Hey Guys...Tim Tebow Still Sucks

Don't insult 90% of this thread by calling them stupid. I've responded to countless posts from matt, wake and even yourself. If they're stupid...you just called yourself stupid.

And what exactly was the "assumption" I made? I said that I don't care about what an article said after you told me that I don't respond to articles from "experts". What does reading an article from an "expert" mean? "Experts" love Tebow and "experts" hate Tebow. I'm given ONE article of and that's supposed to change my stance?

Wow, this thread again  

Tebow is a winner, he improved his stats and did it without the help of the defense this time.  Stop with all of the excuses and reasons not to like the guy and his playing ability. Some people are pig headed and never change their views on someone. So what, sparky don't like tebow as a qb, big deal, one guys opinion. Tebow is doing just fine without some unknown poster on a sports forum not liking him.

Sparky - The Pats have a much better team than the Broncos. So even if he loses to them, that what is suppose to happen

Beating the pats would be tough for even Marino or Montana with that Broncos team

My post was responding to minion.  I couldn’t care less if you respond to it or not.

You started a thread titled “Hey Guys…Tim Tebow Still Sucks”

Tim Tebow took over a shitty 1-4 team and now has a 6-1 record as a starter this season to go along with the best TD/INT ratio in the NFL.

A guy that sucks certainly couldn’t do that.

You have been proven wrong and are eating crow.  Whether you can admit you were wrong or not is irrelevant.

But the Pats don't have a "much better team" though. The Broncos have a better defense. The Broncos have a better running back/running game.

What the Patriots do have is a better quarterback. A better tight end crew and Wes Welker. Or do they? I still believe that Brady makes his WR better than they really are (ala Branch). But that may just be me.

It's amazing. The bottom 5 passing defenses in football are the Bears, Giants, Saints, Packers and Patriots. All playoff contenders with 4 of them in the playoffs at this point.

The Patriots aren't really a good team. They just have one of the best quarterbacks in the game that no defense can stop.

First off, your correction is false.

And as for the post I was responding to: the guy said he agreed with you about Tebow and was a doubter.  But now that Tebow proved him wrong he is man enough to admit it.

It seemed pretty cut and dry to me.

But you are basing stuff off of one game. Like if he doesnt beat the Pats you will come on here and say "HA, I told you so."

The Pats are the #1 seed in the Afc, trust me they are a good team.

I'm basing my thoughts, comments and feelings off of what Tebow has done his entire life. WIN.

You are just waiting for him to fail once to say I told you so

Those good teams losing to bad teams are called upsets. They happen all the time.

I don't need Tebow to lose to a bad team to express how I feel about him as a QB. He doesn't even just have to lose to good teams.

I know I've said it before but it wasn't in a direct quote to you so I'll say it again.

I made this thread expecting him to fall off the wagon. He hasn't done so yet. And good for him. But my point is that it will come. He'll become an average to below average quarterback and, when the league starts to figure him out, he'll have no college football style edge on them. And when he starts to lose, nobody will have anything to say because, right now, all anyone has is that he's "a winner".

You can't beat every team you face (good or bad). If you do...you'll do something that hasn't been done since the Dolphins. I get that. But I just think it's unfair to give Tebow ALL this credit, by himself, for a small sample size of winning against good teams.

Give him 2-3 years in the league and see if anyone remembers his 2011 season. And if someone says "remember when he was 6-1?" I'll say "who cares about the past".

Nope.  I just enjoy seeing haters like you have to eat your own words.

Point out where I said Tebow is a great QB.  Go on.  I’ll wait.

So Tebow is bad because he keeps leading his team to 4th quarter comebacks?  Great argument.

And he instantly jumped on the side of the majority and took a shot at me. I mean...after reading this thread...if you want people to like you you'd say Tebow is great and call me stupid. He jumped on that bandwagon with his first post in this thread.

And how is my correction false? Will Tebow not be playing for the Broncos if he wins 3 championships in the 5 year span that you joked about?

So is Eli still a better thrower? If so...than Tebow sucks too. But that's not just throwing words in your mouth...that's using your own philosophy against you.

So if I were to admit right now that I was wrong about Tebow and Tebow comes out flat next year and plays .500 football...I'd have to jump back on my initial choice in the discussion. Why would I say something that I don't believe in and why would I say something because of a 7 game span?

My point is this. "Great Quarterbacks" in this league are Aaron Rodgers, Tom Brady and Drew Brees. The next tier are Big Ben, Tony Romo and Eli Manning (maybe you can add Stafford when he's healthy but he hasn't proved he can stay healthy). Then you have a dropoff.

Tim Tebow isn't a "great quarterback" under my definition of the term. If he was...than asking him to compete with the likes of the aforementioned quarterbacks wouldn't be something stupid to conclude. And also...he should be able to beat the guys I have in my second tier.

Tebow, right now, is proving everyone wrong. The question that I pose is...WILL HE KEEP IT UP. And nobody has told me that he won't. And if that's the case...we'll have to see because I don't think he will. If he does, and he has more than a half season of winning in his NFL career, and he can beat and compete with big name teams. Than I have absolutely no problem with admitting that I was wrong.

You saw my post where I gave him credit against the Vikings (regardless that the Vikings secondary was in shambles). I give credit where credit is due. I say that he's great when it comes to taking over in final drives of the game. He's proven to be clutch...no arguements there. But when those final drives aren't within reach...he's nothing but a below average quarterback. And if that's proven in the future...I will be right about my prediction.

So if someone has an opinion they must maintain that opinion until the day they die?  They aren’t allowed to change it when it gets proven wrong?

Tebow might not even be in Denver next season so I have no idea why you are so certain he is going to be spending the next 5 seasons there.

That's where the problem lies.

The PATRIOTS are a "good team" even though they have a shaky defense and lack a running game.

But TEBOW is a "great quarterback" because of everything he does.

Why is it that Tebow IS the Broncos but Brady isn't THE Patriots? Brady means far more to the Patriots' success than Tebow means to the Broncos' success. Maybe it's just me who thinks that but I think it's a pretty fair assessment.