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    GIANTS @ REDSKINS: It's rare that I say I'm not worried about a cover at all but...I'm not worried.

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    Posted: Jan. 1, 2017 - 9:20 AM ET #51

    @Scal- Two points-
    1) BOL today. I think we all look for an edge and by all accounts, you may have discovered it in this game. It's called gambling right?!?
    2- I'm relatively new to the site, it's amazing that people come to a thread you created to discredit you. Why not just create their own thread, isn't this about a community of "cappers" trying to help each other? Blows my mind.

    Look forward to talking on here with you in the future.
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    @Scal- Two points-
    1) BOL today. I think we all look for an edge and by all accounts, you may have discovered it in this game. It's called gambling right?!?
    2- I'm relatively new to the site, it's amazing that people come to a thread you created to discredit you. Why not just create their own thread, isn't this about a community of "cappers" trying to help each other? Blows my mind.

    Look forward to talking on here with you in the future.
     
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    Posted: Jan. 1, 2017 - 9:30 AM ET #52

    Scal, always love the Write-ups bro but I've been following all year and the only NFL games you have picked have involved NYG, NYJ, and BUFF. I gotta imagine focusing your capping on 3 teams is not as effective a strategy as focusing on the whole league. Either way GL thought I don't really mean it and hope you move to 0-3 picking against my boys in blue :)
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    Scal, always love the Write-ups bro but I've been following all year and the only NFL games you have picked have involved NYG, NYJ, and BUFF. I gotta imagine focusing your capping on 3 teams is not as effective a strategy as focusing on the whole league. Either way GL thought I don't really mean it and hope you move to 0-3 picking against my boys in blue :)
     
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    Posted: Jan. 1, 2017 - 9:35 AM ET #53

    Quote Originally Posted by Cdubbs88:

    Scal, always love the Write-ups bro but I've been following all year and the only NFL games you have picked have involved NYG, NYJ, and BUFF. I gotta imagine focusing your capping on 3 teams is not as effective a strategy as focusing on the whole league. Either way GL thought I don't really mean it and hope you move to 0-3 picking against my boys in blue :)

    I actually think it's the opposite...focusing on one or a couple of teams you know is the way to better capping. I think nearly everyone (including me) cap league-wide to our detriment.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cdubbs88:

    Scal, always love the Write-ups bro but I've been following all year and the only NFL games you have picked have involved NYG, NYJ, and BUFF. I gotta imagine focusing your capping on 3 teams is not as effective a strategy as focusing on the whole league. Either way GL thought I don't really mean it and hope you move to 0-3 picking against my boys in blue :)

    I actually think it's the opposite...focusing on one or a couple of teams you know is the way to better capping. I think nearly everyone (including me) cap league-wide to our detriment.
     
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    Posted: Jan. 1, 2017 - 10:01 AM ET #54

    I want to roll today, lil scared the giants with the 10 day layoff will want to play before next week coming off a loss, but then I started thinking how they had those layoffs and beat the pats in 2 super bowls, granted that was a different head coach but with all that said I like rolling with scal so ill probably be on the redskins with Baltimore, I see those guys trying to send steve smith out with a win
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    I want to roll today, lil scared the giants with the 10 day layoff will want to play before next week coming off a loss, but then I started thinking how they had those layoffs and beat the pats in 2 super bowls, granted that was a different head coach but with all that said I like rolling with scal so ill probably be on the redskins with Baltimore, I see those guys trying to send steve smith out with a win
     
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    Posted: Jan. 1, 2017 - 10:06 AM ET #55

    Quote Originally Posted by wordofmouth:

    @Scal- Two points-
    1) BOL today. I think we all look for an edge and by all accounts, you may have discovered it in this game. It's called gambling right?!?
    2- I'm relatively new to the site, it's amazing that people come to a threa 
    d you created to discredit you. Why not just create their own thread, isn't this about a community of "cappers" trying to help each other? Blows my mind.
    Look forward to talking on here with you in the future
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    This is what they do word. They don't create their own thread for one very simple reason: NO ONE WILL READ THEM.

    So they come here for attention, and then rag on me for...."looking for attention!"

