This is a very good point - 2 star QB Manning/Mahomes- public love them - SEATTLE defense put a demolition on Denver in that super bowl
The huge point you fail to see is that Mahomes extends plays with his feet...unlike Manning who was a wax figurine in Madame Tussaud's museum. Mahomes' accuracy is not affected by rolling out and throwing on the run...unlike Peyton who couldn't hit the broadside of a barn when he was forced out of the pocket.
Why are you so certain that the Chiefs' Oline won't have some success blocking the 49er front four in obvious passing downs? Is it that SF blew out the great Vikings and Packers??? I would not put too much value in those wins if I were you.
The KC Oline was able to block out the Ravens and the Pats Dline rushers.
You don't think that Hill, Kelce, Watkins, Hardman, and McCoy can run hot routes? Psssssssstttt here is a little secret, your safeties blow and can be beaten especially deep.
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Quote Originally Posted by Ikid2groove035:
This is a very good point - 2 star QB Manning/Mahomes- public love them - SEATTLE defense put a demolition on Denver in that super bowl
The huge point you fail to see is that Mahomes extends plays with his feet...unlike Manning who was a wax figurine in Madame Tussaud's museum. Mahomes' accuracy is not affected by rolling out and throwing on the run...unlike Peyton who couldn't hit the broadside of a barn when he was forced out of the pocket.
Why are you so certain that the Chiefs' Oline won't have some success blocking the 49er front four in obvious passing downs? Is it that SF blew out the great Vikings and Packers??? I would not put too much value in those wins if I were you.
The KC Oline was able to block out the Ravens and the Pats Dline rushers.
You don't think that Hill, Kelce, Watkins, Hardman, and McCoy can run hot routes? Psssssssstttt here is a little secret, your safeties blow and can be beaten especially deep.
This is a very good point - 2 star QB Manning/Mahomes- public love them - SEATTLE defense put a demolition on Denver in that super bowl
The huge point you fail to see is that Mahomes extends plays with his feet...unlike Manning who was a wax figurine in Madame Tussaud's museum. Mahomes' accuracy is not affected by rolling out and throwing on the run...unlike Peyton who couldn't hit the broadside of a barn when he was forced out of the pocket. Why are you so certain that the Chiefs' Oline won't have some success blocking the 49er front four in obvious passing downs? Is it that SF blew out the great Vikings and Packers??? I would not put too much value in those wins if I were you. The KC Oline was able to block out the Ravens and the Pats Dline rushers. You don't think that Hill, Kelce, Watkins, Hardman, and McCoy can run hot routes? Psssssssstttt here is a little secret, your safeties blow and can be beaten especially deep.
What happen in 2007 with the juggernaut patriots offense vs the giants D-line? Sure Mahomes is a different animal. There’s only so much pressure you can take in a game. No Qb like 2 be hit and be uncomfortable
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Quote Originally Posted by lancer89074:
Quote Originally Posted by Ikid2groove035:
This is a very good point - 2 star QB Manning/Mahomes- public love them - SEATTLE defense put a demolition on Denver in that super bowl
The huge point you fail to see is that Mahomes extends plays with his feet...unlike Manning who was a wax figurine in Madame Tussaud's museum. Mahomes' accuracy is not affected by rolling out and throwing on the run...unlike Peyton who couldn't hit the broadside of a barn when he was forced out of the pocket. Why are you so certain that the Chiefs' Oline won't have some success blocking the 49er front four in obvious passing downs? Is it that SF blew out the great Vikings and Packers??? I would not put too much value in those wins if I were you. The KC Oline was able to block out the Ravens and the Pats Dline rushers. You don't think that Hill, Kelce, Watkins, Hardman, and McCoy can run hot routes? Psssssssstttt here is a little secret, your safeties blow and can be beaten especially deep.
What happen in 2007 with the juggernaut patriots offense vs the giants D-line? Sure Mahomes is a different animal. There’s only so much pressure you can take in a game. No Qb like 2 be hit and be uncomfortable
What happen in 2007 with the juggernaut patriots offense vs the giants D-line? Sure Mahomes is a different animal. There’s only so much pressure you can take in a game. No Qb like 2 be hit and be uncomfortable
My God another bad example...Brady is not mobile either...he was a sitting duck from Dline penetration (Mahomes extends plays)...by the way who was the genius defensive coordinator who orchestrated all of that Dline pressure in Brady's face that day?
