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    tuttleberry
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    Posted: Nov. 21, 2010 - 7:12 AM ET #26

    Found 2 games earlier in the season where 1U teams were facing each other as opponents. So, that means we can take away 2 1U wins and 2 1U losses, as we would not have played those games at the time.

    That means, YTD we are:
    1U: 27-18
    2U: 15-4

    This week there are 4 1U teams that are facing each other in 2 games. So, 4 of our picks are knocked off the board (ten,was,kcc,ari). The remaining picks are:

    1U:
    min +3.5 (buy .5 pt if have to)
    pit -7.5
    nyg +3.5

    2U:
    car +10.5

    Good luck to all.
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    Found 2 games earlier in the season where 1U teams were facing each other as opponents. So, that means we can take away 2 1U wins and 2 1U losses, as we would not have played those games at the time.

    That means, YTD we are:
    1U: 27-18
    2U: 15-4

    This week there are 4 1U teams that are facing each other in 2 games. So, 4 of our picks are knocked off the board (ten,was,kcc,ari). The remaining picks are:

    1U:
    min +3.5 (buy .5 pt if have to)
    pit -7.5
    nyg +3.5

    2U:
    car +10.5

    Good luck to all.
     
    tuttleberry
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    Posted: Nov. 22, 2010 - 10:29 AM ET #27

    1U:
    min +3.5 L
    pit -7.5 W
    nyg +3.5 L

    2U:
    car +10.5 L

    Today: 1U: 1-2 2U: 0-1
    YTD: 1U: 28-20 2U: 15-5

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    1U:
    min +3.5 L
    pit -7.5 W
    nyg +3.5 L

    2U:
    car +10.5 L

    Today: 1U: 1-2 2U: 0-1
    YTD: 1U: 28-20 2U: 15-5

     
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    Posted: Nov. 24, 2010 - 1:59 AM ET #28

    YTD -- 1U: 28-20 -- 2U: 15-5

    Week 12 Board ... the one Thanksgiving play is cin:

    1U:
    cin +8.5
    car +10.5
    ari +0.5

    2U:
    nyg -7.5

    3U (1U & 2U):
    min +2.5
    ten +0.5 ?

    The ari game is actually a 1U (sff) vs. a 2U (ari), so ari gets bumped from a 2U to a 1U play just by mathematical cancellation, and of course, sff becomes a no-play.

    Good luck everyone and Happy Thanksgiving.
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    YTD -- 1U: 28-20 -- 2U: 15-5

    Week 12 Board ... the one Thanksgiving play is cin:

    1U:
    cin +8.5
    car +10.5
    ari +0.5

    2U:
    nyg -7.5

    3U (1U & 2U):
    min +2.5
    ten +0.5 ?

    The ari game is actually a 1U (sff) vs. a 2U (ari), so ari gets bumped from a 2U to a 1U play just by mathematical cancellation, and of course, sff becomes a no-play.

    Good luck everyone and Happy Thanksgiving.
     
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    Posted: Nov. 30, 2010 - 2:15 AM ET #29

    Okay let's tally the results:

    1U:
    cin +8.5 L
    car +10.5 W
    ari +0.5 --- W on 1U and L on 2U --- net of -1 U

    2U:
    nyg -7.5 L

    3U (1U & 2U):
    min +2.5 W on 2 bets
    ten +0.5 ? L on 2 bets

    So, weekly results are --- 1U: 3-2 --- 2U: 1-3

    YTD --- 1U: 31-22 --- 2U: 16-8

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    Okay let's tally the results:

    1U:
    cin +8.5 L
    car +10.5 W
    ari +0.5 --- W on 1U and L on 2U --- net of -1 U

    2U:
    nyg -7.5 L

    3U (1U & 2U):
    min +2.5 W on 2 bets
    ten +0.5 ? L on 2 bets

    So, weekly results are --- 1U: 3-2 --- 2U: 1-3

    YTD --- 1U: 31-22 --- 2U: 16-8

     
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    Posted: Dec. 5, 2010 - 1:18 AM ET #30

    Sunday's Plays:

    1U:
    det +4.5
    sea -5.5
    ind -5.5
    ari +3.5

    2U:
    cin +6.5
    den +9.5

    3U (1U & 2U - 2 bets combined):
    ten -3.5
    oak +12.5
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    Sunday's Plays:

    1U:
    det +4.5
    sea -5.5
    ind -5.5
    ari +3.5

    2U:
    cin +6.5
    den +9.5

    3U (1U & 2U - 2 bets combined):
    ten -3.5
    oak +12.5
     
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    Posted: Dec. 5, 2010 - 10:09 PM ET #31

    Results:

    1U:
    det +4.5 W
    sea -5.5 W
    ind -5.5 L
    ari +3.5 L

    2U:
    cin +6.5 W
    den +9.5 W

    3U (1U & 2U - 2 bets combined):
    ten -3.5 L
    oak +12.5 W

    Week:
    1U: 3-3
    2U: 3-1

    YTD:
    1U:  34-25
    2U: 19-9
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    Results:

    1U:
    det +4.5 W
    sea -5.5 W
    ind -5.5 L
    ari +3.5 L

    2U:
    cin +6.5 W
    den +9.5 W

    3U (1U & 2U - 2 bets combined):
    ten -3.5 L
    oak +12.5 W

    Week:
    1U: 3-3
    2U: 3-1

    YTD:
    1U:  34-25
    2U: 19-9
     
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    Posted: Dec. 9, 2010 - 2:41 AM ET #32

    Forgot to execute a clause in the system last week.

    ten -3.5, which was a loss, should have only been a 2U bet, not a 3U bet. So, instead of going 3-3 on 1U bets, we should have gone 3-2.

    So our revised YTD record is:
    1U: 34-24 (1 loss taken away)
    2U: 19-9

    Thursday night play is a 2U bet:
    ind -3.5

    Good luck everyone.
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    Forgot to execute a clause in the system last week.

    ten -3.5, which was a loss, should have only been a 2U bet, not a 3U bet. So, instead of going 3-3 on 1U bets, we should have gone 3-2.

    So our revised YTD record is:
    1U: 34-24 (1 loss taken away)
    2U: 19-9

    Thursday night play is a 2U bet:
    ind -3.5

    Good luck everyone.
     
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    Posted: Dec. 9, 2010 - 3:16 AM ET #33

    GL Fonzi!   
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    Posted: Dec. 10, 2010 - 3:19 PM ET #34

    Well, this is going to seem kind of silly, but I'm going to do a 180 and remove the clause from the system that made us lessen the exposure to the Week 13 Tennessee loss.

    We're going to go with the theory that the more a team loses ATS, the more attractive a play they become. So, we are going to absorb that original ten -3.5 loss, and then play them again vs. Indy, which means that our Indy -3.5 2U loss is wiped out, and we will also get a ten +3.5 win for 1U on top of that.

    Soooo .....  we will change our 1U record from 34-24 to 34-25.
    Then, we will convert our ind -3.5 2U play last night to a ten +3.5 1U play, which is a win. Don't ask why this happens. It just does.

    Now,  our YTD record will be:
    1U: 35-25
    2U: 19-9

    I'll follow up tomorrow with Sunday's plays.
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    Well, this is going to seem kind of silly, but I'm going to do a 180 and remove the clause from the system that made us lessen the exposure to the Week 13 Tennessee loss.

    We're going to go with the theory that the more a team loses ATS, the more attractive a play they become. So, we are going to absorb that original ten -3.5 loss, and then play them again vs. Indy, which means that our Indy -3.5 2U loss is wiped out, and we will also get a ten +3.5 win for 1U on top of that.

    Soooo .....  we will change our 1U record from 34-24 to 34-25.
    Then, we will convert our ind -3.5 2U play last night to a ten +3.5 1U play, which is a win. Don't ask why this happens. It just does.

    Now,  our YTD record will be:
    1U: 35-25
    2U: 19-9

    I'll follow up tomorrow with Sunday's plays.
     
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    Posted: Dec. 10, 2010 - 10:29 PM ET #35

    Sunday plays:

    1U:
    was +1.5
    buf pk
    car +7.5
    sdc -6.5
    nyj -5.5

    2U:
    ari +4.5
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    Sunday plays:

    1U:
    was +1.5
    buf pk
    car +7.5
    sdc -6.5
    nyj -5.5

    2U:
    ari +4.5
     
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    Posted: Dec. 11, 2010 - 12:16 AM ET #36

    Like Car and Az
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    Posted: Dec. 11, 2010 - 12:24 AM ET #37

     Good stuff
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    Posted: Dec. 13, 2010 - 12:05 AM ET #38

    Thx for the support, harley and k4.

    Let's tally the results

    1U:
    was +1.5 W
    buf pk W
    car +7.5 L
    sdc -6.5 W
    nyj -5.5 L

    2U:
    ari +4.5 W

    Week:
    1U: 3-2
    2U: 1-0

    YTD:
    1U: 38-27
    2U: 20-9
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    Thx for the support, harley and k4.

    Let's tally the results

    1U:
    was +1.5 W
    buf pk W
    car +7.5 L
    sdc -6.5 W
    nyj -5.5 L

    2U:
    ari +4.5 W

    Week:
    1U: 3-2
    2U: 1-0

    YTD:
    1U: 38-27
    2U: 20-9
     
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    Posted: Dec. 17, 2010 - 7:22 AM ET #39

    Found a 1U winning scenario in week 1 that I previously missed. We can add one win to the 1U record.

