Yea, Pick, I think I saw +5 last night for this game.
Zona I think is finally getting the respect they deserve. Coming into the season, it was all NE, SEA, GB, INDY, DALLAS.
Then in the early weeks, a lot of Cincy and Denver love started sprouting. Finally it took Zona not only beating Seattle in Seattle, but how they beat them. They dominated and opened a big lead. Crazy set of events put Seattle in the lead 4th quarter. 99% of the time, Seattle holds on and it's the game "zona let slip away." But instead Palmer calmly and almost easily led Zona to two late TD drives and buried them.
So finally Zona is getting respect from the books and bettors both. Now throw in Cincy looked awful on MNF losing straight up on prime time as a 9.5-11.5 dog depending when u got it......here's a game that the line is a straight -3 if it was last Saturday before the week 10 games. Now it's -5(don't quote me but I think I saw 5 late last night).
What to make of it?? I don't think I'm gonna bet it, but I'm certainly gonna record the game and watch it closely on Tuesday after work to see how AFC vs NFC powerhouses play each other. I'm interested in how much pressure Cincy gets rushing 4. How Zona's o-line protects Palmer straight up and on blitzes. Also, I wanna see if zona can get to the QB for sacks. For a pretty good defense and a D who assaulted QB's last year, I think they are in the lower 1/3 of the NFL in QB hurries and sacks. I would like to see how Zona's run D does when Cincy comes out and looks to run Hill HARD off LT or RT. Or how their ends play contain and D as a whole stretches things out when Bernard tries to get to the outside.
Gun to my head, I agree with b-pickin. Gotta think Cincy and 5 points is the way to go, but I think I'm just gonna sit back and analyze how both of these teams handle business in a huge game on MNF.
As for the line, I would think it floats out there a little bit in the 4.5/5 range, and then Cincy money drives it back down on Monday. Settles in the -4 area while playing flip flop games with the juice trying to sucker as many people as they can at -115 or -120.
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Yea, Pick, I think I saw +5 last night for this game.
Zona I think is finally getting the respect they deserve. Coming into the season, it was all NE, SEA, GB, INDY, DALLAS.
Then in the early weeks, a lot of Cincy and Denver love started sprouting. Finally it took Zona not only beating Seattle in Seattle, but how they beat them. They dominated and opened a big lead. Crazy set of events put Seattle in the lead 4th quarter. 99% of the time, Seattle holds on and it's the game "zona let slip away." But instead Palmer calmly and almost easily led Zona to two late TD drives and buried them.
So finally Zona is getting respect from the books and bettors both. Now throw in Cincy looked awful on MNF losing straight up on prime time as a 9.5-11.5 dog depending when u got it......here's a game that the line is a straight -3 if it was last Saturday before the week 10 games. Now it's -5(don't quote me but I think I saw 5 late last night).
What to make of it?? I don't think I'm gonna bet it, but I'm certainly gonna record the game and watch it closely on Tuesday after work to see how AFC vs NFC powerhouses play each other. I'm interested in how much pressure Cincy gets rushing 4. How Zona's o-line protects Palmer straight up and on blitzes. Also, I wanna see if zona can get to the QB for sacks. For a pretty good defense and a D who assaulted QB's last year, I think they are in the lower 1/3 of the NFL in QB hurries and sacks. I would like to see how Zona's run D does when Cincy comes out and looks to run Hill HARD off LT or RT. Or how their ends play contain and D as a whole stretches things out when Bernard tries to get to the outside.
Gun to my head, I agree with b-pickin. Gotta think Cincy and 5 points is the way to go, but I think I'm just gonna sit back and analyze how both of these teams handle business in a huge game on MNF.
As for the line, I would think it floats out there a little bit in the 4.5/5 range, and then Cincy money drives it back down on Monday. Settles in the -4 area while playing flip flop games with the juice trying to sucker as many people as they can at -115 or -120.
So based on what I have learned over the years, teams that are undefeated ats and lose ats usually( not always) bounce back ats the following week. So with that all I can see is a Cincinnati cover. On top of that the line has all ready moved to 4 which makes me like it even more.
Anyone else have any input?
Dalton scares the crap out of me when he plays primetime. It's like he's a completley different QB. I don't know his numbers when he's under the big lights but they can't be good from my recollection. Line is now 5 and I got Cards at -3 earlier this week. Gonna roll the dice and hope Cards play a steady game against Cincy. GL
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Quote Originally Posted by bpickin:
So based on what I have learned over the years, teams that are undefeated ats and lose ats usually( not always) bounce back ats the following week. So with that all I can see is a Cincinnati cover. On top of that the line has all ready moved to 4 which makes me like it even more.
Anyone else have any input?
Dalton scares the crap out of me when he plays primetime. It's like he's a completley different QB. I don't know his numbers when he's under the big lights but they can't be good from my recollection. Line is now 5 and I got Cards at -3 earlier this week. Gonna roll the dice and hope Cards play a steady game against Cincy. GL
If it was any other QB Cincy would easily win, however, Carson Palmer against his old team...that's different.
Cinncy is a bad 1half team going 1-4 ATS lately. Depending on the line you caught Zona has been 4-1 ATS for the 1half. That would be my best bet Zona -3 first half or lower.
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If it was any other QB Cincy would easily win, however, Carson Palmer against his old team...that's different.
Cinncy is a bad 1half team going 1-4 ATS lately. Depending on the line you caught Zona has been 4-1 ATS for the 1half. That would be my best bet Zona -3 first half or lower.
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