Really? People agree with my side and you instantly attack them?
Shows how much of a child you really are.
Really? People agree with my side and you instantly attack them?
Shows how much of a child you really are.
Really? People agree with my side and you instantly attack them?
Shows how much of a child you really are.
You people are completly killing this wonderful thread.
Tim Tebow is on his way to being a great QB. He might make it, he might not (see Ryan Leaf)
I've watched every snap of every Broncos game the last 6 weeks and can tell Tim Tebow is DEFINITELY improving.
If he keeps getting better, which I think he will, the Tebow haters will disapeer. Nothing is certain, but Fade Tim Tebow at your own risk
Words of wisdom.
We are going back and fourth giving our OPINION and how we've observed games that Tebow has played and how we THINK he will play the rest of his career.
You people are completly killing this wonderful thread.
Tim Tebow is on his way to being a great QB. He might make it, he might not (see Ryan Leaf)
I've watched every snap of every Broncos game the last 6 weeks and can tell Tim Tebow is DEFINITELY improving.
If he keeps getting better, which I think he will, the Tebow haters will disapeer. Nothing is certain, but Fade Tim Tebow at your own risk
Words of wisdom.
We are going back and fourth giving our OPINION and how we've observed games that Tebow has played and how we THINK he will play the rest of his career.
Why would I need an alias if I've been answering every stupid comment since day one?
Why would I need an alias if I've been answering every stupid comment since day one?
First off...judgement call and decision making are the same thing. Nice way for you to seperate to make it seem like you know what you're talking about when, in reality, you make yourself look foolish. Yet I'm the one grabbing staws?
There's a difference between better passer and judgement call. Better judgement call/decision maker is what makes Tebow not throw interception. Doesn't make him the better passer.
And how can you POSSIBLY compare the 2? Tebow has 158 attempts in his 7 starts. Eli has 162 in his last 4 games. Of course Eli is going to throw more interceptions. It's common sense. Aaron Rodgers has more 3 interceptions in his last 7 games as opposed to Tebow's 1. Is Tebow better than Rodgers? Is Tebow better than Brady who has 5 INTs in his last 7?
First off...judgement call and decision making are the same thing. Nice way for you to seperate to make it seem like you know what you're talking about when, in reality, you make yourself look foolish. Yet I'm the one grabbing staws?
There's a difference between better passer and judgement call. Better judgement call/decision maker is what makes Tebow not throw interception. Doesn't make him the better passer.
And how can you POSSIBLY compare the 2? Tebow has 158 attempts in his 7 starts. Eli has 162 in his last 4 games. Of course Eli is going to throw more interceptions. It's common sense. Aaron Rodgers has more 3 interceptions in his last 7 games as opposed to Tebow's 1. Is Tebow better than Rodgers? Is Tebow better than Brady who has 5 INTs in his last 7?
Why would I need an alias if I've been answering every stupid comment since day one?
Why would I need an alias if I've been answering every stupid comment since day one?
Really? People agree with my side and you instantly attack them?
Shows how much of a child you really are.
Really? People agree with my side and you instantly attack them?
Shows how much of a child you really are.
Dude if ANY QB starts losing games Fans will be calling for his head.
Some of your argument is valid but some is like I said numerous times "grasping at straws."
Tebow has had good series' here and there. He had a solid 2nd half yesterday. But he's only "great" because he is Winning. How long do you expect a QB putting up dreadful numbers to continue to win games at this rate? The Broncos had 48 yards of offense in the first half yesterday. But come on. Do you honestly think Tebow can continue to win by doing what he's doing?
He has to improve BIG TIME and there's an IF factor there. Will he improve? Will he improve enough to continue to change the game of football by becoming a solid passer and even better runner? TIME WILL TELL.
Dude if ANY QB starts losing games Fans will be calling for his head.
Some of your argument is valid but some is like I said numerous times "grasping at straws."
Tebow has had good series' here and there. He had a solid 2nd half yesterday. But he's only "great" because he is Winning. How long do you expect a QB putting up dreadful numbers to continue to win games at this rate? The Broncos had 48 yards of offense in the first half yesterday. But come on. Do you honestly think Tebow can continue to win by doing what he's doing?
He has to improve BIG TIME and there's an IF factor there. Will he improve? Will he improve enough to continue to change the game of football by becoming a solid passer and even better runner? TIME WILL TELL.
Your arguement was pretty simple. It was that Tim Tebow was better than Eli Manning because he throws less interception. We agree Tebow is a better runner but you say he's better ONLY because of the interception. If that is the case than YOU don't have to say it because that philosophy means that you think Tebow is better than Rodgers and Brady ONLY because Tebow has thrown less interceptions.
Your arguement was pretty simple. It was that Tim Tebow was better than Eli Manning because he throws less interception. We agree Tebow is a better runner but you say he's better ONLY because of the interception. If that is the case than YOU don't have to say it because that philosophy means that you think Tebow is better than Rodgers and Brady ONLY because Tebow has thrown less interceptions.
