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#26
Great start from OKC but u can't feel very confident right now lol. OKC played flawless to open the game and only up 6.
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Would you fold pocket aces preflop against a table of pros? If not, then you should make this pick.
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#27
Congrats, Scal! You had to be sweating it, especially when KD fouled out. Unbelievable game. The Warriors are truly great. They had no business winning that game for the first 3.5 quarters. But in the 4th they missed about 4 layups, then 2 in OT, Scott Foster also helped keep the Thunder ahead with a couple of bogus calls (as expected) and you got that cover, by hook and by crook. Nice win!
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#30
Quote Originally Posted by begginerboy:
Congrats, Scal! You had to be sweating it, especially when KD fouled out. Unbelievable game. The Warriors are truly great. They had no business winning that game for the first 3.5 quarters. But in the 4th they missed about 4 layups, then 2 in OT, Scott Foster also helped keep the Thunder ahead with a couple of bogus calls (as expected) and you got that cover, by hook and by crook. Nice win!
Congrats, Scal! You had to be sweating it, especially when KD fouled out. Unbelievable game. The Warriors are truly great. They had no business winning that game for the first 3.5 quarters. But in the 4th they missed about 4 layups, then 2 in OT, Scott Foster also helped keep the Thunder ahead with a couple of bogus calls (as expected) and you got that cover, by hook and by crook. Nice win!
BB,
Vegas giveth 3.5, Vegas taketh away your money if you laid the 3.5 or left it on the table.
Of course I thought I was dead with the Iggy foul (wtf is Durant doing that close to him in a 2 OT game??) but the game essentially never went outside the spread. It's a huge number for a team that scores 110 a game. I was more than happy to take it all.
Cash it like the Spurs +2.5 game 7 over the Clips last year. Just like blackjack insurance 
Vegas really bombed the bettor with this one because all GS bettors laid the points and lost and a significant number of Thunder backers played the ML and lost. Those person take it from both sides.
And really, who the hell is going to beat the Warriors in a 7 game series??? And you said you quit gambling but that was after you could have laid a Warriors future to win the championship. Do you have a futures bet riding on GS?
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#32
Quote Originally Posted by begginerboy:
Congrats, Scal! You had to be sweating it, especially when KD fouled out. Unbelievable game. The Warriors are truly great. They had no business winning that game for the first 3.5 quarters. But in the 4th they missed about 4 layups, then 2 in OT, Scott Foster also helped keep the Thunder ahead with a couple of bogus calls (as expected) and you got that cover, by hook and by crook. Nice win!
Thought about what you wrote for a bit and something bothered me. Why would someone with no bet on the game,you said you quit gambling, make what are imo snively remarks about the hook and a refs "bad calls". And then it came to me in an epiphany, you laid the 3.5 with the dubs. Tough beat buddy.
Congrats, Scal! You had to be sweating it, especially when KD fouled out. Unbelievable game. The Warriors are truly great. They had no business winning that game for the first 3.5 quarters. But in the 4th they missed about 4 layups, then 2 in OT, Scott Foster also helped keep the Thunder ahead with a couple of bogus calls (as expected) and you got that cover, by hook and by crook. Nice win!
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#35
Quote Originally Posted by Want2ride:
Thought about what you wrote for a bit and something bothered me. Why would someone with no bet on the game,you said you quit gambling, make what are imo snively remarks about the hook and a refs "bad calls". And then it came to me in an epiphany, you laid the 3.5 with the dubs. Tough beat buddy.
Thought about what you wrote for a bit and something bothered me. Why would someone with no bet on the game,you said you quit gambling, make what are imo snively remarks about the hook and a refs "bad calls". And then it came to me in an epiphany, you laid the 3.5 with the dubs. Tough beat buddy.
No, that was just the gambler in me. I now watch games imagining I have money on them, and what I'd be thinking if I did. It helps remind me of why I stopped. Like Curry rolling an ankle or Foster making a questionable call. Those were the moments that sucked the life out of me, so I like to remind myself. Scal was right on, but so was I (Thunder lack discipline, Curry took the Oscar O talks personally, etc). And the Dubs won by 3.
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#37
Quote Originally Posted by begginerboy:
Sure. Whatever you say.
No, that was just the gambler in me. I now watch games imagining I have money on them, and what I'd be thinking if I did. It helps remind me of why I stopped. Like Curry rolling an ankle or Foster making a questionable call. Those were the moments that sucked the life out of me, so I like to remind myself. Scal was right on, but so was I (Thunder lack discipline, Curry took the Oscar O talks personally, etc). And the Dubs won by 3.
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Posted:
#39
Quote Originally Posted by Tomdy:
Pocket Aces got Rivered...
Pocket Aces got Rivered...
This game was edge of the seat stuff !
Pocket Rockets did not get rivered!
These pocket rockets included 3:5 points.
That was the entire point of the thread. Vegas gave us two free points 3.5 after normal adjustment from 7.5 (the line the privous game) to 1.5 (6 points is the normal adjustment) even though 1) long road trip, 2) 3 in 4, 3) revenge and identity finding game for Thunder (they found their identity alright...they have no chance of beating GSW in 7 games).
