BILLS +5 POY TNF

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Joe Philbin Career vs Bills as HC = 1-4 (1 win coming in 2012)Bills have owned dolphins in AFC divisional matchups winners of last 3 none more important than last year when they beat Dolphins in Miami when all the Dolphins needed was a win.Ryan Tannehill Career vs. Bills = 1-42014 @ BUF = 31-49 241 yards 1 TD, 1 INT (4 sacks)2013 @ BUF = 10-27 82 yards 0 TD 0 IN (7 sacks)2013 vs. BUF = 19-37 194 yards 3 TD 2 INT 1 Fumble Lost (2 sacks)2012 @ BUF = 14-28 141 yards 1 TD 1 INT (3 sacks)2012 vs. BUF = 13-25 130 yards 2 TD 0 INT 1 Fumble (2 sacks)                   (ONLY WIN) TOTAL vs BUF (5 gms) = 87-166 (52%), 788 yards 7 TD - 5 TO &amp; 18 sacksBuffalo Front Four vs. Miami Offensive Line Bills don&#x27;t even need to blitz they have a dominant front four Mario Williams, Kyle Williams, Dareus, Manny Lawson vs a weak Miami Offensive Line officially without a left tackle in Brandon Albert so a rookie Ju&#x27;Wan James is moving over to the blindside from RT to go up against Mario Williams. Miami will not be able to run ball especially because Lamar Miller couldn&#x27;t run against Lions last week &amp; he has a separated shoulder, daniel thomas came in &amp; fumbled vs lions &amp; Bills have been able to shut down a weak Miami run game in previous games daring tannehill to beat him.Tannehill, Philbin &amp; Offensive Coordinator Bill Lazor have lost two games at last possession only because they gave ball to Stafford &amp; Rodgers because they could not get a first down to kill clock or win the game. This should be a playoff type game atmosphere in Sunlife lmao joke they have no fans loser of this game has no chance at playoffs yet alone above .500 record lol Tannehill cannot throw a deep pass for life of him had wallace open vs lions for sure td overthrew him lol Dolphins Defense vs Bills OffenseOrton did a good job vs Chiefs Defense who had best pass rusher in Justin Houston &amp; Tamba Hali &amp; ran the ball pretty efficiently if it wasn&#x27;t for fumble outta endzone or on punt return they woulda beat the Chiefs.However, vs. Dolphins defense which has improved since beginning of year will be a tough test for Bills offense however they have shown they can run against dolphins front four they have a different stable of backs but this time they have MR KYLE ORTON someone who can throw a pass unlike EJ Manuel. Also, courtland finnegan dolphins 2nd cb might be out. So with all that I will take Bills &#x2B;5 &amp; small play on ML, dolphins are terrible when they are expectations placed on them especially as -5 home favorites,  LET&#x27;S GO BUFFALO!!

BrooklynAllDay1 · Answer

Joe Philbin Career vs Bills as HC = 1-4 (1 win coming in 2012)Bills have owned dolphins in AFC divisional matchups winners of last 3 none more important than last year when they beat Dolphins in Miami when all the Dolphins needed was a win.Ryan Tannehill Career vs. Bills = 1-42014 @ BUF = 31-49 241 yards 1 TD, 1 INT (4 sacks)2013 @ BUF = 10-27 82 yards 0 TD 0 IN (7 sacks)2013 vs. BUF = 19-37 194 yards 3 TD 2 INT 1 Fumble Lost (2 sacks)2012 @ BUF = 14-28 141 yards 1 TD 1 INT (3 sacks)2012 vs. BUF = 13-25 130 yards 2 TD 0 INT 1 Fumble (2 sacks)                   (ONLY WIN) TOTAL vs BUF (5 gms) = 87-166 (52%), 788 yards 7 TD - 5 TO &amp; 18 sacksBuffalo Front Four vs. Miami Offensive Line Bills don&#x27;t even need to blitz they have a dominant front four Mario Williams, Kyle Williams, Dareus, Manny Lawson vs a weak Miami Offensive Line officially without a left tackle in Brandon Albert so a rookie Ju&#x27;Wan James is moving over to the blindside from RT to go up against Mario Williams. Miami will not be able to run ball especially because Lamar Miller couldn&#x27;t run against Lions last week &amp; he has a separated shoulder, daniel thomas came in &amp; fumbled vs lions &amp; Bills have been able to shut down a weak Miami run game in previous games daring tannehill to beat him.Tannehill, Philbin &amp; Offensive Coordinator Bill Lazor have lost two games at last possession only because they gave ball to Stafford &amp; Rodgers because they could not get a first down to kill clock or win the game. This should be a playoff type game atmosphere in Sunlife lmao joke they have no fans loser of this game has no chance at playoffs yet alone above .500 record lol Tannehill cannot throw a deep pass for life of him had wallace open vs lions for sure td overthrew him lol Dolphins Defense vs Bills OffenseOrton did a good job vs Chiefs Defense who had best pass rusher in Justin Houston &amp; Tamba Hali &amp; ran the ball pretty efficiently if it wasn&#x27;t for fumble outta endzone or on punt return they woulda beat the Chiefs.However, vs. Dolphins defense which has improved since beginning of year will be a tough test for Bills offense however they have shown they can run against dolphins front four they have a different stable of backs but this time they have MR KYLE ORTON someone who can throw a pass unlike EJ Manuel. Also, courtland finnegan dolphins 2nd cb might be out. So with all that I will take Bills &#x2B;5 &amp; small play on ML, dolphins are terrible when they are expectations placed on them especially as -5 home favorites,  LET&#x27;S GO BUFFALO!!