Your arguement was pretty simple. It was that Tim Tebow was better than Eli Manning because he throws less interception. We agree Tebow is a better runner but you say he's better ONLY because of the interception. If that is the case than YOU don't have to say it because that philosophy means that you think Tebow is better than Rodgers and Brady ONLY because Tebow has thrown less interceptions.
But I'm the one who has to admit that I'm wrong?
Everyone can clearly see that what you wrote was exactly how I explained it.
Your arguement was pretty simple. It was that Tim Tebow was better than Eli Manning because he throws less interception. We agree Tebow is a better runner but you say he's better ONLY because of the interception. If that is the case than YOU don't have to say it because that philosophy means that you think Tebow is better than Rodgers and Brady ONLY because Tebow has thrown less interceptions.
But I'm the one who has to admit that I'm wrong?
Everyone can clearly see that what you wrote was exactly how I explained it.
I was just told that Tim Tebow is a better PASSER than Eli Manning because Tebow has less interceptions.
I'm making the case that he's not as great as everyone is making him out to be. Yes he has heart. Yes he can run and do things other QBs can't do. But there are things he can't do that most QBs CAN do as well.
If people are going to argue with me that Tebow is such a great QB and "all he does is win"...than I challenge him to beat better teams than he has faced. I'm challenging him to win playoff games like other great QBs.
If we're going to compare quarterbacks...lets flip flop the schedules of Tebow and Eli and see who has what record. But we can't do that can we?
Tebow has won. He has started in 7 games and has won 6 of those starts. But how long is this charade going to go on for? As compared to earlier. Orton was 6-0 in his first 6 starts for Denver. Look what happened to him. Everyone is embracing a flawed player for good results in a SMALL sample size.
My arguement is that he won't be a good long-term quarterback and won't be able to sustain his winning ways. And I'll take all the heat anyone wants to throw at me right now because I know how the future for him will unfold. Sure...I may look like a fool now because he's winning. And I'm ok with that.
I was just told that Tim Tebow is a better PASSER than Eli Manning because Tebow has less interceptions.
I'm making the case that he's not as great as everyone is making him out to be. Yes he has heart. Yes he can run and do things other QBs can't do. But there are things he can't do that most QBs CAN do as well.
If people are going to argue with me that Tebow is such a great QB and "all he does is win"...than I challenge him to beat better teams than he has faced. I'm challenging him to win playoff games like other great QBs.
If we're going to compare quarterbacks...lets flip flop the schedules of Tebow and Eli and see who has what record. But we can't do that can we?
Tebow has won. He has started in 7 games and has won 6 of those starts. But how long is this charade going to go on for? As compared to earlier. Orton was 6-0 in his first 6 starts for Denver. Look what happened to him. Everyone is embracing a flawed player for good results in a SMALL sample size.
My arguement is that he won't be a good long-term quarterback and won't be able to sustain his winning ways. And I'll take all the heat anyone wants to throw at me right now because I know how the future for him will unfold. Sure...I may look like a fool now because he's winning. And I'm ok with that.
But I'm the one who has to admit that I'm wrong?
Everyone can clearly see that what you wrote was exactly how I explained it.
But I'm the one who has to admit that I'm wrong?
Everyone can clearly see that what you wrote was exactly how I explained it.
Tebow has had good series' here and there. He had a solid 2nd half yesterday. But he's only "great" because he is Winning. How long do you expect a QB putting up dreadful numbers to continue to win games at this rate? The Broncos had 48 yards of offense in the first half yesterday. But come on. Do you honestly think Tebow can continue to win by doing what he's doing?
He has to improve BIG TIME and there's an IF factor there. Will he improve? Will he improve enough to continue to change the game of football by becoming a solid passer and even better runner? TIME WILL TELL.
Since becoming a starter Tim Tebow is....
61-133 for 852 yards, 8 TDs 1int
72 rushing attempts for 417 yards with 3 touchdowns.
6 - 1 record including SIX 4th quartercomebacks.
If you think those are dreadful numbers you are completly blind.
Tebow has had good series' here and there. He had a solid 2nd half yesterday. But he's only "great" because he is Winning. How long do you expect a QB putting up dreadful numbers to continue to win games at this rate? The Broncos had 48 yards of offense in the first half yesterday. But come on. Do you honestly think Tebow can continue to win by doing what he's doing?
He has to improve BIG TIME and there's an IF factor there. Will he improve? Will he improve enough to continue to change the game of football by becoming a solid passer and even better runner? TIME WILL TELL.
Since becoming a starter Tim Tebow is....
61-133 for 852 yards, 8 TDs 1int
72 rushing attempts for 417 yards with 3 touchdowns.
6 - 1 record including SIX 4th quartercomebacks.
If you think those are dreadful numbers you are completly blind.
Really? Is that why I can quote your post where it says:
better runer? tebow
better passer? tebow(no interception)
better judgement call? tebow(knows that a turnover is very critical,and it makes any QB look bad)
better decision making? tebow
better overall? tebow
sorry pal, not only you're a hater you're also a homer.
