Last year I was confident from day 1 about pats, but this year I'm really shaky now... On paper Denver should get steam rolled, but the whole Peyton retiring angle seems like it would be huge... I just don't know
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Last year I was confident from day 1 about pats, but this year I'm really shaky now... On paper Denver should get steam rolled, but the whole Peyton retiring angle seems like it would be huge... I just don't know
Last year I was confident from day 1 about pats, but this year I'm really shaky now... On paper Denver should get steam rolled, but the whole Peyton retiring angle seems like it would be huge... I just don't know
Then don't bet it!
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Quote Originally Posted by bpickin:
Last year I was confident from day 1 about pats, but this year I'm really shaky now... On paper Denver should get steam rolled, but the whole Peyton retiring angle seems like it would be huge... I just don't know
Will they really let Peyton retire with his tail between his legs? The inly thing I can think is that they stick it to him becaUse of HGH story. I mean the story lines have definitely held true over the years...
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Will they really let Peyton retire with his tail between his legs? The inly thing I can think is that they stick it to him becaUse of HGH story. I mean the story lines have definitely held true over the years...
Who do you like Joe? Something tells me you both like Carolina
I will post my play next week. Will be in Vegas for Superbowl (12th yr in row). Line hardly changes now till then. Movement has been made. Looking more in depth. But if u don't have a good feel then ther is no reason to bet it.
GL
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Quote Originally Posted by bpickin:
Who do you like Joe? Something tells me you both like Carolina
I will post my play next week. Will be in Vegas for Superbowl (12th yr in row). Line hardly changes now till then. Movement has been made. Looking more in depth. But if u don't have a good feel then ther is no reason to bet it.
True good point. So I'll just say the HGH thing is void. Innocent until proven guilty and it's not being exposed anyway. He deserves what he deserves for his service to the NFL and fans... Damn this is tough.
Do you think the line will move?
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True good point. So I'll just say the HGH thing is void. Innocent until proven guilty and it's not being exposed anyway. He deserves what he deserves for his service to the NFL and fans... Damn this is tough.
Right off the bat I leaned Denver guessing the # was probably inflated. The AZ/Carolina game was the later of the 2 games, so the public has that a s s whoopin fresher in their minds.
Sagarin has the Panthers -2.08 so Denver +4.5 has value in that regard.
4.5 is a dead # and that bothers me. If it goes up to 6.5 does it matter a whole lot?
Then I did my cap yesterday(minus injuries) and came up with Carolina -7.12 and not sure what to think. Panthers impress me by the #'s even though all the while I am trying hard not to ride them 3 straight weeks in a row.
What I have found in the process is a high interest to the under
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I keep hating this spread more and more.
Right off the bat I leaned Denver guessing the # was probably inflated. The AZ/Carolina game was the later of the 2 games, so the public has that a s s whoopin fresher in their minds.
Sagarin has the Panthers -2.08 so Denver +4.5 has value in that regard.
4.5 is a dead # and that bothers me. If it goes up to 6.5 does it matter a whole lot?
Then I did my cap yesterday(minus injuries) and came up with Carolina -7.12 and not sure what to think. Panthers impress me by the #'s even though all the while I am trying hard not to ride them 3 straight weeks in a row.
What I have found in the process is a high interest to the under
Thanks man. Yeah I'm torn. And I keep going to buy out but I haven't hit submit yet. I have done it like 10 times all ready driving myself crazy. I think I'm gonna wait it out a little longer. I really loved Denver with the whole Peyton angle. I have seen this happen time and time again, but on paper they should get beat easily I think. My guy says Denver. I got them at 4 and 4.5. Something is really telling me this will be a field goal game either way. Carolina will not have their way against this defense the way they have with other teams. Or will they? That just doesn't make sense.
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Thanks man. Yeah I'm torn. And I keep going to buy out but I haven't hit submit yet. I have done it like 10 times all ready driving myself crazy. I think I'm gonna wait it out a little longer. I really loved Denver with the whole Peyton angle. I have seen this happen time and time again, but on paper they should get beat easily I think. My guy says Denver. I got them at 4 and 4.5. Something is really telling me this will be a field goal game either way. Carolina will not have their way against this defense the way they have with other teams. Or will they? That just doesn't make sense.
normally I would agree with the playoff game to playoff game, but there is a true stat in the case of conference game to SUPERBOWL even with the extra week...
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normally I would agree with the playoff game to playoff game, but there is a true stat in the case of conference game to SUPERBOWL even with the extra week...
Right off the bat I leaned Denver guessing the # was probably inflated. The AZ/Carolina game was the later of the 2 games, so the public has that a s s whoopin fresher in their minds.
Sagarin has the Panthers -2.08 so Denver +4.5 has value in that regard.
4.5 is a dead # and that bothers me. If it goes up to 6.5 does it matter a whole lot?
Then I did my cap yesterday(minus injuries) and came up with Carolina -7.12 and not sure what to think. Panthers impress me by the #'s even though all the while I am trying hard not to ride them 3 straight weeks in a row.
