That game against Seattle yesterday was one of the worst played games I have ever seen by my Raiders. Players and coaches alike they did absolutely nothing good. I knew after the Mack trade (stupid fukkers) that it would be a tough year but never thought it would be this bad. They have some talent still but just don't seem to care with their actions on the field. That QB sneak by Carr yesterday was as lame as it comes.
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That game against Seattle yesterday was one of the worst played games I have ever seen by my Raiders. Players and coaches alike they did absolutely nothing good. I knew after the Mack trade (stupid fukkers) that it would be a tough year but never thought it would be this bad. They have some talent still but just don't seem to care with their actions on the field. That QB sneak by Carr yesterday was as lame as it comes.
That game against Seattle yesterday was one of the worst played games I have ever seen by my Raiders. Players and coaches alike they did absolutely nothing good. I knew after the Mack trade (stupid fukkers) that it would be a tough year but never thought it would be this bad. They have some talent still but just don't seem to care with their actions on the field. That QB sneak by Carr yesterday was as lame as it comes.
that was an absolute terrible performance, actually mind boggling.
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Quote Originally Posted by thehuntman:
That game against Seattle yesterday was one of the worst played games I have ever seen by my Raiders. Players and coaches alike they did absolutely nothing good. I knew after the Mack trade (stupid fukkers) that it would be a tough year but never thought it would be this bad. They have some talent still but just don't seem to care with their actions on the field. That QB sneak by Carr yesterday was as lame as it comes.
that was an absolute terrible performance, actually mind boggling.
Derek Carr is going to become like his brother in no time. It’s a damn shame because both are super talented, they just never had a good line to protect them and/or poor coaching.
David Carr was playing absolutely terrified at one point
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Derek Carr is going to become like his brother in no time. It’s a damn shame because both are super talented, they just never had a good line to protect them and/or poor coaching.
David Carr was playing absolutely terrified at one point
Jimmy Johnson 1-15 in his first year with the Dallas Cowboys - fans call him a idiot for trading Herschel walker? The rest is history? patient- raiders is all
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Jimmy Johnson 1-15 in his first year with the Dallas Cowboys - fans call him a idiot for trading Herschel walker? The rest is history? patient- raiders is all
about 2020 when they open up in Vegas - The capital entertainment of the world !! Chucky knows what he’s doing -
Derek Carr is going to become like his brother in no time. It’s a damn shame because both are super talented, they just never had a good line to protect them and/or poor coaching. David Carr was playing absolutely terrified at one point
Ever since Derek suffered that leg injury he hasn't been close to what he was and he definitely is playing scared. When healthy Oakland has one of the better Olines in the NFL but he still plays scared?
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Quote Originally Posted by trashbets:
Derek Carr is going to become like his brother in no time. It’s a damn shame because both are super talented, they just never had a good line to protect them and/or poor coaching. David Carr was playing absolutely terrified at one point
Ever since Derek suffered that leg injury he hasn't been close to what he was and he definitely is playing scared. When healthy Oakland has one of the better Olines in the NFL but he still plays scared?
Raiders would still be 1-5 with Mack - enough with that crap - carr is not a good QB- he’s honestly cost them 2 games Rams/miAmi
100 million dollar man. They gave all that money to the wrong person. I said the day he signed that contract things would go downhill for him and so far I am bang on. What a waste....
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Quote Originally Posted by Ikid2groove035:
Raiders would still be 1-5 with Mack - enough with that crap - carr is not a good QB- he’s honestly cost them 2 games Rams/miAmi
100 million dollar man. They gave all that money to the wrong person. I said the day he signed that contract things would go downhill for him and so far I am bang on. What a waste....
They are the oldest team in the NFL with new coaches everywhere. Nobody will come out and say it but after the Mack trade, I’m guessing if they continually lose games, they won’t be ultra mad in that they’ll get a high draft pick. If the bears go .500 or better that makes it all more important that the raiders get a high draft pick. The Raiders will be rebuilding next year and from what I’ve seen, they’ll have a lot of turnover come the offseason. People think this is all grudens fault but the blame goes on the GM for previous years. I understand fully where the raiders where coming from in trading Mack. He’s a huge piece but with all their holes, they needed picks and imo they almost had to take the two first round picks in return.