So you're NOT saying that Tebow is the better passer because "(no interception)".
Come on. It's easy to say something and say "I didn't say that". But once you hit "submit"...it's right there for everyone to see
Really? Is that why I can quote your post where it says:
better runer? tebow
better passer? tebow(no interception)
better judgement call? tebow(knows that a turnover is very critical,and it makes any QB look bad)
better decision making? tebow
better overall? tebow
sorry pal, not only you're a hater you're also a homer.
So you're NOT saying that Tebow is the better passer because "(no interception)".
Come on. It's easy to say something and say "I didn't say that". But once you hit "submit"...it's right there for everyone to see
I don't need "English Comprehension". All I need is reading comprehension. I'm not illiterate so I know what you wrote. How could you possibly deny that?
And don't insult me when it's right there. It only makes you more foolish and less credible.
I don't need "English Comprehension". All I need is reading comprehension. I'm not illiterate so I know what you wrote. How could you possibly deny that?
And don't insult me when it's right there. It only makes you more foolish and less credible.
Your arguement was pretty simple. It was that Tim Tebow was better than Eli Manning because he throws less interception. We agree Tebow is a better runner but you say he's better ONLY because of the interception. If that is the case than YOU don't have to say it because that philosophy means that you think Tebow is better than Rodgers and Brady ONLY because Tebow has thrown less interceptions.
Your arguement was pretty simple. It was that Tim Tebow was better than Eli Manning because he throws less interception. We agree Tebow is a better runner but you say he's better ONLY because of the interception. If that is the case than YOU don't have to say it because that philosophy means that you think Tebow is better than Rodgers and Brady ONLY because Tebow has thrown less interceptions.
The only reason I continue to respond is so I can stick it to the people who are talking all this shit to me. If this was a more respectable thread without people calling me a moron based on my opinion than I wouldn't have to.
I never put myself in a spot where I run away when I'm outnumbered just to come back later and say "I told you so". I've been here from the start and I'll be here when he gets a clean slate next season and comes back to reality.
The only reason I continue to respond is so I can stick it to the people who are talking all this shit to me. If this was a more respectable thread without people calling me a moron based on my opinion than I wouldn't have to.
I never put myself in a spot where I run away when I'm outnumbered just to come back later and say "I told you so". I've been here from the start and I'll be here when he gets a clean slate next season and comes back to reality.
What post is that? The one I saw was your awesome breakdown of how Tebow is better at every possible way as a quarterback.
What post is that? The one I saw was your awesome breakdown of how Tebow is better at every possible way as a quarterback.
Really? Is that why I can quote your post where it says:
better runer? tebow
better passer? tebow(no interception)
better judgement call? tebow(knows that a turnover is very critical,and it makes any QB look bad)
better decision making? tebow
better overall? tebow
sorry pal, not only you're a hater you're also a homer.
So you're NOT saying that Tebow is the better passer because "(no interception)".
Come on. It's easy to say something and say "I didn't say that". But once you hit "submit"...it's right there for everyone to see
Really? Is that why I can quote your post where it says:
better runer? tebow
better passer? tebow(no interception)
better judgement call? tebow(knows that a turnover is very critical,and it makes any QB look bad)
better decision making? tebow
better overall? tebow
sorry pal, not only you're a hater you're also a homer.
So you're NOT saying that Tebow is the better passer because "(no interception)".
Come on. It's easy to say something and say "I didn't say that". But once you hit "submit"...it's right there for everyone to see
So what's your final verdict? Who's the better passer? Eli or Tebow?
And it's not the point about getting mixed up or not. It's the point about not being a hypocrite. Don't tell me that I have to "admit when I'm wrong" when not even you will admit when you're wrong.
So what's your final verdict? Who's the better passer? Eli or Tebow?
And it's not the point about getting mixed up or not. It's the point about not being a hypocrite. Don't tell me that I have to "admit when I'm wrong" when not even you will admit when you're wrong.
The only reason I continue to respond is so I can stick it to the people who are talking all this shit to me. If this was a more respectable thread without people calling me a moron based on my opinion than I wouldn't have to.
I never put myself in a spot where I run away when I'm outnumbered just to come back later and say "I told you so". I've been here from the start and I'll be here when he gets a clean slate next season and comes back to reality.
The only reason I continue to respond is so I can stick it to the people who are talking all this shit to me. If this was a more respectable thread without people calling me a moron based on my opinion than I wouldn't have to.
I never put myself in a spot where I run away when I'm outnumbered just to come back later and say "I told you so". I've been here from the start and I'll be here when he gets a clean slate next season and comes back to reality.
Hanie as QB + No Forte + Tebow v Bears D and that under 36.5 looks incredible.
Who's going to score a TD in this game? The only TD that may be scored would come from Hester on a kick return or Hanie throwing a pick-6.
Hanie as QB + No Forte + Tebow v Bears D and that under 36.5 looks incredible.
Who's going to score a TD in this game? The only TD that may be scored would come from Hester on a kick return or Hanie throwing a pick-6.
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