Brady didnt make Welker nor any other receiver. Its the system, Pats always just find guys who can run after the catch, I bet Brady has the most tds and most completions of 25 yards or more from 7-10 yard passes of any qb in history. Pats always running slant routes so Brady just has to thread the needle on those and he does a great job of that. Which makes one think why dont more teams try and duplicate the Pat's system.
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Brady didnt make Welker nor any other receiver. Its the system, Pats always just find guys who can run after the catch, I bet Brady has the most tds and most completions of 25 yards or more from 7-10 yard passes of any qb in history. Pats always running slant routes so Brady just has to thread the needle on those and he does a great job of that. Which makes one think why dont more teams try and duplicate the Pat's system.
Some people are too fuccking stupid to realize they are witnessing greatness. Brady is hands down top 5 ALL TIME at his position. Anybody who argues that is just a Pats hater or doesn't know football. He has won with less talent than any other QB of all time. He has won superbowls with WR's that most people couldn't name unlike Manning who played in a dome for a minimum of 8 games per year in perfect weather conditions with 2 Hall of Fame Wr's.
I am a Knicks fan and back in the day Jordan use to destroy them and I hated him and all the Bulls fans but I always appreciated that I was watching the best player to lace up sneakers of all time. It is fine to hate a player and a team,it is idiotic to let that hate get in the way of appreciating their greatness.
I don't see what all the haters hate about Brady. He is the ultimate teammate,never throws his team under the bus,never makes remarks like Manning has when he said after a loss "the better team loss today". Brady gives credit and takes blame,what more could you want from a leader?
The Great Brady that has put up a 51.1 QB Rating last 5 years of post season play .
The Great Brady with 19 INTs in last 14 post season games.
The Great Brady with a 3.95 yards per air ranking which puts him at 46 and tied with Jon Kitna .
The Great Brady playing in two Super Bowls vs the Giants and going 0-13 with one INT in balls throw 20 yards in the air or longer
These are all Stats by Tom Brady the Greatest QB in the history of the game .
i agree we are witnessing Greatness here
good call
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Quote Originally Posted by chaloots:
Some people are too fuccking stupid to realize they are witnessing greatness. Brady is hands down top 5 ALL TIME at his position. Anybody who argues that is just a Pats hater or doesn't know football. He has won with less talent than any other QB of all time. He has won superbowls with WR's that most people couldn't name unlike Manning who played in a dome for a minimum of 8 games per year in perfect weather conditions with 2 Hall of Fame Wr's.
I am a Knicks fan and back in the day Jordan use to destroy them and I hated him and all the Bulls fans but I always appreciated that I was watching the best player to lace up sneakers of all time. It is fine to hate a player and a team,it is idiotic to let that hate get in the way of appreciating their greatness.
I don't see what all the haters hate about Brady. He is the ultimate teammate,never throws his team under the bus,never makes remarks like Manning has when he said after a loss "the better team loss today". Brady gives credit and takes blame,what more could you want from a leader?
The Great Brady that has put up a 51.1 QB Rating last 5 years of post season play .
The Great Brady with 19 INTs in last 14 post season games.
The Great Brady with a 3.95 yards per air ranking which puts him at 46 and tied with Jon Kitna .
The Great Brady playing in two Super Bowls vs the Giants and going 0-13 with one INT in balls throw 20 yards in the air or longer
These are all Stats by Tom Brady the Greatest QB in the history of the game .
Also, if you're going to penalize Brady for being in a system tailored to his skill set then that means Joe Montana sucked too. He greatly benefited from the West Coast offense in San Francisco. Had he been drafted by some crappy team with a crappy system he probably wouldnt have panned out either.
You can't penalize a player for being in a good system. That's what breeds success. You can't find a single successful QB and say "look at this guy, the system was awful, his coach was awful but hey! he won many titles!"
You're just looking for a way to bash someone you don't like.
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Also, if you're going to penalize Brady for being in a system tailored to his skill set then that means Joe Montana sucked too. He greatly benefited from the West Coast offense in San Francisco. Had he been drafted by some crappy team with a crappy system he probably wouldnt have panned out either.
You can't penalize a player for being in a good system. That's what breeds success. You can't find a single successful QB and say "look at this guy, the system was awful, his coach was awful but hey! he won many titles!"
You're just looking for a way to bash someone you don't like.
Listen if Tom Brady went any where else other than The New England Patriots and was given the same chance to play as he had with the Patriots , he wouldn't be in football right now , and very few people would even know the name Tom Brady, including Gisele Bundchen , and that's the honest truth.