And they gave us those 2 free points because they needed them against the public and anyone who joined them won. This was classic capping 101 stuff after all the wild and craziness of game. Pretty sick to cover by .5 point but whatever Curry shoots now goes in. It's like the guy is in a season long zone.
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#44
Horrible poker analogy. It wasn't a true poker game for the guy who folded aces. It was a contest to see which amateur could win the most money after playing X amount of hands with the pros. He was up 140k and leading the contest. He didn't want to get his aces cracked with only a few hands remaining in his session. The reason they could easily get cracked is because pre flop was limit and post flop was no limit. Of course if he played Phil Laak would have stayed in the hand and flopped Quads.
He folded aces for the greater cause. See Greg Popovich.
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#46
Quote Originally Posted by scalabrine:
I rewatched the game BB.
I rewatched the game BB.
I came to the conclusion I would not take Miller over Curry.
When I watched the game live I was more focused on Curry missing every shot and watered down his performance mentally. When I went back and watched it without a bet mattering...O my....
Yeah, Scal. Very different watching the game with money on it. All objectivity goes out the window:) I recall Steve Kerr talking about the Bulls team that won 72. He said there were nights that Jordan would simply not let the team lose, whereas most teams would have folded and taken a loss. Curry is now doing that for the Dubs. Kerr has built a mental monster. He gets a lot of the credit (imo), for how the Dubs approach these games. Of course, they always had the DNA, but someone had to switch it on.
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Posted:
#47
Quote Originally Posted by Peewee2820:
Horrible poker analogy. It wasn't a true poker game for the guy who folded aces. It was a contest to see which amateur could win the most money after playing X amount of hands with the pros. He was up 140k and leading the contest. He didn't want to get his aces cracked with only a few hands remaining in his session. The reason they could easily get cracked is because pre flop was limit and post flop was no limit. Of course if he played Phil Laak would have stayed in the hand and flopped Quads.
Horrible poker analogy. It wasn't a true poker game for the guy who folded aces. It was a contest to see which amateur could win the most money after playing X amount of hands with the pros. He was up 140k and leading the contest. He didn't want to get his aces cracked with only a few hands remaining in his session. The reason they could easily get cracked is because pre flop was limit and post flop was no limit. Of course if he played Phil Laak would have stayed in the hand and flopped Quads.
He folded aces for the greater cause. See Greg Popovich.
Well ya just knew one anal poker player who bets the NBA would find his way in here to contest, not the pick, but the poker analogy.
First off PeeWee, i said in the OP there were "complex intricacies" as to why he folded. What you wrote is exactly that. I watched thousands of hours of poker. I know the backstory.
Except you forgot to mention fear. Fear was the first and motivating factor in folding.
He actually could have won the pot by playing the aces and not seeing a single flop card: bet pot and turn the aces face up and challenge anyone with a pocket pair with less than a 20% chance of winning to come after him. Would Laak come after him against face up aces? I highly doubt it.
Now as an analogy to focus on fear and the fear betting against the Warriors instills, it's fine.
Why? Because we make such analogies all the time with incomplete conclusions to the entire story we are telling.
Do you think Lincoln freed the slaves because he solely wanted national racial justice and equality? As a politician? In that time period? With a civil war on the brink?
No he did not. And we know this because his debate speeches point to precisely the opposite.
But for the purpose of an analogy, the ultimate end was that he did free the slaves and we as idealistic Americans want to portray his actions as just and righteous rather than political, and for a simple analogy, that is fine.
Just as portraying the fold of pocket aces here as an analogy is fine to emphasize the power of fear and promote a bet on the Thunder (+ the free points Vegas gifted us to protect thier behinds!!) here...
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Posted:
#48
Quote Originally Posted by begginerboy:
Yeah, Scal. Very different watching the game with money on it. All objectivity goes out the window:) I recall Steve Kerr talking about the Bulls team that won 72. He said there were nights that Jordan would simply not let the team lose, whereas most teams would have folded and taken a loss. Curry is now doing that for the Dubs. Kerr has built a mental monster. He gets a lot of the credit (imo), for how the Dubs approach these games. Of course, they always had the DNA, but someone had to switch it on.
I agree 100%.
The main thing I remember about the Bulls outside of Jordan was that they had a refuse to lose psyche as well as other teams failing to close them out in the biggest of spots. Just ask Barkley, Malone, Drexler (the lakers and Sonics series were not really competitive).
The Warriors, if there was ever a doubt, have that psyche now.
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#50
Quote Originally Posted by talesfromdcrypt:
Man, Gstate would have covered if Curry did not make that final shot.....i had them at 3 so i pushed......another OT on that game would be nice...
Man, Gstate would have covered if Curry did not make that final shot.....i had them at 3 so i pushed......another OT on that game would be nice...
No offense man but if you need the team you are backing to miss a shot so you can get another OT to get over a number, you need to reevaluate your capping. It is insanity to cap that way. Never bank on OT for anything on a cap. You cap 48 minutes and that's all.
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