One thing not mentioned, is that elusive quarterbacks have given the Niners problems this year because it negates some of that great pass rush. Murray and Wilson specifically. Mahommes is pretty mobile as well, might be something to consider.
In the 5 games this season against “mobile quarterbacks” [Murray x2, Wilson x2, L. Jackson] the average stat line for those quarterbacks was: 192.2 yards passing 1.6 TD’s 56.8 yards rushing 0.4 rushing TD’s. Not exactly the shredding people want to believe...
Those same QB’s average vs rest of league:
232.66, 1.86 TD, 45.26 yards rushing, .3 TD
SF actually performed BETTER against these QB’s vs the rest of the NFL on average; not worse.
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Quote Originally Posted by BigNiner:
Quote Originally Posted by gooch72:
One thing not mentioned, is that elusive quarterbacks have given the Niners problems this year because it negates some of that great pass rush. Murray and Wilson specifically. Mahommes is pretty mobile as well, might be something to consider.
In the 5 games this season against “mobile quarterbacks” [Murray x2, Wilson x2, L. Jackson] the average stat line for those quarterbacks was: 192.2 yards passing 1.6 TD’s 56.8 yards rushing 0.4 rushing TD’s. Not exactly the shredding people want to believe...
Those same QB’s average vs rest of league:
232.66, 1.86 TD, 45.26 yards rushing, .3 TD
SF actually performed BETTER against these QB’s vs the rest of the NFL on average; not worse.
Ultimately, none. It doesn't matter. As a team. SF will run them over, literally and figuratively.
Rand Moss, Tom Brady couldn't beat Giants.
Buffalos all world offense couldn't beat Giants/Hostetler.
Think about this.. the only super bowls Giants and 49ers lost, we're to the Ravens.
Do you know why? Because the Ravens were/Are basically the Browns. They simply moved and then changed the name. They weren't an original AFL franchise.
There is a seniority, a pecking order in the nfl and the super bowls act that out. It's not 100%. There are other variables as to why Raiders beat Redskins and Pats beat Eagles. But of course your mind isn't open enough for that yet.
Kc vs Niners, is the same as kc vs GB. They won't be allowed to beat an older, original nfl franchise..
They were allowed to beat a newer franchise vikings, to sell the merger. Same with Jets. After that, both teams were told to sit down and shut up.
Of course you dont understand this...what ever.
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Ultimately, none. It doesn't matter. As a team. SF will run them over, literally and figuratively.
Rand Moss, Tom Brady couldn't beat Giants.
Buffalos all world offense couldn't beat Giants/Hostetler.
Think about this.. the only super bowls Giants and 49ers lost, we're to the Ravens.
Do you know why? Because the Ravens were/Are basically the Browns. They simply moved and then changed the name. They weren't an original AFL franchise.
There is a seniority, a pecking order in the nfl and the super bowls act that out. It's not 100%. There are other variables as to why Raiders beat Redskins and Pats beat Eagles. But of course your mind isn't open enough for that yet.
Kc vs Niners, is the same as kc vs GB. They won't be allowed to beat an older, original nfl franchise..
They were allowed to beat a newer franchise vikings, to sell the merger. Same with Jets. After that, both teams were told to sit down and shut up.
Mahomes, Kelce, Hill, Watkins, Hardman, and the entire KC Oline (great in pass protection) are speedier than what SF has on offense IMO (Kittle, Samuels and Sanders are talented no question). SF Oline and receivers are better at run blocking which is critical to their success. A must is keeping Mahomes on the sideline and burning clock...
Chris Jones, Frank Clark, Terrell Suggs, Tyrann Mathieu and Dan Sorensen are as good as anyone on SF (the SF Dline can bring pressure normally but can they against the stout #3 ranked KC Oline?). The 49ers have the better linebackers and Richard Sherman...but the SF safeties are susceptible to being burned over the top...I expect at least 3 long strikes from Mahomes to the track team.
Special teams...I would give the edge to the burners in the return game to KC and Butker (89% lifetime FG percentage) and Colquit isn't shabby either (Houston did block one of his punts). Actually I look at that blocked punt as a good thing...
Overall SF is a very young team...wonder how they will stand up under the spotlight? I look for KC to jump out on top in this one...not like their prior two games.
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Mahomes, Kelce, Hill, Watkins, Hardman, and the entire KC Oline (great in pass protection) are speedier than what SF has on offense IMO (Kittle, Samuels and Sanders are talented no question). SF Oline and receivers are better at run blocking which is critical to their success. A must is keeping Mahomes on the sideline and burning clock...