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Listen if Tom Brady went any where else other than The New England Patriots and was given the same chance to play as he had with the Patriots , he wouldn't be in football right now , and very few people would even know the name Tom Brady, including Gisele Bundchen , and that's the honest truth.
I don't know what's worse? The original post or the brutal article that came linked with it.
And I'm far from a Brady lover. I'll even go as far to say you made a couple good points in your lame assessment of him, but the lengths you go to to pretty much call him garbage is ASININE.
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I don't know what's worse? The original post or the brutal article that came linked with it.
And I'm far from a Brady lover. I'll even go as far to say you made a couple good points in your lame assessment of him, but the lengths you go to to pretty much call him garbage is ASININE.
I don't know what's worse? The original post or the brutal article that came linked with it.
And I'm far from a Brady lover. I'll even go as far to say you made a couple good points in your lame assessment of him, but the lengths you go to to pretty much call him garbage is ASININE.
It has to be to that length to have a fair assessment of what he actually is, when you have the media who really are the one's being ASININE constantly telling us that he is the greatest of all time when he's not even that in the present .
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Quote Originally Posted by glyde69:
I don't know what's worse? The original post or the brutal article that came linked with it.
And I'm far from a Brady lover. I'll even go as far to say you made a couple good points in your lame assessment of him, but the lengths you go to to pretty much call him garbage is ASININE.
It has to be to that length to have a fair assessment of what he actually is, when you have the media who really are the one's being ASININE constantly telling us that he is the greatest of all time when he's not even that in the present .
If it's "not that difficult to win two home games in the playoffs", why doesn't the #1 seeds in each division make the Super Bowl every year??
In a 1 game situation the best teams don't always win , in the patriots situation this is a team that goes threw years without losing a single home game in the regular season .
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They have won over 90% of home games in regular season for last 12 years ,
yet in the playoffs have been 1 and done, lost two home playoff games by 26 points as a result of bad QB play and Brady's 51.1 QB rating last 5 years and 19 INTs in last 14 games bears that out .
This are Brady stats he owns them , don't shoot the messenger .
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Quote Originally Posted by oahuboy808:
If it's "not that difficult to win two home games in the playoffs", why doesn't the #1 seeds in each division make the Super Bowl every year??
In a 1 game situation the best teams don't always win , in the patriots situation this is a team that goes threw years without losing a single home game in the regular season .
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They have won over 90% of home games in regular season for last 12 years ,
yet in the playoffs have been 1 and done, lost two home playoff games by 26 points as a result of bad QB play and Brady's 51.1 QB rating last 5 years and 19 INTs in last 14 games bears that out .
This are Brady stats he owns them , don't shoot the messenger .
yes it is luck,(48 yd FG in a snow storm ) which had nothing to do with Brady, a TD pass in AFC champ game by Bledsoe vs pitt also nothing to do with Brady , the ,defense scoring points off turnovers in superbowl again nothing to do with Brady .
Brady's actually never played that great in any super bowls , yet he seems to get all the credit . Counting Rings on QBs is just a bunch of stupid talk . its a team game .
When it's really just a 3 game championship in the Pats case with usually 2 home games , and another at a neutral site . it's not the greatest accomplishment , it really the law of averages , when you win that stinky AFC east division every year .
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Quote Originally Posted by cardinals19:
You don't win three super bowls just by luck.
yes it is luck,(48 yd FG in a snow storm ) which had nothing to do with Brady, a TD pass in AFC champ game by Bledsoe vs pitt also nothing to do with Brady , the ,defense scoring points off turnovers in superbowl again nothing to do with Brady .
Brady's actually never played that great in any super bowls , yet he seems to get all the credit . Counting Rings on QBs is just a bunch of stupid talk . its a team game .
When it's really just a 3 game championship in the Pats case with usually 2 home games , and another at a neutral site . it's not the greatest accomplishment , it really the law of averages , when you win that stinky AFC east division every year .
the guy is garbage he is a phoney box ..did you see him kick Ed Reed last yr in the Championship game. The guy folds when he sees any pressure and plays in a division that has sucked for a decade. But he is a good qb no way around it. I hate him but he can play the position
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the guy is garbage he is a phoney box ..did you see him kick Ed Reed last yr in the Championship game. The guy folds when he sees any pressure and plays in a division that has sucked for a decade. But he is a good qb no way around it. I hate him but he can play the position
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