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[/Quote]and yet Korver has the best +/- in the playoffs, ranks up there in  locks/steals, rebounds well and when he's not on the court the opponent ALWAYS go on a run..He's the least of ATL's problem..

Yes vs the nets and wizards. The wiz were at the bottom of the league in 3pt shots per game. Beal and wall were smaller quick guys who work off the dribble and looked to penetrate.

The cavs 3rd in the league over the season and I believe 1st in the playoffs of 3pt attempts per game. Cavs ISO and dish to their guards who stand at the arc. JR/Shumpert and even Kyrie are too tall for korver to have him contest those shots.

I agree w/ your assesment and +- #'s on Korver, but this is a different series against a different offense
 
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lol this post just made me more confident Hawks cover game 2...
cover what? it's a 1 point spread. 
 
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Quote Originally Posted by ih8nits:

cover what? it's a 1 point spread. 

Pick em from what I see... I think it will be Cavs -2 by game time.. Win/cover... Regardless of line, nobody will be chasing Hawks

 
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You are clearly taking the B side. Manny is the B side, Floyd the A side. What you trying to say, Hawks will win this series? 

Ok.... So you are saying I'm on the underdog side... As of now it is a pickem in game 2 so I don't think your analogy works...

I never said anything about the series... As of now I think it will be Cavs vs Rockets in the finals and all that money you won on Cavs series and to win the east will be given right back to Vegas when you load up on Cavs to win the title... 

 
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If Korver was guarding Smith on all of those 3 balls, which I highly doubt, then this guy Bud should not be COY.

Sounds like T Dum getting a little nervous about the shredder bullshit.........

 
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Quote Originally Posted by scalabrine:


IMO? It's not just in your opinion! It is fact!


Korver has been ATROCIOUS on D and worse, O. He has really been the source of the Hawks struggles to score (in addition to Thabdo being out on D)

9,2,3 PTs in the past three games.

This son of a a bit** disappeared like David fu**in Blaine under a bedsheet on a Times Square street.

He needs to wake the f*** up.



Great line.

Good discussion, guys. The thread was meant to provoke. I think the Hawks have a good shot at taking game 2, but they are in a world of trouble. They certainly are not winning the series. Game 2 might be the only time to bet on them as it will be an all out effort. But this team has no tough guys, no irrational confidence guys, no go-to guys, and just looks robotic at times. They're kind of like their coach: bland. 
 
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Quote Originally Posted by Liturgy_of_Fade:

I thought the Hawks looked pretty good in the first half with ball movement.  In the third quarter I think there were three ticky-tack whistles against Atlanta for illegal screens, and they really seemed to mess with Atlanta's psyche.  After that their offense stagnated. Teague missed so many little runners.

Hats off to the Cavaliers.  They have all the SWAG, from JR to Bron to Tristan.  Game 1 was weird because JR pretty much street balled the Cavs to victory. If he makes 1 or 2 fewer of those ridiculous shots, though, maybe the Hawks have a chance to tie it up late.  

I was way wrong thinking the Hawks would be playing loose and free though.  A few illegal screen whistles in the third and they got tight.


It's amazing what a couple of bogus calls can do to a team/player. Those calls completely took Milsap out of the game.
 
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Kyle Korver was an all-star this year. Bigger joke than Pau getting the nod over Blake for all-nba second team
 
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Quote Originally Posted by begginerboy:


Great line.

Good discussion, guys. The thread was meant to provoke. I think the Hawks have a good shot at taking game 2, but they are in a world of trouble. They certainly are not winning the series. Game 2 might be the only time to bet on them as it will be an all out effort. But this team has no tough guys, no irrational confidence guys, no go-to guys, and just looks robotic at times. They're kind of like their coach: bland. 

That's what I was seeing too.  I was thinking about how the Cavs have all this swagger, from JR burying countless ridiculous daggers, LeBron smiling and trolling Millsap and Tristan Thompson schooling the Hawks on the boards. 

It just doesn't look like Atlanta has the makeup to succeed in the playoffs. You gotta have some swag! Maybe Thabo was their swag guy.  Bazemore did show a little edge, but they are going to need a lot more of that if they are going to compete.

Very scared about my Hawks series wager...
 
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Hey BB. To add to your comment about atl's toughness....the hawks had the easiest SOS this year ranked 30th. Toughness is condusive of that stat.
 
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Interesting, undermysac. I think the best approach is wait to see the refs for the next game. If I see a couple of guys with a 40-20 SU record for the home team, the the Hawks are the play. But if we get J Crawford (we all know his record with LBJ), which we might cause he has not officiated in the conference finals yet, it might be a no play.
 
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Quote Originally Posted by 3BallBomber:

Hawks may win gm2 just so it doesn't look blatant that the league is pushing for Lebron to advance.

Either way this over reaction to one game is exactly what vegas wants out of the public.


exactly!!!  people are overreacting huge just like theyve done all playoffs.

 One day everyone was saying CLips are going to win the west, do people remember that or does everyone have a short term memory.
 
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With all due respect Money (and congrats on your Rockets win) please don't come in here with that. It is the most painful loss I've ever had. The Clippers did win the series, they just didn't win it, if you know what I mean. 
 
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Quote Originally Posted by begginerboy:

This series will end very quickly (unless the league wants to draw it out). The Cavs are too big, too fast, and too strong (and with Irving playing on one leg:). The Hawks are just small and quick. It's like watching a heavyweight fight a lightweight. How did the Cavs ever lose to these guys during the regular season. Maybe the Love made this team soft?! Thompson is a beast. Between him, LBJ and Mozgov the puny Hawks have no chance (maybe one game, max). 

They're even worse than I thought, which is saying something. 
 
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John Wall doesnt get injured and the Wizards would be here, the Cavs would still advance but at least it would have been a series...Atlanta has disgraced the NBA, I have to think really far back to remember a team this bad make it this far. 
 
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To lose this way to LBJ and a bunch of castoffs is rally sad. What's funny to me is that the league went out of its way to insure this matchup too place when it was obvious to everyone that the wizards had the star-power to make this a series with the Cavs. There was so much contact in games 5 and 6 (but very few calls). A free throw here and there would have been enough to get the Wiz through (and there was enough contact to justify it). My theory is that the Wiz would have had a real chance against the Cavs. Without Irving (or with a gimpy one) they would have dominated the backcourt. They also had the bigs to matchup with the Cavs. Not to mention, Pierce's history against LBJ and his big-shot ability would have made things very interesting in tight games. But to have the wiz in the finals (lol, they'd get destroyed) would be too much of a risk for a league trying to promote its mealticket: LBJ.
 
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When MJ walked the whole series to win the NBA championships, I'm sure alot of fans and people bitched and complained this same way too...he just following in the air jordans footsteps...Cavs will win the championship, you people are too friggin dumb to realize that.
 
 
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Quote Originally Posted by begginerboy:

To lose this way to LBJ and a bunch of castoffs is rally sad. What's funny to me is that the league went out of its way to insure this matchup too place when it was obvious to everyone that the wizards had the star-power to make this a series with the Cavs. There was so much contact in games 5 and 6 (but very few calls). A free throw here and there would have been enough to get the Wiz through (and there was enough contact to justify it). My theory is that the Wiz would have had a real chance against the Cavs. Without Irving (or with a gimpy one) they would have dominated the backcourt. They also had the bigs to matchup with the Cavs. Not to mention, Pierce's history against LBJ and his big-shot ability would have made things very interesting in tight games. But to have the wiz in the finals (lol, they'd get destroyed) would be too much of a risk for a league trying to promote its mealticket: LBJ.


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