    I know you know this already because you need only read one or two of my threads to see it all play out every pick. And god forbid if the pick loses. Then you are Hitler at a Bar Mitzvah.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wordofmouth:

    @Scal- Two points-
    1) BOL today. I think we all look for an edge and by all accounts, you may have discovered it in this game. It's called gambling right?!?
    2- I'm relatively new to the site, it's amazing that people come to a threa 
    d you created to discredit you. Why not just create their own thread, isn't this about a community of "cappers" trying to help each other? Blows my mind.
    Look forward to talking on here with you in the future
    .


    This is what they do word. They don't create their own thread for one very simple reason: NO ONE WILL READ THEM.

    So they come here for attention, and then rag on me for...."looking for attention!"

    I know you know this already because you need only read one or two of my threads to see it all play out every pick. And god forbid if the pick loses. Then you are Hitler at a Bar Mitzvah.

     
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    Posted: Jan. 1, 2017 - 10:10 AM ET #56

    Line is down to 7 -110 so you can get the same game with no hook if you are interested.

    Very surprised the line moved towards the Giants but I'm not here to post a pick to pay the books $30 for every $100 for the privilege (-130 at -7 when I posted) for the privilege of pushing a bet. 

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    Line is down to 7 -110 so you can get the same game with no hook if you are interested.

    Very surprised the line moved towards the Giants but I'm not here to post a pick to pay the books $30 for every $100 for the privilege (-130 at -7 when I posted) for the privilege of pushing a bet. 

     
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    Posted: Jan. 1, 2017 - 10:13 AM ET #57

    Scal you're a funny dude with a helluva opinion. 
    Being from NY I love the angle. 
    I laid off Nunes but hope that gets you back on track. 
    Happy New Year and I'll be tailing you most every pick. 
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    Scal you're a funny dude with a helluva opinion. 
    Being from NY I love the angle. 
    I laid off Nunes but hope that gets you back on track. 
    Happy New Year and I'll be tailing you most every pick. 
     
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    Posted: Jan. 1, 2017 - 10:14 AM ET #58

    Quote Originally Posted by garbagetime:


    I actually think it's the opposite...focusing on one or a couple of teams you know is the way to better capping. I think nearly everyone (including me) cap league-wide to our detriment.


    Exactly. And make some of those select teams anything BUT the teams you've followed all your life to eliminate bias completely!

    Dubs, McAdoo is certainly a unique NYC character. He goes out of his way to defy the media and prove them wrong, as he did defending ODB's histrionics and gesticulations with a kicking net. It will come back to bite him.

    If the Skins do anything less than play pedal to the medal here with a win and your in spot, they don't belong in the league. And that includes stopping starters playing only 3 quarters max, which is what I hoping will happen (which gives a full quarters against back-ups).

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    Quote Originally Posted by garbagetime:


    I actually think it's the opposite...focusing on one or a couple of teams you know is the way to better capping. I think nearly everyone (including me) cap league-wide to our detriment.


    Exactly. And make some of those select teams anything BUT the teams you've followed all your life to eliminate bias completely!

    Dubs, McAdoo is certainly a unique NYC character. He goes out of his way to defy the media and prove them wrong, as he did defending ODB's histrionics and gesticulations with a kicking net. It will come back to bite him.

    If the Skins do anything less than play pedal to the medal here with a win and your in spot, they don't belong in the league. And that includes stopping starters playing only 3 quarters max, which is what I hoping will happen (which gives a full quarters against back-ups).

     
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    Posted: Jan. 1, 2017 - 10:16 AM ET #59

    Quote Originally Posted by sacker17:

    Scal you're a funny dude with a helluva opinion. 
    Being from NY I love the angle. 
    I laid off Nunes but hope that gets you back on track. 
    Happy New Year and I'll be tailing you most every pick. 

    McAdoo. What can you say. He's a head case. So far he's a winning head case but he should remember that Bowles also won 10 with his first year with the Jets. And then 10 games later he's on the hot seat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sacker17:

    Scal you're a funny dude with a helluva opinion. 
    Being from NY I love the angle. 
    I laid off Nunes but hope that gets you back on track. 
    Happy New Year and I'll be tailing you most every pick. 

    McAdoo. What can you say. He's a head case. So far he's a winning head case but he should remember that Bowles also won 10 with his first year with the Jets. And then 10 games later he's on the hot seat.

     
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    Posted: Jan. 1, 2017 - 10:17 AM ET #60

    Quote Originally Posted by chaloots:

     I love the "This is a different Skins team" guess he didn't see the Monday night game debacle at home vs Carolina in what was just about a must win game.


