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    Falcons -2 1/2 WriteUp

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    Posted: Jan. 8, 2013 - 4:01 PM ET #1

    first of all, dont let the soft line fool you.  vegas has disrespected the falcons all year and set lines that appeared to be sucker bets all season.  look at week1: -1 @ KC (atl wins 40-24), week 5: -3 @ WASH (atl wins 24-17), week 9: -3 1/2 vs DALL (atl wins 19-13), week 15: -1 vs NYG (atl wins 34-0), and the line that everyone thought was a TRAP?  week 16: -3 1/2 @ DET (atl wins 31-18)  so please, dont be intimidated by biting on a questionable line.

    next, lets talk about the matchup.  this will be strength vs strength of the falcons 5th ranked pass offense vs the seattle 6th ranked pass defense.  but, dont forget that the falcon receivers are the most physical receiving core in the nfl in white, jones, douglas, and gonzales.  the reason the seattle secondary has bullied so many receiving corp's this year is not so much their ability to create a mismatch in speed, but their ability to out physical their foes and basically intimidate the s h # t out of them.  that will not happen vs atlanta.  also, before you talk about how good the seattle secondary is you cannot forget what is needed up front with their their 4 man pass rush coming from their D line.  seattle ranks pretty average in the nfl in terms of sacks registered with 36, but they actually are more built on generating pressure and QB hits, and they did a solid, not spectacular job of it.  they rotate their defensive linemen in all positions and they are pretty balanced in generating QB hits and pressures.  the problem is that they lost their #1 pass rusher chris clemons and this is a huge loss.  this guy is the most underrated pass rusher in the nfl with 11 sacks, 11 QB hits, and 37 QB pressures.  the reason bruce irvin has had such a good rookie season as a pass rusher is because opposing O lines would eventually have to double team clemons midway through games due to his ability to dominate off the edge and  irving would then have a much better opportunity to get to the QB.  now you have irvin having to convert to an almost everydown pass rusher and match him up with bookend red bryant, who is a pretty mediocre pass rusher.  irving is used to being a situational player and im not sure how he will fare when he has to play twice as many snaps as he is accustomed to doing.  i mention irving a lot only because he is the argument most people will make when i mention clemons getting hurt and how much its not a big deal.

    lets not forget the falcons O line has had a major bounce back this season after a very disappointing drop off last season.  left tackle sam baker is having a career year and right tackle tyson clabo is solid as usually.  i dont think seattle will be able to create enough pressure up the middle with their interior defensive linemen.  i did mention that they have decent pass rushing D tackles, but they suffered another big blow to their defensive line a few weeks back when they lost their best pass rushing D tackle in jason jones.  jones was a rotational lineman that was built more on rushing the passer and his loss will also make this line very THIN.  also, you have a much more stable interior falcon O line this season, with their only liability being at right guard with peter konz.  so before everyone continues to salivate over this seattle secondary, look at every matchup in this game at every angle first.

    next you will see a rookie QB on the road for the 2nd straight week vs one of the best defensive coordinators in the nfl in mike nolan.  nolan has had 2 weeks to devise a gameplan to do 2 things:  1)confuse the hell out of wilson and 2)contain, not stop, marshawn lynch.  the falcons will really need to play disciplined football here because they are pretty weak on paper with their run D, ranking 21st and giving up 4.8 ypc.  i actually expect lynch to have a productive game at least to begin with.  but, i feel that atlants will take a 10 point lead in this game late in the 2nd qrtr and wilson will have to throw just a little more.  what i like is the fact that the falcon D has experience vs mobile Qb's like wilson, in that they play cam newton twice every year and even played RG3 earleir in the season.  what i really like here is the fact that mike nolan is going to throw different formations at wilson and display different coverages and will really throw this kid off.  did anyone watch the week 2 monday night game vs the broncos?  peyton manning had no idea what he was looking at and it took him 2 1/2 qrts to figure it out.  will rookie wilson figure it out?  we will see.