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They are the oldest team in the NFL with new coaches everywhere. Nobody will come out and say it but after the Mack trade, I’m guessing if they continually lose games, they won’t be ultra mad in that they’ll get a high draft pick. If the bears go .500 or better that makes it all more important that the raiders get a high draft pick. The Raiders will be rebuilding next year and from what I’ve seen, they’ll have a lot of turnover come the offseason. People think this is all grudens fault but the blame goes on the GM for previous years. I understand fully where the raiders where coming from in trading Mack. He’s a huge piece but with all their holes, they needed picks and imo they almost had to take the two first round picks in return.
That game against Seattle yesterday was one of the worst played games I have ever seen by my Raiders. Players and coaches alike they did absolutely nothing good. I knew after the Mack trade (stupid fukkers) that it would be a tough year but never thought it would be this bad. They have some talent still but just don't seem to care with their actions on the field. That QB sneak by Carr yesterday was as lame as it comes.
Hunt I thought my Bills were bad but the Raiders might be worse.
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Quote Originally Posted by thehuntman:
That game against Seattle yesterday was one of the worst played games I have ever seen by my Raiders. Players and coaches alike they did absolutely nothing good. I knew after the Mack trade (stupid fukkers) that it would be a tough year but never thought it would be this bad. They have some talent still but just don't seem to care with their actions on the field. That QB sneak by Carr yesterday was as lame as it comes.
Hunt I thought my Bills were bad but the Raiders might be worse.
Raiders clearly win the Mack trade....Raiders were not even picked to make the playoffs this season...Mack makes no difference..instead of being 8-8 with mack they will be 4-12...Smart move by Gruden...Next they need to dump Carr and go full rebuild....
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Raiders clearly win the Mack trade....Raiders were not even picked to make the playoffs this season...Mack makes no difference..instead of being 8-8 with mack they will be 4-12...Smart move by Gruden...Next they need to dump Carr and go full rebuild....
They are the oldest team in the NFL with new coaches everywhere. Nobody will come out and say it but after the Mack trade, I’m guessing if they continually lose games, they won’t be ultra mad in that they’ll get a high draft pick. If the bears go .500 or better that makes it all more important that the raiders get a high draft pick. The Raiders will be rebuilding next year and from what I’ve seen, they’ll have a lot of turnover come the offseason. People think this is all grudens fault but the blame goes on the GM for previous years. I understand fully where the raiders where coming from in trading Mack. He’s a huge piece but with all their holes, they needed picks and imo they almost had to take the two first round picks in return.
The problem is for the most part their drafting sucks. The Olinemen they drafted in the first round this year can't pass block if he tried. Not a bad run blocker but they could have had him probably in the 3rd round. It looks like Cooper wants out now and other than him and Mack their drafting has been horrible.
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Quote Originally Posted by Achilles1629:
They are the oldest team in the NFL with new coaches everywhere. Nobody will come out and say it but after the Mack trade, I’m guessing if they continually lose games, they won’t be ultra mad in that they’ll get a high draft pick. If the bears go .500 or better that makes it all more important that the raiders get a high draft pick. The Raiders will be rebuilding next year and from what I’ve seen, they’ll have a lot of turnover come the offseason. People think this is all grudens fault but the blame goes on the GM for previous years. I understand fully where the raiders where coming from in trading Mack. He’s a huge piece but with all their holes, they needed picks and imo they almost had to take the two first round picks in return.
The problem is for the most part their drafting sucks. The Olinemen they drafted in the first round this year can't pass block if he tried. Not a bad run blocker but they could have had him probably in the 3rd round. It looks like Cooper wants out now and other than him and Mack their drafting has been horrible.