    They are a different Skins team: ON OFFENSE. Only 5 times has an offense been this productive since World War II.

    That's in the OP. Try reading it sometime (and/or really attempting to comprehend it).

    And OFFENSE is what you look for to cover big numbers. Which this is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chaloots:

     I love the "This is a different Skins team" guess he didn't see the Monday night game debacle at home vs Carolina in what was just about a must win game.


    They are a different Skins team: ON OFFENSE. Only 5 times has an offense been this productive since World War II.

    That's in the OP. Try reading it sometime (and/or really attempting to comprehend it).

    And OFFENSE is what you look for to cover big numbers. Which this is.

     
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    Posted: Jan. 1, 2017 - 10:52 AM ET #61

    I'd just like to add the following:

    The injury angle is unique in capping. As is the "Players Sitting" angle, which is what we have here.

    The results are typically incongruent with our expectations because the spread makes up for it.

    Case in point:

    The Rockets last night were 11.5 point favorites over the Knicks.

    Now the Rockets are one of the great run and gun teams of this year, perhaps only trailing the Warriors in terms of desired offensive prowess.

    Score in 7 seconds or less. That is their mantra. That is what you want when laying 11.5.

    The Knicks are on a road trip and struggling. Come in with a 3 game losing streak.

    Porzingis (their new star), Lee, and O'Quinn were all rested last night.

    We'd think, if quickly, the Rockets should blow them out. And for some of the game they were.  

    Then Carmelo went down in-game early with an inury.

    So now you have Porzingis, Anthony (easiliy their two best), Lee (an adequate scorer) and O'Quinn all on the bench not to come off.

    The result? Knicks cover 122-129.

    Now the NBA is a different animal than the NFL. When you sit a star, teams can take the ball in their hands DIRECTLY and make up for the absence. That doesn't happen in football. So absences like losing a star QB matter more than losing Lebron in the NBA.

    Still, what wasn't on the side of the Rockets because this is merely a game of 82 in December, that is on the side of the Skins, is that this absolutely is like MLB's one game playoff. Except the Giants, who are competing in the game, CARE to improve on their performance against the Eagles, but can't really say they NEED to win this game.

    And it is this second layer that we bank on because the first layer or players sitting out/benched can be costly. And I don't think 7.5 (now 7 if you want it) is sufficient to compensate for this second layer of a play-in game when combined with the first layer of how many quarters (hopefully max 3) that the starters will be playing.

    Repeats what I said in the OP but more concisely.

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    I'd just like to add the following:

    The injury angle is unique in capping. As is the "Players Sitting" angle, which is what we have here.

    The results are typically incongruent with our expectations because the spread makes up for it.

    Case in point:

    The Rockets last night were 11.5 point favorites over the Knicks.

    Now the Rockets are one of the great run and gun teams of this year, perhaps only trailing the Warriors in terms of desired offensive prowess.

    Score in 7 seconds or less. That is their mantra. That is what you want when laying 11.5.

    The Knicks are on a road trip and struggling. Come in with a 3 game losing streak.

    Porzingis (their new star), Lee, and O'Quinn were all rested last night.

    We'd think, if quickly, the Rockets should blow them out. And for some of the game they were.  

    Then Carmelo went down in-game early with an inury.

    So now you have Porzingis, Anthony (easiliy their two best), Lee (an adequate scorer) and O'Quinn all on the bench not to come off.

    The result? Knicks cover 122-129.

    Now the NBA is a different animal than the NFL. When you sit a star, teams can take the ball in their hands DIRECTLY and make up for the absence. That doesn't happen in football. So absences like losing a star QB matter more than losing Lebron in the NBA.

    Still, what wasn't on the side of the Rockets because this is merely a game of 82 in December, that is on the side of the Skins, is that this absolutely is like MLB's one game playoff. Except the Giants, who are competing in the game, CARE to improve on their performance against the Eagles, but can't really say they NEED to win this game.

    And it is this second layer that we bank on because the first layer or players sitting out/benched can be costly. And I don't think 7.5 (now 7 if you want it) is sufficient to compensate for this second layer of a play-in game when combined with the first layer of how many quarters (hopefully max 3) that the starters will be playing.

    Repeats what I said in the OP but more concisely.