    The scenario was SD losing to KC in Week 1, then coming back in week 2 and blowing out Jax.

    So, YTD:
    1U: 39-27
    2U: 20-9
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    Found a 1U winning scenario in week 1 that I previously missed. We can add one win to the 1U record.

    The scenario was SD losing to KC in Week 1, then coming back in week 2 and blowing out Jax.

    So, YTD:
    1U: 39-27
    2U: 20-9
     
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    Posted: Dec. 17, 2010 - 7:26 AM ET #40

    Sunday's plays:

    1U:
    kcc pk
    den +6.5
    sea +6.5
    gbp +???

    2U:
    nyj +5.5

    3U:
    car -2.5

    Good luck to all.
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    Sunday's plays:

    1U:
    kcc pk
    den +6.5
    sea +6.5
    gbp +???

    2U:
    nyj +5.5

    3U:
    car -2.5

    Good luck to all.
     
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    Posted: Dec. 18, 2010 - 9:38 AM ET #41

    Quote Originally Posted by tuttleberry:

    Thx for the support, harley and k4.

    Let's tally the results

    1U:
    was +1.5 W
    buf pk W
    car +7.5 L
    sdc -6.5 W
    nyj -5.5 L

    2U:
    ari +4.5 W

    Week:
    1U: 3-2
    2U: 1-0

    YTD:
    1U: 38-27
    2U: 20-9

    Been reading your thread, curious how the Jets could have been a play against the Phins. The Phins lost the prior week to the Browns straight up - they were favored by 3.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tuttleberry:

    Thx for the support, harley and k4.

    Let's tally the results

    1U:
    was +1.5 W
    buf pk W
    car +7.5 L
    sdc -6.5 W
    nyj -5.5 L

    2U:
    ari +4.5 W

    Week:
    1U: 3-2
    2U: 1-0

    YTD:
    1U: 38-27
    2U: 20-9

    Been reading your thread, curious how the Jets could have been a play against the Phins. The Phins lost the prior week to the Browns straight up - they were favored by 3.

     
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    Posted: Dec. 18, 2010 - 9:51 AM ET #42

    Quote Originally Posted by tuttleberry:

    Sunday's plays:

    1U:
    kcc pk
    den +6.5
    sea +6.5
    gbp +???

    2U:
    nyj +5.5

    3U:
    car -2.5

    Good luck to all.

    A 3 U play this week? I like it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tuttleberry:

    Sunday's plays:

    1U:
    kcc pk
    den +6.5
    sea +6.5
    gbp +???

    2U:
    nyj +5.5

    3U:
    car -2.5

    Good luck to all.

    A 3 U play this week? I like it.

     
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    Posted: Dec. 18, 2010 - 12:17 PM ET #43

    rob3996: The setup for the system is a team must lose by more 10 or more vs. the spread. The Jets were a setup after losing 45-3, and the Phins were not a setup as they lost by less than 10 vs. the spread.

    Byharley: a 3U play happens if a team loses by 10 or more vs. the spread twice in a row.

    The 3U record YTD is a combo of the 1U and 2U record. I honestly don't know what it is, but I'm confident the win pct is at least 60% and probably higher than that.

    Thanks for the interest.
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    rob3996: The setup for the system is a team must lose by more 10 or more vs. the spread. The Jets were a setup after losing 45-3, and the Phins were not a setup as they lost by less than 10 vs. the spread.

    Byharley: a 3U play happens if a team loses by 10 or more vs. the spread twice in a row.

    The 3U record YTD is a combo of the 1U and 2U record. I honestly don't know what it is, but I'm confident the win pct is at least 60% and probably higher than that.

    Thanks for the interest.
     
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    Posted: Dec. 18, 2010 - 12:22 PM ET #44

    Sunday's plays:

    1U:
    kcc pk
    den +6.5
    sea +6.5
    gbp +13.5   updated

    2U:
    nyj +5.5

    3U:
    car -2.5
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    Sunday's plays:

    1U:
    kcc pk
    den +6.5
    sea +6.5
    gbp +13.5   updated

    2U:
    nyj +5.5

    3U:
    car -2.5
     
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    Posted: Dec. 18, 2010 - 12:27 PM ET #45

    Love Sea and Den, hard to bet on maybe the worst NFL game of the year between Car and Az BOL 
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    Love Sea and Den, hard to bet on maybe the worst NFL game of the year between Car and Az BOL 
     
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    Posted: Dec. 18, 2010 - 12:57 PM ET #46

    Quote Originally Posted by tuttleberry:

    rob3996: The setup for the system is a team must lose by more 10 or more vs. the spread. The Jets were a setup after losing 45-3, and the Phins were not a setup as they lost by less than 10 vs. the spread.