Thats 141 million - Mack is a great player - works out well for the bears since there defense was already good - raiders had Mack last year and the defense was still bad - made no sense 2 give all that money- when gruden knows he’s rebuilding -
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Thats 141 million - Mack is a great player - works out well for the bears since there defense was already good - raiders had Mack last year and the defense was still bad - made no sense 2 give all that money- when gruden knows he’s rebuilding -
That game against Seattle yesterday was one of the worst played games I have ever seen by my Raiders. Players and coaches alike they did absolutely nothing good. I knew after the Mack trade (stupid fukkers) that it would be a tough year but never thought it would be this bad. They have some talent still but just don't seem to care with their actions on the field. That QB sneak by Carr yesterday was as lame as it comes.
Hunt I thought my Bills were bad but the Raiders might be worse.
Hey CC at least your Bills give an effort most games unlike Oakland.
Cheers buddy!
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Quote Originally Posted by CanadaCup:
Quote Originally Posted by thehuntman:
That game against Seattle yesterday was one of the worst played games I have ever seen by my Raiders. Players and coaches alike they did absolutely nothing good. I knew after the Mack trade (stupid fukkers) that it would be a tough year but never thought it would be this bad. They have some talent still but just don't seem to care with their actions on the field. That QB sneak by Carr yesterday was as lame as it comes.
Hunt I thought my Bills were bad but the Raiders might be worse.
Hey CC at least your Bills give an effort most games unlike Oakland.
Thats 141 million - Mack is a great player - works out well for the bears since there defense was already good - raiders had Mack last year and the defense was still bad - made no sense 2 give all that money- when gruden knows he’s rebuilding -
Bears went all in with Mack...Not sure what they were thinking...U get Mack if you are a playoff team and close to winning a SB and he takes you over the top. Bears will not even make the playoffs...
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Quote Originally Posted by Ikid2groove035:
Thats 141 million - Mack is a great player - works out well for the bears since there defense was already good - raiders had Mack last year and the defense was still bad - made no sense 2 give all that money- when gruden knows he’s rebuilding -
Bears went all in with Mack...Not sure what they were thinking...U get Mack if you are a playoff team and close to winning a SB and he takes you over the top. Bears will not even make the playoffs...
Dave they made the super bowl with a QB bum name REX Grossman- bears never had a elite QB- always defense - jim McMahon was alright - definitely not elite - I understand why the bears made that move
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Dave they made the super bowl with a QB bum name REX Grossman- bears never had a elite QB- always defense - jim McMahon was alright - definitely not elite - I understand why the bears made that move
Raiders clearly win the Mack trade....Raiders were not even picked to make the playoffs this season...Mack makes no difference..instead of being 8-8 with mack they will be 4-12...Smart move by Gruden...Next they need to dump Carr and go full rebuild....
Agreed. He was a great player on a poor team. Moves like this almost always yield good results down the road. You just have to wait for it. Sorry Oakland, Hello Las Vegas!
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Quote Originally Posted by davemsh:
Raiders clearly win the Mack trade....Raiders were not even picked to make the playoffs this season...Mack makes no difference..instead of being 8-8 with mack they will be 4-12...Smart move by Gruden...Next they need to dump Carr and go full rebuild....
Agreed. He was a great player on a poor team. Moves like this almost always yield good results down the road. You just have to wait for it. Sorry Oakland, Hello Las Vegas!
Raiders clearly win the Mack trade....Raiders were not even picked to make the playoffs this season...Mack makes no difference..instead of being 8-8 with mack they will be 4-12...Smart move by Gruden...Next they need to dump Carr and go full rebuild....
