How is going 1 - 1 last week on MNF completey wrong??
I was not completely wrong last week DONKEY...I took the OVER and if I recall I got that right...and if McDonald knew how to play man to man DEF I would have covered the spread...Don't act like you thought you had that wager locked up and make it look like a made a horrible call...lol Unreal, how people look at things after the fact.
Where did I say to horrible DEF's?Please don't make something up. Where did I say that?
NO GOOD LUCK TO YOU...I HOPE YOU LOSE! And my name isn't FRANK. Definately go over huh? This game will be in the Mid 30's.
Well you said Lewis will rush for over 100 yards easy?(Bufallo bad defence) and Cleveland is ranked 26th in defence? hmm?? I dont know about you but that sounds like alot of scoring to me!
where are you getting your Under pick from anyways? the snow that your HOPING will fall or the refs that your HOPING will make bad calls against the Bills?
either way i dont think I can go with your wishful gut feelings here..gotta go with the numbers. Both teams suck on defence! this game is an over.
p.s. the only thing i will apologize for is calling u Frank. other than that Monday Night Football Baby!
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Quote Originally Posted by Fpronk:
How is going 1 - 1 last week on MNF completey wrong??
I was not completely wrong last week DONKEY...I took the OVER and if I recall I got that right...and if McDonald knew how to play man to man DEF I would have covered the spread...Don't act like you thought you had that wager locked up and make it look like a made a horrible call...lol Unreal, how people look at things after the fact.
Where did I say to horrible DEF's?Please don't make something up. Where did I say that?
NO GOOD LUCK TO YOU...I HOPE YOU LOSE! And my name isn't FRANK. Definately go over huh? This game will be in the Mid 30's.
Well you said Lewis will rush for over 100 yards easy?(Bufallo bad defence) and Cleveland is ranked 26th in defence? hmm?? I dont know about you but that sounds like alot of scoring to me!
where are you getting your Under pick from anyways? the snow that your HOPING will fall or the refs that your HOPING will make bad calls against the Bills?
either way i dont think I can go with your wishful gut feelings here..gotta go with the numbers. Both teams suck on defence! this game is an over.
p.s. the only thing i will apologize for is calling u Frank. other than that Monday Night Football Baby!
How is Quinn overrated he played one game? Another ignorant statement...apparently you more of a fan of the Bills rather than football....right now there are several NFL teams that would be more than happy to put Quinn on there team's roster.
The element is the fact that he can scramble when the pocket begins to collapse...there were at least two times last week that he made plays were DA would have been sacked. He also made a TD pass to Winslow that DA would have never thrown or probably wouldn't have seen.
He is very decisive, a leader, and has the respect of his teammates in the huddle. Is that enough?
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How is Quinn overrated he played one game? Another ignorant statement...apparently you more of a fan of the Bills rather than football....right now there are several NFL teams that would be more than happy to put Quinn on there team's roster.
The element is the fact that he can scramble when the pocket begins to collapse...there were at least two times last week that he made plays were DA would have been sacked. He also made a TD pass to Winslow that DA would have never thrown or probably wouldn't have seen.
He is very decisive, a leader, and has the respect of his teammates in the huddle. Is that enough?
Snow? Who said anything about Snow...stop telling why and how I am making my picks. STOP PUTTING WORDS INTO MY POSTS THAT AREN'T THERE....lol I don't believe I said EASY 100 yards!
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Snow? Who said anything about Snow...stop telling why and how I am making my picks. STOP PUTTING WORDS INTO MY POSTS THAT AREN'T THERE....lol I don't believe I said EASY 100 yards!
How is Quinn overrated he played one game? Another ignorant statement...apparently you more of a fan of the Bills rather than football....right now there are several NFL teams that would be more than happy to put Quinn on there team's roster.
The element is the fact that he can scramble when the pocket begins to collapse...there were at least two times last week that he made plays were DA would have been sacked. He also made a TD pass to Winslow that DA would have never thrown or probably wouldn't have seen.
