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    How the hell couldnt new orleans run the clock out, with

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    Posted: Nov. 3, 2009 - 12:42 AM ET #1

    the falcons only having one time out?

    Why were they even running the ball, instead of brees taking a knee

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    the falcons only having one time out?

    Why were they even running the ball, instead of brees taking a knee

     
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    Posted: Nov. 3, 2009 - 12:42 AM ET #2

    WAS A GODDAMM RIGGED DEAL BY REFS
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    Posted: Nov. 3, 2009 - 12:47 AM ET #3

    Quote Originally Posted by clint2463:

    WAS A GODDAMM RIGGED DEAL BY REFS

     

    forgot about the fumble, they shouldnt have even been running the ball.  They should have taken a knee

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    Quote Originally Posted by clint2463:

    WAS A GODDAMM RIGGED DEAL BY REFS

     

    forgot about the fumble, they shouldnt have even been running the ball.  They should have taken a knee

     
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    Posted: Nov. 3, 2009 - 1:04 AM ET #4

    They should have taken 3 knees, and at most the Falcons have around 20-30 seconds left and that is after the Saints punt the ball which would leave them 80 yards for a TD and like 50 yards for a FG. Dumb move to run the ball because you can fumble and give them the ball back at midfield
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    They should have taken 3 knees, and at most the Falcons have around 20-30 seconds left and that is after the Saints punt the ball which would leave them 80 yards for a TD and like 50 yards for a FG. Dumb move to run the ball because you can fumble and give them the ball back at midfield
     
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    Posted: Nov. 3, 2009 - 1:05 AM ET #5

    This shit happens...
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    Posted: Nov. 3, 2009 - 1:10 AM ET #6

    Quote Originally Posted by Crowkillers:

    This shit happens...

     

    Thats not true.  This isnt a matter of a bad bounce or something like that.

    Saints had no business running any plays other then 3 kneel downs and a punt which would have been with 12 seconds left in the game.

    Why run the ball and risk fumbling{like the guy did} with over a minute left.

    If falcons could have gotton lucky with a bomb they could have won the game, when this game should have never been in doubt.

    The saints ran the ball because they wanted the fumble, there is no doubt about it.  These coaches arent stupid, they know they could have ran the clock out without taking any risks.

    Honestly this game should be investigated.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crowkillers:

    This shit happens...

     

    Thats not true.  This isnt a matter of a bad bounce or something like that.

    Saints had no business running any plays other then 3 kneel downs and a punt which would have been with 12 seconds left in the game.

    Why run the ball and risk fumbling{like the guy did} with over a minute left.

    If falcons could have gotton lucky with a bomb they could have won the game, when this game should have never been in doubt.

    The saints ran the ball because they wanted the fumble, there is no doubt about it.  These coaches arent stupid, they know they could have ran the clock out without taking any risks.

    Honestly this game should be investigated.

     
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    Posted: Nov. 3, 2009 - 1:12 AM ET #7

    If the fumble didn't take place, the game WAS Over.

     

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    If the fumble didn't take place, the game WAS Over.

     

     
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    Posted: Nov. 3, 2009 - 1:12 AM ET #8

    saints should have run down the clock and punted with about 30 seconds left
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    Posted: Nov. 3, 2009 - 1:16 AM ET #9

    Quote Originally Posted by Crowkillers:

    If the fumble didn't take place, the game WAS Over.

     

     

    what you are failing to realize is the saints didnt have to run any running plays and risk the ball being fumbled.  By running the ball they risked the fumble, which happened.

    I think a nunch of you arent getting this, the SAINTS DIDNOT HAVE TO RUN THE BALL.  3 kneel downs and a punt with 12 seconds left or even another kneel down and give the ball to the falcons with 9 seconds left.  Dont run the ball and risk giving the ball.

    This is basic football 101

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crowkillers:

    If the fumble didn't take place, the game WAS Over.

     

     

    what you are failing to realize is the saints didnt have to run any running plays and risk the ball being fumbled.  By running the ball they risked the fumble, which happened.