“Clearly”? Oh boy. Lots of laughs today and this may be the biggest one I’ve had. I’m sure this was ready to be written once the bears lost yesterday, right? “Mack makes no difference”? Yeah....he hasn’t had an amazing season already. Bears top 3 in sacks this year. Mack doesn’t make an already good defense, great, huh? Ohhhh and a 4 game improvement which is what you think his worth is, that’s not good or anything. Ya know....doubling your win total which are your words. Let me ask you something and it’s a very serious question....IF the bears go 8-8 which again is your guess, where does that leave them in the draft? 16,17,18th pick? Let’s say they do this two seasons in a row.....you think the raiders “CLEARLY” won this trade?! Haaaaaaa. You and so many of the public look at the money given to Mack and you go nuts. Mack won’t see the entire amount of money. The deal essentially gives him 3 years at 20 a season and after the third year they can cut him. In return, the bears got a second rounder. You knew this though, right? Nobody can say who has won this trade until the raiders make those picks the bears gave them. Nobody can even start the assessment FOR the raiders until we know where the bears finish yet 5 games into the trade when it CLEARLY shows that at this point, the bears are leading in this trade, you want to make a statement that CLEARLY is inaccurate and you even go as far as contradict yourself stating the picks are everything when RIGHT NOW, the Bears are leading their division. Oh man. Good laughs on this. Not in the mood to go back and forth with you in that we did this in the NBA playoffs and it didn’t go well for one of us but I had to give some reality to the post I just read above. Lastly, if you lined up every GM in the NFL, and even threw Oakland’s in there, how many do you think would say the Raiders are “CLEARLY” winning this trade? The answer is less than 2 I bet. These guys prolly don’t know what they are talking about though, right? Still laughing here.
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Quote Originally Posted by davemsh:
Raiders clearly win the Mack trade....Raiders were not even picked to make the playoffs this season...Mack makes no difference..instead of being 8-8 with mack they will be 4-12...Smart move by Gruden...Next they need to dump Carr and go full rebuild....
“Clearly”? Oh boy. Lots of laughs today and this may be the biggest one I’ve had. I’m sure this was ready to be written once the bears lost yesterday, right? “Mack makes no difference”? Yeah....he hasn’t had an amazing season already. Bears top 3 in sacks this year. Mack doesn’t make an already good defense, great, huh? Ohhhh and a 4 game improvement which is what you think his worth is, that’s not good or anything. Ya know....doubling your win total which are your words. Let me ask you something and it’s a very serious question....IF the bears go 8-8 which again is your guess, where does that leave them in the draft? 16,17,18th pick? Let’s say they do this two seasons in a row.....you think the raiders “CLEARLY” won this trade?! Haaaaaaa. You and so many of the public look at the money given to Mack and you go nuts. Mack won’t see the entire amount of money. The deal essentially gives him 3 years at 20 a season and after the third year they can cut him. In return, the bears got a second rounder. You knew this though, right? Nobody can say who has won this trade until the raiders make those picks the bears gave them. Nobody can even start the assessment FOR the raiders until we know where the bears finish yet 5 games into the trade when it CLEARLY shows that at this point, the bears are leading in this trade, you want to make a statement that CLEARLY is inaccurate and you even go as far as contradict yourself stating the picks are everything when RIGHT NOW, the Bears are leading their division. Oh man. Good laughs on this. Not in the mood to go back and forth with you in that we did this in the NBA playoffs and it didn’t go well for one of us but I had to give some reality to the post I just read above. Lastly, if you lined up every GM in the NFL, and even threw Oakland’s in there, how many do you think would say the Raiders are “CLEARLY” winning this trade? The answer is less than 2 I bet. These guys prolly don’t know what they are talking about though, right? Still laughing here.
Dave they made the super bowl with a QB bum name REX Grossman- bears never had a elite QB- always defense - jim McMahon was alright - definitely not elite - I understand why the bears made that move
You don't trade away your future - 2 1st round picks unless its for a QB....In 2 years....This will go down as a horrible trade.....You could win with a game manager QB 15-20 years ago and a great defense...but not in this era..You need a good QB/Offense...to win you games...
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Quote Originally Posted by Ikid2groove035:
Dave they made the super bowl with a QB bum name REX Grossman- bears never had a elite QB- always defense - jim McMahon was alright - definitely not elite - I understand why the bears made that move
You don't trade away your future - 2 1st round picks unless its for a QB....In 2 years....This will go down as a horrible trade.....You could win with a game manager QB 15-20 years ago and a great defense...but not in this era..You need a good QB/Offense...to win you games...
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