    i consider the pass offense of seattle and the pass defense of the falcons to be a neutral battle.  the seattle O line is actually a pretty stable unit and they are very strong on their interior O line.  the pass rush of the falcons is nothing to brag about and their pass defense as a whole is very weak on paper.  the seattle receiver really do not concern me here and I just feel the falcons can step up their pass defense when they need to.  i mean think about it, if potent pass offenses like the saints, giants, and lions cannot expose this pass defense and win the game late during this season, do you think the 29th ranked seattle pass offense will?

    lastly, lets just look at what the falcons have accomplished this year.  before this season they were known as 1) a DOME team 2) a team that could not beat the SAINTS 3) a "1 and done" playoff team.  well, when i see a team going 6-2 on the road then i throw the dome team aspect out.  when i see a team that takes down their nemesis in the saints late in the season and build their confidence close to the playoffs, im feeling better.  remember, the saints shattered the falcons confidence last season when they destroyed them right at the end of the season.  remember 2 years ago when the falcons were 13-3 and the #1 seed?  they played a monday night game vs the saints in a game they did not need to win but a game the saints needed to win to get a playoff berth.  the falcons played that game like it was the playoffs because they wanted to get that playoff swagger and feel unbeatable at home.  well, the saints won that game and created what i feel was the demise of the falcons that playoff season with the packers coming in and smashing them.

    the "1 and done" reputation ends for the falcons on sunday
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    first of all, dont let the soft line fool you.  vegas has disrespected the falcons all year and set lines that appeared to be sucker bets all season.  look at week1: -1 @ KC (atl wins 40-24), week 5: -3 @ WASH (atl wins 24-17), week 9: -3 1/2 vs DALL (atl wins 19-13), week 15: -1 vs NYG (atl wins 34-0), and the line that everyone thought was a TRAP?  week 16: -3 1/2 @ DET (atl wins 31-18)  so please, dont be intimidated by biting on a questionable line.

    next, lets talk about the matchup.  this will be strength vs strength of the falcons 5th ranked pass offense vs the seattle 6th ranked pass defense.  but, dont forget that the falcon receivers are the most physical receiving core in the nfl in white, jones, douglas, and gonzales.  the reason the seattle secondary has bullied so many receiving corp's this year is not so much their ability to create a mismatch in speed, but their ability to out physical their foes and basically intimidate the s h # t out of them.  that will not happen vs atlanta.  also, before you talk about how good the seattle secondary is you cannot forget what is needed up front with their their 4 man pass rush coming from their D line.  seattle ranks pretty average in the nfl in terms of sacks registered with 36, but they actually are more built on generating pressure and QB hits, and they did a solid, not spectacular job of it.  they rotate their defensive linemen in all positions and they are pretty balanced in generating QB hits and pressures.  the problem is that they lost their #1 pass rusher chris clemons and this is a huge loss.  this guy is the most underrated pass rusher in the nfl with 11 sacks, 11 QB hits, and 37 QB pressures.  the reason bruce irvin has had such a good rookie season as a pass rusher is because opposing O lines would eventually have to double team clemons midway through games due to his ability to dominate off the edge and  irving would then have a much better opportunity to get to the QB.  now you have irvin having to convert to an almost everydown pass rusher and match him up with bookend red bryant, who is a pretty mediocre pass rusher.  irving is used to being a situational player and im not sure how he will fare when he has to play twice as many snaps as he is accustomed to doing.  i mention irving a lot only because he is the argument most people will make when i mention clemons getting hurt and how much its not a big deal.

    lets not forget the falcons O line has had a major bounce back this season after a very disappointing drop off last season.  left tackle sam baker is having a career year and right tackle tyson clabo is solid as usually.  i dont think seattle will be able to create enough pressure up the middle with their interior defensive linemen.  i did mention that they have decent pass rushing D tackles, but they suffered another big blow to their defensive line a few weeks back when they lost their best pass rushing D tackle in jason jones.  jones was a rotational lineman that was built more on rushing the passer and his loss will also make this line very THIN.  also, you have a much more stable interior falcon O line this season, with their only liability being at right guard with peter konz.  so before everyone continues to salivate over this seattle secondary, look at every matchup in this game at every angle first.

