensely important...every single .5 of every one.

And that line held up. And not only did it hold up, GS did not lead by 4 the entire 48 minutes and all of OT. If that's not pocket aces holding up after the kitchen sink is thrown at ya, I don't know is!

It was pot limit by the way....

@Dr - appreciate it!

naesiy

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Posted: Feb. 28, 2016 - 7:33 PM ET #54

Quote Originally Posted by scalabrine:

@naesly - except it wasn't JUST backing OKC at home. It was backing OKC at home +3.5, a line that is virtually nonexistent whenever Durant and Westbrook are healthy and a line that hasn't existed all season. It was Vegas overadjusting a line for their benefit as the public heaped on GS. And those points proved immensely important...every single .5 of every one.

And that line held up. And not only did it hold up, GS did not lead by 4 the entire 48 minutes and all of OT. If that's not pocket aces holding up after the kitchen sink is thrown at ya, I don't know is!

It was pot limit by the way....

@Dr - appreciate it!

No doubt, not saying it was a bad bet...how could I, it won! Congrats bud!

I just don't think backing ANY team against the GSWs facing a short line, home or away, would equate to AA. GSW is the ONLY team in my opinion that equates to AA preflop at this point in the season. (This analogy is making me laugh just cause we are comparing poker and NBA lol).

On a really side note, I just watched Mississippi Grind....meh, not as good as I thought it would be considering the reviews here and others have given it....it was a good embodiment of the typical above average poker play who has a bad sports betting habit (me lol). I thought the ending was a cop out. This film definately doesn't beat Rounders....

/end tangent...

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scalabrine

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Posted: Feb. 28, 2016 - 9:31 PM ET #55

I didn't watch Miss Grind but I did watch Lucky You and if you like poker, that was more a tribute to the game than Rounders was...but Rounders is the greatest gambling movie of all time and will never be topped. Let's just be clear on that!!!

And I have to compare the NBA and poker! Those are my two gambling specialities!

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