It was the guy who is the current defensive coordinator for the Chiefs...Spagnuolo...I wouldn't be surprised if on passing downs Jimmy G isn't the one eating turf.
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Quote Originally Posted by Ikid2groove035:
What happen in 2007 with the juggernaut patriots offense vs the giants D-line? Sure Mahomes is a different animal. There’s only so much pressure you can take in a game. No Qb like 2 be hit and be uncomfortable
My God another bad example...Brady is not mobile either...he was a sitting duck from Dline penetration (Mahomes extends plays)...by the way who was the genius defensive coordinator who orchestrated all of that Dline pressure in Brady's face that day?
It was the guy who is the current defensive coordinator for the Chiefs...Spagnuolo...I wouldn't be surprised if on passing downs Jimmy G isn't the one eating turf.
Lancer, I remember the SEA conquest of DEN well, one of my best SB wins, $ wise. Public jumped all over an aging Peyton and his offense .That SEA defense was special. While the 49er defense is good, they are not that Seahawks defense. I'm amused by all those who say the SF D-line will eat Mahomes up. KC QB's (matt moore played 2 games) were only sacked 25 times, while SF gave up 36 sacks and you know they ran the ball considerably more so percentage wise the number of sacks per pass play was even greater. You know else gave up only 25 sacks? The New Orleans Saints. How many times did SF sack Brees? Zero. And as great a passer as Brees is, he has no elusiveness. And he threw 5 TD's with 0 pix. Yea I know, injuries, lets be real EVERYONE has injuries. The Chiefs have finally gotten healthy too, like the 9ers, primarily on defense. And while SF recorded 48 sacks this season, the Chiefs had 45 themselves. In the playoffs 2 games each? SF 9, KC 8. It may sound like I don't like the niners, not true. But I wonder if their defense isn't quite as good as perception would say and I'm pretty sure KC's is better than the public perceives.
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Lancer, I remember the SEA conquest of DEN well, one of my best SB wins, $ wise. Public jumped all over an aging Peyton and his offense .That SEA defense was special. While the 49er defense is good, they are not that Seahawks defense. I'm amused by all those who say the SF D-line will eat Mahomes up. KC QB's (matt moore played 2 games) were only sacked 25 times, while SF gave up 36 sacks and you know they ran the ball considerably more so percentage wise the number of sacks per pass play was even greater. You know else gave up only 25 sacks? The New Orleans Saints. How many times did SF sack Brees? Zero. And as great a passer as Brees is, he has no elusiveness. And he threw 5 TD's with 0 pix. Yea I know, injuries, lets be real EVERYONE has injuries. The Chiefs have finally gotten healthy too, like the 9ers, primarily on defense. And while SF recorded 48 sacks this season, the Chiefs had 45 themselves. In the playoffs 2 games each? SF 9, KC 8. It may sound like I don't like the niners, not true. But I wonder if their defense isn't quite as good as perception would say and I'm pretty sure KC's is better than the public perceives.
Lancer, I remember the SEA conquest of DEN well, one of my best SB wins, $ wise. Public jumped all over an aging Peyton and his offense .That SEA defense was special. While the 49er defense is good, they are not that Seahawks defense. I'm amused by all those who say the SF D-line will eat Mahomes up. KC QB's (matt moore played 2 games) were only sacked 25 times, while SF gave up 36 sacks and you know they ran the ball considerably more so percentage wise the number of sacks per pass play was even greater. You know else gave up only 25 sacks? The New Orleans Saints. How many times did SF sack Brees? Zero. And as great a passer as Brees is, he has no elusiveness. And he threw 5 TD's with 0 pix. Yea I know, injuries, lets be real EVERYONE has injuries. The Chiefs have finally gotten healthy too, like the 9ers, primarily on defense. And while SF recorded 48 sacks this season, the Chiefs had 45 themselves. In the playoffs 2 games each? SF 9, KC 8. It may sound like I don't like the niners, not true. But I wonder if their defense isn't quite as good as perception would say and I'm pretty sure KC's is better than the public perceives.