    next you will see a rookie QB on the road for the 2nd straight week vs one of the best defensive coordinators in the nfl in mike nolan.  nolan has had 2 weeks to devise a gameplan to do 2 things:  1)confuse the hell out of wilson and 2)contain, not stop, marshawn lynch.  the falcons will really need to play disciplined football here because they are pretty weak on paper with their run D, ranking 21st and giving up 4.8 ypc.  i actually expect lynch to have a productive game at least to begin with.  but, i feel that atlants will take a 10 point lead in this game late in the 2nd qrtr and wilson will have to throw just a little more.  what i like is the fact that the falcon D has experience vs mobile Qb's like wilson, in that they play cam newton twice every year and even played RG3 earleir in the season.  what i really like here is the fact that mike nolan is going to throw different formations at wilson and display different coverages and will really throw this kid off.  did anyone watch the week 2 monday night game vs the broncos?  peyton manning had no idea what he was looking at and it took him 2 1/2 qrts to figure it out.  will rookie wilson figure it out?  we will see.

    i consider the pass offense of seattle and the pass defense of the falcons to be a neutral battle.  the seattle O line is actually a pretty stable unit and they are very strong on their interior O line.  the pass rush of the falcons is nothing to brag about and their pass defense as a whole is very weak on paper.  the seattle receiver really do not concern me here and I just feel the falcons can step up their pass defense when they need to.  i mean think about it, if potent pass offenses like the saints, giants, and lions cannot expose this pass defense and win the game late during this season, do you think the 29th ranked seattle pass offense will?

    lastly, lets just look at what the falcons have accomplished this year.  before this season they were known as 1) a DOME team 2) a team that could not beat the SAINTS 3) a "1 and done" playoff team.  well, when i see a team going 6-2 on the road then i throw the dome team aspect out.  when i see a team that takes down their nemesis in the saints late in the season and build their confidence close to the playoffs, im feeling better.  remember, the saints shattered the falcons confidence last season when they destroyed them right at the end of the season.  remember 2 years ago when the falcons were 13-3 and the #1 seed?  they played a monday night game vs the saints in a game they did not need to win but a game the saints needed to win to get a playoff berth.  the falcons played that game like it was the playoffs because they wanted to get that playoff swagger and feel unbeatable at home.  well, the saints won that game and created what i feel was the demise of the falcons that playoff season with the packers coming in and smashing them.

    the "1 and done" reputation ends for the falcons on sunday
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    Posted: Jan. 8, 2013 - 4:22 PM ET #2

    great write up ....... also Seattle back to back east coast trips with a early start and no clemons.  huge ! 
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    great write up ....... also Seattle back to back east coast trips with a early start and no clemons.  huge ! 
     
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    Posted: Jan. 8, 2013 - 5:39 PM ET #3

    nice in depth writeup. one of the very few on atlanta in many forums i frequent. gl with your play. i will be on atlanta as i have them in props to get to the SB and to win the SB this year. would be great to see them win in New Orleans, in a city that has no love for them
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    nice in depth writeup. one of the very few on atlanta in many forums i frequent. gl with your play. i will be on atlanta as i have them in props to get to the SB and to win the SB this year. would be great to see them win in New Orleans, in a city that has no love for them
     
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    Posted: Jan. 8, 2013 - 10:24 PM ET #4

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    good luck with your plays!  
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    Posted: Jan. 8, 2013 - 11:17 PM ET #5

    here's some more food for thought:

    Over the past five seasons, the Seahawks have won once when faced with a 1 p.m. ET start. And don't discount this: By the time the game starts, they will have traveled more than 8,000 miles in little more than a week.
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    here's some more food for thought:

    Over the past five seasons, the Seahawks have won once when faced with a 1 p.m. ET start. And don't discount this: By the time the game starts, they will have traveled more than 8,000 miles in little more than a week.
     
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    Posted: Jan. 8, 2013 - 11:43 PM ET #6

    Public on ATL while line moves down?
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    Posted: Jan. 9, 2013 - 1:18 AM ET #7

    Very informative writeup.  Love the Falcons here.  BOL.