Fademaster · Answer

Today is Monday

BrooklynAllDay1 · Answer

lmao I know just putting it out there before this line drops

RTRorlando · Answer

Im on it, maybe someone will give Marrone a mirror to he can see his little pecker over that fat gut. maybe he will go for it this time on 4 and 1. Bills win outright.

BrooklynAllDay1 · Answer

BOL RTRorlando made a mistake tho miami lost to buffalo @ buffalo with a playoff spot on the line last year in final games of 2013 season

pdizzlesizzle · Answer

Excellent write up.  Offensive line injury and miller dinged up like the bills and pints gere

RTRorlando · Answer

bills, saints, Denver 3 tm parlay.... I like it

BrooklynAllDay1 · Answer

thanks fellas I really like bills ML but I&#x27;ll be glad to accept the points as well lol  BOL

earthWake · Answer

Can&#x27;t take u serious when u have incorrect fact in your first sentence. Last year week 16 was in Buffalo when Miami needed to win...You also say the bills shown they can run all over the Dolphins. Last meeting they had under 100 yards and 65 of them were from spiller.Laughing at you because most of your stuff is coming from last weeks games for both teams. Typical guy who has not seen either team play this year. Gl with your guess.

earthWake · Answer

Atleast you corrected yourself. Your only valid info is about dolphins Oline vs bills dline. Other than that it&#x27;s all opinion.

Bizzey · Answer

Lean to the Fish.  Buffalo should be firmly put back in their anemic place in a few days.

pinballwizard · Answer

Bills a POY?

earthWake · Answer

Yeah poy on an average team on the road vs a team that is 2 plays away from being 7-2, and won their last home game 37-0. GL w that

BrooklynAllDay1 · Answer

Miami matches up well with new england at home over the years as well thats no surprise & earthquake can't take you serious as you are obviously a dolphins fan

Opinion vs Fact

Miami O-Line w/o Brandon Albert there best offensive lineman vs Bills Front Four

Lamar Miller is hurt, Moreno already out who is dolphins running game, Tannehill needs a running game if its one dimensional he will lose

Finnegan is hurt probably won't play

Bills Thad Lewis, EJ Manuel have beat Dolphins lol

Dolphins are .500 team thats it

BrooklynAllDay1 · Answer

OMG &#x2B;6 vegas is giving us an early Christmas gift

scalabrine · Answer

&#xD;&#xA; &#xD;&#xA;After having said all that, it would be fair to mention you&#x27;ll be on the Bills given you said in your own thread that you wouldn&#x27;t lay this number.

Kung · Answer

Intresting

HoyasSax · Answer

at least get a good line man

CanadaCup · Answer

[Quote: Originally Posted by scalabrine] &#xD;&#xA;&#xD;&#xA; &#xD;&#xA;After having said all that, it would be fair to mention you&#x27;ll be on the Bills given you said in your own thread that you wouldn&#x27;t lay this number. &#xD;&#xA;[/Quote]&#xD;&#xA;I read that on earthWake&#x27;s thread too scal &#xD;&#xA;If Thad Lewis and EJ Manuel can beat the Dolphins so can Kyle Orton. &#xD;&#xA;Let&#x27;s go Bills!

earthWake · Answer

Wow I just wrote a really long response, but it got deleted so I'll give the cliff notes.