He is very decisive, a leader, and has the respect of his teammates in the huddle. Is that enough?
I dont get it, are you arguing for me?? I think Quinn is over-rated because he has played 1 complete game!! and he has NEVER played an NFL road game! I agree he is better than DA but that isnt saying much. I think the ball will go to Lewis alot and Quinn will throw at least 1 pick. This equates for an OVER.
and i havent checked yet but I know Shaun Rogers hurt his arm the last game is he even playing?? huge loss for the Browns if he isnt.
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Quote Originally Posted by Fpronk:
How is Quinn overrated he played one game? Another ignorant statement...apparently you more of a fan of the Bills rather than football....right now there are several NFL teams that would be more than happy to put Quinn on there team's roster.
The element is the fact that he can scramble when the pocket begins to collapse...there were at least two times last week that he made plays were DA would have been sacked. He also made a TD pass to Winslow that DA would have never thrown or probably wouldn't have seen.
He is very decisive, a leader, and has the respect of his teammates in the huddle. Is that enough?
I dont get it, are you arguing for me?? I think Quinn is over-rated because he has played 1 complete game!! and he has NEVER played an NFL road game! I agree he is better than DA but that isnt saying much. I think the ball will go to Lewis alot and Quinn will throw at least 1 pick. This equates for an OVER.
and i havent checked yet but I know Shaun Rogers hurt his arm the last game is he even playing?? huge loss for the Browns if he isnt.
I just checked the weather and looked at the Radar and look likes the majority of snow might miss Buffalo. I still think this game will be a grind it out kinda game and will be close to the posted total. If there is any snow or rain/snow mix this will only help the UNDER. You have to figure with Quinn starting his first road game on MNF the Browns and Romeo will want to eliminate any mistakes and will try to get this run game started. Look for Lewis to carry the load here...25 plus carries = Browns W.
you're hoping for snow and rain to affect the Under. you said it not me
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Quote Originally Posted by Fpronk:
I just checked the weather and looked at the Radar and look likes the majority of snow might miss Buffalo. I still think this game will be a grind it out kinda game and will be close to the posted total. If there is any snow or rain/snow mix this will only help the UNDER. You have to figure with Quinn starting his first road game on MNF the Browns and Romeo will want to eliminate any mistakes and will try to get this run game started. Look for Lewis to carry the load here...25 plus carries = Browns W.
you're hoping for snow and rain to affect the Under. you said it not me
you're hoping for snow and rain to affect the Under. you said it not me
Again, I don't want to be rude...but you're a moron. I never said I was hoping for snow or rain...Jesus Christ kid..please read my post. I said any snow or snow/rain mix would only help my UNDER!!! This means it will only lock my UNDER a better play!
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Quote Originally Posted by carlweezer:
you're hoping for snow and rain to affect the Under. you said it not me
Again, I don't want to be rude...but you're a moron. I never said I was hoping for snow or rain...Jesus Christ kid..please read my post. I said any snow or snow/rain mix would only help my UNDER!!! This means it will only lock my UNDER a better play!
Again, I don't want to be rude...but you're a moron. I never said I was hoping for snow or rain...Jesus Christ kid..please read my post. I said any snow or snow/rain mix would only help my UNDER!!! This means it will only lock my UNDER a better play!
isnt that the same thing?
and I cant believe you think that the Browns and their 26th ranked defence and possibly without Shaun Rogers will hold the Bills and their crowd to just 13 points! ???? where did u get this fact?
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Quote Originally Posted by Fpronk:
Again, I don't want to be rude...but you're a moron. I never said I was hoping for snow or rain...Jesus Christ kid..please read my post. I said any snow or snow/rain mix would only help my UNDER!!! This means it will only lock my UNDER a better play!
isnt that the same thing?
and I cant believe you think that the Browns and their 26th ranked defence and possibly without Shaun Rogers will hold the Bills and their crowd to just 13 points! ???? where did u get this fact?
and I cant believe you think that the Browns and their 26th ranked defence and possibly without Shaun Rogers will hold the Bills and their crowd to just 13 points! ???? where did u get this fact?