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    Very informative writeup.  Love the Falcons here.  BOL.

     
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    Posted: Jan. 9, 2013 - 1:26 AM ET #8

    I watched that second week game vs the Broncos. I thought it was brilliant. I was wondering why they never really showed those types of motions throughout the year though. Might have kept them undefeated if they did cuz there were a lot dumber QBs on their schedule after Manning. I noticed they did keep guys off guard but not as much as that Broncos game.
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    I watched that second week game vs the Broncos. I thought it was brilliant. I was wondering why they never really showed those types of motions throughout the year though. Might have kept them undefeated if they did cuz there were a lot dumber QBs on their schedule after Manning. I noticed they did keep guys off guard but not as much as that Broncos game.
     
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    Posted: Jan. 9, 2013 - 1:50 AM ET #9

    Not sure where this ATL-1 line exists, but every book in Vegas, and the state of Nevada as a whole, has this game at ATL-2.5. 

    The sharp money has yet to hit this game as they are giving ATL backers, and all the other squares out there, the chance to drive the line up to SEA+3. The books, however, are keen to this and it might not reach their number—which is fine. 

    Seattle will miss the presence of Chris Clemons up front, but their D is built from the back to the front. They have had an average pass rush all year and have relied on a strong secondary to dominate opponents. Fortunately Atlanta's running game is average at best. 

    This is a bad matchup for Atlanta as their lackluster rush defense will have no answer for Marshawn Lynch, nor their fleet of foot QB Russell Wilson. The Hawks pass defense is well suited for physical receivers such as Atlanta's corps and they will still be able to put enough pressure on Matt Ryan to force him into bad decisions. 

    Throw into the mix Matt Ryan's lack of ability to win a playoff game and you come to one conclusion: take the Hawks and the points.
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    Not sure where this ATL-1 line exists, but every book in Vegas, and the state of Nevada as a whole, has this game at ATL-2.5. 

    The sharp money has yet to hit this game as they are giving ATL backers, and all the other squares out there, the chance to drive the line up to SEA+3. The books, however, are keen to this and it might not reach their number—which is fine. 

    Seattle will miss the presence of Chris Clemons up front, but their D is built from the back to the front. They have had an average pass rush all year and have relied on a strong secondary to dominate opponents. Fortunately Atlanta's running game is average at best. 

    This is a bad matchup for Atlanta as their lackluster rush defense will have no answer for Marshawn Lynch, nor their fleet of foot QB Russell Wilson. The Hawks pass defense is well suited for physical receivers such as Atlanta's corps and they will still be able to put enough pressure on Matt Ryan to force him into bad decisions. 

    Throw into the mix Matt Ryan's lack of ability to win a playoff game and you come to one conclusion: take the Hawks and the points.
     
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    seattle backers:  the team is just not the same on the road.  they were 3-5 on the road this regular season and played 1 pass offense as good as this falcons pass offense on the road, that being the lions.  you know what happened in that game?  stafford haD 352 yards passing, 3TDS/ 1 INT, was sacked twice, and they LOST!  Their only notable road win was against the bears.  but, that game came the exact week after the bears were ravished with injuries after playing the vikings. 

    sure, the seattle pass defense has played elite pass offenses like the pats and packers, but that was at HOME!

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    seattle backers:  the team is just not the same on the road.  they were 3-5 on the road this regular season and played 1 pass offense as good as this falcons pass offense on the road, that being the lions.  you know what happened in that game?  stafford haD 352 yards passing, 3TDS/ 1 INT, was sacked twice, and they LOST!  Their only notable road win was against the bears.  but, that game came the exact week after the bears were ravished with injuries after playing the vikings. 

    sure, the seattle pass defense has played elite pass offenses like the pats and packers, but that was at HOME!