Chris Jones, Frank Clark, Terrell Suggs, Tyrann Mathieu and Dan Sorensen are as good as anyone on SF (the SF Dline can bring pressure normally but can they against the stout #3 ranked KC Oline?). The 49ers have the better linebackers and Richard Sherman...but the SF safeties are susceptible to being burned over the top...I expect at least 3 long strikes from Mahomes to the track team.
Special teams...I would give the edge to the burners in the return game to KC and Butker (89% lifetime FG percentage) and Colquit isn't shabby either (Houston did block one of his punts). Actually I look at that blocked punt as a good thing...
Overall SF is a very young team...wonder how they will stand up under the spotlight? I look for KC to jump out on top in this one...not like their prior two games.
Literally ..the most worthless song in the history of the world...and that is damn sure saying something...I will never get those 30 seconds of my life back...stopped early when I realized what I wasn't missing...again...
The song did seem to fit the knucklehead that I sent it to Smacks (not you).
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Quote Originally Posted by smacksmiter:
Quote Originally Posted by lancer89074:
Literally ..the most worthless song in the history of the world...and that is damn sure saying something...I will never get those 30 seconds of my life back...stopped early when I realized what I wasn't missing...again...
The song did seem to fit the knucklehead that I sent it to Smacks (not you).
Jimmy G MVP +300 Miami Temp at Kickoff UNDER 71 -150
Great number on Garoppolo!
I think another prop with great odds is Kendrick Bourne to score a TD at +2000. Bourne has scored 6 TD’s in the Niners last 10 games and has emerged as a somewhat favorite endzone target for Garoppolo.
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Quote Originally Posted by andarmac99:
Jimmy G MVP +300 Miami Temp at Kickoff UNDER 71 -150
Great number on Garoppolo!
I think another prop with great odds is Kendrick Bourne to score a TD at +2000. Bourne has scored 6 TD’s in the Niners last 10 games and has emerged as a somewhat favorite endzone target for Garoppolo.
49ers dominate in the trenches - that’s the most important thing - O-line and D-line this game will get ugly - SF defense is fully healthy - I expect a 49ers blowout
Blowout, let's not get carried away but your logic is strong.. SF is the play 1H. FG...
In fact, I hope it's a 1H blowout so I can double dip and take the Chiefs to cover 2H ATS
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Quote Originally Posted by Ikid2groove035:
49ers dominate in the trenches - that’s the most important thing - O-line and D-line this game will get ugly - SF defense is fully healthy - I expect a 49ers blowout
Blowout, let's not get carried away but your logic is strong.. SF is the play 1H. FG...
In fact, I hope it's a 1H blowout so I can double dip and take the Chiefs to cover 2H ATS
This is a very good point - 2 star QB Manning/Mahomes- public love them - SEATTLE defense put a demolition on Denver in that super bowl
The huge point you fail to see is that Mahomes extends plays with his feet...unlike Manning who was a wax figurine in Madame Tussaud's museum. Mahomes' accuracy is not affected by rolling out and throwing on the run...unlike Peyton who couldn't hit the broadside of a barn when he was forced out of the pocket. Why are you so certain that the Chiefs' Oline won't have some success blocking the 49er front four in obvious passing downs? Is it that SF blew out the great Vikings and Packers??? I would not put too much value in those wins if I were you. The KC Oline was able to block out the Ravens and the Pats Dline rushers. You don't think that Hill, Kelce, Watkins, Hardman, and McCoy can run hot routes? Psssssssstttt here is a little secret, your safeties blow and can be beaten especially deep.
All the teams u mention dont have guys like Sherman..
Agreed Mahomes extended plays with his feet.. But u forget about .. Sherman .. Sherman is one of the best corner back who ever play the games. Beside Deion Sanders, back in the old dayz.. and Revis who play with Jets and Patriots...
Sherman is Seattle corner back when Seattle won the super bowls.. He as good ad they come..
If hillls is cover who will Mahomes throws too. Hiilss is one of his favorite receiver.. I use to take kc when Hills was out.. With out Hills kc have a hard times of winning games.. Or did not cover the spread.. I use to bet them with out Hills.. Thought they would get the jobs done.. But no..they play closer games and fail to COVER the spread.
Points is Sherman will take care of Hills.. Mahomes will throw balls to ground.. Because no body is open..
By the times he trie to scramble .. Bosa will catch up to him...
All the teams u talk about defense wise is not comparable to NINERS.. But i gave KC credit for Aquire Suggs.. On the right time..