    Byharley: a 3U play happens if a team loses by 10 or more vs. the spread twice in a row.

    The 3U record YTD is a combo of the 1U and 2U record. I honestly don't know what it is, but I'm confident the win pct is at least 60% and probably higher than that.

    Thanks for the interest.

    Thanks much for the explanation - think your system is something that makes alot of sense. I was doing something similar awhile back - one other thing that I was taking into consideration is turnover margins for the previous game. If a team was a bouncback team PLUS their turnover margin was equal to or preferably worse than the team they were playing - it qualified as a play.

    Only thing im not 100% clear on is your 2U criteria? I saw you mention bye week, so its for teams coming off byes. What is the other piece im missing?

    Thanks Buddy

     

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by tuttleberry:

    rob3996: The setup for the system is a team must lose by more 10 or more vs. the spread. The Jets were a setup after losing 45-3, and the Phins were not a setup as they lost by less than 10 vs. the spread.

    Byharley: a 3U play happens if a team loses by 10 or more vs. the spread twice in a row.

    The 3U record YTD is a combo of the 1U and 2U record. I honestly don't know what it is, but I'm confident the win pct is at least 60% and probably higher than that.

    Thanks for the interest.

    Thanks much for the explanation - think your system is something that makes alot of sense. I was doing something similar awhile back - one other thing that I was taking into consideration is turnover margins for the previous game. If a team was a bouncback team PLUS their turnover margin was equal to or preferably worse than the team they were playing - it qualified as a play.

    Only thing im not 100% clear on is your 2U criteria? I saw you mention bye week, so its for teams coming off byes. What is the other piece im missing?

    Thanks Buddy

     

     

     
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    Posted: Dec. 18, 2010 - 1:00 PM ET #47

    Quote Originally Posted by tuttleberry:

    Sunday's plays:

    1U:
    kcc pk
    den +6.5
    sea +6.5
    gbp +13.5   updated

    2U:
    nyj +5.5

    3U:
    car -2.5

    Curious is anyone ever tried something similar to this for NCAAF - maybe just TOP 25 Teams.

     

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by tuttleberry:

    Sunday's plays:

    1U:
    kcc pk
    den +6.5
    sea +6.5
    gbp +13.5   updated

    2U:
    nyj +5.5

    3U:
    car -2.5

    Curious is anyone ever tried something similar to this for NCAAF - maybe just TOP 25 Teams.

     

     

     
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    Posted: Dec. 19, 2010 - 8:06 PM ET #48

    Rob, the 2U plays are just chases of 1U losses.

    I'll post later with the tallies. Hit the 2U and 3U (1U + 2U) plays. 2U record YTD is now 22-9. 
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    Rob, the 2U plays are just chases of 1U losses.

    I'll post later with the tallies. Hit the 2U and 3U (1U + 2U) plays. 2U record YTD is now 22-9. 
     
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    Posted: Dec. 20, 2010 - 2:19 AM ET #49

    Tallying the results:

    1U:
    kcc pk W
    den +6.5 L
    sea +6.5 L
    gbp +13.5 W

    2U:
    nyj +5.5 W

    3U:
    car -2.5 W (on a 1U and a 2U bet)

    Week:
    1U: 3-2
    2U: 2-0

    YTD:
    1U: 42-29
    2U: 22-9
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    Tallying the results:

    1U:
    kcc pk W
    den +6.5 L
    sea +6.5 L
    gbp +13.5 W

    2U:
    nyj +5.5 W

    3U:
    car -2.5 W (on a 1U and a 2U bet)

    Week:
    1U: 3-2
    2U: 2-0

    YTD:
    1U: 42-29
    2U: 22-9
     
     
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    Posted: Dec. 20, 2010 - 2:33 AM ET #50

    I like your system can you give me another example?? like

    if the (FOR EXAMPLE)

    the colts were favorite by -6 over the Cards and the final score was 
    Colts 30 Cards 20 is the Cards a 2 unit play for that next week.. or is it the spread PLUS 10??? like the final score being...
    Colts 30 Cards 14.. would like be a 2 unit bet for the following week... 

    explain..? 
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    I like your system can you give me another example?? like

    if the (FOR EXAMPLE)

    the colts were favorite by -6 over the Cards and the final score was 
    Colts 30 Cards 20 is the Cards a 2 unit play for that next week.. or is it the spread PLUS 10??? like the final score being...
    Colts 30 Cards 14.. would like be a 2 unit bet for the following week... 

    explain..? 
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