     
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    Hahaahaaaa you will see that this is not the same Seahawks of yesteryear.......throw out that cant win on the road BS......we have a QB that the team believes in and plays at a different level! We run the table on the road.......good luck with your play though im on Seattle ML!
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    Hahaahaaaa you will see that this is not the same Seahawks of yesteryear.......throw out that cant win on the road BS......we have a QB that the team believes in and plays at a different level! We run the table on the road.......good luck with your play though im on Seattle ML!
     
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    Posted: Jan. 9, 2013 - 11:18 AM ET #13

    .....i like em too...but im skeptical bettin a team that isnt proven in the playoff!!!!!
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    .....i like em too...but im skeptical bettin a team that isnt proven in the playoff!!!!!
     
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    this isnt a "soft line" as you say it is. another difference is that seattles defense is much better than kc, dallas, nyg, detroit, and wash..even on their worst days. ok and yes..the lost of chris clemons is notable..but the loss of jason jones is not. they havent missed a beat after losing jason jones. chris clemons is not the heart and soul of that defense either...seattle can still generate a lot of pass rush and pressure on matt ryan and you dont need that great of a run defense to stop michael turner. 

    "the reason the seattle secondary has bullied so many receiving corp's this year is not so much their ability to create a mismatch in speed, but their ability to out physical their foes and basically intimidate the s h # t out of them."

    INTIMIDATE THE garbage OUT OF THEM? dude this is the nfl...nobody is intimidated by nothing...this here is the dumbest thing ever

    seattle cant win on the road?? gimme a break.

    atl hasnt even won a playoff game yet

    always go with the hottest team in the playoffs

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    this isnt a "soft line" as you say it is. another difference is that seattles defense is much better than kc, dallas, nyg, detroit, and wash..even on their worst days. ok and yes..the lost of chris clemons is notable..but the loss of jason jones is not. they havent missed a beat after losing jason jones. chris clemons is not the heart and soul of that defense either...seattle can still generate a lot of pass rush and pressure on matt ryan and you dont need that great of a run defense to stop michael turner. 

    "the reason the seattle secondary has bullied so many receiving corp's this year is not so much their ability to create a mismatch in speed, but their ability to out physical their foes and basically intimidate the s h # t out of them."

    INTIMIDATE THE garbage OUT OF THEM? dude this is the nfl...nobody is intimidated by nothing...this here is the dumbest thing ever

    seattle cant win on the road?? gimme a break.

    atl hasnt even won a playoff game yet

    always go with the hottest team in the playoffs

     
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    Posted: Jan. 9, 2013 - 12:08 PM ET #15

    Quote Originally Posted by NOboy:

    here's some more food for thought:

    Over the past five seasons, the Seahawks have won once when faced with a 1 p.m. ET start. And don't discount this: By the time the game starts, they will have traveled more than 8,000 miles in little more than a week.

    this is a completely different team from at least 2 years ago. please tell me this is not how u cap games. so retarded. if it is, then bet 30 units everytime...and come back and tell me how it went.

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    here's some more food for thought:

    Over the past five seasons, the Seahawks have won once when faced with a 1 p.m. ET start. And don't discount this: By the time the game starts, they will have traveled more than 8,000 miles in little more than a week.

    this is a completely different team from at least 2 years ago. please tell me this is not how u cap games. so retarded. if it is, then bet 30 units everytime...and come back and tell me how it went.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by kahuna57:

    I watched that second week game vs the Broncos. I thought it was brilliant. I was wondering why they never really showed those types of motions throughout the year though. Might have kept them undefeated if they did cuz there were a lot dumber QBs on their schedule after Manning. I noticed they did keep guys off guard but not as much as that Broncos game.

    you're giving way too much credit to atl on this one....and this was WEEK 2!!!! peyton manning was obviously rusty then, look where broncos are at now? its not how u start, its how u finish

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    Quote Originally Posted by kahuna57:

    I watched that second week game vs the Broncos. I thought it was brilliant. I was wondering why they never really showed those types of motions throughout the year though. Might have kept them undefeated if they did cuz there were a lot dumber QBs on their schedule after Manning. I noticed they did keep guys off guard but not as much as that Broncos game.