     
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    Posted: Jan. 1, 2017 - 11:09 AM ET #62

    I just read the Covers preview for this game and it ends with their game prediction;

    PREDICTION: Giants 20, Redskins 17

    These guys follow sports right?
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    I just read the Covers preview for this game and it ends with their game prediction;

    PREDICTION: Giants 20, Redskins 17

    These guys follow sports right?
     
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    Posted: Jan. 1, 2017 - 11:27 AM ET #63

    I only play 2 bet today. WAS & GB.. been a fan of yours for awhile now. GL today SCAL.. 
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    I only play 2 bet today. WAS & GB.. been a fan of yours for awhile now. GL today SCAL.. 
     
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    Posted: Jan. 1, 2017 - 11:35 AM ET #64

    Quote Originally Posted by Hugh_Jorgan:


    Agreed 


    Then get the pick and leave the thread.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hugh_Jorgan:


    Agreed 


    Then get the pick and leave the thread.
     
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    Posted: Jan. 1, 2017 - 11:45 AM ET #65

    Quote Originally Posted by scalabrine:

    Line is down to 7 -110 so you can get the same game with no hook if you are interested.

    Very surprised the line moved towards the Giants but I'm not here to post a pick to pay the books $30 for every $100 for the privilege (-130 at -7 when I posted) for the privilege of pushing a bet. 


    When it got to -7 +100, I doubled my stake (I had -7.5, -105). But it's back up to 7.5 now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by scalabrine:

    Line is down to 7 -110 so you can get the same game with no hook if you are interested.

    Very surprised the line moved towards the Giants but I'm not here to post a pick to pay the books $30 for every $100 for the privilege (-130 at -7 when I posted) for the privilege of pushing a bet. 


    When it got to -7 +100, I doubled my stake (I had -7.5, -105). But it's back up to 7.5 now.
     
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    Posted: Jan. 1, 2017 - 12:17 PM ET #66

    Thank you Scal. I have zero losses this year so far. Here's to a good year and Redskin cover.


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    Thank you Scal. I have zero losses this year so far. Here's to a good year and Redskin cover.


     
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    Posted: Jan. 1, 2017 - 12:23 PM ET #67

    Quote Originally Posted by scalabrine:

    Line is down to 7 -110 so you can get the same game with no hook if you are interested.Very surprised the line moved towards the Giants but I'm not here to post a pick to pay the books $30 for every $100 for the privilege (-130 at -7 when I posted) for the privilege of pushing a bet.

    Curious what you attribute this to. Line was as high as 8 in a few places, now 7. Is it as simple as late money coming in on Giants? Maybe more important is that sharp or square money?
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    Quote Originally Posted by scalabrine:

    Line is down to 7 -110 so you can get the same game with no hook if you are interested.Very surprised the line moved towards the Giants but I'm not here to post a pick to pay the books $30 for every $100 for the privilege (-130 at -7 when I posted) for the privilege of pushing a bet.

    Curious what you attribute this to. Line was as high as 8 in a few places, now 7. Is it as simple as late money coming in on Giants? Maybe more important is that sharp or square money?
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by tonyrome:


    Curious what you attribute this to. Line was as high as 8 in a few places, now 7. Is it as simple as late money coming in on Giants? Maybe more important is that sharp or square money?

    Giants coach "Says" he will play starters all game.  

    i say if the giants are down early they all sit.  
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    Quote Originally Posted by tonyrome:


    Curious what you attribute this to. Line was as high as 8 in a few places, now 7. Is it as simple as late money coming in on Giants? Maybe more important is that sharp or square money?

    Giants coach "Says" he will play starters all game.  

    i say if the giants are down early they all sit.  
     
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    Posted: Jan. 1, 2017 - 12:30 PM ET #69

    WOW.


    Browns are down to +3 which essentially is a push or win situation for the Steelers.

    Can't say I'm not tempted here on Pitt. Here are the stats:

    Browns 6-30 vs. Steelers since 1999

    Browns haven't won at Heinz field since 11/2003.

    Browns will play themselves out of a guaranteed #1 pick if they win.

    Browns coming off a highly emotional win and have the proverbial winless season monkey off their back.

    Wow. So tempting to back Pitt here even with the backups....

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    WOW.


    Browns are down to +3 which essentially is a push or win situation for the Steelers.

    Can't say I'm not tempted here on Pitt. Here are the stats:

    Browns 6-30 vs. Steelers since 1999

    Browns haven't won at Heinz field since 11/2003.