What I have found in the process is a high interest to the under
Prior to the Conference Championship, Westgate Las Vegas SuperBook has set Carolina -3/Denver +3 in SB 50, so currently it's a bit inflated at Carolina +4.5/+5. It's saying the line could reach Carolina +6, stay tuned. GL!
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Quote Originally Posted by undermysac:
I keep hating this spread more and more.
Right off the bat I leaned Denver guessing the # was probably inflated. The AZ/Carolina game was the later of the 2 games, so the public has that a s s whoopin fresher in their minds.
Sagarin has the Panthers -2.08 so Denver +4.5 has value in that regard.
4.5 is a dead # and that bothers me. If it goes up to 6.5 does it matter a whole lot?
Then I did my cap yesterday(minus injuries) and came up with Carolina -7.12 and not sure what to think. Panthers impress me by the #'s even though all the while I am trying hard not to ride them 3 straight weeks in a row.
What I have found in the process is a high interest to the under
Prior to the Conference Championship, Westgate Las Vegas SuperBook has set Carolina -3/Denver +3 in SB 50, so currently it's a bit inflated at Carolina +4.5/+5. It's saying the line could reach Carolina +6, stay tuned. GL!
I am thinking about buying out... The guy that posted the turnover results got me nervous.
Carolina is +20
Denver is -4.
IM BUYING OUT!
See you guys next year.
We had a great playoff run again and now 5-0 posted or 6-0 if you had Pitt+7.5. I OWN THE PLAYOFFS!!! Later guys
In all honesty, I've been thinking today about my Denver bet (haven't made it yet but still lean that way). I'm definately not as confident but in terms of this TO stat, I personally think it's a little skewed.
Maybe I'm letting the story fit my desired conclusion but I think during Peyton's first stint as starter this season, his mentality was much much different. I believe he felt he NEEDED to make plays on offense. The first half of the season, I really don't think he was 100% sold on the strength of his defense or realized his defense would be tops in the league. I mean, why would he? He's spent 90% of his career with NO DEFENSE to rely on. The year prior the defense was good but not great. Hence, he would press the issue and force bad throws.
Then after being injured and sitting on the sidelines and watching things unfold with Osweiler in there and seeing first hand that this team DIDN'T need to make huge plays on offense to win and could rely on their defense as long as the QB didn't put them in bad positions, something Osweiller proved by going 5-2 without putting up superstar numbers, I believe he returned to the lineup with a much different outlook on what he needed to do. I haven't watched every pass he's thrown but what I've seen is, he isn't taking chances. He's making throws that are either going to be a way off ugly incompletion or a catch only his receivers can make.
Being the ultimate team player that he is and seeing things playout first hand, it'd be easy for him to fully embrace the game manager role to allow him to get through this home stretch and have the best chance at his ultimate go...winning #2 and going out on top.
(That's my story and I'm sticking too it lol).
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Quote Originally Posted by bpickin:
I am thinking about buying out... The guy that posted the turnover results got me nervous.
Carolina is +20
Denver is -4.
IM BUYING OUT!
See you guys next year.
We had a great playoff run again and now 5-0 posted or 6-0 if you had Pitt+7.5. I OWN THE PLAYOFFS!!! Later guys
In all honesty, I've been thinking today about my Denver bet (haven't made it yet but still lean that way). I'm definately not as confident but in terms of this TO stat, I personally think it's a little skewed.
Maybe I'm letting the story fit my desired conclusion but I think during Peyton's first stint as starter this season, his mentality was much much different. I believe he felt he NEEDED to make plays on offense. The first half of the season, I really don't think he was 100% sold on the strength of his defense or realized his defense would be tops in the league. I mean, why would he? He's spent 90% of his career with NO DEFENSE to rely on. The year prior the defense was good but not great. Hence, he would press the issue and force bad throws.
Then after being injured and sitting on the sidelines and watching things unfold with Osweiler in there and seeing first hand that this team DIDN'T need to make huge plays on offense to win and could rely on their defense as long as the QB didn't put them in bad positions, something Osweiller proved by going 5-2 without putting up superstar numbers, I believe he returned to the lineup with a much different outlook on what he needed to do. I haven't watched every pass he's thrown but what I've seen is, he isn't taking chances. He's making throws that are either going to be a way off ugly incompletion or a catch only his receivers can make.
Being the ultimate team player that he is and seeing things playout first hand, it'd be easy for him to fully embrace the game manager role to allow him to get through this home stretch and have the best chance at his ultimate go...winning #2 and going out on top.
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Thanks man. Yeah I'm torn. And I keep going to buy out but I haven't hit submit yet. I have done it like 10 times all ready driving myself crazy. I think I'm gonna wait it out a little longer. I really loved Denver with the whole Peyton angle. I have seen this happen time and time again, but on paper they should get beat easily I think. My guy says Denver. I got them at 4 and 4.5. Something is really telling me this will be a field goal game either way. Carolina will not have their way against this defense the way they have with other teams. Or will they? That just doesn't make sense.
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