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Quote Originally Posted by lancer89074:
Quote Originally Posted by Ikid2groove035:
This is a very good point - 2 star QB Manning/Mahomes- public love them - SEATTLE defense put a demolition on Denver in that super bowl
The huge point you fail to see is that Mahomes extends plays with his feet...unlike Manning who was a wax figurine in Madame Tussaud's museum. Mahomes' accuracy is not affected by rolling out and throwing on the run...unlike Peyton who couldn't hit the broadside of a barn when he was forced out of the pocket. Why are you so certain that the Chiefs' Oline won't have some success blocking the 49er front four in obvious passing downs? Is it that SF blew out the great Vikings and Packers??? I would not put too much value in those wins if I were you. The KC Oline was able to block out the Ravens and the Pats Dline rushers. You don't think that Hill, Kelce, Watkins, Hardman, and McCoy can run hot routes? Psssssssstttt here is a little secret, your safeties blow and can be beaten especially deep.
All the teams u mention dont have guys like Sherman..
Agreed Mahomes extended plays with his feet.. But u forget about .. Sherman .. Sherman is one of the best corner back who ever play the games. Beside Deion Sanders, back in the old dayz.. and Revis who play with Jets and Patriots...
Sherman is Seattle corner back when Seattle won the super bowls.. He as good ad they come..
If hillls is cover who will Mahomes throws too. Hiilss is one of his favorite receiver.. I use to take kc when Hills was out.. With out Hills kc have a hard times of winning games.. Or did not cover the spread.. I use to bet them with out Hills.. Thought they would get the jobs done.. But no..they play closer games and fail to COVER the spread.
Points is Sherman will take care of Hills.. Mahomes will throw balls to ground.. Because no body is open..
By the times he trie to scramble .. Bosa will catch up to him...
All the teams u talk about defense wise is not comparable to NINERS.. But i gave KC credit for Aquire Suggs.. On the right time..
Final thoughts on the game: Obviously I think SF is the much more complete football team. I have a sizable edge on them, but it's nothing to bet your whole roll on because Kansas City is a damn good team with an incredible coach/QB combo that is going to win this game quite a few times out of 100. From a non-financial perspective I hope Kansas City wins. Mahomes and Reid are incredibly easy to root for and I hope Reid finally gets a ring. But I think the SF defense will make more stops than the Chiefs. I expect KC to sell out to stop the run early. Shanahan knows this and is going to loosen Jimmy G up and hit play actions behind those stacked fronts early, which is why I have Jimmy G and Kittle/Sanders over. I think Shanahan will go back to the run later after it's opened up and the 49ers run it down their throats. SF wins 31-24.
Best of luck everyone.
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Final thoughts on the game: Obviously I think SF is the much more complete football team. I have a sizable edge on them, but it's nothing to bet your whole roll on because Kansas City is a damn good team with an incredible coach/QB combo that is going to win this game quite a few times out of 100. From a non-financial perspective I hope Kansas City wins. Mahomes and Reid are incredibly easy to root for and I hope Reid finally gets a ring. But I think the SF defense will make more stops than the Chiefs. I expect KC to sell out to stop the run early. Shanahan knows this and is going to loosen Jimmy G up and hit play actions behind those stacked fronts early, which is why I have Jimmy G and Kittle/Sanders over. I think Shanahan will go back to the run later after it's opened up and the 49ers run it down their throats. SF wins 31-24.
Deion Sanders was a non-factor back in the day. In his prime, nobody would even throw the ball in his direction, that's how good he was.
Credit for bringing up Suggs. I think he's an x-factor in the game, in that nobody is talking about him. I'm wondering if he will show up with his best performance, given it's his last game in the NFL (probably). If he does that can be a key to the game.
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Quote Originally Posted by savanh1:
Beside Deion Sanders, back in the old dayz..
Deion Sanders was a non-factor back in the day. In his prime, nobody would even throw the ball in his direction, that's how good he was.
Credit for bringing up Suggs. I think he's an x-factor in the game, in that nobody is talking about him. I'm wondering if he will show up with his best performance, given it's his last game in the NFL (probably). If he does that can be a key to the game.
Deion Sanders was a non-factor back in the day. In his prime, nobody would even throw the ball in his direction, that's how good he was.
Credit for bringing up Suggs. I think he's an x-factor in the game, in that nobody is talking about him. I'm wondering if he will show up with his best performance, given it's his last game in the NFL (probably). If he does that can be a key to the game.
dont know why but im visioning a strip sack fumble in this game
Sip on that plus money honey!
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Quote Originally Posted by budwiser:
Deion Sanders was a non-factor back in the day. In his prime, nobody would even throw the ball in his direction, that's how good he was.
Credit for bringing up Suggs. I think he's an x-factor in the game, in that nobody is talking about him. I'm wondering if he will show up with his best performance, given it's his last game in the NFL (probably). If he does that can be a key to the game.
dont know why but im visioning a strip sack fumble in this game
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