No, it's clearly not the same thing.
Carl, you're showing your ignorance...it can't be fact yet because the game hasn't been played. That is my prediction and if you want to know I got a crystal ball in my box of Captian Crunch this morning...ok, that's how I know and I asked my Magic 8 ball if the Browns cover and it said yes. Then I flipped a coin and Heads (buffalo) Tails (cleveland) and it came up Tails...that is how I know.
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Quote Originally Posted by carlweezer:
isnt that the same thing?
and I cant believe you think that the Browns and their 26th ranked defence and possibly without Shaun Rogers will hold the Bills and their crowd to just 13 points! ???? where did u get this fact?
No, it's clearly not the same thing.
Carl, you're showing your ignorance...it can't be fact yet because the game hasn't been played. That is my prediction and if you want to know I got a crystal ball in my box of Captian Crunch this morning...ok, that's how I know and I asked my Magic 8 ball if the Browns cover and it said yes. Then I flipped a coin and Heads (buffalo) Tails (cleveland) and it came up Tails...that is how I know.
carl :: I appreciate your stance and how strongly you want everyone to take your side but you really give no reasons for your play.
If the books thought this game would be high scoring wouldn't the O/U be between 47 and 51? Vegas doesn't give money away my friend.
To be honest I dont really care who comes along for the ride with me, thats why i said Good Luck to Me, but your right I havent given any reasoning to my play so here it is..
Buff Bills vs Cle Brown OVER 40
1. Josh Cribs maybe the best special teams player in the league he doesnt need much to run one back. Roscoe Parrish for the Bills isnt bad either.
2. Buffallo is playing hordendous defence lately. They dont have enough personel to hold Winslow, Edwards and Lewis down all game. In retrospect the Browns are ranked 26th overall in Defence! which means Evans and Lynch will have a big game.
3 Turnover factor- this will lead to scoring or at worst great field position for the other team.
4. Over is 7-1-1 the last 9 games Buffalo plays on turf.
and the main reason this game is at 40 over/under is because Vegas is basing this too muh on last years score which was 8-0 for Cleveland. Also the chance of rain and snow has lowered the total.
Throw that all down the drain because tonight there will be no DEFENCE!
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Quote Originally Posted by Fpronk:
carl :: I appreciate your stance and how strongly you want everyone to take your side but you really give no reasons for your play.
If the books thought this game would be high scoring wouldn't the O/U be between 47 and 51? Vegas doesn't give money away my friend.
To be honest I dont really care who comes along for the ride with me, thats why i said Good Luck to Me, but your right I havent given any reasoning to my play so here it is..
Buff Bills vs Cle Brown OVER 40
1. Josh Cribs maybe the best special teams player in the league he doesnt need much to run one back. Roscoe Parrish for the Bills isnt bad either.
2. Buffallo is playing hordendous defence lately. They dont have enough personel to hold Winslow, Edwards and Lewis down all game. In retrospect the Browns are ranked 26th overall in Defence! which means Evans and Lynch will have a big game.
3 Turnover factor- this will lead to scoring or at worst great field position for the other team.
4. Over is 7-1-1 the last 9 games Buffalo plays on turf.
and the main reason this game is at 40 over/under is because Vegas is basing this too muh on last years score which was 8-0 for Cleveland. Also the chance of rain and snow has lowered the total.
Throw that all down the drain because tonight there will be no DEFENCE!
what jackasses..LISTEN TO THE MAN THE MAN HAS SPOKEN
calls games better than all you lames
hahaha CLEVELAND TO THE BANK
Fpronk is that you? did you make 2 accounts? calls games better than anyone? wow u gotta be kidding me! i can name at least 15 handicappers that are better.