    I think a nunch of you arent getting this, the SAINTS DIDNOT HAVE TO RUN THE BALL.  3 kneel downs and a punt with 12 seconds left or even another kneel down and give the ball to the falcons with 9 seconds left.  Dont run the ball and risk giving the ball.

    This is basic football 101

     
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    Posted: Nov. 3, 2009 - 1:22 AM ET #10

    I can't say for certain but I'm sure some you have better recollection, but was it not third down at the time they elect to run the ball?
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    I can't say for certain but I'm sure some you have better recollection, but was it not third down at the time they elect to run the ball?
     
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    Posted: Nov. 3, 2009 - 1:23 AM ET #11

    they ran on 3rd and 10 when bell fumbled
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    they ran on 3rd and 10 when bell fumbled
     
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    Nobody kneels down unless it will run out the clock.  3 kneel downs wouldn't have run out the clock.  I can't think of an instance when a team keeled down three times and then punted the ball.  Just doesn't happen.  So what NO did was the norm, not the exception. 
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    Nobody kneels down unless it will run out the clock.  3 kneel downs wouldn't have run out the clock.  I can't think of an instance when a team keeled down three times and then punted the ball.  Just doesn't happen.  So what NO did was the norm, not the exception. 
     
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    Posted: Nov. 3, 2009 - 1:25 AM ET #13

    wasnt there an injury to a saints player and that stopped the clock and took a time out away from the saints and not atl.

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    wasnt there an injury to a saints player and that stopped the clock and took a time out away from the saints and not atl.

     
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    Posted: Nov. 3, 2009 - 1:26 AM ET #14

    Quote Originally Posted by cd329:

     

    what you are failing to realize is the saints didnt have to run any running plays and risk the ball being fumbled.  By running the ball they risked the fumble, which happened.

    I think a nunch of you arent getting this, the SAINTS DIDNOT HAVE TO RUN THE BALL.  3 kneel downs and a punt with 12 seconds left or even another kneel down and give the ball to the falcons with 9 seconds left.  Dont run the ball and risk giving the ball.

    This is basic football 101



    What are you talking about? Teams rarely take a knee for three consecutive downs if it means giving the ball back for sure, even with 12 seconds left.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cd329:

     

    what you are failing to realize is the saints didnt have to run any running plays and risk the ball being fumbled.  By running the ball they risked the fumble, which happened.

    I think a nunch of you arent getting this, the SAINTS DIDNOT HAVE TO RUN THE BALL.  3 kneel downs and a punt with 12 seconds left or even another kneel down and give the ball to the falcons with 9 seconds left.  Dont run the ball and risk giving the ball.

    This is basic football 101



    What are you talking about? Teams rarely take a knee for three consecutive downs if it means giving the ball back for sure, even with 12 seconds left.
     
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    Posted: Nov. 3, 2009 - 1:27 AM ET #15

    had the Saints -10 myself....man that sucked....injuries, reviews, no whistles (for forward progress being impeded), and of course a huge turnover....but I agree with Bling, unless the clock goes to zero, you don't kneel.....no one does it, nor ever will
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    had the Saints -10 myself....man that sucked....injuries, reviews, no whistles (for forward progress being impeded), and of course a huge turnover....but I agree with Bling, unless the clock goes to zero, you don't kneel.....no one does it, nor ever will
     
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    Posted: Nov. 3, 2009 - 1:28 AM ET #16

    Quote Originally Posted by rokodesh:

    they ran on 3rd and 10 when bell fumbled

    thanks for confirming, so they had to keep the drive going to get a first down before they think about kneeling, still over 2 and half minutes left on the clock if I'm not mistaken

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    Quote Originally Posted by rokodesh:

    they ran on 3rd and 10 when bell fumbled

    thanks for confirming, so they had to keep the drive going to get a first down before they think about kneeling, still over 2 and half minutes left on the clock if I'm not mistaken

     
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    cd329 how old r u  in   my 30 years of football i have never seen a team kneel down 3 times and then punt  NEVER 
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    cd329 how old r u  in   my 30 years of football i have never seen a team kneel down 3 times and then punt  NEVER 
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bling:

    Nobody kneels down unless it will run out the clock.  3 kneel downs wouldn't have run out the clock.  I can't think of an instance when a team keeled down three times and then punted the ball.  Just doesn't happen.  So what NO did was the norm, not the exception. 

