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    Posted: Sep. 11, 2023 - 11:31 PM ET #1

    Between the terrible playcalling and bad overall job coaching by Sean Mcdermott, Allen is on a downward trajectory. How the Bills could ever let Brian Dabol walk is beyond me. Dabol single-handily turned Allen into a top 3 quarterback on his way to a storied Hall of Fame career. If not for McDermott’s terrible decision not to squib kick it to the Chiefs in the AFC championship game, the Bills might have won a Superbowl already. McDermott should have been fired for that horrible decision alone, and Dabol should have been elevated to head coach. It's been downhill since. 

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    Between the terrible playcalling and bad overall job coaching by Sean Mcdermott, Allen is on a downward trajectory. How the Bills could ever let Brian Dabol walk is beyond me. Dabol single-handily turned Allen into a top 3 quarterback on his way to a storied Hall of Fame career. If not for McDermott’s terrible decision not to squib kick it to the Chiefs in the AFC championship game, the Bills might have won a Superbowl already. McDermott should have been fired for that horrible decision alone, and Dabol should have been elevated to head coach. It's been downhill since. 

     
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    Posted: Sep. 11, 2023 - 11:34 PM ET #2

    U can say McDermott isn’t good but tonight was all Allen’s fault, just throwing ball down field hoping a wr makes a play cost bills this game 

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    U can say McDermott isn’t good but tonight was all Allen’s fault, just throwing ball down field hoping a wr makes a play cost bills this game 

     
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    Posted: Sep. 11, 2023 - 11:36 PM ET #3

    It was blatant rig job, he was throwing the game

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    It was blatant rig job, he was throwing the game

     
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    I agree Allen played a terrible game tonight, but the playcalling is horrendous. He took a lot of unnecessary hits running the ball, refusing to slide or go out of bounds. Where is McDermott to coach the stupidity out of him? 

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    I agree Allen played a terrible game tonight, but the playcalling is horrendous. He took a lot of unnecessary hits running the ball, refusing to slide or go out of bounds. Where is McDermott to coach the stupidity out of him? 

     
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    Posted: Sep. 11, 2023 - 11:38 PM ET #5

    Quote Originally Posted by Fistoffreedom:

    It was blatant rig job, he was throwing the game

    Anything else in your life not going as you thought?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fistoffreedom:

    It was blatant rig job, he was throwing the game

    Anything else in your life not going as you thought?

     
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     Its such a silly throw. Almost unbelievable. No reason at all for that attempt. At this point in the league with his experience..yikes. Makes ya wonder

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     Its such a silly throw. Almost unbelievable. No reason at all for that attempt. At this point in the league with his experience..yikes. Makes ya wonder

     
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    Posted: Sep. 11, 2023 - 11:39 PM ET #7

    2nd and 15 in OT  a run

     

    ouch

     

    allens last fumble in 4rth qrt looked very sus

     

    punter non tackle  

     

    tripping not called

     

    finally on the right side for once

     

     

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    2nd and 15 in OT  a run

     

    ouch

     

    allens last fumble in 4rth qrt looked very sus

     

    punter non tackle  

     

    tripping not called

     

    finally on the right side for once

     

     

     
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    Posted: Sep. 11, 2023 - 11:47 PM ET #8

    Also there are rumors that JA doesn't put in the time in preparation and relies on his talent to win the day. That his teammates know this and resent him for it (see Stefon Diggs). 

    Daboll's departure has had a bad affect on the Bills' offense. Just not as fluid and Allen is more of a loose canon. 

    That loss to KC in the playoffs a few years back was brutal. I am convinced the window has closed on the Bills. 

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    Also there are rumors that JA doesn't put in the time in preparation and relies on his talent to win the day. That his teammates know this and resent him for it (see Stefon Diggs). 

    Daboll's departure has had a bad affect on the Bills' offense. Just not as fluid and Allen is more of a loose canon. 

    That loss to KC in the playoffs a few years back was brutal. I am convinced the window has closed on the Bills. 

     
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    Posted: Sep. 11, 2023 - 11:49 PM ET #9

    No dominant run game to balance the offense they should have picked up a better RB..   Diggs will save there season until he can’t..  the beginning of there schedule isn’t too bad they should still squeak into the playoffs.. it is also a divisional game with the Jets being better and getting a lot stronger over the seasons on both sides of the ball..

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    No dominant run game to balance the offense they should have picked up a better RB..   Diggs will save there season until he can’t..  the beginning of there schedule isn’t too bad they should still squeak into the playoffs.. it is also a divisional game with the Jets being better and getting a lot stronger over the seasons on both sides of the ball..

     
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    Posted: Sep. 11, 2023 - 11:49 PM ET #10

    Diggs will be out of Buffalo before the end of this season. 

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    Diggs will be out of Buffalo before the end of this season. 

     
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    Posted: Sep. 11, 2023 - 11:50 PM ET #11

    Allen got his money.

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    Allen got his money.

     
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    Posted: Sep. 11, 2023 - 11:52 PM ET #12

    Quote Originally Posted by KingRGIII:

    Diggs will be out of Buffalo before the end of this season.