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Quote Originally Posted by usikbasterd:
what jackasses..LISTEN TO THE MAN THE MAN HAS SPOKEN
calls games better than all you lames
hahaha CLEVELAND TO THE BANK
Fpronk is that you? did you make 2 accounts? calls games better than anyone? wow u gotta be kidding me! i can name at least 15 handicappers that are better.
Carl, you're showing your ignorance...it can't be fact yet because the game hasn't been played. That is my prediction and if you want to know I got a crystal ball in my box of Captian Crunch this morning...ok, that's how I know and I asked my Magic 8 ball if the Browns cover and it said yes. Then I flipped a coin and Heads (buffalo) Tails (cleveland) and it came up Tails...that is how I know.
Fpronk lets end this right here right now, in front of whoever is reading can be the witness.
We can make a bet, no money involved.
You said that the Bills wont score 13 points. I will take that and say they do. so the line is Bills to score 12.5 points.
The loser erases their covers.com account. If I lose I will be a man of my word and erase the account and wont re-register in a different name. same goes for u ..
do we have a deal?
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Quote Originally Posted by Fpronk:
No, it's clearly not the same thing.
Carl, you're showing your ignorance...it can't be fact yet because the game hasn't been played. That is my prediction and if you want to know I got a crystal ball in my box of Captian Crunch this morning...ok, that's how I know and I asked my Magic 8 ball if the Browns cover and it said yes. Then I flipped a coin and Heads (buffalo) Tails (cleveland) and it came up Tails...that is how I know.
Fpronk lets end this right here right now, in front of whoever is reading can be the witness.
We can make a bet, no money involved.
You said that the Bills wont score 13 points. I will take that and say they do. so the line is Bills to score 12.5 points.
The loser erases their covers.com account. If I lose I will be a man of my word and erase the account and wont re-register in a different name. same goes for u ..
I can post trends too...Carl. And if you're going to use trends then my picks are definately better Carl.
And Carl, you don't know me nor have you been following my picks and no I don't have two accounts...I have many people who have followed me since September and have done well. I don't need to give myself props...maybe that's how you do things.
ATS
Browns are 5-1 ATS in their last 6 games after allowing more than 250 yards passing in their previous game.
Browns are 9-1 ATS in their last 10 games after allowing more than 30 points in their previous game.
Browns are 6-1-1 ATS in their last 8 games in Week 11.
Browns are 13-3 ATS vs. a team with a winning record.
Browns are 9-3 ATS in their last 12 games following a S.U. loss.
Browns are 9-3 ATS in their last 12 games following a ATS loss.
Browns are 17-7 ATS in their last 24 games overall.
Browns are 12-5 ATS in their last 17 vs. AFC.
Browns are 7-3 ATS in their last 10 road games.
Bills are 1-4 ATS in their last 5 games overall.
Bills are 1-4 ATS in their last 5 vs. AFC.
Bills are 0-4 ATS in their last 4 games in November.
UNDERS
Under is 6-2 in Browns last 8 games following a S.U. loss.
Under is 11-4 in Browns last 15 games overall.
Under is 7-3 in Browns last 10 vs. AFC.
Under is 11-4 in Bills last 15 vs. a team with a losing record.
Under is 5-1-1 in Bills last 7 vs. AFC.
Under is 26-11-1 in Bills last 38 games following a ATS loss.
Under is 35-16-1 in Bills last 52 games following a S.U. loss.
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I can post trends too...Carl. And if you're going to use trends then my picks are definately better Carl.
And Carl, you don't know me nor have you been following my picks and no I don't have two accounts...I have many people who have followed me since September and have done well. I don't need to give myself props...maybe that's how you do things.
ATS
Browns are 5-1 ATS in their last 6 games after allowing more than 250 yards passing in their previous game.
Browns are 9-1 ATS in their last 10 games after allowing more than 30 points in their previous game.