     

    They could have kneeled down 4 times and gave the falcons the ball with 9 seconds left.  why risk fumbling and giving them the ball back with over a minute to go, which they did.

    I have seen a ton of teams kneel to be safe, in order to run off as much clock as they could and then punt.   If it was over 2 minutes, then i say run, but not with 1:42 on the clock

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bling:

    Nobody kneels down unless it will run out the clock.  3 kneel downs wouldn't have run out the clock.  I can't think of an instance when a team keeled down three times and then punted the ball.  Just doesn't happen.  So what NO did was the norm, not the exception. 

     

    They could have kneeled down 4 times and gave the falcons the ball with 9 seconds left.  why risk fumbling and giving them the ball back with over a minute to go, which they did.

    I have seen a ton of teams kneel to be safe, in order to run off as much clock as they could and then punt.   If it was over 2 minutes, then i say run, but not with 1:42 on the clock

     
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    Posted: Nov. 3, 2009 - 1:32 AM ET #19

    that is not basic football 101   KID grow  up

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    that is not basic football 101   KID grow  up

     
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    Posted: Nov. 3, 2009 - 1:36 AM ET #20

    it was not 1:42, the falcons ran three plays after the fumble recovery just before the 2 minute warning
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    it was not 1:42, the falcons ran three plays after the fumble recovery just before the 2 minute warning
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by gunonenic:

    it was not 1:42, the falcons ran three plays after the fumble recovery just before the 2 minute warning

     

    saints got the ball from the falcons at 1:42.  check the yahoo play by play drive chart.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gunonenic:

    it was not 1:42, the falcons ran three plays after the fumble recovery just before the 2 minute warning

     

    saints got the ball from the falcons at 1:42.  check the yahoo play by play drive chart.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by wishuwerehere25:

    cd329 how old r u  in   my 30 years of football i have never seen a team kneel down 3 times and then punt  NEVER 

     

    10 my mom let me stay up late tonight.

    I have seen it done.  maybe you should watch more games.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wishuwerehere25:

    cd329 how old r u  in   my 30 years of football i have never seen a team kneel down 3 times and then punt  NEVER 

     

    10 my mom let me stay up late tonight.

    I have seen it done.  maybe you should watch more games.

     
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    Posted: Nov. 3, 2009 - 1:50 AM ET #23

    am I going senile? I clearly remember there was 2:30- 2:42 left on the clock, even the announcer said they have to try and run three plays before the two minute warning. and they did just that with 2:01 on the play clock
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    am I going senile? I clearly remember there was 2:30- 2:42 left on the clock, even the announcer said they have to try and run three plays before the two minute warning. and they did just that with 2:01 on the play clock
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bling:

    Nobody kneels down unless it will run out the clock.  3 kneel downs wouldn't have run out the clock.  I can't think of an instance when a team keeled down three times and then punted the ball.  Just doesn't happen.  So what NO did was the norm, not the exception. 

    absolutely 100% correct....unless that clock would hit :00, no team would ever kneel 3 times, then punt, even if there was 5 seconds left on the clock....if you are going to leave time on the clock after 3 downs, u run....the fumble was extremely unfortunate...at best, they would have had it on the 20 instead of the 40...some could say it was a moose of some kind, but there was only 2 minutes the entire game that NO was covering

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bling:

    Nobody kneels down unless it will run out the clock.  3 kneel downs wouldn't have run out the clock.  I can't think of an instance when a team keeled down three times and then punted the ball.  Just doesn't happen.  So what NO did was the norm, not the exception. 

    absolutely 100% correct....unless that clock would hit :00, no team would ever kneel 3 times, then punt, even if there was 5 seconds left on the clock....if you are going to leave time on the clock after 3 downs, u run....the fumble was extremely unfortunate...at best, they would have had it on the 20 instead of the 40...some could say it was a moose of some kind, but there was only 2 minutes the entire game that NO was covering

     
     
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    Posted: Nov. 3, 2009 - 1:54 AM ET #25

    saints won 24-35 right?

    what r u guys arguing about?
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    saints won 24-35 right?

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