    you're giving way too much credit to atl on this one....and this was WEEK 2!!!! peyton manning was obviously rusty then, look where broncos are at now? its not how u start, its how u finish

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by usikbasterd:

    this is a completely different team from at least 2 years ago. please tell me this is not how u cap games. so retarded. if it is, then bet 30 units everytime...and come back and tell me how it went.


    im sorry sir. i obviously said food for thought and it should be mentioned. youre ignorant if you think that traveling 8000 miles in under 5 days does not affect your body regardless if youre a professional athlete after a hardfought game that you had to recover from a 14 pt deficit
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    this is a completely different team from at least 2 years ago. please tell me this is not how u cap games. so retarded. if it is, then bet 30 units everytime...and come back and tell me how it went.


    im sorry sir. i obviously said food for thought and it should be mentioned. youre ignorant if you think that traveling 8000 miles in under 5 days does not affect your body regardless if youre a professional athlete after a hardfought game that you had to recover from a 14 pt deficit
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by evaneagan:

    Not sure where this ATL-1 line exists, but every book in Vegas, and the state of Nevada as a whole, has this game at ATL-2.5. 

    The sharp money has yet to hit this game as they are giving ATL backers, and all the other squares out there, the chance to drive the line up to SEA+3. The books, however, are keen to this and it might not reach their number—which is fine. 

    Seattle will miss the presence of Chris Clemons up front, but their D is built from the back to the front. They have had an average pass rush all year and have relied on a strong secondary to dominate opponents. Fortunately Atlanta's running game is average at best. 

    This is a bad matchup for Atlanta as their lackluster rush defense will have no answer for Marshawn Lynch, nor their fleet of foot QB Russell Wilson. The Hawks pass defense is well suited for physical receivers such as Atlanta's corps and they will still be able to put enough pressure on Matt Ryan to force him into bad decisions. 

    Throw into the mix Matt Ryan's lack of ability to win a playoff game and you come to one conclusion: take the Hawks and the points.

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    Quote Originally Posted by evaneagan:

    Not sure where this ATL-1 line exists, but every book in Vegas, and the state of Nevada as a whole, has this game at ATL-2.5. 

    The sharp money has yet to hit this game as they are giving ATL backers, and all the other squares out there, the chance to drive the line up to SEA+3. The books, however, are keen to this and it might not reach their number—which is fine. 

    Seattle will miss the presence of Chris Clemons up front, but their D is built from the back to the front. They have had an average pass rush all year and have relied on a strong secondary to dominate opponents. Fortunately Atlanta's running game is average at best. 

    This is a bad matchup for Atlanta as their lackluster rush defense will have no answer for Marshawn Lynch, nor their fleet of foot QB Russell Wilson. The Hawks pass defense is well suited for physical receivers such as Atlanta's corps and they will still be able to put enough pressure on Matt Ryan to force him into bad decisions. 

    Throw into the mix Matt Ryan's lack of ability to win a playoff game and you come to one conclusion: take the Hawks and the points.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by NOboy:


    im sorry sir. i obviously said food for thought and it should be mentioned. youre ignorant if you think that traveling 8000 miles in under 5 days does not affect your body regardless if youre a professional athlete after a hardfought game that you had to recover from a 14 pt deficit

    yes, sir. its definately a factor but is it gonna be your deciding factor on who u're going to bet on? and so what, you think cuz seattle was down 14pts in the 1ST QUARTER...that they're most likely gonna lose their next game...gimme a break!!!!

    how bout in week 5 seattle came to carolina for a 1pm game and they covered and won after a HARD fought road game against a divisional opponent in week 4...similar situation here, no? or week 10 denver came to carolina and crushed them at a 1pm game too, same situation? just pointing out examples of teams coming from west coast to play east coast team on a 1pm game and can still win

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    im sorry sir. i obviously said food for thought and it should be mentioned. youre ignorant if you think that traveling 8000 miles in under 5 days does not affect your body regardless if youre a professional athlete after a hardfought game that you had to recover from a 14 pt deficit

    yes, sir. its definately a factor but is it gonna be your deciding factor on who u're going to bet on? and so what, you think cuz seattle was down 14pts in the 1ST QUARTER...that they're most likely gonna lose their next game...gimme a break!!!!