    Browns will play themselves out of a guaranteed #1 pick if they win.

    Browns coming off a highly emotional win and have the proverbial winless season monkey off their back.

    Wow. So tempting to back Pitt here even with the backups....

     
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    Posted: Jan. 1, 2017 - 12:32 PM ET #70

    Quote Originally Posted by tonyrome:


    Curious what you attribute this to. Line was as high as 8 in a few places, now 7. Is it as simple as late money coming in on Giants? Maybe more important is that sharp or square money?


    I have a lot of chirping in the NY media that the GIANTS are saying THEY will play pedal to the metal. I guess these quotes coming out, all obvious lip service, is moving the line. Or else something I don't know is. Whatever it is, it is strange.


    Ugly 

    Eprince- But that is not a COVER EXPERT pick. You have to PAY for that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tonyrome:


    Curious what you attribute this to. Line was as high as 8 in a few places, now 7. Is it as simple as late money coming in on Giants? Maybe more important is that sharp or square money?


    I have a lot of chirping in the NY media that the GIANTS are saying THEY will play pedal to the metal. I guess these quotes coming out, all obvious lip service, is moving the line. Or else something I don't know is. Whatever it is, it is strange.


    Ugly 

    Eprince- But that is not a COVER EXPERT pick. You have to PAY for that.

     
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    Posted: Jan. 1, 2017 - 12:34 PM ET #71

    Can't believe all this late money on Cleveland. The team CAN'T SCORE and it took a miracle two misses for them to get the win last week. This is what the public has done all year with the Browns. Backing them now even when they have a win!
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    Can't believe all this late money on Cleveland. The team CAN'T SCORE and it took a miracle two misses for them to get the win last week. This is what the public has done all year with the Browns. Backing them now even when they have a win!
     
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    Posted: Jan. 1, 2017 - 12:37 PM ET #72

    Pitt isnt playing anyone. They are sitting all their dynamic starters. The browns arent that good at all. Personally I am getting +6 with Clev via a local so to me that and the under are the plays
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    Pitt isnt playing anyone. They are sitting all their dynamic starters. The browns arent that good at all. Personally I am getting +6 with Clev via a local so to me that and the under are the plays
     
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    Posted: Jan. 1, 2017 - 12:45 PM ET #73

    I just don't see the GMEN going all out for more than a half. Skins should cover easy. Good luck
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    I just don't see the GMEN going all out for more than a half. Skins should cover easy. Good luck
     
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    Posted: Jan. 1, 2017 - 12:50 PM ET #74

    Quote Originally Posted by scalabrine:


    I have a lot of chirping in the NY media that the GIANTS are saying THEY will play pedal to the metal. I guess these quotes coming out, all obvious lip service, is moving the line. Or else something I don't know is. Whatever it is, it is strange.


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    Eprince- But that is not a COVER EXPERT pick. You have to PAY for that.


    Well I have been a Giants fan since birth and my opinion is (which could be skewed in many ways) is that even if we needed this game we would probably lose it (not by 7).
    So here we are not needing it, and we have to rest a few players that are hurting and in need of rest, but my opinion, yes, it is lip service, we may play our starters to the half or early third. Basically we should play this like a third pre-season game.
    I do believe Skins cover 7. But 10+ seems more realistic.
    GL

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    Quote Originally Posted by scalabrine:


    I have a lot of chirping in the NY media that the GIANTS are saying THEY will play pedal to the metal. I guess these quotes coming out, all obvious lip service, is moving the line. Or else something I don't know is. Whatever it is, it is strange.


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    Eprince- But that is not a COVER EXPERT pick. You have to PAY for that.


    Well I have been a Giants fan since birth and my opinion is (which could be skewed in many ways) is that even if we needed this game we would probably lose it (not by 7).
    So here we are not needing it, and we have to rest a few players that are hurting and in need of rest, but my opinion, yes, it is lip service, we may play our starters to the half or early third. Basically we should play this like a third pre-season game.
    I do believe Skins cover 7. But 10+ seems more realistic.
    GL

     
     
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    Posted: Jan. 1, 2017 - 12:53 PM ET #75

    Cousins just needs to have an average game.
    As long as he doesn't lose it for them, they should cover.

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    Cousins just needs to have an average game.
    As long as he doesn't lose it for them, they should cover.

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