My bad for coming at you in the first place. It was mainly because I saw you said they lost week 16 in Miami last year. I assumed you had more inaccuracies but mainly it is just disagreeing and you focusing on the positives for the Bills and negatives for Miami. Which I sometimes do unintentionally myself.

My biggest complaints are Tannehills #'s prior to this year vs the Bills. They mean nothing. Last year he had the worst o-line in NFL (maybe history) so obviously his numbers will be bad vs a good front 7. Even without Albert Miam's Oline is 5x better than last year. Miller is also fine and you mention the Bills run game. The only back who had success was Spiller, and hes out. He also ran a kick back to the house so his absence is huge. But you don't mention that. I don't have much interest in a back and forth with you as we will see what happens tomorrow. GL.

@Scal: I will not be on Fins -5 in any fashion. I think there is value in bills ML but not points. Miami can easily blow this game out or not show up and lose. I think if its close the Bills win, but Miami should win by 10+. Noone on their offense worries me AT ALL except Watkin, and he is not 100% and has top 5 CB on him. Last time you put me on the spot was putting me on record of the Fins finishing 10-6. They were 5-3 and two plays from 7-2, so I think I'm holding up my end of the bargain.

earthWake · Answer

This hurts your argument. Why do you think one of the main reasons Miami does better vs the Pats than they do vs an EJ Manuel/ Thad Lewis type QB?Miami&#x27;s front 7 is the best part of their team and can dominate QB&#x27;s in  the pocket. They do better vs drop back QBs who aren&#x27;t mobile and can get out of the pocket. That and EJ can scramble and creat plays. Kyle Orton cannot. I&#x27;d much rather face Orton than Thad and possibly EJ.

hug0boss · Answer

Bet the under and be done with it, this will be a slug fest.

IllTakeAll100 · Answer

Big play bills $ line med play under bills win 24-10 I agree with guy who said $ line is play if bills lose it won&#x27;t be by 5 bills should put points up early and rely on there d the rest of the way the bills d line will disrupt Tanehill and cause turnovers bad throws etc.

richig761 · Answer

Whoever strikes first is in good shape.

scalabrine · Answer

[Quote: Originally Posted by earthWake] Wow I just wrote a really long response, but it got deleted so I&#x27;ll give the cliff notes.&#xD;&#xA;&#xD;&#xA;&#xD;&#xA;My bad for coming at you in the first place. It was mainly because I saw you said they lost week 16 in Miami last year. I assumed you had more inaccuracies but mainly it is just disagreeing and you focusing on the positives for the Bills and negatives for Miami. Which I sometimes do unintentionally myself.&#xD;&#xA;&#xD;&#xA;My biggest complaints are Tannehills #&#x27;s prior to this year vs the Bills. They mean nothing. Last year he had the worst o-line in NFL (maybe history) so obviously his numbers will be bad vs a good front 7. Even without Albert Miam&#x27;s Oline is 5x better than last year. Miller is also fine and you mention the Bills run game. The only back who had success was Spiller, and hes out. He also ran a kick back to the house so his absence is huge. But you don&#x27;t mention that. I don&#x27;t have much interest in a back and forth with you as we will see what happens tomorrow. GL.&#xD;&#xA;&#xD;&#xA;@Scal: I will not be on Fins -5 in any fashion. I think there is value in bills ML but not points. Miami can easily blow this game out or not show up and lose. I think if its close the Bills win, but Miami should win by 10&#x2B;. Noone on their offense worries me AT ALL except Watkin, and he is not 100% and has top 5 CB on him. Last time you put me on the spot was putting me on record of the Fins finishing 10-6. They were 5-3 and two plays from 7-2, so I think I&#x27;m holding up my end of the bargain. &#xD;&#xA;[/Quote]&#xD;&#xA;So far so good but that Detroit game was KILLER. Perfect pass. Not much you can do.&#xD;&#xA;@Raptors - Yeah I read the thread when it comes to the to of the forum. I always value the opinion of team experts who aren&#x27;t homers.

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