    how bout in week 5 seattle came to carolina for a 1pm game and they covered and won after a HARD fought road game against a divisional opponent in week 4...similar situation here, no? or week 10 denver came to carolina and crushed them at a 1pm game too, same situation? just pointing out examples of teams coming from west coast to play east coast team on a 1pm game and can still win

     
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    i just feel like that statement is over valued sometimes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by usikbasterd:

    yes, sir. its definately a factor but is it gonna be your deciding factor on who u're going to bet on? and so what, you think cuz seattle was down 14pts in the 1ST QUARTER...that they're most likely gonna lose their next game...gimme a break!!!!

    how bout in week 5 seattle came to carolina for a 1pm game and they covered and won after a HARD fought road game against a divisional opponent in week 4...similar situation here, no? or week 10 denver came to carolina and crushed them at a 1pm game too, same situation? just pointing out examples of teams coming from west coast to play east coast team on a 1pm game and can still win

    neither situation is the same. so which one of those were back 2 back on the east coast? traveling to the EC, back to the west, then back to the east. so, no, not the same situation. 

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    yes, sir. its definately a factor but is it gonna be your deciding factor on who u're going to bet on? and so what, you think cuz seattle was down 14pts in the 1ST QUARTER...that they're most likely gonna lose their next game...gimme a break!!!!

    how bout in week 5 seattle came to carolina for a 1pm game and they covered and won after a HARD fought road game against a divisional opponent in week 4...similar situation here, no? or week 10 denver came to carolina and crushed them at a 1pm game too, same situation? just pointing out examples of teams coming from west coast to play east coast team on a 1pm game and can still win

    neither situation is the same. so which one of those were back 2 back on the east coast? traveling to the EC, back to the west, then back to the east. so, no, not the same situation. 

     
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    Posted: Jan. 9, 2013 - 12:22 PM ET #22

    and no, denver is not on the westcoast. its in the mountains
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    Posted: Jan. 9, 2013 - 12:31 PM ET #23

    Atlanta has a very good home record over the past serveal season? No?

    Seattle has a very poor road record over the last several season? No?

    I think the teams are quite equal. Atlana really has something to prove here.

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    Atlanta has a very good home record over the past serveal season? No?

    Seattle has a very poor road record over the last several season? No?

    I think the teams are quite equal. Atlana really has something to prove here.

     
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    Nice writeup sammy

    This is a tough matchup for SEA.    Falcons have beaten Hawks in Seattle, in each of the last 2 seasons.    Falcons dominated TOP in both games, 75 mins to 45 mins (total).    In the last meeting, Falcons jumped out to a 20 pt lead, and hung on for the win.   QB T Jackson had respectable stats, 300+ yds passing and a 96.2 rating.   Still, Hawks lost @ home (again) to a team that has big, talented receivers that match up well vs Hawks' excellent secondary..

    Now, Seattle has to travel east for the 2nd week in a row, for a 10am (Pacific time) start.   Hawks have had a great season, and a promising future.   But at this point, the Falcons are still the better team, at home, with a rest advantage.

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    Nice writeup sammy

    This is a tough matchup for SEA.    Falcons have beaten Hawks in Seattle, in each of the last 2 seasons.    Falcons dominated TOP in both games, 75 mins to 45 mins (total).    In the last meeting, Falcons jumped out to a 20 pt lead, and hung on for the win.   QB T Jackson had respectable stats, 300+ yds passing and a 96.2 rating.   Still, Hawks lost @ home (again) to a team that has big, talented receivers that match up well vs Hawks' excellent secondary..

    Now, Seattle has to travel east for the 2nd week in a row, for a 10am (Pacific time) start.   Hawks have had a great season, and a promising future.   But at this point, the Falcons are still the better team, at home, with a rest advantage.

    SEA 24
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    I would suggest very strongly that you study the Atlanta-Carolina games of this season before betting the Falcons.
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