Indeed...solid points...unheralded playmakers, turnovers, and in game injuries...ugly tough game to pick a side...both QBs under the lights on Broadway...both brain trusts filled with innovative minds...game could be a classic.
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Quote Originally Posted by mrusso:
Lancer, I remember the SEA conquest of DEN well, one of my best SB wins, $ wise. Public jumped all over an aging Peyton and his offense .That SEA defense was special. While the 49er defense is good, they are not that Seahawks defense. I'm amused by all those who say the SF D-line will eat Mahomes up. KC QB's (matt moore played 2 games) were only sacked 25 times, while SF gave up 36 sacks and you know they ran the ball considerably more so percentage wise the number of sacks per pass play was even greater. You know else gave up only 25 sacks? The New Orleans Saints. How many times did SF sack Brees? Zero. And as great a passer as Brees is, he has no elusiveness. And he threw 5 TD's with 0 pix. Yea I know, injuries, lets be real EVERYONE has injuries. The Chiefs have finally gotten healthy too, like the 9ers, primarily on defense. And while SF recorded 48 sacks this season, the Chiefs had 45 themselves. In the playoffs 2 games each? SF 9, KC 8. It may sound like I don't like the niners, not true. But I wonder if their defense isn't quite as good as perception would say and I'm pretty sure KC's is better than the public perceives.
Indeed...solid points...unheralded playmakers, turnovers, and in game injuries...ugly tough game to pick a side...both QBs under the lights on Broadway...both brain trusts filled with innovative minds...game could be a classic.
What happen in 2007 with the juggernaut patriots offense vs the giants D-line? Sure Mahomes is a different animal. There’s only so much pressure you can take in a game. No Qb like 2 be hit and be uncomfortable
My God another bad example...Brady is not mobile either...he was a sitting duck from Dline penetration (Mahomes extends plays)...by the way who was the genius defensive coordinator who orchestrated all of that Dline pressure in Brady's face that day? It was the guy who is the current defensive coordinator for the Chiefs...Spagnuolo...I wouldn't be surprised if on passing downs Jimmy G isn't the one eating turf.
You wouldn’t think KC d-line is anywhere near that 2008 giants D-line? Lollololol
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Quote Originally Posted by lancer89074:
Quote Originally Posted by Ikid2groove035:
What happen in 2007 with the juggernaut patriots offense vs the giants D-line? Sure Mahomes is a different animal. There’s only so much pressure you can take in a game. No Qb like 2 be hit and be uncomfortable
My God another bad example...Brady is not mobile either...he was a sitting duck from Dline penetration (Mahomes extends plays)...by the way who was the genius defensive coordinator who orchestrated all of that Dline pressure in Brady's face that day? It was the guy who is the current defensive coordinator for the Chiefs...Spagnuolo...I wouldn't be surprised if on passing downs Jimmy G isn't the one eating turf.
You wouldn’t think KC d-line is anywhere near that 2008 giants D-line? Lollololol
Again, the OVER/UNDER in this game boils right down to whether SF can pressure Mahomes...
If they can't, it will go over because Shanahan will quickly realize he can't play conservative all game long...because believe you me...he wants to do just that...run the ball, control the clock...keep Mahomes off the field...
Like Mike Tyson said...
"Everyone has a plan until they get punched in the face."
If SF doesn't get pressure on Mahomes, they will get punched in the face early and often...and that fine game plan will get thrown out the window and Shanahan will unless the SF offense...
WHEN that happens...51.5...55...60....will be far, far in the rear view window...
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Again, the OVER/UNDER in this game boils right down to whether SF can pressure Mahomes...
If they can't, it will go over because Shanahan will quickly realize he can't play conservative all game long...because believe you me...he wants to do just that...run the ball, control the clock...keep Mahomes off the field...
Like Mike Tyson said...
"Everyone has a plan until they get punched in the face."
If SF doesn't get pressure on Mahomes, they will get punched in the face early and often...and that fine game plan will get thrown out the window and Shanahan will unless the SF offense...