     

    I second this notion we’ve already heard rumors going around last year 

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    Quote Originally Posted by KingRGIII:

    Diggs will be out of Buffalo before the end of this season.

     

    I second this notion we’ve already heard rumors going around last year 

     
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    Posted: Sep. 11, 2023 - 11:54 PM ET #13

    Quote Originally Posted by undermysac:

    Quote Originally Posted by Fistoffreedom: It was blatant rig job, he was throwing the game Anything else in your life not going as you thought?

     

    lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by undermysac:

    Quote Originally Posted by Fistoffreedom: It was blatant rig job, he was throwing the game Anything else in your life not going as you thought?

     

    lol

     
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    Posted: Sep. 11, 2023 - 11:57 PM ET #14

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     That's alarming to hear. Allen looked like he was working hard when Daboll was in charge of the offense or at least appeared to be elevating his game to the next level. I agree that the Superbowl window has closed on the Bills. 

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     That's alarming to hear. Allen looked like he was working hard when Daboll was in charge of the offense or at least appeared to be elevating his game to the next level. I agree that the Superbowl window has closed on the Bills. 

     
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    Posted: Sep. 12, 2023 - 12:33 AM ET #15

    first time Ive seen a coach blamed for a player's horrible play 

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    first time Ive seen a coach blamed for a player's horrible play 

     
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    Posted: Sep. 12, 2023 - 1:10 AM ET #16

    JA is too much of a "gun slinger," taking way too many unnecessary risks.   Tonight was a prime example of that.  And His "high risk, high reward " style of play makes it tricky to bet either on him,... or against him.  Unpredictability isn't something we bettors like to see. 

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    JA is too much of a "gun slinger," taking way too many unnecessary risks.   Tonight was a prime example of that.  And His "high risk, high reward " style of play makes it tricky to bet either on him,... or against him.  Unpredictability isn't something we bettors like to see. 

     
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    He already peaked..now Its all down hill

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    He already peaked..now Its all down hill

     
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    Posted: Sep. 12, 2023 - 2:46 AM ET #18

    Jets defense was the story.  He'll be fine against an average defense.

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    Jets defense was the story.  He'll be fine against an average defense.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by kmoney89:

    Between the terrible playcalling and bad overall job coaching by Sean Mcdermott, Allen is on a downward trajectory. How the Bills could ever let Brian Dabol walk is beyond me. Dabol single-handily turned Allen into a top 3 quarterback on his way to a storied Hall of Fame career. If not for McDermott’s terrible decision not to squib kick it to the Chiefs in the AFC championship game, the Bills might have won a Superbowl already. McDermott should have been fired for that horrible decision alone, and Dabol should have been elevated to head coach. It's been downhill since.

    Didn't dabol just lose 40-0.... lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by kmoney89:

    Between the terrible playcalling and bad overall job coaching by Sean Mcdermott, Allen is on a downward trajectory. How the Bills could ever let Brian Dabol walk is beyond me. Dabol single-handily turned Allen into a top 3 quarterback on his way to a storied Hall of Fame career. If not for McDermott’s terrible decision not to squib kick it to the Chiefs in the AFC championship game, the Bills might have won a Superbowl already. McDermott should have been fired for that horrible decision alone, and Dabol should have been elevated to head coach. It's been downhill since.

    Didn't dabol just lose 40-0.... lol

     
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    A lot of you didn’t watch any Bills games last year because this was exactly the same shit that would happen. 

    How can an organization keep an assistant from realizing his full potential?  I sure a shit would never want to work for you.   

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    A lot of you didn’t watch any Bills games last year because this was exactly the same shit that would happen. 

    How can an organization keep an assistant from realizing his full potential?  I sure a shit would never want to work for you.   

     
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    Posted: Sep. 12, 2023 - 3:54 AM ET #21

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     Yah his QB coaching skills were left in buffalo

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     Yah his QB coaching skills were left in buffalo

     
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    Posted: Sep. 12, 2023 - 6:02 PM ET #22

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     What does the Giants losing have anything to do with Daboll’s effect on Josh Allen’s play? 

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     What does the Giants losing have anything to do with Daboll’s effect on Josh Allen’s play? 

     
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     There is only so much anyone can do to elevate a mediocre-at-best quarterback in Daniel Jones. 

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     There is only so much anyone can do to elevate a mediocre-at-best quarterback in Daniel Jones. 

     
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    Agreed kmoney peace_5

    Josh Allen hasn’t been the same since Brian Daboll’s departure. Ken Dorsey isn’t the answer as offensive coordinator. 

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    Agreed kmoney peace_5

    Josh Allen hasn’t been the same since Brian Daboll’s departure. Ken Dorsey isn’t the answer as offensive coordinator. 

     
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by pa2918:

    @Dickey227  Its such a silly throw. Almost unbelievable. No reason at all for that attempt. At this point in the league with his experience..yikes. Makes ya wonder

    Boneheaded passes for a veteran quarterback! an_drunksick

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    @Dickey227  Its such a silly throw. Almost unbelievable. No reason at all for that attempt. At this point in the league with his experience..yikes. Makes ya wonder

    Boneheaded passes for a veteran quarterback! an_drunksick

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