Browns are 6-1-1 ATS in their last 8 games in Week 11.
Browns are 13-3 ATS vs. a team with a winning record.
Browns are 9-3 ATS in their last 12 games following a S.U. loss.
Browns are 9-3 ATS in their last 12 games following a ATS loss.
Browns are 17-7 ATS in their last 24 games overall.
Browns are 12-5 ATS in their last 17 vs. AFC.
Browns are 7-3 ATS in their last 10 road games.
Bills are 1-4 ATS in their last 5 games overall.
Bills are 1-4 ATS in their last 5 vs. AFC.
Bills are 0-4 ATS in their last 4 games in November.
UNDERS
Under is 6-2 in Browns last 8 games following a S.U. loss.
Under is 11-4 in Browns last 15 games overall.
Under is 7-3 in Browns last 10 vs. AFC.
Under is 11-4 in Bills last 15 vs. a team with a losing record.
Under is 5-1-1 in Bills last 7 vs. AFC.
Under is 26-11-1 in Bills last 38 games following a ATS loss.
Under is 35-16-1 in Bills last 52 games following a S.U. loss.
I also said I would be surprised if Buffalo scores no more than 13 points...this does not imply they won't score 17...Why would I make a wager on this...you really show your immaturity by even suggesting such a stupid wager.
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I also said I would be surprised if Buffalo scores no more than 13 points...this does not imply they won't score 17...Why would I make a wager on this...you really show your immaturity by even suggesting such a stupid wager.
How about we bet that I drink more than 3 beers and eat 10 buffalo wings while watching the game tonight?...or we can bet I can take my size 10 shoe and kick you in the ass.
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How about we bet that I drink more than 3 beers and eat 10 buffalo wings while watching the game tonight?...or we can bet I can take my size 10 shoe and kick you in the ass.
Carl, you remind me of a couple stalkers I once had..and he kept getting banned...and apparently you have a new account..makes me wonder if you're the same jack ass...I bet you I am right. I'll ask a MOD to check your IP address and verify it against the other stalker.
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Carl, you remind me of a couple stalkers I once had..and he kept getting banned...and apparently you have a new account..makes me wonder if you're the same jack ass...I bet you I am right. I'll ask a MOD to check your IP address and verify it against the other stalker.
I knew it...nice play Kurylyk99. Here comes your true colors. As you've noticed before the Browns cover spreads...I named them and you know them...you haven't read my posts...your just a ahole stalker who likes to stir the pot. Get a life kid...how many more times are you gonna get banned? I wonder how many email accounts you have to create before coming back to covers.
I am backing my words...I am taking the Browns +5.5 and Under 41.5. What more do I need to do to back my words kid?
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I knew it...nice play Kurylyk99. Here comes your true colors. As you've noticed before the Browns cover spreads...I named them and you know them...you haven't read my posts...your just a ahole stalker who likes to stir the pot. Get a life kid...how many more times are you gonna get banned? I wonder how many email accounts you have to create before coming back to covers.
I am backing my words...I am taking the Browns +5.5 and Under 41.5. What more do I need to do to back my words kid?
Man I gotta go with the Bills in this one. I think they return to early season form in front of a home crowd for Monday night. This will be a statement game to show that they are serious AFC contenders. The Browns havent found themselves yet and alot of bettors believe in them. They may be right but I just dont see it. Late season in Orchard Parck is a bear to win snow or no snow. That crowd is tremendous. The Bills are a talented offensive team, no one can dispute that.
Teased the Bills -14.5 (+280)
BOL
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Man I gotta go with the Bills in this one. I think they return to early season form in front of a home crowd for Monday night. This will be a statement game to show that they are serious AFC contenders. The Browns havent found themselves yet and alot of bettors believe in them. They may be right but I just dont see it. Late season in Orchard Parck is a bear to win snow or no snow. That crowd is tremendous. The Bills are a talented offensive team, no one can dispute that.
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