WHEN that happens...51.5...55...60....will be far, far in the rear view window...
HERE is where KC fails 49ers defense rankings 1. San Francisco 49ers5 of 5The 49ers are the No. 1 defense in the NFL, bar none. They don't let teams score, and they stuff the run. Led by all-universe linebacker Patrick Willis, the 49ers defense has a tendency to swallow up opposing running backs and crap them out the other end, sometimes injuring them in the process. The incredible thing about this unit is that many of them are among the top five in their position. Justin Smith is the best 3-4 defensive end in all the NFL. Dashon Goldson, Carlos Rogers, NaVorro Bowman and Isaac Sopoaga are all elite individual players that are playing well together. This many elite players on one team, playing team ball, is why the 49ers are the No. 1 defense in the NFL.The Statsfirst in scoring defense with 15.3 per gamethird in forced fumbles with 12ninth in interceptions with 1210th in sacks with 23first in rushing defense with 73.2 allowed per game.KC run defense ranked 29th in league
please stop with the Patrick Willis posts... yes he was all world but that was 7 years ago
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Quote Originally Posted by zebrakiller:
HERE is where KC fails 49ers defense rankings 1. San Francisco 49ers5 of 5The 49ers are the No. 1 defense in the NFL, bar none. They don't let teams score, and they stuff the run. Led by all-universe linebacker Patrick Willis, the 49ers defense has a tendency to swallow up opposing running backs and crap them out the other end, sometimes injuring them in the process. The incredible thing about this unit is that many of them are among the top five in their position. Justin Smith is the best 3-4 defensive end in all the NFL. Dashon Goldson, Carlos Rogers, NaVorro Bowman and Isaac Sopoaga are all elite individual players that are playing well together. This many elite players on one team, playing team ball, is why the 49ers are the No. 1 defense in the NFL.The Statsfirst in scoring defense with 15.3 per gamethird in forced fumbles with 12ninth in interceptions with 1210th in sacks with 23first in rushing defense with 73.2 allowed per game.KC run defense ranked 29th in league
please stop with the Patrick Willis posts... yes he was all world but that was 7 years ago
Mahomes is #1 in the league in # of times sacked per pass attempt.
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Odds of Mahomes only getting sacked twice or less in the game, given the above information? (literally 1/3rd of SF's games they only managed 2 or less sacks)
pretty damn good.
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Mahomes is #1 in the league in # of times sacked per pass attempt.
Distribution of SF sacks for each of their 18 games including playoffs, sorted:
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Odds of Mahomes only getting sacked twice or less in the game, given the above information? (literally 1/3rd of SF's games they only managed 2 or less sacks)
One thing not mentioned, is that elusive quarterbacks have given the Niners problems this year because it negates some of that great pass rush. Murray and Wilson specifically. Mahommes is pretty mobile as well, might be something to consider.
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Quote Originally Posted by gooch72:
One thing not mentioned, is that elusive quarterbacks have given the Niners problems this year because it negates some of that great pass rush. Murray and Wilson specifically. Mahommes is pretty mobile as well, might be something to consider.
One thing not mentioned, is that elusive quarterbacks have given the Niners problems this year because it negates some of that great pass rush. Murray and Wilson specifically. Mahommes is pretty mobile as well, might be something to consider.
In the 5 games this season against “mobile quarterbacks” [Murray x2, Wilson x2, L. Jackson] the average stat line for those quarterbacks was:
192.2 yards passing
1.6 TD’s
56.8 yards rushing
0.4 rushing TD’s.
Not exactly the shredding people want to believe...
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Quote Originally Posted by gooch72:
One thing not mentioned, is that elusive quarterbacks have given the Niners problems this year because it negates some of that great pass rush. Murray and Wilson specifically. Mahommes is pretty mobile as well, might be something to consider.
In the 5 games this season against “mobile quarterbacks” [Murray x2, Wilson x2, L. Jackson] the average stat line for those quarterbacks was:
192.2 yards passing
1.6 TD’s
56.8 yards rushing
0.4 rushing TD’s.
Not exactly the shredding people want to believe...
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